Just in case anyone hasn't seen this car, have a look in the garage, its looking excellent and johnnytempest you should start a thread of what you are doing, its really looking good now and sounds like you'll be having some fun in it and maybe there are a few people unaware of what you are doing.
:B_thumb:
http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/dto_garage.php?do=viewvehicle&vehicle_id=1221
cheers guys
I wasn't sure it would go down very well as its not a perfect btcc rep.
I have to follow certain regs in the race series,so although from a distance its might look it,close up,quite different.
I still have a long way to go to get anywhere near the sharp end, I'm down by about 120BHP for a start and with the cut out problem I have, lots to do.
Be great to see some support at the races, I have ordered a couple of VPCUK for the car too, maybe get some new interest?? lol.
I have loads of pictures of different stages of build, so if people want to see it, I'll see if I can upload them with some sort of descriptions.
And thanks to this forum, a great place to talk anything Volvo.
thanks to P Fandango and Al115 for their recent help too.
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;367771]cheers guys
I wasn't sure it would go down very well as its not a perfect btcc rep.
I have to follow certain regs in the race series,so although from a distance its might look it,close up,quite different.
I still have a long way to go to get anywhere near the sharp end, I'm down by about 120BHP for a start and with the cut out problem I have, lots to do.
Be great to see some support at the races, I have ordered a couple of VPCUK for the car too, maybe get some new interest?? lol.
I have loads of pictures of different stages of build, so if people want to see it, I'll see if I can upload them with some sort of descriptions.
And thanks to this forum, a great place to talk anything Volvo.
thanks to P Fandango and Al115 for their recent help too.
JT[/quote]
Mine's not a perfect rep, seems to be excepted ok :)
You could get a fair few volunteers with knowledge for a crew from here :eclipsee_
By the way is it an open paddock at Brands for your race day as it is usually really good to see the cars close up, and there is a burger bar close by lol
[quote=johnnytempest;367771]cheers guys
I wasn't sure it would go down very well as its not a perfect btcc rep.
I have to follow certain regs in the race series,so although from a distance its might look it,close up,quite different.
I still have a long way to go to get anywhere near the sharp end, I'm down by about 120BHP for a start and with the cut out problem I have, lots to do.
Be great to see some support at the races, I have ordered a couple of VPCUK for the car too, maybe get some new interest?? lol.
I have loads of pictures of different stages of build, so if people want to see it, I'll see if I can upload them with some sort of descriptions.
And thanks to this forum, a great place to talk anything Volvo.
thanks to P Fandango and Al115 for their recent help too.
JT[/quote]
Doesn't have to be a perfect replica mate, your doing a good job with it, looks like its being done well.
Will there be any races nearer the midlands, brands is is a long way from leicester. If a few of us went, it may be worth it.
[quote=SKIDMARKS;367914]Dates are here www.msvracing.co.uk and look plenty up your way[/quote]
i assume its the Project 8 racing saloon class JT's in? Donnington's the closest but only there April 2nd-3rd or a night race October 29th
[quote=SKIDMARKS;367804]You could get a fair few volunteers with knowledge for a crew from here :eclipsee_
By the way is it an open paddock at Brands for your race day as it is usually really good to see the cars close up, and there is a burger bar close by lol[/quote]
Yea i could have the best pit crew going!! shame there are no pitstops. lol
I have been following this race series around for 2 years now and the only time I have needed to buy a pass was when they supported the DTM.
So yes,open paddock
and yes burger van!
I'm not 100% in for the Brands race just yet, so please dont book anything, just incase. i'll keep you up to date.
I would think Donnington would be closest to Leicester.
The next meeting is there, but I unfortunatly,wont be racing.
calendar:
http://www.msvracing.co.uk/cars/toyo-tires-racing-saloons.aspx
cheers guys
I will put up some pics very soon
JT
I'll definatly go to any in the midlands and don't mind going a bit further, just brands is on the wrong side of london, makes it so much longer to get there.
[quote=johnnytempest;367923]Yea i could have the best pit crew going!! shame there are no pitstops. lol
I have been following this race series around for 2 years now and the only time I have needed to buy a pass was when they supported the DTM.
So yes,open paddock
and yes burger van!
I'm not 100% in for the Brands race just yet, so please dont book anything, just incase. i'll keep you up to date.
I would think Donnington would be closest to Leicester.
The next meeting is there, but I unfortunatly,wont be racing.
calendar:
http://www.msvracing.co.uk/cars/toyo-tires-racing-saloons.aspx
cheers guys
I will put up some pics very soon
JT[/quote]
Even though you won't be racing, will your car be at donington?
[quote=LiamT4;367926]Even though you won't be racing, will your car be at donington?[/quote]
No, the cars not road legal,so its a bit of hassle to get it there
if I'm not gonna use it.
I would definatly like to be there later in the year.
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;367927]No, the cars not road legal,so its a bit of hassle to get it there
if I'm not gonna use it.
I would definatly like to be there later in the year.
JT[/quote]
Which ones will you be at?
[quote=johnnytempest;367927]No, the cars not road legal,so its a bit of hassle to get it there
if I'm not gonna use it.
I would definatly like to be there later in the year.[/quote]
i've not been to Donnington for a long while & defo be interested in watching the night race in October if your going
somewhere there yes, never been there before,so a new experience for me.
cheers for showing interest in what I'm doing
and if you dont mind I'll post up some pic and details on here as the thread is
up and running. probrably do something at the weekend,if I'm not under the bonnet!! lol
cheers
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;367943]somewhere there yes, never been there before,so a new experience for me.
cheers for showing interest in what I'm doing
and if you dont mind I'll post up some pic and details on here as the thread is
up and running. probrably do something at the weekend,if I'm not under the bonnet!! lol
cheers
JT[/quote]
Hopefully see you at cadwell park then.
By all means use this thread if you want.
When you get the car sorted, you should try and get it to a 1/4mile as well, see how it goes in a straight line.
Ok, here goes, I'll do my best...
Been following some friends around on the Project 8 Racing Saloons for two years. Done a few track days in my 911 and got the bug and decided I wanted to join my mates on the race track.
It's a pre '94 series, my mates race Sierra Cosworths which I didn't fancy. The other obvious choice are the BMW M3/M5's but there are plenty of those already in the series, so I started to look for something different.
Googling BTCC reminded me of going to Brands Hatch and watching the touring cars back in the early 90's and gave me a few ideas. First idea was a Vauxhall Cavalier, which I soon discovered didn't have much to give in the way of extra performance. Second idea was the Volvo...
Having looked into it, the performance gains on the 850 are massive and having followed the BTCC around in the early 90's and supporting the Volvo's, that's what I've decided to race.
So this was the car I bought:
£600, Bargain!
Next step...having the roll cage put in.
The roll cage was done by Rob at RAW Motorsport, who was recommended by the two cossie drivers. Rob is also racing in the same series in a BMW M5.
Next up, the paint job...
Aiming for the original touring car design I decided to get it painted white as a base colour
Whilst that was being done I decided to spray some bits of trim and bumper etc that I had sitting in the garage...
The first job after the body shop was to fit the front bumper, headlights and towing eye whilst I was at it:
Next was building the dash
As the car doesn't have to be road legal I decided to simplifly the dash and only keep the necessary switches for racing
The seat was welded into place whilst the car was being painted and I fitted the fire extinguisher once I had the car back in the garage
Regulations for the series state that you can only run brakes that are big enough to fit under the original wheels for the car so I found these on fleabay...
I believe they are the optional extra 17" wheels for the 850 but they had been hand painted by the previous owner so I had them resprayed to their original glory and had the race tyres fitted
Next I fitted the 3" exhaust from JT tuning (which is quite nice as it has my initials on it :D) , MT brake discs and EBC 'Yellowstuff' pads. I also fitted my new K&N induction kit. At this point I was still waiting on the suspension to arrive in preperation for a track day at Snetterton.
I was then told that I wouldn't get the suspension until the morning I was due to be at Snetterton...
I got the suspension at the track on the morning of the trackday and started to fit it with the help of one of my friends in the cosworth's. It took all morning but we got there in the end...
Rear springs...
Coilovers at the front (along with the rusty calipers :( )
Then during the afternoon sessions I got some laps out on track
(I would put up a better picture but my nephew got told off for taking pictures from the pit wall, so this is the only one we have)
Onboard footage which you may have seen already - [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMUdJEIACv8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMUdJEIACv8[/ame]
Between bolting on the suspension and the end of the day I managed to make good progress on lap times by adjusting the ride height, camber and dampening settings. Considering its the cars (and my) first run a 3.02 lap to a 2.36 lap is a good improvement, but considering the engine is completely standard shows it has a lot more to give.
The next step was to make the car comply with the race regulations, e.g electrical shutoffs etc. as well as moving some weight around i.e. moving the battery
Removing the original battery allowed me to run two hoses from one of the grilles in the bumper up to the air filter to provide it with as much cold air as possible
The only additions since have been some stickers. I have got the vinyls to replicate the original touring car livery but I haven't put them on yet except for a couple of bits:
That's where I am at the moment
Plently more to do, still a work in progress... I will update this as it progresses
I do have the decals, but it looks like quite a job to fit them.
I will have a go when I have the time and patience.
will have different sponsors on the car,to comply with the race series, but it should be very close to the btcc.
[quote=p fandango;368833]thanks for the info & pictures, the car should still be road legal anyway isn't it? & have you any ideas on how much it weighs now?[/quote]
sorry mate,
I was just reading back through the thread with the thought of updating this tomorrow, when i spotted your questions??
as for road legal..........no expert but:
no screen wash jets or bottle
no number plates
no number plate lights
no cat
no side lights
no full beam
no horn
no airbags( not sure on that 1?)
these are a few i can think of.........lol
and weight, well to comply with the damn regs, I am allowed to run the car at its original kerb weight(as per carfoilio.com) which is 1450Kg, with myself in all my race gear, minus 5%.
to clear that up... the car and me in race trim=1375KG.
I can go lighter and add ballast etc, but at this stage, just keen to get out there and see whats what.
more pics very soon
JT
when it was first stripped out, using a corner weight gauge,
we estimated it was 1200kg,
but with the seat,dash, cage and a layer or two of paint, I really
dont know where it is now.
I have been on lates this week,so have managed a couple of bits.
rear anti-roll bar
I think the front anti-roll bar might need the use of a proper hoist, which I dont have, so gonna have to pay someone for that job I think?
A new fuel filter
according to the good book of haynes, they should be changed ever 50,000 miles, I dont think mine has ever been changed??? lol
Look at the state of that and look what came out of it!!!!!!!!
Its no wonder I was having fueling problems! lol
and just some additional photos:
Nearly got the btcc look, just need to get the arse down, but the rears are not height adjustable, a bit of butchery required me thinks?
Looks really good i know when i changed my fuel filter i couldnt believe the crap that came out of it as well.
Keep up the good work,
Ive set up a 1/4 mile day and meet at york raceway this year in may if you wish to come allong you would be more than welcome.
[quote=johnnytempest;369640]sorry mate,
I was just reading back through the thread with the thought of updating this tomorrow, when i spotted your questions??
as for road legal..........no expert but:
no screen wash jets or bottle
no number plates
no number plate lights
no cat
no side lights
no full beam
no horn
no airbags( not sure on that 1?)
these are a few i can think of.........lol
and weight, well to comply with the damn regs, I am allowed to run the car at its original kerb weight(as per carfoilio.com) which is 1450Kg, with myself in all my race gear, minus 5%.
to clear that up... the car and me in race trim=1375KG.
I can go lighter and add ballast etc, but at this stage, just keen to get out there and see whats what.
more pics very soon[/quote]
i'd forgot about the questions myself lol. Only electrical stuff them really keeping it off the road. Impressed with the weight considering you've got a rollcage etc
keep us posted
[quote=p fandango;369707]i'd forgot about the questions myself lol. Only electrical stuff them really keeping it off the road. Impressed with the weight considering you've got a rollcage etc
keep us posted[/quote]
need a chat with you about a single wiper
i'm desperate for one to give it that touring car look and the reduced drag will benefit also.
I tried using the rear wiper mech of an estate but it goes too far round, a true 180, so now i have pretty much tried everything with all the bits i have, but still cant get it from side to side without going off the screen or not going far enough, very frustrating
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;369734]need a chat with you about a single wiper
i'm desperate for one to give it that touring car look and the reduced drag will benefit also.
I tried using the rear wiper mech of an estate but it goes too far round, a true 180, so now i have pretty much tried everything with all the bits i have, but still cant get it from side to side without going off the screen or not going far enough, very frustrating[/quote]
LINK, i'll pm you my phone number incase you get stuck
did you get your shift-light fitted?
[quote=t5 pete;369679]Looks really good i know when i changed my fuel filter i couldnt believe the crap that came out of it as well.
Keep up the good work,
Ive set up a 1/4 mile day and meet at york raceway this year in may if you wish to come allong you would be more than welcome.[/quote]
once I've had it mapped etc, that could be interesting?????
[quote=p fandango;369739]LINK, i'll pm you my phone number incase you get stuck
did you get your shift-light fitted?[/quote]
shift light works great thanks to you.
the link you sent i cant access! doh!
but i was reading your thread on here about single wipers.
am i right in thinking its the link from the motor to the main bar which determines how far the wiper goes???
shame i've already sold it, but this would of been perfect for you
resprayed the same colour as BT
but it was a genuine TWR BTCC splitter complete with sponsorship decal when i got it, it was off the 1996 test/developement car
[quote=t5 pete;369745]How did you manage to get hold of it pedro and where did it go when you sold it[/quote]
bought it off ebay for £400. Sold it to a bloke with a black 854R, he did post a couple of times on "the darkside" but not seen him about for a few years now (he didn't even post any pics of it fitted)
[quote=johnnytempest;369741]shift light works great thanks to you.
the link you sent i cant access! doh!
but i was reading your thread on here about single wipers.
am i right in thinking its the link from the motor to the main bar which determines how far the wiper goes???[/quote]
just glad i traced it back to the right wire lol
[quote=Pedro Fandango;182630]i wasn't going to post about this until it was totally finished & on BT, put after a trial run & seeing that it works as planned with only a few minor problems to fix i thought why not.
the single wiper in the park position, altho once i get the straight arm i think i'm going to have it parking up the screen (BTCC style)
this is the maximum sweep of the arm, as you can see it doesn't miss much of the screen & even surprised me how much area it covers
standard mechanism on top & the modified one underneath, i cut off the drivers side spindle housing to save weight but had to leave the rest of the unused arm because its unstable with just the one mounting point
the technical bit, only original parts off 1 mechanism have been used (just cut & welded to fit differently)
standard spindle with the un-used arm took off just so you can see everything
the modified spindle with the drivers wiper arm ball joint cut out & the used passenger ball joint welded back on the correct distance from the pivot point to give the full sweep
the only reason its not staying on is because the standard volvo wiper blades kink up away from the skuttle panel & hits the bonnet when it sweeps right across to the drivers side. Not sure what blade will do but i'm going to try a Fiat Uno one to see[/quote]
[quote=johnnytempest;369792]Yea it seems to be that spindle bit that is not working for me.
i guess i need to keep playing with it till i get it right
thanks mate, top man[/quote]
no problem sir
its been a few years since i did the conversion, but i'm sure you need the multi-link mechanism on the actual spindle that the wiper arm bolts too to go to its full limit while the motor spindle is pointing towards the mechanism as in pic 3
Ha Ha! i think I've cracked it!!
maybe a tweek needed here and there? but.....................OH YEA!!! lol
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vtih13btBA[/ame]
[quote=johnnytempest;370044]Ha Ha! i think I've cracked it!!
maybe a tweek needed here and there? but.....................OH YEA!!! lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vtih13btBA[/quote]
looks good to me :pimp2:
[quote=johnnytempest;370052]:beer:
Thanks again!
I will owe you a whole pub at this rate, forget the pint!! lol[/quote]
lol its no problem sir, just keep us posted on progress
you say you might tweek the wiper a bit, what you got lined up?
[quote=p fandango;370057]lol its no problem sir, just keep us posted on progress
you say you might tweek the wiper a bit, what you got lined up?[/quote]
well as you can see,the wiper bounces off the driver side a bit, so a bit of adjustment there.
also the switch I put in on my dash, stops the wiper where I turn it off.
So I need to figure out the other connections, so that it returns to centre point after I've turned it off.
And I think ,as you have discovered before, it need a straight arm to make everything sweet.
JT
i will admit i thought your design was miles off when you posted the first pics of the side when you'd only got half the stickers on, but credit it does look very good & very close to the original
nice one
[quote=p fandango;370155]i will admit i thought your design was miles off when you posted the first pics of the side when you'd only got half the stickers on, but credit it does look very good & very close to the original
nice one[/quote]
If i'm totally honest...I agree
close up, on inspection, not even close, lol
but, if i get a "RUB" during racing, it wont matter too much.
I have to keep things in perspective.
the idea is there...........?
[quote=p fandango;370161]not as common as the estates you see lol[/quote]
I have no idea what you are talking about! :confused:
The car is looking great now Johnny
[quote=johnnytempest;370434]its been suggested I disconnect the water from the turbo??
anyone see a problem with this??[/quote]
Who has advised you on this as our turbos are designed to be water cooled there for removing it would cause problems cooling problems
Exactly, what was the point of removing the water cooling from the turbo?, all that's going to do is cause it to over heat and seize up, there's no benefit from removing it.
thats a no then!! lol
was suggested to keep the water temp down. some of the other guys just run the oil through the turbo and seem ok.
thanks for a very swift and definitive answer!
I love this forum, fantastic!!
[quote=johnnytempest;370444]was suggested to keep the water temp down. some of the other guys just run the oil through the turbo and seem ok.[/quote]
the waters getting hot for a reason, because its cooling the turbo lol.
if their worried about the water getting too hot wouldn't it be an idea they invest in a better radiator
I have no idea (yet) how hot the water will get.
at Snett it was fine, never watched it go over half way on the dash.
Will hopefully start to wind up the BHP very soon,so that might change things,
but we'll have to suck it and see.
A couple of short vids from the racing at Donington today (3/4/11)
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t_GH7hEsMQ[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcAjKP_YZqc[/ame]
not sure whay the aspect ratio is wrong, but its late and its been a long day! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;370454]they certainly are.
1 of the many reasons I picked a T5. lol[/quote]
Different is good, better than being a sheep and just being like everyone else (and i like bmws. lol).
When you've got it running well you should have a lot more torque than those N/A cars.
[quote=SKIDMARKS;371341]Lookin good J T
Are we racing end of month at Brands ?[/quote]
Fingers crossed!
its all falling into place nicely
if the rolling road does not show up or cause any problems, i'll be there.
I'll will confirm ASAP
JT
ok guys,
getting into the mapping stuff and I have been asked a question.
so I'll pass it on to those who know, u!
What do these T5's rev up to?
