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Post 162815 by spencem875 on 2006-11-19 09:44:44

Getting this alot lately on this site only, plz make it go away :cussing:

Post 162828 by Mrsmopp on 2006-11-19 11:32:00

Justin is movng house this weekend so isn't available - bear with bus I'm sure it will be looked into when he returns x

Post 162839 by Okete on 2006-11-19 12:11:20

What are 'timeouts'? I tried loads of times to get onto this site yesterday - all to no avail, is this problem what you are talking about? Cheers, John.

Post 162841 by Blewis on 2006-11-19 12:31:41

I have the same issue re: timout's/non-response with boring regularity on this site, it'll probably get sorted about the same time Justin upgrades the forum software to the latest version........ :p It's definitely not my end as it happens from home (10Mb Broadband) and from work (Leased Line) http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showpost.php?p=149462&postcount=46

Post 162846 by Okete on 2006-11-19 12:39:32

Hi Blewis, Not being a very computer literate person myself - are you saying that the reason we are having touble getting on to this site is because the software of the site is outdated and our 'security' software is in conflict with the site software? Cheers, John.

Post 162848 by Blewis on 2006-11-19 12:45:55

[QUOTE=Okete]Hi Blewis, Not being a very computer literate person myself - are you saying that the reason we are having touble getting on to this site is because the software of the site is outdated and our 'security' software is in conflict with the site software? Cheers, John.[/QUOTE] Nope, Although there are security issues with the version of software the site is running, hence the link to the one where people say they have "popups" and various other stuff appearing when they use the site, it is vulnerable to css issues and other problems. However the timeouts are probably just a crap hosting company, either that or the server is suffering from a persistent DoS attack (Denial of Service). God knows, all I do know is that not upgrading the forum software is asking for all sorts of other issues, there are some right knobs out there who will wreck anything just to prove how "clever they are". It's nothing to do with YOUR computer i'm sure as it happens to mine, and mine is locked down very tightly security wise.

Post 162849 by Okete on 2006-11-19 13:03:02

Thanks for explaining that. My security is also as tight as I can make it without spoiling my ability to browse effectively. DoS is the problem I encounter most often - it has got to the point where I am now relieved and surprised if i manage to open this site's homepage! This is very frustrating because I really enjoy the forums here! Thanks, John.

Post 162851 by siamblue on 2006-11-19 13:35:03

Takes me 2 or 3 attempts to get it from my Fave page, have to refresh the page once or twice to be able to get in, Gary,

Post 162858 by T-5ones on 2006-11-19 13:54:40

Is this why I get a time out when I try to get into any of the larger threads on this forum, like the funnies or ebay links etc or is this a fault with my internet server? Ive never been able to access them on any of the home, work or my parents pc's.

Post 162862 by Okete on 2006-11-19 14:04:01

T-5ones - I too, often have a problem with the video links and youtube stuff, not so much eBay stuff. I don't think this has anything to do with the software on this site but probably more to do with the host server and demand on the host site exceeding capacity. Not sure tho.!! It is a pain and often I don't bother clicking on video links because life is too short!! Cheers, John.

Post 162912 by T-5ones on 2006-11-19 17:44:14

Good to know its not me or the forums fault. This is the message I get tryng the "entertainment and funnies" Fatal error: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in /home/wwwvolv/public_html/forums/includes/functions_threadedmode.php on line 23 I have no problem with the e-bay specials, my error.

Post 162916 by spencem875 on 2006-11-19 18:02:49

Pikey host? :saythat:

Post 162949 by Justin on 2006-11-19 19:27:37

[quote=Blewis]Nope, Although there are security issues with the version of software the site is running, hence the link to the one where people say they have "popups" and various other stuff appearing when they use the site, it is vulnerable to css issues and other problems. However the timeouts are probably just a crap hosting company, either that or the server is suffering from a persistent DoS attack (Denial of Service). God knows, all I do know is that not upgrading the forum software is asking for all sorts of other issues, there are some right knobs out there who will wreck anything just to prove how "clever they are". It's nothing to do with YOUR computer i'm sure as it happens to mine, and mine is locked down very tightly security wise.[/quote] For those that made assumptions, we have had difficulties this weekend due to a server issue, the issue is now resolved. Our hosting company Hosting-unlimited.net are top notch, and also is owned by Kevin one of teh site admins. No server is 100% reliable, not even eBays.

