t5 gearbox problem!! 2.3engine

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Post 257231 by mpm on 2009-09-13 17:18:51

can any1 help my t5 is having a crunching time when moving into 3rd gear!!, i took it to the local garage and it was said the synchro is blah blah blah!! is this a replacement box or is it a cheap fix? also if i was to replace the gearbox does the 2.5 box fit straight on or is it the 2.3?

Post 257247 by martybelfastt5 on 2009-09-13 18:08:47

the synchro can be repaired or replaced should i say,just on third prob is finding the part wouldnt think this would be to cheap new,

Post 257315 by shaun850 on 2009-09-13 20:38:00

I have a perfect gearbox...£100.

Post 257375 by AlanG on 2009-09-13 22:53:26

[quote=mpm;257231]can any1 help my t5 is having a crunching time when moving into 3rd gear!!, i took it to the local garage and it was said the synchro is blah blah blah!! is this a replacement box or is it a cheap fix? also if i was to replace the gearbox does the 2.5 box fit straight on or is it the 2.3?[/quote] If I were you buddy,I'd bite Shaun's hand off for that. The repair would be uneconomical and time consuming. The 2.5 has a lower final drive/lower ratios so is not the same and personally,I wouldn't..

Post 257408 by callyuk on 2009-09-14 08:36:02

[quote=martybelfastt5;257247]the synchro can be repaired or replaced should i say,just on third prob is finding the part wouldnt think this would be to cheap new,[/quote] you would really struggle to find parts as volvo dont sell them i know as i looked into it when my went on my old 850

Post 257486 by smithy on 2009-09-14 17:07:09

[quote=mpm;257231]can any1 help my t5 is having a crunching time when moving into 3rd gear!!, i took it to the local garage and it was said the synchro is blah blah blah!! is this a replacement box or is it a cheap fix? also if i was to replace the gearbox does the 2.5 box fit straight on or is it the 2.3?[/quote] if you dont have shauns gearbox is might be worth putting a 2.0 20v box in it will drop the top end but quicker off the mark due to the larger final drive and they are pretty cheap just an idea mind

Post 257487 by p fandango on 2009-09-14 17:12:45

[quote=smithy;257486]if you dont have shauns gearbox is might be worth putting a 2.0 20v box in it will drop the top end but quicker off the mark due to the larger final drive and they are pretty cheap just an idea mind[/quote] or get an M66 & have the best of both worlds

Post 257489 by smithy on 2009-09-14 17:18:48

[quote=p fandango;257487]or get an M66 & have the best of both worlds[/quote] very true but i know the 2.0 20v goes very well because don off kalimar put 1 in his s70 t5 that he used to race and i bolted a 2.5 20v engine to 1 in my mk1 2.0 20v and that went very well

Post 257494 by AlanG on 2009-09-14 17:35:52

[quote=smithy;257486]if you dont have shauns gearbox is might be worth putting a 2.0 20v box in it will drop the top end but quicker off the mark due to the larger final drive and they are pretty cheap just an idea mind[/quote] And even more tyre shredding in the lower gears......

Post 257495 by p fandango on 2009-09-14 17:39:03

[quote=smithy;257489]very true but i know the 2.0 20v goes very well because don off kalimar put 1 in his s70 t5 that he used to race and i bolted a 2.5 20v engine to 1 in my mk1 2.0 20v and that went very well[/quote] the ST box has got a lower 1st & 2nd than the M56H, but higher than the M56L. The M56L then has a higher ratio than the M66 for the remaining gears

Post 257500 by Jamest5r on 2009-09-14 18:11:10

[quote=p fandango;257495]the ST box has got a lower 1st & 2nd than the M56H, but higher than the M56L. The M56L then has a higher ratio than the M66 for the remaining gears[/quote] You have got far too much time on your hands, go get your grinder out:dgrin:

Post 257503 by p fandango on 2009-09-14 18:15:14

[quote=jamest5r;257500]You have got far too much time on your hands, go get your grinder out:dgrin:[/quote] lol i'm waiting to get my hands on a BIG grinder before i can cut anymore really

Post 257505 by smithy on 2009-09-14 18:20:03

[quote=p fandango;257495]the ST box has got a lower 1st & 2nd than the M56H, but higher than the M56L. The M56L then has a higher ratio than the M66 for the remaining gears[/quote] yes i agree with your statement mate but m56 2.0 20v boxs are cheap as cheaps and with not much money around just an idea ps if you grind anymore of yourbox away the will only be a chassy left lol

Post 257506 by p fandango on 2009-09-14 18:22:03

[quote=smithy;257505]yes i agree with your statement mate but m56 2.0 20v boxs are cheap as cheaps and with not much money around just an idea ps if you grind anymore of yourbox away the will only be a chassy left lol[/quote] do i need a chassis? lol. Think its only the towbar & rear bumper left to get any weight out of :( i know i fell lucky but i got my M66 for £50

Post 257508 by AlanG on 2009-09-14 18:28:37

[quote=jamest5r;257500]You have got far too much time on your hands, go get your grinder out:dgrin:[/quote] He's still running it in..............:biggrin:

Post 257513 by smithy on 2009-09-14 18:46:55

[quote=p fandango;257506]do i need a chassis? lol. Think its only the towbar & rear bumper left to get any weight out of :( i know i fell lucky but i got my M66 for £50[/quote] you will need a tubler chassis the way you are going to keep the car together lol

Post 257932 by mpm on 2009-09-16 21:16:19

hi shaun, sorry for the delay !! where you based?? telephone number?? im based oxfordshire.

Post 257978 by dooby on 2009-09-17 00:19:03

[quote=AlanG;257375]If I were you buddy,I'd bite Shaun's hand off for that. The repair would be uneconomical and time consuming. The 2.5 has a lower final drive/lower ratios so is not the same and personally,I wouldn't..[/quote] I don't think the 2.5l necessarily has a lower final drive. The 10v one is I think the M56L so will have, but the 2.5l 20V M56H gearbox I put on my 850 had the same final ratio I believe. Agree that the cost of refurbishing the innards of your box is likely to exceed the cost of a replacement box so unless you wanted to build up a gearbox anyway I'd replace rather than repair. HTH, Pete

Post 258512 by mpm on 2009-09-19 17:34:46

went to the local scrappy today!!, spotted a t5 on an n plate, would this box fit? only 50 quid!!

Post 258517 by p fandango on 2009-09-19 18:16:30

[quote=mpm;258512]went to the local scrappy today!!, spotted a t5 on an n plate, would this box fit? only 50 quid!![/quote] it will fit. But later 850's had the speed measured off the ABS unit while earlier ones had the sensor mounted into the gearbox, just need to see which you've got

Post 258578 by AlanG on 2009-09-19 23:25:53

[quote=dooby;257978]I don't think the 2.5l necessarily has a lower final drive. The 10v one is I think the M56L so will have, but the 2.5l 20V M56H gearbox I put on my 850 had the same final ratio I believe. Agree that the cost of refurbishing the innards of your box is likely to exceed the cost of a replacement box so unless you wanted to build up a gearbox anyway I'd replace rather than repair. HTH, Pete[/quote] Just going by last 850 matey. Was a late '96 2.5 20V and the gearing was noticeably lower than my T5 is.

Post 258585 by p fandango on 2009-09-20 00:26:42

[quote=AlanG;258578]Just going by last 850 matey. Was a late '96 2.5 20V and the gearing was noticeably lower than my T5 is.[/quote] according to the chart i've got there is a 8mph difference in 1st, upto a 20mph difference in 5th between the M56L & M56H so yeh quite noticable