P fandango.....thanks in advance! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;372818]ok guys,
getting into the mapping stuff and I have been asked a question.
so I'll pass it on to those who know, u!
What do these T5's rev up to?
P fandango.....thanks in advance! lol[/quote]
lmao, sure some people have gone to about 7.5k on the stock internals. But not sure your going to get any benefit from revving so high with such a small turbo. Can you 19t it within your race rules?
i could have put money on it!! lol
thanks for your swift reply.
we were thinking the same thing, after 6200 not much happening.
can only run 1.3 bar(18 psi) so I have put on a 16T just to give some headroom.
as its such an arse to change the turbo, if it goes in qually..........i'm going home! lol
thanks
jt
this is a quality quote!
Understeer: Is when you hit the wall with your front wing. Oversteer: Is when you hit the wall with your rear wing.
BHP: How fast you smash into the brick wall. Torque: How far you can drive through the brick wall.
P Fandango
just brilliant
jt
[quote=johnnytempest;372854]this is a quality quote!
Understeer: Is when you hit the wall with your front wing. Oversteer: Is when you hit the wall with your rear wing.
BHP: How fast you smash into the brick wall. Torque: How far you can drive through the brick wall.
P Fandango
just brilliant
jt[/quote]
thank you sir, i did rob it off another forum but had to have it lol
[quote=johnnytempest;373589]My latest outing.............Brands 19/04/11
http://youtu.be/lqiN6Oz9XCo[/quote]
excellent vid, looks like you know the track well. I'm guessing the Omex unit is your shift light?
OK,
My entry to Brands has been paid/booked!!!
I have a test day there on thurs next week,so as long as nothing goes wrong,
my FIA crash hat turns up along with my licence,we are go to go!!!
OMG I'm startting to get nervous already..........:yikes:
a link to a site of photos from my trackday last week:
http://www.rawaction.ifp3.com/#/gallery/19-04-open-pit-lane-day-session/bh1904-img-7915-day/
I might have to order a few! lol
cheers
JT
ok, latest..........
raced at brands yesterday, wasnt great, but pleased with the overall weekend.
still lots to do...even pedro's brother got a mention in the program!!!
race 1 footage:
http://youtu.be/ocHgFew4iMo
jobs to do:
fit swirl pot to fuel system to it cutting out with anything less than 3/4 tanks.
try and "turn off" the ABS, losing ground in the braking area.
need to get some rear camber and front adjustable top mounts.
clean out my pcv
get a new 16t actuator, as i had to fit the 1 off my 15g to my 16t.
need to persuade Tomcat to make a bonnet a boot for me, to help with the weight.
and so the list goes on
looks like you keep the car clean with no contact, keeping pace with them well & the short track isn't going to be the best place for the Volvo because its basically one continuous corner lol
thanks mate,
yea the indy bit of the track is a bit "go-kart" for the 850,
started that 37th finished 19th!!
so start race 2 in p19, its a bit more agressive! lol
race 2 vid on its way
Ok, here's race 2
I get a bit more stuck in, but went the wrong way with set-up. doh!
passed by a few cars in the early laps, they are the front runners that started from the back after race 1 crash, so not much point in trying to defend those.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05XUlj8Aemw[/ame]
[quote=johnnytempest;383808]i know, in qually i had no brakes for the last 3 laps and in race 2 i had a long pedal for the last 2 laps
i'm desperate for those AP's[/quote]
I take it then you are running 302's at the moment?
I look forward to watching these video's tonight, unfortunately youtube is banned at work :(
[quote=The Flying Moose;383812]I take it then you are running 302's at the moment?
I look forward to watching these video's tonight, unfortunately youtube is banned at work :([/quote]
yep, standard calipers,drilled/grooved discs and ebc yellowstuff pads
enjoy the vids, let me know what you think.
cheers
JT
[quote=LiamT4;383819]What brake setups are others using?
Could the brake fluid reservoire be moved? It can't be helping the fluid temps being sat above the turbo.[/quote]
I think you are going to have an issue where ever you put the reservoir as the lines are copper and conduct heat very well. Best thing in all instances is racing brake fluid with an extremely high temperature resistance, failing that 5.1 is miles better than 4.
i am using 5.1, but i do need to flush the whole system.
i thought it had been done, but after discussion yesterday, found out the fronts had just been bled a little.......?
Sounds like its definately worth a full system bleed to me then. I would recommend some Castrol SRF Racing Fluid, brilliant stuff its about £50 a litre though.
i'll see if i can get some, but i get 5.1 for nothing, so i could change it every race if i wanted too
i'll check it out, cheers
Post 383890 by Flatout Phil on 2011-06-05 20:42:52
[quote=johnnytempest;383795]Ok, here's race 2
I get a bit more stuck in, but went the wrong way with set-up. doh!
passed by a few cars in the early laps, they are the front runners that started from the back after race 1 crash, so not much point in trying to defend those.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05XUlj8Aemw[/quote]
That is an excellent vid. Brakes must be a huge issue. But keep it nice and steady and get the feel of it for now - cause nothing offends like a seriously bent car: of which there were MANY today at the Hatch - I think the pace car achieved a new mileage record, and interestingly enough the one big race of BMW 3 series (39 starters) left enough wreckage to put a smile on Duane's lovely mug ;)
[quote=Flatout Phil;383890]the one big race of BMW 3 series (39 starters) left enough wreckage to put a smile on Duane's lovely mug ;)[/quote]
lol how did you know i can't stand Bimmers as well as Mercs?
[quote=t5_monkey;383907]more awesome vids I'm well jealous you get to do all that racing! Looks like a proper Buzz.
You on standard suspension ?[/quote]
thanks and oooooh yes! what a buzz! lol
when you mention suspension, i take it your looking at the "bouncing" through the corners???
running Gaz Shocks,(coilovers on the front) and IPD anti-roll bars. we think the springs/anti-rollbars are too strong for the shocks, so I cant seem to set the car up. a work in progress..........
if you have any ideas, I open to suggestions??
JT
Post 383923 by Flatout Phil on 2011-06-05 21:28:15
[quote=t5_monkey;383907]more awesome vids I'm well jealous you get to do all that racing! Looks like a proper Buzz.
You on standard suspension ?[/quote]
I was moved to read this - and felt glad that Johnny and not me was doing it: http://www.msvracing.co.uk/media/16649/2011%20p8rs%20issue%20four.pdf
[quote=johnnytempest;383925]that link takes you to the pr8 regs???
what am i missing?? lol[/quote]
you breaking the rules :shhh: lol
£100 registration is a very good price
[quote=p fandango;383938]you breaking the rules :shhh: lol
£100 registration is a very good price[/quote]
:shhh: dont worry, because i'm not hastling the front runners, the grapevine says i might be able to run a bigger turbo and at a lower race weight too!! but thats just between you and me! lol
anyway as i was saying...........
yea 100 to register, 235 per " weekend"
i think its bloody great! but i have done 10k on the car??? lol
[quote=claymore;383945]you can't use a fiberglass bonnet, according to that link[/quote]
yeh he can
[quote]5.6 Bodywork:
5.6.1 Bodywork must be complete and standard in shape and silhouette, material and thickness on all exterior
surfaces except that bonnets, boots and spoilers may be replaced with lightweight replicas and any non
metallic panel may be replaced with a fibreglass or carbon fibre replica.[/quote]
[quote=johnnytempest;383947]:shhh: dont worry, because i'm not hastling the front runners, the grapevine says i might be able to run a bigger turbo and at a lower race weight too!! but thats just between you and me! lol[/quote]
it was the turbo i'd picked up on lol. So what weight you allowed to go down to, & how far off are you? Have you removed the heater
[quote]anyway as i was saying...........
yea 100 to register, 235 per " weekend"[/quote]
works different to Santa Pods championship races, still not bad to
race two looks fun ,that grey 3 held you up bad brakes clearly an issue as on the power your near running into the back of stuff! well with time the setup can only get better! plus you need some 94> rear lights imo ,,,lol
oh why didnt i think of putting the regs up on here before??? lol
thanks flatout!
you guys sound like your gonna find everyloop hole going and with all your experience on these cars, I'll be at the sharp end before we know it.
I cant believe your actually ready it, fantastic!
:worship::worship:
[quote=claymore;383952]The punctuation on that paragraph leaves a lot to be desired :)[/quote]
i failed English :wink: (& Geography, & Science, & RE, & Modern Technology...................lol)
[quote=claymore;383960]It certainly implies that you can get rid of all the weight in the bumpers, and just leave the plastic[/quote]
thats 10.6kg gone
[quote=johnnytempest;383964]errrr??? standard??? lol[/quote]
your allowed to change your manifolds, ME7 is better than your normal T-5 one but the S60R is best of the lot
[quote=johnnytempest;383980]SOLD! lol
do i need to speak to rufe again??[/quote]
you certainly do, i paid about £300 for my S60R manifold from him. Do you want me to sort out the part number? (please remember i'm in bed & will have to move if you say "yes")
[quote=p fandango;383982]you certainly do, i paid about £300 for my S60R manifold from him. Do you want me to sort out the part number? (please remember i'm in bed & will have to move if you say "yes")[/quote]
now there's an image i dont want to go to bed with! lol
tomorrows good, you stay where you are.
i'm guessing this means i need to takethe blower off again to fit this???
oh joy!! lol
oh by the way, pulling the fuses on the ABS worked! scared the **** out of me at 100mph out the back of the gp circuit in qually but i managed to recover it! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;383984]i'm guessing this means i need to takethe blower off again to fit this???[/quote]
V30637921 net price £259.25, & yes the turbo needs to come off (well you will modify your car without consulting me lol)
oh by the way, pulling the fuses on the ABS worked! scared the **** out of me at 100mph out the back of the gp circuit in qually but i managed to recover it! lol
i'd forgot about the ABS bodge, glad it works & hope you had a spare pair of underwear lol
16t actuator is harder than a 15g, & depending on the wallet you want a 16t with the angled outlet. It will mean changing the downpipe as well but will be 3" instead of the straights 2.5" (even quicker spool)
i assume as you've got an early T-5 you've already got the RIP kit (reverse intercooler pipes)
Regarding Brakes, if you haven't already purchased a set of AP's there is a link on here to a setup using Volvo 336mm XC90 discs and VW calipers that will fit under your Titan wheels. All for under £150 fitted. You then need to buy some Carbotech XP8 or XP10 pads or a combo of both front to back as it seems like purpose built track car. With using the VW calipers there are lots more pad options available. Hawk HPS pads, Carbone lorraine pads but steer away from EBC as they tend to be very poor on track from many forum users opinions. I'd personally stick with genuine OE spec Volvo discs from Volvo if you go the 336mm route or stay with 302mm. The 336mm disc option mentioned is a massive increase in stopping power even with standard discs.
Post 384014 by Flatout Phil on 2011-06-06 08:29:33
[quote=p fandango;383994]16t actuator is harder than a 15g, & depending on the wallet you want a 16t with the angled outlet. It will mean changing the downpipe as well but will be 3" instead of the straights 2.5" (even quicker spool)
i assume as you've got an early T-5 you've already got the RIP kit (reverse intercooler pipes)[/quote]
Have you got a recent under-bonnet photo? Why aren't you running an 18t. Thought the guys would be interested in the regs - and it seems to have paid off ;)
Why not run an 18t?
[quote=Flatout Phil;384014]Why not run an 18t?[/quote]
as per the regulations he should be running the production turbo, the only modification allowed is the fitting of 360degree bearings for reliability. Sounds like he's been given special permission to run the 16t
Post 384017 by Flatout Phil on 2011-06-06 08:42:42
[quote=p fandango;384015]as per the regulations he should be running the production turbo, the only modification allowed is the fitting of 360degree bearings for reliability. Sounds like he's been given special permission to run the 16t[/quote]
So if he ran an R could do a 16t? I think I might just accidentally put an 18t on in all innocence! Unsporting I know, but it does not sound like the scrutineers are looking too closely so I presume everyone is doing it - what a shocking assumption!
[quote=Flatout Phil;384014]Have you got a recent under-bonnet photo?[/quote]
robbed from his Photobucket account, altho not that recent as he's got 2 wipers lol
looks like you need to speak to Powerflex, top mount, tie-bar bushes (big & small) & have you done your wishbone bushes? & if you've got money to spare an MSD coil. Now you know the ABS is naff you could remove it & save some weight
[quote=Flatout Phil;384017]So if he ran an R could do a 16t? I think I might just accidentally put an 18t on in all innocence! Unsporting I know, but it does not sound like the scrutineers are looking too closely so I presume everyone is doing it - what a shocking assumption![/quote]
its got to be pre-1994 so can't use an R. We all know things are getting advertised wrong on ebay, sure i seen someone sell a 19t advertised as a 15g :wink:
[quote=p fandango;383994]16t actuator is harder than a 15g, & depending on the wallet you want a 16t with the angled outlet. It will mean changing the downpipe as well but will be 3" instead of the straights 2.5" (even quicker spool)
i assume as you've got an early T-5 you've already got the RIP kit (reverse intercooler pipes)[/quote]
I have a 3" downpipe, but I'm guessing your talking about the oulet of the turbo being 3"??
and yes RIP already done.
[quote=Flatout Phil;384014]Have you got a recent under-bonnet photo? Why aren't you running an 18t. Thought the guys would be interested in the regs - and it seems to have paid off ;)
Why not run an 18t?[/quote]
cheers Phil, working brilliantly!! lol
I could probrably get away with an 18T,cos its a stock item,but I can only run 1.3 bar of boost,so all i would gain would be some efficiency.
[quote=johnnytempest;384159]I have a 3" downpipe, but I'm guessing your talking about the oulet of the turbo being 3"??[/quote]
yeh straight outlet is 2.5"
[quote=LiamT4;384164]Surely an 18t running at 1.3 bar would give better power than the 16t at the same?[/quote]
if i'm honest, more power is not what i need at the mo,
i need to stop the car bouncing in the corners, loosing loads of time
[quote=johnnytempest;384170]if i'm honest, more power is not what i need at the mo,
i need to stop the car bouncing in the corners, loosing loads of time[/quote]
not sure if it'll be any use as your caged up, but you can get chassis braces for the 850 LINK
[quote=johnnytempest;384169]ok i'll have to see if JT tuning do an angled downpipe and how much?[/quote]
you need the angled turbo exhaust housing off an ME7 16t/19t, remove the straight housing off your turbo (which you can do while you fit your S60R manifold) & the new angled housing replaces it with no mods
[quote=johnnytempest;384181]bout 400 EUR for an angled downpipe!
might have to wait a while that 1!! lol[/quote]
if you've already got a 3" downpipe a decent exhaust manufacture (Powerflow, Longlife, Custom Chrome) should be able to adapt your current one. Its only cutting the angle different & weld on the 3" flange, assuming they didn't do the bend in 2.5" on your current pipe
Post 384184 by Flatout Phil on 2011-06-06 21:22:58
[quote=johnnytempest;384170]if i'm honest, more power is not what i need at the mo,
i need to stop the car bouncing in the corners, loosing loads of time[/quote]
I know it is probably a daft question, but have you had the car laser aligned since having the ARBs fitted? It is absolutely vital - and in the period before and after I had IPD ARB fitted, and the alignment done, the car was all over the shop. HOWEVER, wait to get the polybushes on before you have this done (actually should not alter the angles - but if there is slack in the existing ones that you later replace, this will affect the alignment) as it is a bit pricey to have done properly: Truckalign or similar. Same goes for any other bush swapping on the suspension. What damping and springing you got there?
And how do you find the Toyos? Although I only have 215/40/17 Vredesteins, they are a very 'narrow' 215, and also very rigid. I think going too wide allows too much sidewall flex.
[quote=Flatout Phil;384184]I know it is probably a daft question, but have you had the car laser aligned since having the ARBs fitted? It is absolutely vital - and in the period before and after I had IPD ARB fitted, and the alignment done, the car was all over the shop. HOWEVER, wait to get the polybushes on before you have this done (actually should not alter the angles - but if there is slack in the existing ones that you later replace, this will affect the alignment) as it is a bit pricey to have done properly: Truckalign or similar. Same goes for any other bush swapping on the suspension. What damping and springing you got there?
And how do you find the Toyos? Although I only have 215/40/17 Vredesteins, they are a very 'narrow' 215, and also very rigid. I think going too wide allows too much sidewall flex.[/quote]
not had the car aligned yet,will wait till the bushes are done.
not had much time on the toyos as they area semi slick, its all new to me at the mo
[quote=johnnytempest;384214]just found this, race 1 turn 1
http://youtu.be/3DUXAItJsM8[/quote]
all those Bimmers stoved, call me nasty but it put a smile on my face lol. I saw you :biggrin: lol
[quote=p fandango;384219]all those Bimmers stoved, call me nasty but it put a smile on my face lol. I saw you :biggrin: lol[/quote]
lol, just managed to get through it!!
[quote=johnnytempest;384214]just found this, race 1 turn 1
http://youtu.be/3DUXAItJsM8[/quote]
Ouch! Good thing you were a bit further back on the grid.
[quote=johnnytempest;384227]I didnt realise it was that bad, now I know how i managed to make up so many places[/quote]
Doesn't matter how you get to the front, just as long as you do lol
There were far too many BMWs in Project 8, needed pruning ;)
[quote=johnnytempest;384170]if i'm honest, more power is not what i need at the mo,
i need to stop the car bouncing in the corners, loosing loads of time[/quote]
I think that might be the dampers ? :)
If you can put up with increased vibration through the cabin you can replace lots of flexible rubber bushes at the front for firmer items. The subframe bushes can be replaced for Delrin bushes, so can the upper engine mounts and tie box mount. These are good upgrades over standard if your on track a lot which it seems you are. You can buy a later model angled downpie from the States off ebay for around £140 then have an inter mediate section made up between the downpipe and cat back with either a cat or straight through section depending on the series regulations. Buying this complete exhaust system would work out cheaper after import taxes than the JT downpipe and you could sell the complete system on as your only after one of the downpipes that come with it http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-TURBO-BACK-TURBOBACK-EXHAUST-VOLVO-850-C70-V70-S70-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3368706ff2QQitemZ220795531250QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
[quote=t5_monkey;384280]I think that might be the dampers ? :)[/quote]
we think the springs are too strong so the dampers are not doing their job, topped off with an IPD ARB,the front is pretty stiff.
gonna try and soften everything up
got a trackday lined up next week, to see if we can get to the bottom of it
JT
[quote=Alan M;384292]If you can put up with increased vibration through the cabin you can replace lots of flexible rubber bushes at the front for firmer items. The subframe bushes can be replaced for Delrin bushes, so can the upper engine mounts and tie box mount. These are good upgrades over standard if your on track a lot which it seems you are. You can buy a later model angled downpie from the States off ebay for around £140 then have an inter mediate section made up between the downpipe and cat back with either a cat or straight through section depending on the series regulations. Buying this complete exhaust system would work out cheaper after import taxes than the JT downpipe and you could sell the complete system on as your only after one of the downpipes that come with it http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-TURBO-BACK-TURBOBACK-EXHAUST-VOLVO-850-C70-V70-S70-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3368706ff2QQitemZ220795531250QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories[/quote]
thanks,
bushes are on my shopping list, not sure I really want to buy another exhaust just yet, only done 4 races on the 1 I have! lol
seriously, I have to say thanks for all this info from everyone,
I am on a high at the mo,knowing all these mods will improve the car over time. Its getting better and better all the time!