Post 162996 by Blewis on 2006-11-19 21:53:36

[QUOTE=Justin]For those that made assumptions, we have had difficulties this weekend due to a server issue, the issue is now resolved. Our hosting company Hosting-unlimited.net are top notch, and also is owned by Kevin one of the site admins. No server is 100% reliable, not even eBays.[/QUOTE] For those that also made assumptions about those that made assumptions.... :saythat: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6508 [QUOTE]On the evening of Wednesday 16th, members of the Hosting-Unlimited forums started receiving mail outs from the forum's mass mailing facility, containing a proclamation that the site had been hacked. It is believed that the forums were powered by vBulletin. On 16th August, Hosting-Unlimited forums were taken off-line after a script was found to have been compromised. This resulted in forums members receiving an e-mail ostensibly from Hosting-Unlimited stating “this site us hack ny mesmat jo7a happy dreams”. This was monitored by staff as it happened, and the forums were consequently taken off-line within 3 minutes of the incident. The reason for the compromise was quite simply due to a VB script not having been updated as it should have been. So, no hosting servers were affected by the incident, which uses cross site scripting as an attack vector[/QUOTE] http://www.reviewcentre.com/reviews103740.html http://www.webhostingstuff.com/review/HostingUnlimited.html [quote] by D of 209.85.50.6/~oapclan/forum on 04 November 2006: " In most case you get what you pay for. Hu are the exception, you pay very little and get nothing in return. Their hosting is off-line/timing out virtually every day particularly at night (GMT). They role back db's (10 days worse case scenario) and blame the user for failing to perform backups. They ignore/delete support tickets. They delete complaints (constructive or otherwise) and remove logins from disgruntled customers on their forums. Their own forum software (vB) is running on old versions (I wonder why?) which makes it prone to hacking: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6508 I could go on but I'm sure you get the picture already. They may be cheap but they provide nothing but problems. Avoid like the plague[/quote] To be fair Hosting Unlimited's forums now run on 3.6.0, but they are still 3 versions behind.... I make no assumptions This forum is running 3.54, the latest version is 3.63 and 3.54 has a known issue with CSS (Cross Site Scripting) attacks. This is reported clearly on the VBulletin forums on the upgrade from 3.54 to 3.55 back in August this year. http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=194061 [quote] vBulletin 3.5.5 Following the internal discovery of 2 potential cross-site scripting flaws, we have decided to put out a preventative security release in order to close the holes before it is exploited. Although vBulletin 3.6.0 is also released today, we understand that some customers may be reluctant to upgrade immediately to the new version, those people should upgrade to 3.5.5 or use the provided patch to secure their vBulletin installation as soon as possible.[/quote] Sorry if it sounds snotty Justin,but i'm involved in highly secure IT systems and help admin another huge forum, but those in "Vulnerable" Glass houses shouldn't throw "assumption" stones and as for comparing an EV1 reseller account (Which is what Hosting-unlimited.net is) host to Ebay's hosting :cuckoo: In my case these timeouts have been happening ever since I joined, I just ignore it and come back in a few hours... The simple answer to a simple problem is that typically cheap reseller hosts absolutely stuff their servers to overflowing with sites which then cause the problems we've been seeing, in your servers case it's currently running 164 separate sites.... :cuckoo: Is it any surprise it's creaking...

Post 163004 by Mrsmopp on 2006-11-19 22:13:44

For all those people that think they can run this site better than it already is (and this isn't aimed at just one person moreover the certain few whole seem to believe that this place should be run "better") The forum is run on a very limited budget, as yet we haven't asked for membership fee's to help with the running costs, we allow this place to be completely free- for your benefit - as such maybe we dont have the most up to date "software" or the largest hosting company but we get by on what we have for the funds that are available "We" as in the staff here also have lives outside of this forum and unfortunately cant put this place at the absolute top of our priority list. Again, we do what we can with the time we have available!! All we try to do is make this place a friendly place to be, somewhere that people feel comfortable coming back to, and a great resource for all things Volvo. The staff here take a lot of flack on a day to day basis - even down to personal insults, we also seem to have to take a lot of critism over the way the place is run and the software we use and to be honest after the years of hardwork that has gone into this place I'm fed up with it as I am sure other members of the team are!! So, for all of you that think you can do it better please bear the above in mind before you start complaining! Regards

Post 163007 by bubba_1986 on 2006-11-19 22:26:58

well said Natasha. At the end of the day, there would be no forum if it was not for, yourself,justin,kevin,and all the mods. Keep up the good work, when is the free membership going to end. Am saying this because think would resolve these types of issues Fraser

