Naturally I have no idea as to what led up to the guy on the ground with electrodes sticking in him and four guy's 'managing' him...nice sucker punches to the head by the way to complete the job. I appreciate that it is a difficult job, but I'm not convinced this is a good direction: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/5543724/Man-Tasered-and-punched-by-police-apparently-caught-on-video.html
WTF! at 42/43 seconds am sure plod was punching the bloke.
Yeah but its better for him get tasered than for him to go and kick some innocent persons head in because he 'had too much to drink' and 'someone looked at him the wrong way'. He might have been spitting or biting, and the video doesn't show what happened before he was floored.
well done mr PC. if the bloke had done no wrong he wouldn't be resisting arrest, and rolling round on floor, possibly bting, spitting etc. had it coming to him in my eyes.
Lets say he was doing something wrong. Lets even say that the taser was required and used correctly. The police officer who punched the guy repeatedly should be kicked off the force, I mean who does he think he is. I only hope that he is the police officer who ended up getting hurt. That was completely out of line and should be dealt with very heavy handedly.
IMHO there is more than reasonable force used to arrest the chap,Those bobbys have behaved like thugs.
[quote=S60-MBS;235513]IMHO there is more than reasonable force used to arrest the chap,Those bobbys have behaved like thugs.[/quote] Absolutely right mate.
Typical drunken yob in a town centre. Normally they can swear, spit, puke and generally do what the hell they want to the police. Good on these guys for tasering him! As for the guy "punching" I think (although I might be wrong) that he is punching him in / on / around the shoulder / upper arm not the head. But TBH, let the police dole out an occasional beating to criminals. Would make a change to the current left wing liberal attitude of discussing their crimes with and then releasing them without charge.
I can understand why this looks bad, but in reality it's not. For whatever reason the guys has been tasered, but look at his left hand. He is holding something that the officer without the taser is trying to get hold off, maybe a knife, maybe a hyperdermic needle? Whatever it is, thats obviously posing a perceived threat to the officers and the public. The strikes to the shoulder are an effort to cause him to release whatever it is between taser pulses. As I say, it looks bad, but it's way better than the officers getting stabbed, or the public once he's got passed them. And prior to the taser, the firearms guys would have only had guns to rely on to stop him, surely this is better. I'd say well done guys for doing a difficult arrest. I'd rather they were there than not. At least people will give them a fair hearing by Youtube- not!
Good on the copper tbh they have a tough enoyugh job as it is with late nite boozing but whati dont agree with is the copper that was mentioned on ere a few days ago reguarding a 13 yr old boy and a push bike how senseless can you get
To me the worrying thing is that the increased uptake in officers having tasers will lead to exactly what is happening in the States; Failure to instantly comply to an instruction will result in a tasering. Innocent people will die because of the increased use of these weapons.
looks to me like that guy has something in his hands that the two coppers are seriously worried about, they are dancing round him, which coppers dont normally do. Looks ligit to me, he wasnt being hit in the face and hitting the shoulder / upper arm is a good way to get some one to let go of something. Looks like a fair "cop" to me.
You don't see what the bloke on the floor was doing in the first place, could have been punching out at the officers or other people, no one should be a punch bag, police included. If the arrested male was doing as he was told then he would have beed handcuffed and taken away, he wasn't being helpful from what I could see. The taser only works when the trigger is pressed so he would not have been under constant volts, and if the wire breaks then it is no good. They could have beaten him with the batons, being hit with a metal bar would have caused more injury I think! Taser is a lot less lethal than being hit over the head with a stick. As for the punches, they are to the upper arm, not the head. Trying to make him release it so he can be cuffed. If you were being attacked by the drunken yob, you had been hit by him, he has a knife, what would want the police to do, deal with him swiftly and at the level of aggression he is showing and stop him, or as some of you seem to think, use nice words and try to reason with him, that won't work. Some people are just wrong, and thats it.