Thanks again
JT
The angled downpipes from those kits come up on the forums at times for around £120 but you will need to remove or alter the crash guard between the downpipe and steering rack for them to fit clear without rubbing. If you do buy an exhaust you can resell it on ebay over here to cover a lot of the price you paid if not the full amount you need back.
Hi all,
Just an update, I'm booked in for the race meeting at Oulton Park on the 2nd July.
A new circuit for me, never been there, but I'm sure Iill have some fun.
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;385081]Just an update, I'm booked in for the race meeting at Oulton Park on the 2nd July.
A new cicuit for me, never been there, but I'm sure Iill have some fun.[/quote]
100mile & 2hours away :sorry:
don't you fancy racing at somewhere like Mallory lol
[quote=p fandango;385083]100mile & 2hours away :sorry:
don't you fancy racing at somewhere like Mallory lol[/quote]
Its closer to you than me,gonna take me about 5 hours to get there! lol
soz mate mallory aint on the calender, you'll have to wait till donington..
[quote=p fandango;385083]100mile & 2hours away :sorry:
don't you fancy racing at somewhere like Mallory lol[/quote]
I'll go, if you fancy it, share the fuel bill?
[quote=LiamT4;385089]I'll go, if you fancy it, share the fuel bill?[/quote]
yeh that sounds good, we'll go in Bonny & not your gas guzzler tho lol. Its the day after payday so should have some money left lol
how much is it to get in?
[quote=p fandango;385091]yeh that sounds good, we'll go in Bonny & not your gas guzzler tho lol. Its the day after payday so should have some money left lol
how much is it to get in?[/quote]
Hey, it can get 35mpg on a run (if you have a light foot. lol).
Thats only about 20mpg less than your d5....... yeah we'll go in yours!
[quote=johnnytempest;385095]£10 in advance
£13 on the gate
kids under 13 go free
I'll leave it up to you 2 which 1 is gonna play the kid!! lol[/quote]
does ordering them on the 1st class as advanced booking lol. I'll be the kid, think i'll get away with it easier lol
[quote=Pault5estate;385097]Might have to pop along too, will be volvo-less though :([/quote]
oh no!
I thought we were gonna get some pics of the cars together?? lol
whats happened?
[quote=johnnytempest;385104]oh no!
I thought we were gonna get some pics of the cars together?? lol
whats happened?[/quote]
i'll bring some Volvo badges & sticker up his car, no-one will notice lol. Will i be allowed in the pics as Bonny is powered by Satan (ie diesel lol)
[quote=p fandango;385107]i'll bring some Volvo badges & sticker up his car, no-one will notice lol. Will i be allowed in the pics as Bonny is powered by Satan (ie diesel lol)[/quote]
PMSL!!!!
we can park bonny next to my van, thats diesel!!
[quote=p fandango;385114]aslong as its not got the magic blue oval :wink:[/quote]
Not a chance, mines got a bit of a id crisis though!
is it a renault??
is it a vauxhall??
or is it a nissan??
depending on which panel/part you look at, could be any one of the above! lol
[quote=p fandango;385122]so basically its a ringer, having a different reg on the front than the rear was a bit of a clue somethings not right lol[/quote]
two steering wheels should have rung bells!! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;385120]Not a chance, mines got a bit of a id crisis though!
is it a renault??
is it a vauxhall??
or is it a nissan??
depending on which panel/part you look at, could be any one of the above! lol[/quote]
my bro's got one of them, his is the renault trafic version. lol
[quote=johnnytempest;385104]oh no!
I thought we were gonna get some pics of the cars together?? lol
whats happened?[/quote]
Problems with my diff, again! :(
[quote=p fandango;385122]so basically its a ringer, having a different reg on the front than the rear was a bit of a clue somethings not right lol[/quote]
Sounds a bit like BT, cut n shut....only more cut and less shut on BT lol
[quote=JelT5;385213]Sounds a bit like BT, cut n shut....only more cut and less shut on BT lol[/quote]
the doors still shut if that counters, is quite a gap between the panels now tho lol
[quote=p fandango;385216]the doors still shut if that counters, is quite a gap between the panels now tho lol[/quote]
You need TC there with his Blue Peter kit to fill the gaps mate ;)
not quite that much!
that would melt the vinyls. Lol
If i was at home, i would edit the video with a bit of flame on, but blink and you'll miss it, so maybe best i dont bother?? Lol
evening all!
just doing some checks on the car fluids etc.....
the power steering fluid looks like a chocolate milkshake???
that cant be right??
how do I go about flushing it out and replacing it with some nice new stuff?
and the tank for the power steering fluid seems to leak quite a bit,looks like its coming out of the cap?, maybe there's another problem causing that??
also, anyone have a list of plod volvos? I'm starting to sense something here,
but I'm not sure??? lol
[quote=johnnytempest;387639]evening all!
just doing some checks on the car fluids etc.....
the power steering fluid looks like a chocolate milkshake???
that cant be right??
how do I go about flushing it out and replacing it with some nice new stuff?
and the tank for the power steering fluid seems to leak quite a bit,looks like its coming out of the cap?, maybe there's another problem causing that??
also, anyone have a list of plod volvos? I'm starting to sense something here,
but I'm not sure??? lol[/quote]
from underneath the car find the 2 pipes from the PAS pump, they are bolted to the subframe & be under the airbox sort of area. One of the pipes is a low pressure return pipe & should be connected with a simple jubilee clip, thats the lowest point in the system so best to drain it from there. The system is fully independant & a very simple system, all you've got is the pump, tank, 2 pipes (high pressure & low pressure return) & the steering rack. If it is playing up you better just replacing the whole pump & tank assembly
[quote=johnnytempest;387684]no pics though???[/quote]
not of the simple boring system i'm afraid mate. Doubt your rules would allow an electric system would they?
I dont remember anything about NOT running it, but I would guess at a no,simply because its not an original part that was on the car pre '94.
I'm not sure my little racing battery could cope anyway!! lol
which surprised me when I looked back through your thread,your still using a wet battery? think of the weight man? lol
anyway, back to the steering, I'm assuming I need to drain and top up at the same time so I dont get an airlock in the system?
any ideas on the leaky cap?
[quote=johnnytempest;387779]I dont remember anything about NOT running it, but I would guess at a no,simply because its not an original part that was on the car pre '94.
I'm not sure my little racing battery could cope anyway!! lol
which surprised me when I looked back through your thread,your still using a wet battery? think of the weight man? lol[/quote]
it is a heavy duty battery i'm using at the minute but will get a smaller battery eventually, probably still be a wet one because i want to remove to try running without the alternator & want to make sure theirs always enough power to get her started
anyway, back to the steering, I'm assuming I need to drain and top up at the same time so I dont get an airlock in the system?
as its a pump with return feed it should bleed the air back to the tank itself. Drain it, fill it back up & turn the steering lock side to side a few times
any ideas on the leaky cap?
either get a new cap, or do like Volvo did on the BTCC evaluation car lol
[quote=p fandango;387659]from underneath the car find the 2 pipes from the PAS pump, they are bolted to the subframe & be under the airbox sort of area. One of the pipes is a low pressure return pipe & should be connected with a simple jubilee clip, thats the lowest point in the system so best to drain it from there. The system is fully independant & a very simple system, all you've got is the pump, tank, 2 pipes (high pressure & low pressure return) & the steering rack. If it is playing up you better just replacing the whole pump & tank assembly[/quote]
ok, I must be missing something !! lol
no jubilee clips on my pas pipes???
they go under the centre on the engine and onto the bottom of the steering rack.
i'll tell you why, because it comes partly up the front of the engine as a metal pipe then changes to rubber by the fan DOH. Sorry mate, your best bet will be take the return pipe off the reservoir & drain the tank out. Sorry mate i was getting confused because i've linked mine underneath, sorry
[quote=johnnytempest;388210]no probs
thought i was going mad!? lol[/quote]
we've had a vote & yes you are going mad, but i screwed up on that one lol
[quote]as for these wishbone bushes??
they aint gonna fit in there, surely??[/quote]
not a chance, even the diameter looks too big. There not the right ones or you've got different arms for some reason. You got your tie-bar bushes in? (under the gearbox)
[quote=johnnytempest;388216]not yet, but its on the list!
do you think I have ex-force car here??
most stuff I get for it, dont fit!
like its all non standard? lol[/quote]
possible, but as yours was green i wouldn't of thought they would of bothered uprating it
diesel, AWD R & police
normal
[quote=BLACKDOG;388574]Mr Fandango. Still on for Oulten Park?
If so you can check out the ICE install then.[/quote]
yeh still on for it, whats the plan for meeting up?
[quote=Tomcat;388588]Mmmm tempted as Oulten's only a short hop down t'motorway for me.[/quote]
it'll be good to finally meet up, & it'll save you postage :wink: lol
[quote=johnnytempest;388210]no probs
thought i was going mad!? lol
as for these wishbone bushes??
they aint gonna fit in there, surely??
[/quote]
Those look right. If they are parts (PFF88-101) they should be correct. Use an Arbour or hydraulic press for easy fitting and they will fit the arms well. They can be a little tight to get into position on the subframe when the new bushes are fitted but they will fit. The tophat ring can split but don't worry as this won affect the bush.
[quote=p fandango;388580]yeh still on for it, whats the plan for meeting up?[/quote]
I'll drive up to your neck of the woods and we can take it from there.
Link below is for the timetable for the day.
http://www.msvracing.co.uk/media/12240/timetable%202%20july%20op%20issue%20one.pdf
What time did you want to get to Oulton park?
[quote=Alan M;388597]Those look right. If they are parts (PFF88-101) they should be correct. Use an Arbour or hydraulic press for easy fitting and they will fit the arms well. They can be a little tight to get into position on the subframe when the new bushes are fitted but they will fit. The tophat ring can split but don't worry as this won affect the bush.[/quote]
Your right, parts number is PFF88-101
Ok, I'll give them a go next week, wont have time between now and brands on fri.
thanks
coolstuff, been watching some youtube vids looks like quite a long circuit,
so I'm hoping it suits the volvo better than brands indy.
I'm sure I'll post up some vids after the race,so watch this space! lol
[quote=BLACKDOG;388654]I'll drive up to your neck of the woods and we can take it from there.
Link below is for the timetable for the day.
http://www.msvracing.co.uk/media/12240/timetable%202%20july%20op%20issue%20one.pdf
What time did you want to get to Oulton park?[/quote]
sounds good to me, the first race is 8.30 so like to get there by 7.30 really so we can have a nose around
looks like theirs going to be quite a big crowd, no pressure Johnny but you better do well lol
[quote=johnnytempest;388945]loadsa pressure,yes
chance of me doing well? Not a hope! Lol[/quote]
theirs going to be trouble if were going all that way to watch & the only thing you race against is that digger again lol
And that is qually at 8:30, dont know if that makes a difference?
got to make a full day out of it so i'd like to be there to watch the lot
[quote=p fandango;388953]theirs going to be trouble if were going all that way to watch & the only thing you race against is that digger again lol[/quote]
I'm not racing him, he's dirty!!! lol
it shouldn't of took that long to do, what you messing about it lol.
whats the blue thing on the perforated strip in place of the alarm siren, you can see it better in this pic behind the RIP kit top pipe
[QUOTE=p fandango;388933]sounds good to me, the first race is 8.30 so like to get there by 7.30 really so we can have a nose around
OK. Via Michelin claims 1Hr 43mins using the M6 Toll. So we are looking to leave Cov at about 6.00 am then?
Looks like I might have to talk to Daddy and see if I can stop the night at his in Earl Shilton.
Failing that it's a 4.30 start for me....
PM sent
[quote=BLACKDOG;389146]OK. Via Michelin claims 1Hr 43mins using the M6 Toll. So we are looking to leave Cov at about 6.00 am then?
Looks like I might have to talk to Daddy and see if I can stop the night at his in Earl Shilton.
Failing that it's a 4.30 start for me....
PM sent[/quote]
replied, i'm up early anyway so don't mind what time we set off. I just think its good to get it & set-up before the racing starts & get a good spot, plus i think we need to find Johnny before the race & give him some encouragement
I was at Brands today,trying to set the car up, we did ok,lost another sec of a lap
and I got some encouragement today from a certain BTCC driver no less!!
Matt Neal, incase you dont know!! lol
my bro used to work for a car accessory shop in Cov, when they started selling Team Dynamic wheels Matt Neal gave them the tour round the factory in Birmingham. They also brought his BTCC Nissan Primera (which he was racing at the time, shows how long ago it was) over when they had an open day, had to do a 20point turn on the main road to get it inplace lol
[quote=Pault5estate;389293]The lad who is building mine works on Gordon Sheddon's car, every time he breaks it, he's off to fix it![/quote]
a very busy man then lol
he had a lookof horror on his face! lol
past nightmares me thinks
he did remember them "and the estates" was his comment.
he was busy involved in a "project" in the next garage, not sure what he was up too??
so didnt get a great deal of chat with him, nice bloke.
[quote=johnnytempest;389303]he had a lookof horror on his face! lol
past nightmares me thinks
he did remember them "and the estates" was his comment.[/quote]
he would of been a privateer back in the Volvo days so not really in the same race as them, although i was at Donnington when he won & became the first privateer to win a race outright (the atmosphere was amazing, especially when he stalled during his pitstop & the race got very close). I was a bit disappointed when he became a works driver
he was busy involved in a "project" in the next garage, not sure what he was up too??
i wonder if he was testing a "team-mate avoidance system" lol
[quote=johnnytempest;389306]if matt would stop taking him out! lol[/quote]
All I know is that there were some choice words thrown about in the garage after that happened!
[quote=Pault5estate;389315]All I know is that there were some choice words thrown about in the garage after that happened![/quote]
Matt's dad still owns the team so i bet he was still careful what he said if he wants to carry on driving lol
[quote=Pault5estate;389332]The track hasn't been open that long?[/quote]
who knows whats going on????
i'll post some more details, should i get anything
[quote=johnnytempest;389331]bad news today!
Donnington meeting has been cancelled!
not anything to do with PR8, some complication at the track
DOH![/quote]
i didn't know you were meant of to of been racing there, shame its been a few years since i've been there
[quote=johnnytempest;385086]Its closer to you than me,gonna take me about 5 hours to get there! lol
soz mate mallory aint on the calender, you'll have to wait till donington..[/quote]
post #198 lol
[quote=johnnytempest;389370]post #198 lol[/quote]
oh come on, you haven't twigged i don't read the whole post yet lol
& do you know how hard it was to find post 198, its almost as bad as one of my own threads lol
ok, losing oil from the front area of the engine
about half a ltr over a 15 minute run?
as you can see had all this apart and the only thing i can find is:
a girly washer on the bottom of the dipstick tube!
should this just "fall out"?
or is there something else I should look for?
cheers JT
Likely to be the PCV rather than the dipstick, do you still have the PCV in place or are you running a catch tank?, if your running a catch tank then check the lines etc, would be very surprised if the dipstick is leaking.
[quote=Vikingxl;389555]Pedro should be an expert on dipsticks[/quote]
i had to buy 3 before i found one that fits BT, i've been to sleep since then tho so forgot about them all lol
ok, before i removed everything it looked very similar to this:
oil lines look ok, dry at the rad end, soaked at the other, but thats right next to the dipstick tube entry point
[quote=Vikingxl;389555]Pedro should be an expert on dipsticks[/quote]
Viking you never cease to amuse me! Absolute class another five minutes spent on the floor in pain laughing :hilarious
yep thats all tight
I really cant see anything other than the tube that holds the dipstick.
a very similar entry to the turbo oil return pipe, and that leaked to start with,so I think i might try and seal it in place and cross my fingers
cheers guys
i have no idea if its fixed or not???? Lol, only seems to leak when its been put under pressure??
yes, i'm still going racing at oulton park on saturday, well reminded! Lol.
Only 24 runners this time out, so need to do something special, to get a good result.
Looking forward to meeting some of you, dont forget ur tools!
Except for mr grinder, he can stay home!
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;390557]i have no idea if its fixed or not???? Lol, only seems to leak when its been put under pressure??[/quote]
you've got no number plates & sure they won't be able to keep up so get out there & test it lol
[quote]yes, i'm still going racing at oulton park on saturday, well reminded! Lol.
Only 24 runners this time out, so need to do something special, to get a good result.
Looking forward to meeting some of you, dont forget ur tools!
Except for mr grinder, he can stay home![/quote]
yeh i'm really looking forward to meetin up, never been to Oulton park before either. What do you want me to bring?
come on Tomcat as well, you've got to come i want my splitter (& too meet you of course lol)
[quote=Tomcat;390564]Is it this Saturday?, what time you getting there mate?. If I come I'll have to bring my daughter though but I'm sure she'll enjoy herself.[/quote]
i'm only messing, if you can't make it then its no bother. It is this weekend & trying to get there for about 7.30, be good finally meet you (we haven't met before have we? lol)
i'll PM you my phone number
Cool, going to come (all being well), 7.30 eh?, what it's an evening race is it?.....Gawd there goes my lie in again. No we've not actualy met yet.....so prepare yourself lmao.
[quote=Tomcat;390598]Cool, going to come (all being well), 7.30 eh?, what it's an evening race is it?.....Gawd there goes my lie in again. No we've not actualy met yet.....so prepare yourself lmao.[/quote]
lazy sod, i normally start work at 5am lol. Be good to finally meet up, & don't forget that bloody splitter lol. I'll PM you my number when i can be bothered
Lmao, I do normaly get up at 6 for work but being as I'm off poorly and I'm finally sleeping again I'm trying to get a lie in...not that it'll happen that is.
[quote=Tomcat;390618]Lmao, I do normaly get up at 6 for work but being as I'm off poorly and I'm finally sleeping again I'm trying to get a lie in...not that it'll happen that is.[/quote]
if your off work skiving you should of had plenty of lie-ins already, one day getting up before noon won't hurt mate lol
[quote=p fandango;390563]you've got no number plates & sure they won't be able to keep up so get out there & test it lol
yeh i'm really looking forward to meetin up, never been to Oulton park before either. What do you want me to bring?[/quote]
yea right! cos it doesn't stand out or anything like that?? lol
only joking about the tools, you just enjoy the day!