Post 163012 by BlackBeast on 2006-11-19 22:46:00

[QUOTE=bubba_1986]well said Natasha. At the end of the day, there would be no forum if it was not for, yourself,justin,kevin,and all the mods. Keep up the good work, when is the free membership going to end. Am saying this because think would resolve these types of issues Fraser[/QUOTE] And well said Frazer! The sooner the forum becomes not just a forum, but a club aswell, will make things much better for everyone, mods, admin and members. Even though its not all bad you understand ;)

Post 163015 by T5ER on 2006-11-19 22:59:17

[QUOTE=Mrsmopp]For all those people that think they can run this site better than it already is (and this isn't aimed at just one person moreover the certain few whole seem to believe that this place should be run "better") The forum is run on a very limited budget, as yet we haven't asked for membership fee's to help with the running costs, we allow this place to be completely free- for your benefit - as such maybe we dont have the most up to date "software" or the largest hosting company but we get by on what we have for the funds that are available "We" as in the staff here also have lives outside of this forum and unfortunately cant put this place at the absolute top of our priority list. Again, we do what we can with the time we have available!! All we try to do is make this place a friendly place to be, somewhere that people feel comfortable coming back to, and a great resource for all things Volvo. The staff here take a lot of flack on a day to day basis - even down to personal insults, we also seem to have to take a lot of critism over the way the place is run and the software we use and to be honest after the years of hardwork that has gone into this place I'm fed up with it as I am sure other members of the team are!! So, for all of you that think you can do it better please bear the above in mind before you start complaining! Regards[/QUOTE] Fook that nobody can run a site tis well and keep on top of all the w4nkers(me included) as i have spoken well out of turn a few times.But i would would like to say well done to all those involved in hosting the site and all those that keep things in check and stop w4nkers like me LOL keep up the good work admin

Post 163022 by Blewis on 2006-11-19 23:12:44

[QUOTE=Mrsmopp]For all those people that think they can run this site better than it already is (and this isn't aimed at just one person moreover the certain few whole seem to believe that this place should be run "better") The forum is run on a very limited budget, as yet we haven't asked for membership fee's to help with the running costs, we allow this place to be completely free- for your benefit - as such maybe we dont have the most up to date "software" or the largest hosting company but we get by on what we have for the funds that are available "We" as in the staff here also have lives outside of this forum and unfortunately cant put this place at the absolute top of our priority list. Again, we do what we can with the time we have available!! All we try to do is make this place a friendly place to be, somewhere that people feel comfortable coming back to, and a great resource for all things Volvo. The staff here take a lot of flack on a day to day basis - even down to personal insults, we also seem to have to take a lot of critism over the way the place is run and the software we use and to be honest after the years of hardwork that has gone into this place I'm fed up with it as I am sure other members of the team are!! So, for all of you that think you can do it better please bear the above in mind before you start complaining! Regards[/QUOTE] Let's put it like this and clear up your misconception(s) Mrs.Mopp... I firstly made no criticism about the software to start with in the original post that I made about the forum software at http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14131&page=5 which was purely to assist Justin with my experience, of course nobody had the courtesy to respond to that, even with a clear number of members experiencing problems with the site. As for the "costs" of running the site, I fully understand however for the sake of $30 dollars (@£15) per annum for the maintainance & upgrades of VBulletin I'm sure that Justin must have that?? As it is a "lifetime licence" of Vbulletin is £91, with hosting costs (1Gb) that could be sourced direct with EV1 (Instead of through a reseller) at @ $120 per annum (@£60) it's hardly a kings ransom and surely the advertising banners pay for that (If not they should imo) And if the costs are too extreme at that, i'll happily contribute towards it and or might be able to sort out a decent dedicated server share which currently runs one site :) . As for mods/owners having a life outside the forums, perfectly true and I never for one moment suggested otherwise. No don't get me wrong, it wasn't criticism but for Justins sh*tty comment of "for those that have made assumptions" that was clearly aimed at myself. I made no assumptions and had the backup and knowledge to point that out which I believe I have above. If you and Justin are not interested to accept a helpful piece of information that I originally posted in the forum members interests then that's a damn shame. And I did bear your parting comment in mind ;) I'm not a kiss ass, and never will be sorry but thank you for your time in running the site ;)

Post 417038 by 8501970 on 2011-10-16 20:36:51

Was this how T5D5 began ?