I agree with many peeps on here in that, to me, it definately looks like the guy is being punched in his upper left arm. This is designed to cause transient pain (and have a numbing effect) so that a weapon can be taken off him or his arm made easier to hand cuff. Without a knowledge of the kind of training police get it can easily look like the cop is trying to knock 7 shades out of the guy. What we don't know is why the police were called in the first place: Did glass someone? Badly beat someone up? The news article states he caused GBH on an officer. I would suggest if he's not bothered about assaulting an officer then I'm sure he wouldn't hesitate to attack a member of the public. The roll-out of more Tasers in the UK is still very limited and select. If it was to be live firearms then I too would be a bit bothered about following in USA's 'gun culture' but it has far to go before we reach those depths thankfully. I would hate to think that UK police will start leaning out of patrol car windows firing 10's of rounds at car tyres! Also, in the 6 years we have had Tasers in the UK there has been no deaths linked to them. And I'm sure the 330-odd in America is a tiny proportion of all incidents in that crazy land!
He wasn't punching his face, you can see the guys head doesn't move when the officer in punching, there would be at least some movement.
Well maybeyou all have good points and have maybe changed my decision slightly. You see I live in Northern Irland were it is very much a police state. This came about after the trouble ended. Thing is you may all think that that would be fare enough. If police are heavy handd in NI then the trouble might not come back. Problem is the Police here are heavy handed with everone especially since the RUC were disbanded and the PSNI were formed. The majority of people in NI are not terrorists and suffered for many years at the hands of thugs, that haschanged and we are all now suffering at the hands of a disasterous police force. So please forgive me for jumping straight on the case of the police but when you become used to police thugery day and daily you gt an automatic dislike. I'm not alone the majority of the people in NI dislike our force and don't think its because we are all law breakers. My father is a retired RUC officer and dispisewhat the police have become in this country. I may have forgot that the english police service have more tact and are more for the people, so in this instance maybe the guy did deserve what he got. Congratulations cause I never change my mind lol.
10 out of 10 for having an open mind. Blimey, we're in danger of being a reasonable grown up forum, able to debate things without it getting out of hand, quick, someone mention which remap to get!
[quote=Rob S;235710]10 out of 10 for having an open mind. Blimey, we're in danger of being a reasonable grown up forum, able to debate things without it getting out of hand, quick, someone mention which remap to get![/quote] LOL, ain't open minded about Volvo's though, T5's rock and can't be beat. No argument there!!!
police brutality ftw!
[quote=iGGy;235525]Failure to instantly comply to an instruction will result in a tasering. [/quote] Erm, yes, that sounds sensible to me! "Put the gun down" TASER "Put the TV down" TASER "Stop punching me" TASER "Stop breaking those windows" TASER Surely the problem in society is that too many people think its acceptable to ignore or abuse the police thus undermining the fabric of law and order in the comunity.
Double edged sword in my opinion as there are good and bad elements in every walk of life. One of my closest friends is a policeman and his life is threatened every day in life. Someone said "left wing politics" and I agree 100%. In my current situation,I can't afford to eat,but If I stole some money (the new God) I'd get banged up,have 3 meals a day and a Nintendo Wii...........oh yeah and more anal sex than anyone could ever cope with!! Endless supplies of illegal drugs etc,etc etc. Each case on it's own merits. The simple fact that this has been aired is suspicous. Someone has something to gain. Hope I haven't offended anyone,just my view.
[quote=pyrotechnictigger;235795]Erm, yes, that sounds sensible to me! "Put the gun down" TASER "Put the TV down" TASER "Stop punching me" TASER "Stop breaking those windows" TASER Surely the problem in society is that too many people think its acceptable to ignore or abuse the police thus undermining the fabric of law and order in the comunity.[/quote] I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head there fella. It boils my p*ss to think that people think they have the God-given right to break into your home/car/shed and help themselves to anything and everything that you've worked hard enough to earn the money to buy. "Are you a sh*tbag?" TASER! = Zero tolerance!