[quote=johnnytempest;390653]yea right! cos it doesn't stand out or anything like that?? lol
only joking about the tools, you just enjoy the day![/quote]
you can stand out as much as you want, but its no good if they can't keep up (look at the Japspeed Impreza lol)
i'm looking forward to it already
[quote=johnnytempest;390677]Pedro........look what the misses has gone and done!!! lol
where does she get her ideas from??? pmsl[/quote]
lmao thats brilliant, good see all that money Volvo put into the BTCC research has been put to use on another car
how do you find the FSE works? & whats the vac pipe you've got feeding into the ECU box? & is the top of your engine tamper sealed like the rules say it should be, because non-turbo cams might be worth looking into
[quote=p fandango;390682]lmao thats brilliant, good see all that money Volvo put into the BTCC research has been put to use on another car
how do you find the FSE works? & whats the vac pipe you've got feeding into the ECU box? & is the top of your engine tamper sealed like the rules say it should be, because non-turbo cams might be worth looking into[/quote]
sorry mate long day........Fse???
the vac pipe u see is a USB cable from the turbo tuner, through to the passenger side for live mapping.
engine is not required to have tamper seals at present,
non turbo cams......stronger or better performance??
[quote=johnnytempest;390691]sorry mate long day........Fse???
the vac pipe u see is a USB cable from the turbo tuner, through to the passenger side for live mapping.
engine is not required to have tamper seals at present,
non turbo cams......stronger or better performance??[/quote]
FSE is the fuel regulator you've got. I didn't know you'd got Turbo Tuner ECU, good isn't it. Think the non-turbo cams have a longer duration
[quote=p fandango;390693]FSE is the fuel regulator you've got. I didn't know you'd got Turbo Tuner ECU, good isn't it. Think the non-turbo cams have a longer duration[/quote]
oh yea, 'course it is! lol..............longer day than i thought
i think it made a small difference and gave me the flames on the downshift!
turbo tuner i have left to someone that knows what they are doing, but a massive difference from the stock unit.
will have to look at getting some more power over winter
target around 350/360
[quote=johnnytempest;390698]oh yea, 'course it is! lol..............longer day than i thought[/quote]
i'm not saying anything, i've already nodded off to sleep twice tonight lol
[quote]i think it made a small difference and gave me the flames on the downshift!
turbo tuner i have left to someone that knows what they are doing, but a massive difference from the stock unit.[/quote]
thats what i intend to do when i get a turbo tuner, got a local tuner who does very very good rates for tuning on there dyno
[quote]will have to look at getting some more power over winter
target around 350/360[/quote]
19t is it then
i have on my list:
19t
blues
me7 manifold
angled downpipe
and i think you mentioned a throttle body too
if i have a good weekend,then i'll order my AP's
so I have them for Zandvoort in sept
and i have ordered new springs too to help settle the car down
disconnected the IPD arb on fri and lost a second off the laptime!
so if it continues to go in that direction, my arb should be for sale soon
[quote=johnnytempest;390705]i have on my list:
19t
blues
me7 manifold
angled downpipe
and i think you mentioned a throttle body too
if i have a good weekend,then i'll order my AP's
so I have them for Zandvoort in sept
and i have ordered new springs too to help settle the car down
disconnected the IPD arb on fri and lost a second off the laptime!
so if it continues to go in that direction, my arb should be for sale soon[/quote]
its the 3litre Volvo 960 throttle body you want, getting harder to find now tho. I'd also suggest giving 3" pipes a try for the RIP kit. Might be able to lend you mine to try if we meet up for another race weekend
interesting about the IPD, first dibs if you don't mind (& not going to rip me off lol)
[quote=johnnytempest;390709]and just to give you half a chance of finding me:
http://www.msvracing.co.uk/media/28784/paddock%20plan%20issue%20two%20op%20july%202.pdf[/quote]
i'm going to need more than a map, just talking to someone about the weekend & trying to figure out where Oulton park is. They said thought its Norfolk i thought it was Lancashire, which apparently is the opposite direction to Norfolk so no idea where i'm going lol
i can bring my 3" RIP top hose with me which will fit straight onto yours but not sure how well it'll work with the smaller bottom hose if you want to try it
[quote=p fandango;390708]its the 3litre Volvo 960 throttle body you want, getting harder to find now tho. I'd also suggest giving 3" pipes a try for the RIP kit. Might be able to lend you mine to try if we meet up for another race weekend
interesting about the IPD, first dibs if you don't mind (& not going to rip me off lol)[/quote]
i think it could help you in a straight line, but it doesnt seem to work for me round corners, although having said that, I found out this week I have 900lb springs on the front added with the arb, its no wonder it was bouncing.when i get my new springs on, i might try it again,but i dont think its right for me.
dont lend me any rip pipes yet, i'm still having probs in that area, finding fluid in the pipes, but thats something i would like to chat about at the weekend
[quote=johnnytempest;390712]i think it could help you in a straight line, but it doesnt seem to work for me round corners, although having said that, I found out this week I have 900lb springs on the front added with the arb, its no wonder it was bouncing.when i get my new springs on, i might try it again,but i dont think its right for me.[/quote]
why don't you remove the front suspension struts & weld a bar in instead, i think it'll be softer lol
dont lend me any rip pipes yet, i'm still having probs in that area, finding fluid in the pipes, but thats something i would like to chat about at the weekend
the PCV system lets oil thru so will get some in the pipes & intercooler anyway
[quote=p fandango;390719]why don't you remove the front suspension struts & weld a bar in instead, i think it'll be softer lol
might as well!! lol
the PCV system lets oil thru so will get some in the pipes & intercooler anyway[/quote]
oh well thats good news....... i think? lol
[quote=johnnytempest;390721]oh well thats good news....... i think? lol[/quote]
shouldn't be a huge about but enough to coat the inside, i'm surprised your not running a catch tank
[quote=p fandango;390723]shouldn't be a huge about but enough to coat the inside, i'm surprised your not running a catch tank[/quote]
all to be continued at trackside! lol
i'm not experienced enough with these cars yet, only started to build it about march time, so it might take a while for things to sink in my thick head! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;390728]all to be continued at trackside![/quote]
i can see it being a long day, but for the right reasons. You sure you don't want me to bring my grinder & get than 25kg off? lol
[quote=p fandango;390731]i can see it being a long day, but for the right reasons. You sure you don't want me to bring my grinder & get than 25kg off? lol[/quote]
we could loose the bonnet hinges and springs, that'll do it?? lol
[quote=johnnytempest;390733]we could loose the bonnet hinges and springs, that'll do it?? lol[/quote]
springs weigh 1.6kg & the hinges weigh 4.4kg each so still need more. If you do remove them be careful when you cut thru the spring, they've got alot of tension in them & fly anywhere lol
[quote=p fandango;390737]springs weigh 1.6kg & the hinges weigh 4.4kg each so still need more. If you do remove them be careful when you cut thru the spring, they've got alot of tension in them & fly anywhere lol[/quote]
yea i know, have taken 1 off before just to see what it weighed
they do go with a bang!!
lol
[quote=Tomcat;390740]Could still do you a fibreglass bonnet and boot lid, that would cut down on the weight.[/quote]
oh yes!
but i think, its gonna have to wait till the winter now :(
[quote=johnnytempest;390742]oh yes!
but i think, its gonna have to wait till the winter now :([/quote]
If....and I do mean If.... I can get a cheap bonnet/boot lid then the priice for them will come down quite a bit, but they'll still be loads of work to make.
[quote=p fandango;390743]when does the season end?[/quote]
1 race at castle combe 23/24 july
and 2 races at zandvoort 10/11 sept
and thats it now donny has been cancelled.
they are looking into a replacement for donny, but nothing comfirmed yet
[quote=Tomcat;390744]If....and I do mean If.... I can get a cheap bonnet/boot lid then the priice for them will come down quite a bit, but they'll still be loads of work to make.[/quote]
no probs, I understand that
I do have my eye open for a bonnet, but its getting up to you thats a problem,
be cheaper to send you the money and get it locally i think.
as you well know, they are a big lump of metal!! lol
[quote=Tomcat;390744]If....and I do mean If.... I can get a cheap bonnet/boot lid then the priice for them will come down quite a bit, but they'll still be loads of work to make.[/quote]
oooooooo what about a BTCC rep front splitter/bumper???
the organisers would love that!! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;390749]oooooooo what about a BTCC rep front splitter/bumper???
the organisers would love that!! lol[/quote]
i had the real thing, & it weigh'd a ton lol
[quote=johnnytempest;390749]oooooooo what about a BTCC rep front splitter/bumper???
the organisers would love that!! lol[/quote]
You can already buy something similar but I don't know how expensive it is, I have been giving thought to making something similar for mine but a little better looking,lol.
Bloody hell duane 7.30! Thats early.
Oh and JT, if your going for the 19t and high boost you'll want bigger injectors than the blues, s60r (green) injectors minimum.
[quote=LiamT4;390763]Bloody hell duane 7.30! Thats early.[/quote]
thats what time i'd like to get there mate, Blackdog is getting to mine for 6. I'll give you a ring later & finalise everything
[quote=p fandango;390782]thats what time i'd like to get there mate, Blackdog is getting to mine for 6. I'll give you a ring later & finalise everything[/quote]
I'll decide tomorrow mate. I'm not sure if its actually possible for me to get up that early on a sat, as i'll have to get up at 5 to get to yours for 6.
Good to meet everyone today, good to see your car in action Johnny, how did you do in that last race?, I had to get off as the little un was getting restless (as they do). Thanks again to Pedro and Blackdog for putting up with me and Jess, got home....fell asleep...lmao..
as Tomcat has already said, was very good to meet up with everyone & put even more faces to names (altho i'll forget them by tomorrow). Got there almost exactly the same time as Tomcat & just caught him parking up as we were walking to the paddock area, had a bit of a hunt to find Johnny between all the BMW's & Ferrari's around the area. Had a good nose around the car then it was time for qualifying. Looked like he was keeping up well with the BMW's, qualified 17th. Race 1 went very well & had a good run & got upto 11th, all looking good till the last corner when we heard he'd lost 2 places. Went back to the pits to see the 850 jacked high on the one side, turns out he had an off on the final bend, lost the places & destroyed the front splitter. Haven't spoke to Johnny about the final race but the car didn't sound happy, sounded like a slight misfire to me & think he lost quite a few places. As said tho it was nice meeting everyone, lovely day & had a good laugh during it as well
Thanks for coming along!
was really good to meet up hope we can do it again soon.
As already mentioned, I had a little excursion and only mananged to damage the front splitter.
I'll put up the full vids later, but for now.............the off
Last turn, last lap! DOH! lost 2 places over the line, gutted.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c2s1oy38jE[/ame]
oh it was quite a big moment & did well to keep it off the wall, is that the corner you were on about with the bump because it did seem to just jump off the racing line
i'll bring my overalls next time lol
[quote=p fandango;391701]oh it was quite a big moment & did well to keep it off the wall, is that the corner you were on about with the bump because it did seem to just jump off the racing line
i'll bring my overalls next time lol[/quote]
yea you can see on the vid at which point I realised I was heading for the wall as all of sudden... full lock right!! lol
thats wasnt the corner I meant, but it went off the line as I turned in way too early.
bring your overalls??
when Sam was taking the car apart to check the damage, a mankini wouldn't have stopped you getting involved!!:lol:
[quote=johnnytempest;391704]bring your overalls??
when Sam was taking the car apart to check the damage, a mankini wouldn't have stopped you getting involved!!:lol:[/quote]
hey as long as it been washed i'll wear it lol. Couldn't let the poor lad do all the work while everyone was stood round talking. Typical racing driver, i'll crash it you fix it :wink: lol
[quote=Tomcat;391710]At least he didn't break the grinder out to help remove stuff...[/quote]
I have to admit, I was quite pleased to see all he had in his hands was a camera!! phew! lol
oh and a pleasure to me you sir!
[quote=p fandango;391939]did you notice any power loss in the second race because it didn't sound right? i thought you'd got a slighty missfire[/quote]
cant say i remember anything, except hitting the rev limiter a few times, tiredness creaping in
[quote=johnnytempest;391968]cant say i remember anything, except hitting the rev limiter a few times, tiredness creaping in[/quote]
no it defo weren't the limiter, it was when you were on throttle going up the hill after the chicane. I think it was a little miss fire, pointed it out to Blackdog & he said it sounded a bit flat
hopefully it might of just been our positioning & how the surrounding were affecting the noise then
[quote=johnnytempest;391970]i'll check it out on the video, but i know we only seemed to get half of race 2 for some reason???[/quote]
the camera must of been sulking in sympathy for the ex-splitter lol. Hopefully its just where we were then, it was only very slight & just sounded like it was missing a bit when on full boost
start of race 2.
didnt go well, got stuck behind a rover with a knackered clutch and not much changed for the rest of the race
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjihehC-5Vg[/ame]
Hi all,
next meet: Sat 23 July @ Castle combe
another track I have never been to before and no practice before hand either, so that
should make things interesting???
JT
[quote=Tomcat;392752]Oooerr, at least you've no spoiler to rip off this time when you go off roading...[/quote]
i thought i did quite well?? lol
anyway, the meet is now poss sunday??
I really dont know....
update asap
Thought you did really well, I'd love to come to the next race but I'm back at work next week so won't have much spare time. Great to see a Volvo showing these damn Bm's what it's all about.
whats involved in removing the canister in front of the nearside front wheel?
whats if for?
what does it do?
also, can i bypass the tube that runs around the plugs and take a tube from the ptc straight to the connection on the throttle body?
jt
[quote=johnnytempest;392750]Hi all,
next meet: Sat 23 July @ Castle combe
another track I have never been to before and no practice before hand either, so that
should make things interesting???
JT[/quote]
Ooooh no practice on Combe...very interesting indeed lol
Watch out for Avon Rise going into Quarry corner...it's an absolute killer for the unwary! Other than that it's a really nice little circuit.
Seen many people wipe their cars out on Quarry when I used to take my RS there for track days in the 90s.
It's rated as one of the most difficult corners on any circuit in the UK and I agree with that totally, real bast@rd if you get it wrong, which, of course, you won't :)
[quote=johnnytempest;393451]whats involved in removing the canister in front of the nearside front wheel?
whats if for?
what does it do?
also, can i bypass the tube that runs around the plugs and take a tube from the ptc straight to the connection on the throttle body?
jt[/quote]
I think it's a sort of breather for the fuel tank?? that's where the pipe finishes if you follow it underneath.
You should be able to pull the pipe off and slide it down i cant remember how they are fixed as mine has a large cable tie around it :)
Isn't it a charcoal cannister to eliminate any petrol fumes from the tank breather?....or something like that..lol.If that's what it is then you could remove the cannister and just put a small K&N type filter on the end of the pipe as your only racing the car.
[quote=p fandango;393481]i just binned the tank & think i left the pipe open, its only a very small diameter pipe[/quote]
i'm sure there are 2 pipes?????
[quote=johnnytempest;393519]i think 1 comes from a unit bolted to the cooilng fan??
i'll have to double check tomorrow[/quote]
yeh which then goes into the manifold (i think), bin both the carbon canistor & the unit on the fan panel
[quote=p fandango;393527]yeh which then goes into the manifold (i think), bin both the carbon canistor & the unit on the fan panel[/quote]
so that can go too or will it not start??
[quote=johnnytempest;393529]so that can go too or will it not start??[/quote]
mine accidentally fell off :wink:
what it does is the carbon canistor saves all the petrol fumes it gets from the petrol tank, then the unit on the fan panel feds these fumes into the engine when you start it. It saves emissions as the fuel vapours aren't released into the atmosphere, & meant to help starting as they are being used as a sort of choke
ok, so bin the canistor
and the "choke" valve
put a small filter on the fuel tank breather
and block off the hose from the choke to the engine
??????????
easy really, lol
[quote=johnnytempest;393606]ok, so bin the canistor
and the "choke" valve
put a small filter on the fuel tank breather
and block off the hose from the choke to the engine
??????????
easy really, lol[/quote]
i didn't bother with a filter, just removed as much of the pipework as i could. All the rest sounds good to me, although i did do it a few years ago so can't remember much about it lol
hi all
trying to fit 19t but the water pipes dont line up
assuming i have to modify something, does it matter which 1 goes where?
and any easy ways of doing this?
cheers
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;394716]hi all
trying to fit 19t but the water pipes dont line up
assuming i have to modify something, does it matter which 1 goes where?
and any easy ways of doing this?
cheers
JT[/quote]
I thought they were the same as a 15g, in what way don't they line up?
Are there any entrances on the opposite side, like the 15g, that have simply been blocked off? Can you unblock one and block the then unused one on the opposite side..
[quote=claymore;394723]There must be two different types, the one's I'v seen look just like the the 15g, sorry I'm not much help,
[/quote]
how did that happen??
wouldnt open till i replied??? weird
You can make them work. You need to use the existing steel pipework but alter the shape of it after heating the metal to the point where you can bend it to the shape you require. A good engineering shop should be able to do it if you can't. It is easy to do. A good plumber or pipefitter or welder should be able to do it aswell if that is easier. I've done this with a couple of turbos to fit the 850 as the later 16t turbos have the same water outlet/inlet positions on the CHRA.
I forgot to say aswell that if the CHRA has a core with blocked water jacket holes with core plug type blanks they can be removed and tapped to match what you require. The use a blank to block the item no longer needed.
[quote=Alan M;394727]You can make them work. You need to use the existing steel pipework but alter the shape of it after heating the metal to the point where you can bend it to the shape you require. A good engineering shop should be able to do it if you can't. It is easy to do. A good plumber or pipefitter or welder should be able to do it aswell if that is easier. I've done this with a couple of turbos to fit the 850 as the later 16t turbos have the same water outlet/inlet positions on the CHRA.[/quote]
does it make a difference which way round they go?
ie in on the top, out on the bottom
or the other way?
[quote=p fandango;388218]possible, but as yours was green i wouldn't of thought they would of bothered uprating it
diesel, AWD R & police
normal[/quote]
finally got around to fitting my poly bushes on the wishbones
they definatly dont fit
and my wishbones look nothing like your pics
as I have wrecked the original bushes, I now only have 3 wheels on my wagon!!! lol
That's upside down and I think it's a very early arm, don't know if you can retro fit the later style ones (pretty sure you can't fit the R style ones though)
You have the older lower arms which are easier to work with having the removable ball joints. I have just fitted mine which I made from genuine arms after machining them to accept the removable joints.
Are you sure the poly bushes don't fit? Did you remove the steel sleve that is bonded to the bushes on manufacturing? The rubber is made into a steel sleeve when produced then pressed into the arms. Make sure the steel sleeve is removed. Your lower arms are aluminium aren't they? If so you should be able to see if the steel is still there.
[quote=Alan M;395628]Are you sure the poly bushes don't fit? Did you remove the steel sleve that is bonded to the bushes on manufacturing? The rubber is made into a steel sleeve when produced then pressed into the arms. Make sure the steel sleeve is removed. Your lower arms are aluminium aren't they? If so you should be able to see if the steel is still there.[/quote]
I did look at the steel sleeve, but it looks like part of the arm??
do I have to butcher that out aswell??? lol
From the pic it looks like the sleave needs to come out dude (as already mentioned), get a cold chisel and give it a tap inwards(towards the centre of the hole), this should pull it away from the sides of the arm and allow you to just tap it out.
[quote=Tomcat;395654]From the pic it looks like the sleave needs to come out dude (as already mentioned), get a cold chisel and give it a tap inwards(towards the centre of the hole), this should pull it away from the sides of the arm and allow you to just tap it out.[/quote]
ok, i'll try that
job for tomorrow, had enough blood, sweat n tears for 1 day! lol
Don't use a chisel or hammer on the arm. They are not designed for hard impact because of their material design. Use a junior hacksaw or similar to cut through the metal sleeve then fold out the sleeve with a screwdriver or small pry bar. You have removed the rubber from the sleeve to which it is bonded so you just need to now remove the sleeve. Pressing the bushes out is an easier option for the other arm. I use an arbour press but you can use a hydraulic press aswell.
[quote=Alan M;395692]Don't use a chisel or hammer on the arm. They are not designed for hard impact because of their material design. Use a junior hacksaw or similar to cut through the metal sleeve then fold out the sleeve with a screwdriver or small pry bar. You have removed the rubber from the sleeve to which it is bonded so you just need to now remove the sleeve. Pressing the bushes out is an easier option for the other arm. I use an arbour press but you can use a hydraulic press aswell.[/quote]
I did say to 'Tap' it, wasn't recommending going at it with a 12 pound sledge hammer.
[quote=The Flying Moose;395705]Cue pedro with an angle grinding solution...[/quote]
could always cut the ends off, drill & thread the arms & fit rose joints :P lol
(actually i like the sound of that lol)
Looking at the damage I can only hope that the other guys car is a write off. I have watched the video a number of times and still can't understand why he turned, he should have known that there was a car coming up on his offside, no way could anyone miss that. Unless they were looking the other way.:mgshoot:
Nice to see your cracking on mate. Takes a strong man to stand up after being knocked down after an incident like that and it seems you have taken it in your stride.
[quote=johnnytempest][/quote]
looking at that pic it doesn't look like it damaged the shell/chassis, looks like the subframe & body panels took the pain of it
yea looks that way
the chasis bit which holds the shock needs welding, and the shock needs attention
radiator is leaking too
i'm sure we will uncover more as we go
[quote=johnnytempest;399060]the chasis bit which holds the shock needs welding, and the shock needs attention[/quote]
i'd have a good look round the drivers side shock tower as well incase the crash energy was transmitted thru the strutbrace & damaged both side
i think the strut brace would be bent, as it already isnt straight
the damage would suggest the impact was on the front wheel, but in a rearward direction, hence the broken wishbone and the twisted engine
even so, i'm gonna check everything anyway
Good to see your making progress with it so soon after the incident. Must say without the panels on you wouldn't have known it was in an impact from the picture. Fingers crossed you don't uncover any nastys when you rebuild. :)
[quote=Porcine_Aviator;399028]I have watched the video a number of times and still can't understand why he turned, he should have known that there was a car coming up on his offside, no way could anyone miss that. Unless they were looking the other way.:mgshoot:[/quote]
[quote=Civic "driver" (if you can call him that)]he was well behind me and watched everything i did he must have know i was turning left just like everyother car does[/quote]
i didn't bother pointing out it was actually a right turn, but did correct him that it was the first time on the dragstrip so didn't know the Civic was going to cut across. Others pointed out it doesn't matter as the Volvo had right of way. He's gone rather quiet now, except for asking for a new shell
[quote=p fandango;399112]he was well behind me and watched everything i did he must have know i was turning left just like everyother car does[/quote]
If he does go back on the strip I hope someone will give him a few tips on what not to do. The trouble is that he was the cause of an avoidable accident which is costing a lot to put right.
The Civic "Driver" from his comment doesn't know the first thing about terminal volocity or slowing down from a run. If your car had been turned at the speed it was going, there was a good chance it would have rolled, not being there to see it, I can't say, but it was shifting as it went past.
And why, oh why did he think that he could turn right there ?
[quote=Porcine_Aviator;399156]The Civic "Driver" from his comment doesn't know the first thing about terminal volocity or slowing down from a run. If your car had been turned at the speed it was going, there was a good chance it would have rolled, not being there to see it, I can't say, but it was shifting as it went past.[/quote]
he claimed he checked his mirrors twice, he looked just before he was about to turn & the Volvo was just crossing the finish line. As you can see from the video the first turn off is still a fair distance from the finish so no way he could of closed the gap that quick, the Civic would of cleared the lane easily if the Volvo was that far back. Either way he should of waited for the lane to be clear
And why, oh why did he think that he could turn right there ?
thats the first exit turn, the road then leads back to the pits car park. They used to park the fire tender closer to the track so it was easier to see the turn off, but it almost got hit last week after a car hit the wall & span towards it so moved it further away. The second exit which Sam was going for is further down
[quote=p fandango;399165]
thats the first exit turn, the road then leads back to the pits car park. They used to park the fire tender closer to the track so it was easier to see the turn off, but it almost got hit last week after a car hit the wall & span towards it so moved it further away. The second exit which Sam was going for is further down[/quote]
Yep I know that, but if he'd looked back and did not see the car in the lane next to him, and it hadn't passed him, then common sense says that there's a car coming up to my right and I should carry on down to the next exit, just like all the other runners do.
Sam was doing the right thing and not trying to turn to soon, unlike the excuse for a Civic "driver" who should be banned for one or two meets.
Still no matter what is said, we will always have people who don't think and drive around without a care in the world, I'm just very pleased that Sam wasn't injured, even if he was a bit shaken.
[quote=Porcine_Aviator;399171]common sense says that there's a car coming up to my right and I should carry on down to the next exit, just like all the other runners do.[/quote]
he could of slowed or even stopped on track in his lane, they don't start the next race till the track is 100% clear
as said everyone's alright which is the main thing
He's made a simple mistake thats turned into a big mistake.
When your in the outside line you should only turn when you know where the other person is and know what he is doing. If you don't know where he is and what he is doing then slow down and wait untill the other car is along side.
To be honest if that was me racing next to him, then i think a similar thing could have happend as even though thats the exit that i use (i think), he seemed to cut the corner very tight.
Usually the people on that side of the track stay wide and follow it round, because (obviously) theres going to be a car on the inside that will be driving there.
Just watched the videos and caught up to speed on what happened. Really gutted what happened and that stupid Civic driver should of gone to specsavers! Everyone knows you dont cross lanes on a drag strip and the outer lane always lets the car from the inner lane clear the track first!
Glad to see you are rebuilding it though. :)
Totally. When you're in the outside lane, the drill is that you look-look-look until you know what the other car is up to, else you risk getting t-boned.
Also, if you've just wound the car up to 100mph, a lot of people don't want to stand on their brakes and take the first exit. Especially if they are new to the sport.
Does Civic guy drive like that on the road? I hope not.
[quote=jamest5r;399603]Im guessing that's Sam? welcome :)
Go introduce yourself in the new member section :)[/quote]
Yes it is and thanks :)
I didn't really know what to say but I have now
[quote=johnnytempest;399509]vid of my last race at Castle combe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCbD8piAXZY
hmm...cant seem to embed the video??[/quote]
Video is really good JT.
Definately need to get the car boosting correctly and as optimum as possible given the race rules. I take it the car can be remapped etc? Modifications such as ported manifolds and turbos surely cannot be uncovered anyhow. The car nevertheless keeps up and sounds the part.
Secretly I am very jealous, I would love to do a track day but dont think I have the driving skill or balls to be completely honest.
Excellent editing too.
ok, a list of damaged items after Avon:
n/s suspension arm including the mounting bolts
n/s ball joint
n/s front wing
n/s front door and the plastic trim
n/s mirror
n/s front door handle
n/s side skirt
subframe and all bushes
engine mounts
rear bumper
bulkhead bush
the bracket from the bulkhead to the engint top mount
radiator
1 earthing strap
n/s shock ( should get away with a repair)
and the suspension tower (?) needs welding
thats it so far.........:(
[quote=johnnytempest;399879]ok, a list of damaged items after Avon:
n/s suspension arm including the mounting bolts
n/s ball joint
n/s front wing
n/s front door and the plastic trim
n/s mirror
n/s front door handle
n/s side skirt
subframe and all bushes
engine mounts
rear bumper
bulkhead bush
the bracket from the bulkhead to the engint top mount
radiator
and 1 earthing strap.
thats it so far.........:([/quote]
All ive got spare on that list is a wishbone, will check which side it is, was the i/c ok? got a spare one of those if you want.
[quote=johnnytempest;399887]my intercooler needed replacing before avon! lol
i might have that off you if i cant find an uprated 1[/quote]
Your welcome to it FOC mate was trying to give it away with an inlet mani but no-one wanted them lol.
n/s suspension arm including the mounting bolts
n/s ball joint
n/s front wing
n/s front door and the plastic trim
n/s mirror
n/s front door handle [COLOR="Red"]GOT[/COLOR]
n/s side skirt
subframe and all bushes [COLOR="red"]GOT[/COLOR]
engine mounts
rear bumper
bulkhead bush
the bracket from the bulkhead to the engint top mount
radiator
1 earthing strap [COLOR="red"]GOT (sort of, soon make you one)[/COLOR]
n/s shock ( should get away with a repair)
and the suspension tower (?) needs welding
[quote=jamest5r;399884]All ive got spare on that list is a wishbone, will check which side it is, was the i/c ok? got a spare one of those if you want.[/quote]
are the wish bone ( if its the right side?) and intercooler still up for grabs?
looking to do a mamouth drive round the bottom half of England next sunday to pick up/drop off parts, so I could collect.
[quote=johnnytempest;403032]just the 3,
see how we get on before I go for the full 8 degrees!!! lol[/quote]
lol, what size tyres you got & you still got plenty of clearance at the top? I want to go for the 5's but wondering if they'll rub with 225's. If 3 made that much difference then 8 would be mental lol
[quote=johnnytempest;403037]loads room, need bigger spacers and longer bolts now[/quote]
while you'd got the rears stripped it would of been the perfect time to swop to studs & nuts, i've gone for extra long so they can be spacered out well
[quote=jamest5r;403052]If your getting longer bolts any chance i could have 4 of your soon to be spare normal bolts to replace my locking nuts :)[/quote]
I have spares of those anyway thanks to a certain PF,
i'll bring them up on sunday
[quote=The Flying Moose;403061]Is it at he who never moves house?[/quote]
errr?????
as I'm fairly new here, I'll take a wild stab in the dark and say ...... yes?
pmsl!!!
[quote=johnnytempest;403062]errr?????
as I'm fairly new here, I'll take a wild stab in the dark and say ...... yes?
pmsl!!![/quote]
Sorry mate thought you would have had him figured out by now...
Pedro's it is then I guess!
[quote=jamest5r;403074]The pub would be better same as before, hopefully i will be in the t5r all depending on my 1 piece alloy pipe's are ready :)[/quote]
yea, checked out your thread, looking forward to seeing that
[quote=jamest5r;403074]The pub would be better same as before, hopefully i will be in the t5r all depending on my 1 piece alloy pipe's are ready :)[/quote]
You realise a passenger ride will be neccessary James. Non negotiable.
[quote=jamest5r;403134]Your welcome to have a drive in it mate but as i will be running it in for a 1000miles it wont be that exciting.[/quote]
Excellent, I look forward to it. Will just be interesting to see how a "tight" engine drives if you know what I mean.
Ill end up walking away muttering as I realise I actually need some rods and a bigger turbo... ;)
Done a bit more today
but now i'm not sure about 2 things
how to disconnect the steering? do I just need to undo this joint?
and the hydraulic line to the clutch?
help!! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;403413]so i hear! lol[/quote]
better than my phone then, its too quiet. Plus it sends most of my calls straight to the answer machine lol
Easiest way to remove the clutch hydraulic line (leads to the clutch cylinder) is to undo the circlip around the cylinder and simply remove the whole assembly.
Hi all
had a good day today!
lots of shopping 'n' swapping! lol
early start but Alanm was my first point of call.
picked up:
and
please note the free anti-roll bar :smile:
then down to jamest5r:
thankyou mate,goodluck with that stud:B_thumb:
then down south to Pedro's
this and some door handles and an engine mount,
the pleaseure of seeing BT for real, OMG! not much volvo design left! lol
she's something NASA would be proud of!!
she' eats civic's for breakfast!! lol
and a couple of pints in local pub, he's never been in????? lol
as he would say.........WTF???
overall we've covered 410 miles today and according to the tell/tale onboard thingy 59.8 mph average!!
not bad for a van, consindering we went through tescos to fill up and a lap of the cov ring road!! lol
pleasure to meet you, again
look forward to doing it again soon
jt
Welcome :),
Cheers for the stud comment hopefully a expert engineer on the case tomorrow :) but did get the new brake line sorted for a bargin £4.25, bent into shape and fitted.
Lucky you got in Fandango's local pub as he's been banned since he took his pet Goat for a drink.
[quote=johnnytempest;403787]oh and the said "action shot" disussed over that cool pint
[/quote]
was that after taking avoiding action to miss the digger lol. I do like that pic
ps you really need the later rear lights & boot panel
[quote=p fandango;403798]was that after taking avoiding action to miss the digger lol. I do like that pic
ps you really need the later rear lights & boot panel[/quote]
as a weight saving specialist, I can't believe you asking me to add stuff!! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;403837]as a weight saving specialist, I can't believe you asking me to add stuff!! lol[/quote]
the lights are a replacement mate, & the extra panel on the boot will help move the centre of gravity back lol
Hi all,
ok, as the engine will soon be out of my car, now seems like a good time to upgrade some parts.
so i'm asking if anyone has ideas/upgrades with weblinks to suggested parts,please add them to the list.
something like this and if we can copy/paste/edit the list, that would help loads,then I can tick them off as I go.
sub-frame solid bushes www.??????????
silcone hoses www.?????????
thanks very much
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;403410]
help!! lol[/quote]
why wont this ****ing thing come off????
undo the circlip..........check
now slide out the cylinder.............yea right! solid as ...............
any ideas anyone?
It should pull out towards the left... unusual. Perhaps try removing it once the gearbox is free from the engine block as you may have more leaverage, assuming that is that you are removing the box. Failing that give the thing a bloody good smack with a hammer. If you break it and need a spare I have one you can have for free.
[quote=johnnytempest;405900]err the hammer technique has been tried! lol
that spare might be usefull! pmsl[/quote]
No problem, whack it harder then. I cannot believe it wont budge with the circlip removed??? Must have "siezed" in.
[quote=johnnytempest;405903]ok have given it a proper smack and now I definatly need that spare
but its still on! doh!! lol
i'll sort it when i get the engine/box out
cheers[/quote]
Thats fine mate I have a couple. Not sure what to suggest not other than spray it with WD40 or similar and let it soak overnight aswell.
[quote=The Flying Moose;405904]Thats fine mate I have a couple. Not sure what to suggest not other than spray it with WD40 or similar and let it soak overnight aswell.[/quote]
done all that too??????
more shopping!!
another 460 miles yesterday, only 55mph average this time! lol
met up with TFM and picked up some goodies!
3" TB plus inlet,blue injectors inc rail and a short shifter kit!
2 clear side repeaters and an "R" bumper for Sam's new project, but I'm sure he will reveal all very soon.
cheers TFM and also Pedro for the tea,very nice!:)
[quote=johnnytempest;406423]more shopping!!
another 460 miles yesterday, only 55mph average this time! lol
met up with TFM and picked up some goodies!
3" TB plus inlet,blue injectors inc rail and a short shifter kit!
2 clear side repeaters and an "R" bumper for Sam's new project, but I'm sure he will reveal all very soon.
cheers TFM and also Pedro for the tea,very nice!:)[/quote]
you fitted them yet? & nice to meet you & Sam again as always, thanks for dropping the driveshaft down (money will be in the post wednesday Emelyn)
now then Sam, where's your new project thread?
ok, finally got there today.
finally revealed the extent of the damge to the subframe
couple of questions:
when I finally managed to disconnect the steering, this fell out:
any ideas where it came from and what is it???
I put it next to the rule,so you get an idea of the size.
it looks like its been snapped off at the end, not sure this will show that very well.
anyway went back to check the chassis and found some strucual damgage:(
I'll get it checked and keep my fingers crossed!
oh just noticed the manifold has a couple of cracks in it too!
[quote=mitchyboy01;406678]I am intrigued by this thread now Mr Tempest had just made a purchase from me. Looks interesting!![/quote]
oh i wonder what he's bought lol
S60R exhaust manifold on the shopping list as wel now then Johnny ;)
[quote=p fandango;406680]oh i wonder what he's bought lol
S60R exhaust manifold on the shopping list as wel now then Johnny ;)[/quote]
As if you didnt know!!! lol
strange thing is........your comment about the manifold doesnt show up on the thread till i quoted you?? weird!!
pm'd you about the manifold
[quote=johnnytempest;406681]strange thing is........your comment about the manifold doesnt show up on the thread till i quoted you?? weird!![/quote]
that's because i editted it in, must of caught it just as you quote button
[quote=johnnytempest;406683]ahh, trying to catch me out eh? lol[/quote]
of course lol, you have PM back (thought i'd let you know as the notification system on the forum has gone tits up)
[quote=p fandango;407778]another one broken up, ran a 13.9 on the quarter mile[/quote]
the way things are going, urs and mine will be the only raced ones left and sam's the only standard one left
next year Rodney...................lol
[quote=johnnytempest;407781]the way things are going, urs and mine will be the only raced ones left and sam's the only standard one left[/quote]
the way its going & hardly any 850's left in one piece, our cars might be worth more than the £50 that webuyanycar offer lol
phew....just got in after a loooooooooooong day! just unloaded an 850R (well what JT left for me!) into storage....get sum kip, early start tomorrow!
Nice meeting up JT...hope you guys got your nephews bumper sorted!
Qady
[quote=johnnytempest;407826]found this this morning........
http://youtu.be/FND9eIyqioA[/quote]
haven't seen that vid before, but have seen the car. Claims to be built from an ex-BTCC car, yet the cage is completely different & no TWR plate (wonder if he got it from ebay lol)
where the hell did u find that???? lol
it might be a chassis but it aint the real deal
5 stud wheels and the cage is not right either
does look good though!!
[quote=johnnytempest;407850]where the hell did u find that???? lol[/quote]
theirs a big clue in the top left corner of the pic lol
[quote]it might be a chassis but it aint the real deal
5 stud wheels and the cage is not right either
does look good though!![/quote]
i think theirs as much TWR stuff on your car as he's got lol, i don't think any of it has ever been in a TWR factory
[quote=p fandango;407786]the way its going & hardly any 850's left in one piece, our cars might be worth more than the £50 that webuyanycar offer lol[/quote]
I'm not quite sure your car will ever be in "one peice" Pedro.. Lol
Rear spoiler will look the nuts fitted JT, make sure you do the tip of the spoiler in a gloss black finish..
[quote=AndysR;407860]Rear spoiler will look the nuts fitted JT, make sure you do the tip of the spoiler in a gloss black finish..[/quote]
the spoiler is not for me! :(
well not much happening with the car looking like this:
so I decided ( with a kick from Pedro! lol ) to start putting some of the bits back together.
So with a very kind donation of 2 wishbones from T5 Stealth (thanks mate), I put the polybushes on the those today.
I was hoping my new top mounts and AP's would have been here this week, but no joy.
I wanted to get the coilover back together and see how much adjustment the top mounts have, but maybe next week.........
JT
wow sounds like you had a busy, oh hang on i lied lol
at least its another thing off the list, just pull your finger out tomorrow or your not watching the F1 lol
ok, having been instructed again!! lol
did a bit of weight saving and fitting today
the door doesnt fit, nor does the wing!!!:(
the door hinges are bent out of position, so should be an easy fix with a big hammer,
but the wing needs pulling down at the front end,suggesting that front chassis leg has been bent downwards and possibly inwards too..
need to find somewhere with a jig, me thinks.
if anyone wants anything out of the 3rd pic, just shout,if not, it will go in the bin.
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;409393][/quote]
does Sam know you've borrowed his panels? lol
fingers crossed a bit of pulling & hammering with the inner wing will sort it out
[quote=johnnytempest;409393]
if anyone wants anything out of the 3rd pic, just shout,if not, it will go in the bin.
JT[/quote]
Well if your bining them then ill take the wratchet and pair of plyers... :hidesbehi
[quote=johnnytempest;409400]I was exspecting that from Pedro!! lol
your more than welcome to the ratchet, it sucks and will be going in the bin!!! lol[/quote]
Haha, finally beat the master of posting at his own game... all mine Duane all mine!
It is coming along nicely though.
Whats the plans re the colour of the panels? Will it be a panel re-spray, whole car re-spray or a vinyl wrap over the panels?
I'm just gonna get the panels repainted in white
(ford transit white!!!!)
and I have a new set of vinyls on the way
will replace both sides as the driver went on a bit wonky after a saturday lunch in the pub!!:)
[quote=The Flying Moose;409398]Well if your bining them then ill take the wratchet and pair of plyers... :hidesbehi[/quote]
thats what i was about to say
Oh Dear God! Remember that the separate area towards the back of the R Spoiler is meant to be Black ;)
Oh and you missed a bit of your eye cover plastic bit things (excuse vague term no idea what they are called).
[quote=The Flying Moose;410748]Oh Dear God! Remember that the separate area towards the back of the R Spoiler is meant to be Black ;)
Oh and you missed a bit of your eye cover plastic bit things (excuse vague term no idea what they are called).[/quote]
LOL
calm down dear, its only the undercoat!!!!
Ok,some good news for a change
had someone look over the car this evening and all seems well!!
with the use of a tape measure, it would appear everything is where it should be. so, the panels have been taken away for spraying and I can get on with putting it back together.
JT
[quote=Pault5estate;411991]Thats good news, which, I'm guessing is more than can be said about the car that hit you?[/quote]
well asyou may or may not be aware, I wasn't in the car and I believe the other vehicle involved was a total right off! :)
just shows you how strong and safe these speedy sweedes are! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;411997]I believe the other vehicle involved was a total right off! :)
just shows you how strong and safe these speedy sweeds are! lol[/quote]
yeh the Civic was righten off & engine put into another shell
[quote=martybelfastt5;412096]do the rear spoiler white with blue lip,[/quote]
the spoilers not his, he's not allowed it in his championship (not that something that trivial has stopped him lol)
[quote=johnnytempest;412100]if another 1 comes up, i'll put 1 on and see if I can get away with it!! :)
speaking of which, any chance TC??? lol[/quote]
Any chance of what?...
Glad to hear the car is all straight where it counts, even better news to hear the rice rocket is in hell now!
R spoiler tip really should be a light grey... but that's not to say it would look in black lol
[quote=AndysR;412209]Glad to hear the car is all straight where it counts, even better news to hear the rice rocket is in hell now!
R spoiler tip really should be a light grey... but that's not to say it would look in black lol[/quote]
Is yours Grey Andy?..
[quote=Tomcat;412232]Is yours Grey Andy?..[/quote]
The rear spoiler tip? Yes the colour is an identical match to the grey around the rear lights on a saloon
Well it was originally anyway ;)
A small add on today!
The original wheel position was here:
then I added camber plates:
now to bring the wheel back towards the arch, some 30mm spacers!!
some pics from below, before:
and after:
I like the look, but to see if its a gain or not........thats gonna be a while yet:)
[quote=JT's Mechanic;413594]How well does it all line up?[/quote]
Not too bad, nothing a big hammer couldn't sort out!
[quote=Jim S70R;413596]Looks like it's coming together nicely[/quote]
cheers Jim,
its getting there
[quote=johnnytempest;413598]Not too bad, nothing a big hammer couldn't sort out![/quote]
that ain't a big hammer ya WIMP lol, & glad to see a good home for the ugly wheels (propping the front of the car up lol)
ps nice to see it going back together again. I haven't got any more wheel bolts, but what about going to studs & nuts?
[quote=JT's Mechanic;413663]Do they do 'where's wally' competitions? Because I think you'd be in with a shot pedro lol[/quote]
i have to be observant for my job mate ;)
[quote=jamest5r;413636]Getting there nicley :)
Anything you need off my mrs 850 before i scrap it?[/quote]
I believe the only things I'm short of are:
bulkhead polybush( i'll buy a new one)
front engine mount
lambda sensor
and I need to replace the pipe that goes to the clutch slave cylinder
got any of those left??
[quote=p fandango;413655]
ps nice to see it going back together again. I haven't got any more wheel bolts, but what about going to studs & nuts?[/quote]
The spacers make it studs and nuts
but the chrome bolts are too big to fit behind the spacer
[quote=johnnytempest;413673]The spacers make it studs and nuts
but the chrome bolts are too big to fit behind the spacer[/quote]
hmm, if only there was a device that could cut them down
[quote=Kerry_T-5R;414319]Excellent project - just read every page!
Cheers
Kerry[/quote]
cheers mate
not all going to plan, but nevermind
did some more bits today:
removed the wonky 850 decal from the driverside
then all the decals over the damaged rear arch
and then cleaned up the rear bumper
from this:
to this:
quite pleased with the bumper,I think I can get away without respaying that.:)
[quote=The Flying Moose;414592]Nice to see its getting back in shape JT, do you think it will be ready for next years racing season?[/quote]
I would love to get some testing in over winter,
with so many changes and upgrades on the car,she's gonna be a new animal!
So..........yes! I will be racing next year!
fingers crossed! :)
[quote=johnnytempest;414657]with so many changes and upgrades on the car,she's gonna be a new animal![/quote]
did you get a price for the other engine bits ;)
shame about the rear arch, but the rest has cleaned up well
[quote=p fandango;414666]did you get a price for the other engine bits ;)
shame about the rear arch, but the rest has cleaned up well[/quote]
I havent asked for a price yet as I'm still waiting for the top mounts and AP's due anytime, so saving any funds I have for those.
we think the arch can be beaten out and filled a bit, considering it will get covered in vinyl.so yea, pleased with that:)
[quote=johnnytempest;414668]I havent asked for a price yet as I'm still waiting for the top mounts and AP's due anytime, so saving any funds I have for those.
we think the arch can be beaten out and filled a bit, considering it will get covered in vinyl.so yea, pleased with that:)[/quote]
i thought your brakes & mounts were due almost a month ago now
i'm good with filler lol
[quote=p fandango;414672]i thought your brakes & mounts were due almost a month ago now
i'm good with filler lol[/quote]
Your not wrong! mounts and AP's promised by 5th sept!
here we are in October????????
as for the filler,go for it you cant make it any worse!!! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;414674]Your not wrong! mounts and AP's promised by 5th sept!
here we are in October????????[/quote]
i wish they'd hurry up, you can order me a set of the mounts once i see how good yours are lol
as for the filler,go for it you cant make it any worse!!! lol
i've got the first 2 weeks off in November, i'm away the first week but might have to come & see you the second ;)
[quote=p fandango;414680]i wish they'd hurry up, you can order me a set of the mounts once i see how good yours are lol
i've got the first 2 weeks off in November, i'm away the first week but might have to come & see you the second ;)[/quote]
oh thats nice!! speaking of which, i still haven't paid for the camber plates!
i have tried, but they wont reply to the emails again!! lol
I'm sure we can do something! i'll get the beers in, oops! sorry, i meant the filler!! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;414703]please tell me they are worth the wait??[/quote]
Lol, is that a joke! It's night and day and certainly at the top of my wish list.
[quote=AndysR;414706]Lol, is that a joke! It's night and day and certainly at the top of my wish list.[/quote]
I just wish they would turn up!! :lol:
If i dont like them, i'll give you a call!
maybe do a swap?? lol
[quote=johnnytempest;414703]please tell me they are worth the wait??[/quote]
Dunno yet, not got them fitted!
You do know they don't fit under certain Volvo rims?
[quote=Pault5estate;414734]Dunno yet, not got them fitted!
You do know they don't fit under certain Volvo rims?[/quote]
any chance of a pic of what I am getting then?? lol
I was told they will fit under my 17" Titans????
I don't have any pictures to hand, I've only looked at them once myself, they are up the garage.
I'm not sure about which rims fit, I did read it some where, but, I can't remember where!
I'm using TD pro-race 1.2 on mine, well, I will be :P
I have a pdf file for the caliper clearance, if that helps?
I cant remember the kit number i'm getting off the top of my head??
i found the same pdf file, although at a first glance looed more like the london underground map!! lol
as long as they fit, and i can stop as quick as hitting a tree, i'll be happy!! :)
I can't remember which discs I have got! I think they are grooved, I might go check next time I'm up the garage!
Pads, mine are more road based..... I think!
[quote=johnnytempest;414759] as long as they fit, and i can stop as quick as hitting a tree, i'll be happy!! :)[/quote]
You can check both of those things off then lol. The AP kit was designed to fit under Titans when it was originally produced so you will be fine with fitment. They also fit behind the 17" Volans found on the 850R AFAIK..
Having been in a few cars with ap's (including jc viggens t-5r around the nurburgring on several occasions) you wont be disappointed with the stopping power!.
Kerry
so with the engine upgrades, suspension that works & not just solid, plus going from factory 302's to racing AP's we can expect to see you on the podium next year :)
[quote=Kerry_T-5R;414792]You can check both of those things off then lol. The AP kit was designed to fit under Titans when it was originally produced so you will be fine with fitment. They also fit behind the 17" Volans found on the 850R AFAIK..
Having been in a few cars with ap's (including jc viggens t-5r around the nurburgring on several occasions) you wont be disappointed with the stopping power!.
Kerry[/quote]
Cool, I'm looking forward to getting them on the car now! Lol
I was told by the supplier, it was the police who got AP to make them for their cars, because they couldn't slow down in a chase.
How true that is, I dont know?????
[quote=p fandango;414794]so with the engine upgrades, suspension that works & not just solid, plus going from factory 302's to racing AP's we can expect to see you on the podium next year :)[/quote]
Dont forget the 19t,blues,3'' throttle body,short shift kit and if I can find a groupA airfilter, yea I hope to be a lot closer to the front. The 1st two places are pretty much taken, so it leaves the rest of us to fight for 3rd. :)
[quote=johnnytempest;414796]Cool, I'm looking forward to getting them on the car now! Lol
I was told by the supplier, it was the police who got AP to make them for their cars, because they couldn't slow down in a chase.
How true that is, I dont know?????[/quote]
1/2 true as the police did complain about the brakes initially. The upgrade volvo produced for the police was the 302 mm brakes that you have fitted to yours, along with a police compound pad - that is why the 302mm brakes exist on some later police 850's. Volvo had to slightly change the design of the columba 16" wheel to have more clearance over the calipers (re-designed wheel was called a "perfo") because the 302 mm's wouldnt fit behind the columba wheel. That is why the police 850's have the 16" 5 spoke perfo's as found on the later S/V70's.
The AP's are a pure performance BBK developed by AP and nothing to do with Volvo AFAIK - they only fit behind 17" wheels and wouldnt fit behind the police 16" perfo.
IMO you have gone for one of the best BBK's for the 850 and I will be getting a set for mine in the not too distant future!
[quote=Kerry_T-5R;414813]
IMO you have gone for one of the best BBK's for the 850 and I will be getting a set for mine in the not too distant future![/quote]
Cheers,I was told It cant get any better than AP's and as these cars are heavy(mine is 1275Kg,even after stripping it out), braking is an area I need to maximise, so made my choice.
Thanks for the info.
Looking forward to getting back out on track.
[quote=johnnytempest;414822]Cheers,I was told It cant get any better than AP's and as these cars are heavy(mine is 1275Kg,even after stripping it out), braking is an area I need to maximise, so made my choice.
Thanks for the info.
Looking forward to getting back out on track.[/quote]
JC's car was also stripped out with coilovers so you must have a similar set up and his was just perfect in the braking department. A few others have stop tech and they are supposed to be just as good but my choice would be the ap's as well!
Sounds good - look forward to seeing your updates!
[quote=johnnytempest;414796]Cool, I'm looking forward to getting them on the car now! Lol
I was told by the supplier, it was the police who got AP to make them for their cars, because they couldn't slow down in a chase.
How true that is, I dont know?????[/quote]
Police got 302's, i did see a marked 855 cop car that had a roll cage & touring car spec bucket seats so wouldn't be surprised if that had got AP's on it
[quote=johnnytempest;414797]Dont forget the 19t,blues,3'' throttle body,short shift kit and if I can find a groupA airfilter, yea I hope to be a lot closer to the front. The 1st two places are pretty much taken, so it leaves the rest of us to fight for 3rd. :)[/quote]
even i didn't know about the filter lol, what make you got?
[quote=p fandango;414864]even i didn't know about the filter lol, what make you got?[/quote]
at the mo, a K&N induction kit,
but want a GROUP A filter
much bigger, more air, blah blah blah lol
[quote=johnnytempest;414903]at the mo, a K&N induction kit,
but want a GROUP A filter
much bigger, more air, blah blah blah lol[/quote]
just bin it, you don't need a filter anyway lol
[quote=johnnytempest;414903]at the mo, a K&N induction kit,
but want a GROUP A filter
much bigger, more air, blah blah blah lol[/quote]
Dibs on the K&N :D
[quote=johnnytempest;414921]you need to find a group A then!! :)[/quote]
he won't want your K&N then, go buy one Sam & don't tell him where you got it from ;) lol
on a serious note........
a stupid question(probrably),
if I want to remove all 4 calipers from the car, can I drain the fluid and replace it later?
It was suggested to me not to let it run dry, but if its bled properly, surely I can just drain it all out and start again?????
[quote=johnnytempest;414929]if I want to remove all 4 calipers from the car, can I drain the fluid and replace it later?
It was suggested to me not to let it run dry, but if its bled properly, surely I can just drain it all out and start again?????[/quote]
can't see why not, i assume they just didn't want the hassle of bleeding everything
& Sam, get on the look-out for a Group A filter for Johnny ;)
[quote=JT's Mechanic;414936]I've been looking, does anyone know the size of hose that runs from the air filter to the turbo?[/quote]
if we're gonna "go silicone", surely it can be anysize, we'll get the size we need????
just for the sake of it and to keep my spirits up,
I put some more bits on the car today:)
then I started to investigate why the seat seemed to be down on 1 side
and found this:
a crease in the tunnel behind the handbrake:(
figuring the cage runs above that area,fingers crossed its not a problem.
I still think she gonna need a visit to a jig though........ho hum
I'm off to the fridge for multiple lagers! lol
i think the seat fix is easy, keep off the pies & a bit of exercise won't hurt ;)
i'm sure it'll be alright, probably just needs a bit of strengthening in the floor pan
Just finished reading this thread from the start. I was referred here from T5D5 where I was asking for info on developing a T5 for racing!
Thought I was being clever doing something nobody else had done! Oh well, found this thread really interesting and loads of useful info on what im currently doing. The car is in the strip down and cage fabrication stage at the moment. I can see it taking a good year to 18 months to finish!
I am looking to enter the Clasisc Sports Car Club future classics series, but the regs appear to be roughly the same as Project 8, so development will probably be pretty close to your car.
I will start a thread shortly.
[quote=Rydell;415582]Just finished reading this thread from the start. I was referred here from T5D5 where I was asking for info on developing a T5 for racing!
Thought I was being clever doing something nobody else had done! Oh well, found this thread really interesting and loads of useful info on what im currently doing. The car is in the strip down and cage fabrication stage at the moment. I can see it taking a good year to 18 months to finish!
I am looking to enter the Clasisc Sports Car Club future classics series, but the regs appear to be roughly the same as Project 8, so development will probably be pretty close to your car.
I will start a thread shortly.[/quote]
Glad to see you took my advice :), ohh and welcome over
[quote=Rydell;415582]Just finished reading this thread from the start. I was referred here from T5D5 where I was asking for info on developing a T5 for racing!
Thought I was being clever doing something nobody else had done! Oh well, found this thread really interesting and loads of useful info on what im currently doing. The car is in the strip down and cage fabrication stage at the moment. I can see it taking a good year to 18 months to finish!
I am looking to enter the Clasisc Sports Car Club future classics series, but the regs appear to be roughly the same as Project 8, so development will probably be pretty close to your car.
I will start a thread shortly.[/quote]
Welome,
"doing something nobody else had done!" thats sounds farmiliar?? lol
that would be cool to see 2 out there, You building an 854 or 855?
once the cage is in,putting it back together doesn't really take that long,depending on spec of course.
I'll look forward to reading your thread.
JT
854!
The spec will include:
KW Suspension
Uprated brakes (not sure which way to go yet)
TD Pro 1.2 17" with suitable tyres
Gripper diff
Looking for around 270 - 300bhp
Cage, seat etc
Full 1995 BTCC livery!
dejavou or what
Keep up the good work.
[quote=Rydell;415596]854!
The spec will include:
KW Suspension
Uprated brakes (not sure which way to go yet)
TD Pro 1.2 17" with suitable tyres
Gripper diff
Looking for around 270 - 300bhp
Cage, seat etc
Full 1995 BTCC livery!
dejavou or what
Keep up the good work.[/quote]
all sounds good to me!! lol
Chuck in turbo tuner and you'll get around 280bhp,even as standard!
have you raced before?
And mines a 95 in bits hoping one day to look something like the 95!:)
Has your race season ended now then JT?
Would be interested to know if you plan any winter testing.
[quote=johnnytempest;415602]all sounds good to me!! lol
Chuck in turbo tuner and you'll get around 280bhp,even as standard!
have you raced before?[/quote]
Not circuit racing as such, but used to sprint a Clio 172 Cup.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_iSKcHUYyA&feature=related[/ame]
If you start at 2:50 it gives you an idea of what sprinting the Clio was like!
[quote=Rydell;415715]And mines a 95 in bits hoping one day to look something like the 95!:)
Has your race season ended now then JT?
Would be interested to know if you plan any winter testing.[/quote]
This year is over for me, only 1 more meeting at Brands on the 12th Nov.
The car wont be ready for that (although I will be there!), but as soon as its back in piece,I'll be testing, dont worry about that! lol
Good Vids,shame about the roll, but thats motorsport!
Your not really a stanger to a race car then,this was my first year,only got my licence the day before my first race! lol
I had better pull my finger out or you'll be off in the distance!:)
[quote=The Flying Moose;415734]Nearly there mate!
Question... do you need door cards for MOT? Is yours still MOT'd?[/quote]
allo mate!
No idea??????
Mine is sorn,so no need for the MOT
why do u ask?
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;415736]allo mate!
No idea??????
Mine is sorn,so no need for the MOT
why do u ask?
JT[/quote]
Cheers
Just wondering... might have a few plans up my sleeve thats all.
Will be revealed at a later stage one decisions made and work carried out ;)
[quote=The Flying Moose;415743]Cheers
Just wondering... might have a few plans up my sleeve thats all.
Will be revealed at a later stage one decisions made and work carried out ;)[/quote]
oh no! you cant leave it like that!
spill the beans!!!!!:biggrin:
[quote=The Flying Moose;415743]Cheers
Just wondering... might have a few plans up my sleeve thats all.
Will be revealed at a later stage one decisions made and work carried out ;)[/quote]
Dont strip the s70 mate i can guess what your thinking lol, do a 855 much better, got the Mrs old one here you can have for scrap value :)
Can't think of any reason why it would fail for having no door cards, unless the tester thought that the sharp edges would cause a problem, but that only normally on the outside.
[quote=johnnytempest;415758]what's he up to James???[/quote]
No idea mate just fishing lol, trying to think like someone in there 20's(which was looong ago for me lol) :)
[quote=jamest5r;415761]No idea mate just fishing lol, trying to think like someone in there 20's(which was looong ago for me lol) :)[/quote]
me too, but I like to think i'm still there!! :uglyhamme
[quote=jamest5r;415744]Sorry for the late reply JT, i gave The Moose a couple of spare lamba's i had he might still have one to donate to you :)[/quote]
I do indeed still have them James, and of course as they were free to me they would be to you JT if required.
Let me know.
[quote=johnnytempest;415745]oh no! you cant leave it like that!
spill the beans!!!!!:biggrin:[/quote]
All will be revealed in due course!
[quote=jamest5r;415746]Dont strip the s70 mate i can guess what your thinking lol, do a 855 much better, got the Mrs old one here you can have for scrap value :)[/quote]
James, just wait and see. I may have spoke to you about my plans... I forget in ye olde age ;)
Nevertheless, you are all welcome to enjoy the outcome.
[quote=jamest5r;415761]No idea mate just fishing lol, trying to think like someone in there 20's(which was looong ago for me lol) :)[/quote]
Ok James, whatever, your still young my dear friend! Its not how old you are but how old you feel and how you use the experience you have gained.
As previously mensioned there is a plan in the pipework.
[quote=The Flying Moose;415827]I do indeed still have them James, and of course as they were free to me they would be to you JT if required.
Let me know.
[/quote]
Yes please I'll have one of those!
:)
What's with the editing Mr Moose?? woke up and read what you put lol told you before drinking and internet are a dangerous combo strange things start turning up 48hrs later etc :)
[quote=jamest5r;415915]What's with the editing Mr Moose?? woke up and read what you put lol told you before drinking and internet are a dangerous combo strange things start turning up 48hrs later etc :)[/quote]
I agree. Plus, you can end up talking utter crap :wink:
[quote=jamest5r;415915]What's with the editing Mr Moose?? woke up and read what you put lol told you before drinking and internet are a dangerous combo strange things start turning up 48hrs later etc :)[/quote]
Damn, caught out!!!
For whatever reason I logged on after drinking alot after wining a pub quiz, seems I spiel utter nonsense when I drink ;)
I had some tyres swapped around today
revealing the damage to the front left
good news though, the rear left is still round,so only needs a bit of a refurb:)
[quote=Jim S70R;416747]Might be worth taking it to a metal scrap yard might get Afew quid for it??[/quote]
yea was gonna take it with the subframe,door and wing too.
not sure they are worth much,but it all adds up:)
Really chuffed you got on the brands hatch homepage, proves the effort spent originally on the cars appearance was well worth it.
Shame about the sub-frame, im sure a bit of jiggering will see it fit right.
[quote=johnnytempest;418524]not all good news though:(
tried to fit the subframe,kindly donated by Pedro, just to see if things would line up???
oh dear........[/quote]
i'll bring Mr Angle Grinder & my pop-rivet gun, we'll soon get that subframe to fit lol
[quote=p fandango;418715]i'll bring Mr Angle Grinder & my pop-rivet gun, we'll soon get that subframe to fit lol[/quote]
Nooooooooooooooo!
you can keep Mr Grinder at home, nothing more to cut off my car! honest!
lol
[quote=johnnytempest;418769]Nooooooooooooooo!
you can keep Mr Grinder at home, nothing more to cut off my car! honest![/quote]
are you having a laugh, nothing more to cut. Someone's gone & welded scaffolding bar inside it man, do you know how heavy that is? lol
managed to get the car rolling today!
could only push it so far though! lol
and the not so good.....
not sure if the camera shows this very clearly,but the O/S front looks ok, but the N/S front looks like its about 75mm to far in???
That is the side that took the main impact.
anyhow, the car is now ready to be taken away and put on a jig. So everything crossed they can straighten it all out.
[quote=p fandango;418506]atleast we can still have a laugh & take the piss out of the Bimmer boys ;)[/quote]
I have a bimmer lol nothing wrong with them
if i were you mate i'd leave all the stripping to Sam, because it seems everything you take off is screwed :redface:
looking on the brightside, those Bimmers aren't going to know what hit them (no pun intended) once all the bits are fixed & the new mods in place
[quote=p fandango;423028]if i were you mate i'd leave all the stripping to Sam, because it seems everything you take off is screwed :redface:
looking on the brightside, those Bimmers aren't going to know what hit them (no pun intended) once all the bits are fixed & the new mods in place[/quote]
trying to work out when that happened, maybe my Oulton Park excursion did it?
you did say it didnt sound right afterwards?? lol
yea cant wait to get amongst the front half of the field,nearly did at Oulton too, till I binned it. P12 would have been a great result!!:)
[quote=johnnytempest;423034]trying to work out when that happened, maybe my Oulton Park excusion did it?
you did say it didnt sound right afterwards?? lol[/quote]
quite possible, was it the lower section of the intercooler that was trying to depart? on another note, it was Oulton park we went to then lol
yea cant wait to get amongst the front half of the field,nearly did at Oulton too, till I binned it. P12 would have been a great result!!:)
[quote=p fandango;423040]quite possible, was it the lower section of the intercooler that was trying to depart? on another note, it was Oulton park we went to then lol
when is the first race of the new season[/quote]
no, thats the top??????????
yes it was Oulton!
you had such a good day you forgot where you went???? lol
as for next year..........not a scooby!
[quote=johnnytempest;423048]no, thats the top??????????[/quote]
quite a few have gone because of bad crimping or the plastic ends cracking, wouldn't say it was anything really to do with the trip thru the kitty litter then
[quote]yes it was Oulton!
you had such a good day you forgot where you went???? lol[/quote]
nope, just been to sleep since then lol
[quote=p fandango;423052]quite a few have gone because of bad crimping or the plastic ends cracking, wouldn't say it was anything really to do with the trip thru the kitty litter then
nope, just been to sleep since then lol
waste of time ;) lol[/quote]
speaking of which, hows those rear springs of yours?? lol
[quote=johnnytempest;423053]speaking of which, hows those rear springs of yours?? lol[/quote]
i could answer that, but i'm sure the swear filter would kick-in (not impressed lets put it that way lol). Now the fronts i'm happy with :)
[quote=johnnytempest;423144]yes mate,this was the car at the weekend.
did you have something in mind?
[/quote]
Good to see you found your boost leak, what you going to regarding replacing it, another standard one or a up rated one? good to see the car out in the day light again.
[quote=Jim S70R;423220]Good to see you found your boost leak, what you going to regarding replacing it, another standard one or a up rated one? good to see the car out in the day light again.[/quote]
Jamest5r kindly donated a standard replacement for me. I will look into and up rated 1 at a later date, unless you have 1 for sale ?
Yea was good to see it back on all 4 wheels, gave me a big shove to crack on and get it finished.
[quote=johnnytempest;423762]Jamest5r kindly donated a standard replacement for me. I will look into and up rated 1 at a later date, unless you have 1 for sale ?
Yea was good to see it back on all 4 wheels, gave me a big shove to crack on and get it finished.[/quote]
I wish I did, but if i did it would be in use on mine lol.
[quote=johnnytempest;423830]Just had the call, the cars being collected later today to go on the jig.
Fingers crossed! :worried::worried:[/quote]
did they give any indication how long before they actually get it on the jig? fingers crossed, i think it'll be alright just the leg to straighten a bit
[quote=johnnytempest;423882]over the next couple of days..................
but they didnt sound over busy,hence collection today.
so i'll just have to wait and see
[/quote]
Hope it all goes to plan...
[quote=p fandango;423922]i've said it before & i'll say it again, those rear lights look s**t ;)[/quote]
Perhaps after the all clear, you could change to a later rear end??
[quote=p fandango;423922]i've said it before & i'll say it again, those rear lights look s**t ;)[/quote]
I couldnt get to the back of the car to change them!!
and whats the point if its twisted???
if it comes back straight,I'll change them,just for you! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;423931]I couldnt get to the back of the car to change them!!
and whats the point if its twisted???
if it comes back straight,I'll change them,just for you! lol[/quote]
it'll be fine, & are you using that grill ;) lol
[quote=johnnytempest;423943]it was brought as a spare
maybe something to modify.
do you need 1?[/quote]
i'm stuck with what to do with the grill. I've got a mesh one but not sure what i fancy. Standard one's are too heavy, just messing but thanks
[quote=p fandango;423946]i'm stuck with what to do with the grill. I've got a mesh one but not sure what i fancy. Standard one's are too heavy, just messing but thanks[/quote]
have a chat with sam, he might do you a swap???
[quote=johnnytempest;423949]have a chat with sam, he might do you a swap???[/quote]
its a bit old & showing its age now (the grill) so probably drill more holes in it or something lol
Hopefully it will only need a little tug to the corner :)
You got a race around the midland's next year(Donningon?) would'nt mind coming to have a butcher's
[quote=jamest5r;423964]Hopefully it will only need a little tug to the corner :)
You got a race around the midland's next year(Donningon?) would'nt mind coming to have a butcher's[/quote]
cheers mate,lets hope so...
next years calendar hasnt been released yet, but if this years is anything to go by, it will continually change throughout the year anyway.
this year should have had Spa,Donington and another round at Brands....all cancelled! lol
I guess things change.....
I will put a 2012 calendar asap
[quote=jamest5r;424018]Would do Donny only 40mins up the road from me, come up the night before and have a few beer's might help the racing :)[/quote]
not sure about that, but it doesn't usually stop me!! lol
[quote=LiamT4;424026]Hopefully i'll be coming to a few of your races next year.[/quote]
be good to see you again, maybe you could come along in BT?? lol
[quote=Pault5estate;424028]Donny is about 1.5hrs away from me, I might pop along too.[/quote]
I think a visit to Oulton Park is on the cards, I thought that was a bit closer for you, but dont let that stop you! lol
Thanks again for all the support!
JT
[quote=LiamT4;424043]Are we allowed to come in the pits on the day?
As long as BTs been tested, then i wouldn't mind - as long as its not windy or it could blow away! lol[/quote]
yea, pits are usually open.
and there I was thinking the chutes on the back of drag cars are there to slow them down..........
now I realise they are there to help them land when the wind gets up!!:B_thumb:
Had a pic sent to me today..........
having never see a jig,that looks like a complicated bit of kit!
as suspected the front left chassis leg is down but the whole leg has also gone backwards.
they are hoping they can pull it out..............
[quote=jamest5r;424338]Looking good in a wrong sort of way lol, when they going to pull it?[/quote]
I haven't spoken to them since,but i assume as its taking up space in the workshop it wont be long
ok........................
phone call just came in...........
they have pulled it, but......
its not 100%. to get it 100% would require a new chassis leg or a new chassis.
we are talking 3mm's difference!
so we are good to go, it wont pass an insurance inspection(would need to be 2mm), but I dont care about that! lol
good news me thinks!!
:):):):):)
[quote=johnnytempest;424418]who looks at the back end at a race????? lol
[/quote]
Everyone when your in front ;)
Forgot to say you can really see the camber on your rear wheels now looking at the shot of it on the back of the recovery lorry earlier...
[quote=AndysR;424420]Forgot to say you can really see the camber on your rear wheels now looking at the shot of it on the back of the recovery lorry earlier...[/quote]
yea its proper camber angle!!
looks like they are gonna fall off!! lol
can see it here after it had been loaded up yesterday
[quote=johnnytempest;424458]yea its proper camber angle!!
looks like they are gonna fall off!! lol
can see it here after it had been loaded up yesterday
[/quote]
and what angle did you opt for in the end?
Will look miles better with the R spoiler and later lights ;)
[quote=AndysR;424463]and what angle did you opt for in the end?
Will look miles better with the R spoiler and later lights ;)[/quote]
those are 3 degree plates!
pedro wants 5 i dont see why he doesn't put both together and get 8!! lol
the R spoiler is for sams car, i'll have to fight him for it!! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;424466]those are 3 degree plates!
pedro wants 5 i dont see why he doesn't put both together and get 8!! lol
the R spoiler is for sams car, i'll have to fight him for it!! lol[/quote]
3 degrees! OMG that's made one hell of a difference, are you sure they were boxed correctly! lol
Fight fight fight fight... :)
[quote=johnnytempest;424466]those are 3 degree plates!
pedro wants 5 i dont see why he doesn't put both together and get 8!! lol
the R spoiler is for sams car, i'll have to fight him for it!! lol[/quote]
Do you have any problems with it rubbering on the arches?? I've got a website that do the 3 and 5 degree plates and I'm very tempted to go for 3 myself. Did you notice a difference?? Sorry for all the questions...
[quote=AndysR;424468]3 degrees! OMG that's made one hell of a difference, are you sure they were boxed correctly! lol
Fight fight fight fight... :)[/quote]
PMSL!!!!
[quote=Jim S70R;424469]Do you have any problems with it rubbering on the arches?? I've got a website that do the 3 and 5 degree plates and I'm very tempted to go for 3 myself. Did you notice a difference?? Sorry for all the questions...[/quote]
I have no idea!! lol
I haven't run the car on them yet
not sure they would help tyre wear on a road car though???????
[quote=johnnytempest;424473]PMSL!!!!
I have no idea!! lol
I haven't run the car on them yet
not sure they would help tyre wear on a road car though???????[/quote]
Oh yeh my bad lol, remember you've only fitted them recently.....it's been a busy week for me at work lol, not bothered about tyre wear. However I'm really keen to get my old bus to handle well (some people think ive brought the wrong car for handling but i know they aint scared of a few tight bends once done and setup correctly) I'll be keen to know what they are like once she hanging around a track again :)
[quote=Jim S70R;424483]Oh yeh my bad lol, remember you've only fitted them recently.....it's been a busy week for me at work lol, not bothered about tyre wear. However I'm really keen to get my old bus to handle well (some people think ive brought the wrong car for handling but i know they aint scared of a few tight bends once done and setup correctly) I'll be keen to know what they are like once she hanging around a track again :)[/quote]
no probs. lol
we'll find out how good they are soon enough....:)
will be interesting to check the camber though, does seem a bit over 3!!?? lol
[quote=johnnytempest;424496]no probs. lol
we'll find out how good they are soon enough....:)
will be interesting to check the camber though, does seem a bit over 3!!?? lol[/quote]
I reckon that's alot more than 3 from the pics lol.
[quote=p fandango;424813]wow they did a good job of that, but where's your camber gone lol[/quote]
I assume (because of the yellow ramps behind the car) its still on the jig,up in the air. that tyre should be tucked nicely under the arch.
[quote=Pault5estate;424832]Pleased that its coming back into shape :)[/quote]
thanks mate, shame we didn't get those photos of the 2 together before the crash, now she will have battle scars!!!
lol
still be good to see them side by side though
this one was good, but i have a feeling yours might be better:)
[quote=johnnytempest;424842]thanks mate, shame we didn't get those photos of the 2 together before the crash, now she will have battle scars!!!
lol
still be good to see them side by side though
this one was good, but i have a feeling yours might be better:)
[/quote]
is there a roll cage in that 850? if so where was it made or bought from?
[quote=johnnytempest;424842]thanks mate, shame we didn't get those photos of the 2 together before the crash, now she will have battle scars!!!
lol
still be good to see them side by side though
this one was good, but i have a feeling yours might be better:)
[/quote]
the estate one by the way lol
[quote=dazab;424855]is there a roll cage in that 850? if so where was it made or bought from?[/quote]
no the estate does not have a cage.
a quite ingenuis way of making it look like a cage though!:)
mine definately has a cage!
[quote=johnnytempest;424863]no the estate does not have a cage.
a quite ingenuis way of making it look like a cage though!:)
mine definately has a cage!
[/quote]
where did you get the cage from? im going to be making a track v70 and looking for some sort of cage, main part is to protect me, so does not have to fit the whole car, thats why i was thinking maybe a 850/s70 cage modified a little to fit?
my cage was designed and fitted by a company in Southampton called Raw Motorsport,
with a little help from TWR no less!!
I can find you a phone number, but I suspect they are a bit too far away for you?
[quote=johnnytempest;424873]my cage was designed and fitted by a company in Southampton called Raw Motorsport,
with a little help from TWR no less!!
I can find you a phone number, but I suspect they are a bit too far away for you?[/quote]
may be a little to far, now that i have seen that it has been done im sure i will find someone who does or has done caging in the past :D
[quote=p fandango;424879]your cage is very similiar to Big Red's (the estate)
[/quote]
i love the smiling face you can see in the reflection on the red one lol
[quote=johnnytempest;424873]my cage was designed and fitted by a company in Southampton called Raw Motorsport,
with a little help from TWR no less!![/quote]
thats interesting, because the TWR BTCC cars have a totally different cage. Yet yours is almost the same as the one in the evaluation car which was done by a Swedish company (can't remember there name)
TWR BTCC car
[quote=johnnytempest;424895]maybe have a chat with Rydell, he is fitting his own cage!
I cant/won't speak for him, but i think hes a bit nearer to home for you.[/quote]
ill have a look around for him :D
[quote=p fandango;424893]thats interesting, because the TWR BTCC cars have a totally different cage. Yet yours is almost the same as the one in the evaluation car which was done by a Swedish company (can't remember there name)
TWR BTCC car
[/quote]
looks like they have used a thinner tube,so having to put more tubes in.
also I wanted to take passengers,so the front diagonal was a no no
[quote=johnnytempest;424905]looks like they have used a thinner tube,so having to put more tubes in.
also I wanted to take passengers,so the front diagonal was a no no[/quote]
I know that it would cost the earth but how nice it be if you could get your hands on a set of those carbon door trims.
[quote=Jim S70R;424925]I know that it would cost the earth but how nice it be if you could get your hands on a set of those carbon door trims.[/quote]
its the rear bulkhead i love
better pic of the door card for you
[quote=p fandango;424934]its the rear bulkhead i love
better pic of the door card for you
[/quote]
where did you get them made????!!! love em, want some, mrsssss................how much cash we got??!! lol :D
those carbon fibre door cards are show only...................surely???
btcc rubbing is harsh, they would get wrecked in qually, forget the race!!! lol
[quote=AndysR;425064]Ok! Who decided to fit a Ford interior door release.....
The sacrifices Volvo had to make for BTCC....[/quote]
Trust you to notice that....
ok,as promised,
heres the provisional calendar for 2012 for Project 8 racing.
· 24/25 March – Brands Hatch Indy
· 14/15 April – Silverstone GP
· 12/13 May – Silverstone National
· 30 June/1 July – Snetterton 300
· 21 July – Oulton Park
· 18/19 August – Brands Hatch GP
· 1/2 September – Cadwell Park
· 6/7 October – Donington Park
look forward to seeing some of you :)
[quote=johnnytempest;427832]I expect to see you long before then ..........mate! :) lol[/quote]
i'd forgot you've got my fuel pump/swirl pot to plumb in, you free next weeK? lol
[quote=p fandango;427833]i'd forgot you've got my fuel pump/swirl pot to plumb in, you free next weeK? lol[/quote]
when the F1 is on?? not a chance!! lol
week after?
[quote=johnnytempest;427836]when the F1 is on?? not a chance!! lol
week after?[/quote]
you don't need to watch that, Vettel will win (if he can keep all his wheels on lol). BT's not ready anyway yet mate, but i'll keep you to it ;)
PS have you ordered one?
[quote=p fandango;427838]you don't need to watch that, Vettel will win (if he can keep all his wheels on lol). BT's not ready anyway yet mate, but i'll keep you to it ;)
PS have you ordered one?[/quote]
I doooooooooo need to watch that! its my church! lol
Vettel just needs to pump his tyres up to stop them coming off the rims! pmsl
and "every little helps" as they say, to get that beast of yours up and running!
besides, be good to see her( not you) again! lol
whenever your ready mate....:)
PS, no i haven't!
[quote=johnnytempest;427726]ok,as promised,
heres the provisional calendar for 2012 for Project 8 racing.
· 24/25 March – Brands Hatch Indy
· 14/15 April – Silverstone GP
· 12/13 May – Silverstone National
· 30 June/1 July – Snetterton 300
· 21 July – Oulton Park
· 18/19 August – Brands Hatch GP
· 1/2 September – Cadwell Park
· 6/7 October – Donington Park
look forward to seeing some of you :)[/quote]
Fancy a shakedown at Cadwell Park at WD40?
oh yes, be great for me to get a taster for later in the year
and on such a special occasion....how could I possibly refuse!
as long as my cars in one piece,u understand? lol
[quote=johnnytempest;429219]they seem to like it!!
:)
http://www.pbmwc.co.uk/P8RS/[/quote]
That's a wicked shot of yours, deffenty one to keep for the desk top background.
[quote=johnnytempest;429219]they seem to like it!!
:)
http://www.pbmwc.co.uk/P8RS/[/quote]
But of course! It's rare for a car to create the sort of attention that the 850 did when Volvo started racing in the BTCC... Ask anyone who likes BTCC to name a racing car from the series and I bet the Volvo 850, Ford Sierra Cosworth and possibly Jaguar are mentioned before anything else past or present. So naturally you'd want the most noticeable on your front cover ;)
[quote=johnnytempest;429219]they seem to like it!!
:)
http://www.pbmwc.co.uk/P8RS/[/quote]
nice one it is a good pic, but i have a question! Was the pic photshop'd or were the Bimmers trying to lap you? :hidesbehi
[quote=p fandango;429227]nice one it is a good pic, but i have a question! Was the pic photshop'd or were the Bimmers trying to lap you? :hidesbehi
[/quote]
Watch it!!! Lol
I was being hounded by them as my I/C had that
Massive crack in it, so I wasn't even making 1bar of boost and I didn't
Know the track!
Is that enough excuses?? Lol
[quote=johnnytempest;429249]Watch it!!! Lol
I was being hounded by them as my I/C had that
Massive crack in it, so I wasn't even making 1bar of boost and I didn't
Know the track!
Is that enough excuses?? Lol[/quote]
so the simple answer is "i was being lapped" lol
ok a quick update
during the year P8R dont score points,each event is in its own right.
but just for a laugh,points have been allocated.
I finished 25th out of 89 overall
and 8th in my class
I'm quite pleased with that,consideringI'm miles off the pace! lol
:wink:
finishing in the top 10 of your class is impressive mate, hopefully next year you'll be able to battle higher up & in the top 5 :)
ps out of interest, where did the JCB finish in the overall standings? lol
[quote=p fandango;429319]finishing in the top 10 of your class is impressive mate, hopefully next year you'll be able to battle higher up & in the top 5 :)
ps out of interest, where did the JCB finish in the overall standings? lol[/quote]
u just cant help yourself, can you???:ready2go:
lol
[quote=johnnytempest;429325]u just cant help yourself, can you???:ready2go:
lol[/quote]
He's coming to see me at the weekend im donating a sub-frame to him as he somehow got relived of his, you want me to give him a dig from you? :)
[quote=jamest5r;429339]He's coming to see me at the weekend im donating a sub-frame to him as he somehow got relived of his, you want me to give him a dig from you? :)[/quote]
oh yes!
a remote slapping!! how cool is that!! lol
I wonder where his subframe went???:hidesbehi
ok, done a couple of bits today
just to keep some of you happy!:wink:
from this:
to this: (not a great pic )
and I also fitted the HiD lamps
from this:
to this:
and why fit HiDs to a race car, I hear you say???
The only time I will need lights on, is in the rain,so I thought why not.
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;429341]oh yes!
a remote slapping!! how cool is that!! lol[/quote]
you don't get the satisfaction of doing it then tho. Does look alot better with the newer rear lights
[quote=p fandango;429445]you don't get the satisfaction of doing it then tho. Does look alot better with the newer rear lights[/quote]
That must be a rare occasion, Pedro posted without
the usual sarcasm ?
Are you not well my friend? Lol
[quote=johnnytempest;429526]That must be a rare occasion, Pedro posted without the usual sarcasm ?
Are you not well my friend? Lol[/quote]
in my defence your honour, it was almost midnight so half asleep. Normal pi55 taking shall resume.......................................................................................................................................................now
have you gone for super bright HID's to blind the Bimmers while your chasing them? lol
[quote=johnnytempest;429549]Hopefully it will be the bm's but the m3s instead!!
Fingers crossed! :)[/quote]
yeh, hopefully those 316's won't be much a problem with the new mods you've got going on ;)
[quote=p fandango;429551]yeh, hopefully those 316's won't be much a problem with the new mods you've got going on ;)[/quote]
:lol:
Seriously though, with what its having done i'm sure it'll be pretty quick when its finished.
[quote=LiamT4;429633]:lol:
Seriously though, with what its having done i'm sure it'll be pretty quick when its finished.[/quote]
so it will be all my fault if i'm not near the front! :wallbash:
no pressure! lol
seriously, a win is out of the question,the best is a podium.
I'm just aiming to get amongst the class A cars.
I'm sure the car is good enough, its me I'm worried about!?! :o
couple of bits turned up today
good exscuse to take a couple of pics and a better shot of the rear!
and tie bar bushes and a replacment bulkhead bush after the other one was ripped off.
[quote=The Flying Moose;431940]Very nice indeed, loving the rear plate... how much is Justin paying you for advertising???[/quote]
That 1 is on me! :)
having said that, there is a blank box next to my name in the programs.
maybe we could do something there?? :)
[quote=jamest5r;431950]So what you got left to do?? another from the black list up and running would be good :)[/quote]
well,
decals and..............engine! lol
nothing major. :)
[quote=johnnytempest;431962]well,
decals and..............engine! lol
nothing major. :)[/quote]
Engine's......walk in the park mate had mine out and back in NINE times in the last 2yrs(just counted it up lol)
[quote=jamest5r;431975]Engine's......walk in the park mate had mine out and back in NINE times in the last 2yrs(just counted it up lol)[/quote]
Nine times!!!!
that cat has run out of options! lol
glad to hear you got it going again,I will keep going till mine is running again too. trying to get the engine back before xmas,as I have some time off to get it fitted back in. but as you well know and as me and Sam have been discussing,putting it in is one thing, getting it started is another! :)
My aim is to get some track time in before the first race in March.
So, WD40 is one event I would like to attend, and a few track days at brands to check the times against my previous times there.
lots to do and until I get my horses back, I'm going nowhere....:(
Yeah looking at it that way the bitch is on her last chance lol, in the garage tomorrow to try and sort out the last few niggles(massive blow from the exhaust mani), but yeah would like to be at WD's 40th more for the p1ss up the night before more than the racing(sorry following respectfully :)) as i dont want to break anything lol.
pmsl!
racing(sorry following respectfully )
yea right!
joking aside, I will be right next to you on the track and in the pub!!
having my rods changed too, so will need to take it easy for a while.
I might turn up,just for the beer!
I'll borrow Sams car, he wont mind! lol
Hi all
had some more bits arrive today
and apparently Sam has been hard at work fitting them for me, because I dont know how to lift a spanner,cos I'm an english person!! lol
not sure the camera shows this clearly but its there, more camber! :)
certainly not as much as the rear anyway
front:
rear:
flywheel should have gone straight to mechanic, but came here instead? doh!
anyway, SAM will post that to him tomorrow.
JT
[quote=johnnytempest;434162]flywheel should have gone straight to mechanic, but came here instead? doh!
anyway, SAM will post that to him tomorrow.[/quote]
the lad's done well again, you'd be stuffed without him lol. If you'd of got Sam to order the flywheel i bet he'd of filled the order form & delivery address is correctly ;) lol
[quote=p fandango;434166]the lad's done well again, you'd be stuffed without him lol. If you'd of got Sam to order the flywheel i bet he'd of filled the order form & delivery address is correctly ;) lol[/quote]
well I hope he does paper work better than he does a 1/4 mile!!
:)
[quote=Pault5estate;434173]Might have to get some of those adjustable top mounts for mine, even if I never go on a track, it will suit the look! ;)[/quote]
looking forward to trying them out
along with all the other modifcations :)
[quote=johnnytempest;434182]nearly there mate,
wont be long for either of us
long before BT anyway!!:hidesbehi
:)[/quote]
I'm keeping out of that one mate! There will be handbags at dawn otherwise! :P
[quote=johnnytempest;436172]well he has had a long time off!
'bout time he did something!!:)
we cant wait to get stuck in and get it going again![/quote]
i'll have a go at taking the blanking bung out & get it & the lamba boss in the post to you as well the weekend (if i remember lol)
[quote=p fandango;436174]i'll have a go at taking the blanking bung out & get it & the lamba boss in the post to you as well the weekend (if i remember lol)[/quote]
that would be cool
the guy doing the engine work says he can weld it in for me:)
[quote=johnnytempest;436105]and the parts just keep on coming!! :)
is there anything I have missed? lol
[/quote]
Bolts for your rods? :) pm replied to mate lol.
[quote=jamest5r;436181]Bolts for your rods? :) pm replied to mate lol.[/quote]
yea yea, they are not important anyway!! lol
seem to be struggling to find what I need, but a phone call tomorrow might sort that???????;)
[quote=johnnytempest;441411]cheers mate!
clear as mud! pmsl[/quote]
theirs even bloody exploded diagrams of each pipe so you can see how it goes, & still it makes no sense. I was going to explain it all but had a better thought, show the pics to Sam he'll understand it (& probably end up doing it anyway lol)
[quote=Pault5estate;441433]This look all very familiar! Oh, yeah, I know why, been doing the same today! :P[/quote]
don't suppose you fancy making another set do you, because Johnny hasn't a clue what he's doing lol
Hi all,
Have taken delivery of all the silicone hoses and pipework needed,
some 302 brakes ( as AP dont seem interested ),
and then I was sent this :
just aswell I'm getting them changed!
I guess it didnt like the 365 lbs of torque!! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;445675]your guess is as good as mine??
they said I would get them in september.........:([/quote]
Bloody hell, you'd think when spending that amount on car parts they'd want to give you good service.
[quote=p fandango;441503]don't suppose you fancy making another set do you, because Johnny hasn't a clue what he's doing lol[/quote]
I probably could, though all my stuff is designed for a Garrett ;)
[quote=LiamT4;445678]Bloody hell, you'd think when spending that amount on car parts they'd want to give you good service.[/quote]
well you would like to think so........?????:cussing:
well as usual its good news, bad news! :(
these turned up today.........only ordered them in july!
and then I get phone call saying there is a problem with my forged rods!!!:cry:
one day, I might have some luck! lol
[quote=p fandango;456878]threatening them at the Autosport show worked then lol. Whats up with the rods? you haven't thrown your old ones away have you lol[/quote]
oh the autosport treatment really worked! lol
old rods are bent!
new ones sound like they are to big and I might have to have them lightened slighty....??
[quote=johnnytempest;456917]old rods are bent!
new ones sound like they are to big and I might have to have them lightened slighty....??[/quote]
atleast they still work lol. I'll get my grinder out lol
[quote=AndysR;456973]Nice brakes :)
Shame about the rods :( Was the engine noisy at all.. any symptoms at all?[/quote]
Think there catching in the actual build/test process on the bench.
[quote=Jamest5r;456958]What rods are they mate?[/quote]
supplied by Mitchyboy who has also sent some to mongo and his are fine.
Mitch is helping me out to try and work out what the differences are.top bloke.
[quote=AndysR;456973]Nice brakes :)
Shame about the rods :( Was the engine noisy at all.. any symptoms at all?[/quote]
yea they look great! :)
never had any symptoms except Pedro said he thought the engine sounded flat during my second race at Oulton Park.the new rods have brought up a problem still on the bench.
[quote=LiamT4;456986]Are you allowed APs in your race series?[/quote]
You can have any brakes you like so long as they fit under the original wheels I believe
[quote=Pault5estate;456993]Odd isn't it, yours have grooves, and mine are drilled Yet, they were ordered about the same time[/quote]
I'm told the grooved disc is stronger, which suits the use of my car.
[quote=LiamT4;456994]Which standard 850 wheels are you using then?[/quote]
The info I have suggest the titans are a 17" optional extra on the early t5. A bit of a loop hole, but it's a good 1! Lol
[quote=johnnytempest;457015]I'm told the grooved disc is stronger, which suits the use of my car.
The info I have suggest the titans are a 17" optional extra on the early t5. A bit of a loop hole, but it's a good 1! Lol[/quote]
That's also very true so a good choice of loop hole :)
[quote=johnnytempest;457015]I'm told the grooved disc is stronger, which suits the use of my car.
The info I have suggest the titans are a 17" optional extra on the early t5. A bit of a loop hole, but it's a good 1! Lol[/quote]
I believe you. ;)
Hopefully you aren't too hard on your brakes and you choose a soft pad compound as you will need to change the rotors in 1 millimeters time at a cost of over £200 each.
[quote=BlackBeast;457056]Hopefully you aren't too hard on your brakes and you choose a soft pad compound as you will need to change the rotors in 1 millimeters time at a cost of over £200 each.[/quote]
I do tend to drive a bit smoother than most, but having said that, if the car is good enough, I'll get carried away, as would anyone. :)
After picking up the engine on thursday night and spending friday night, saturday and sunday working on it, this happened....
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wHn_xcsTW4[/ame]
See you at Cadwell :)
[quote=mitchyboy01;459739]Good lad, how did you the fix problem in the end mate?[/quote]
Managed to have the rods machined, then weighed and balanced again!
Cheers for all your help! :B_thumb:
[quote=johnnytempest;459831]Managed to have the rods machined, then weighed and balanced again!
Cheers for all your help! :B_thumb:[/quote]
No problem mate. Glad you got it sorted!
[quote=Wobbly Dave;459849]Good work JT - sounds very meaty. Somewhat lower in tone to the standard. Can't wait to see you on the track![/quote]
sounded a bit "tappy" to start with while we waited for all the pressures to come up, but well pleased.
you cant wait?? how do you think I feel? lol
be good to get it on the dyno too:)
remap it with the blues in and see if all the hard work was worth it??
Is there room at the hotel for me and the trailer???
[quote=johnnytempest;459866]sounded a bit "tappy" to start with while we waited for all the pressures to come up, but well pleased.
you cant wait?? how do you think I feel? lol
be good to get it on the dyno too:)
remap it with the blues in and see if all the hard work was worth it??
Is there room at the hotel for me and the trailer???[/quote]
We can make room!
The Beaumont has more rooms available again, I just checked, two singles, a twin single and a double.
Ill close the road if neccessary?
[quote=The Flying Moose;459869]We can make room!
The Beaumont has more rooms available again, I just checked, two singles, a twin single and a double.
Ill close the road if neccessary?[/quote]
lol!!
I see there is a room available, but I was more worried about space for the trailer???
[quote=johnnytempest;459874]lol!!
I see there is a room available, but I was more worried about space for the trailer???[/quote]
Can always make space mate. Just grab a few police cones on your travel's and well cone an area off. LOl
[quote=johnnytempest;459874]lol!!
I see there is a room available, but I was more worried about space for the trailer???[/quote]
The car park at the Beaumont was not massive. I'd ring ahead.
Sorry Johnny only just caught up with this been having a couple of minor probs meself lol, great to see it off the Black List :)
We can just split the tralier/van and push it into a space no problem :)
[quote=Rydell;459927]Sorry, coming back to this one late again! When are you at Cadwell?
Would be great to see it in full flight.[/quote]
It's this coming saturday mate.
[quote=Jamest5r;459877]Sorry Johnny only just caught up with this been having a couple of minor probs meself lol, great to see it off the Black List :)
We can just split the tralier/van and push it into a space no problem :)[/quote]
nothing major I hope???????
having realised the beaumont is the wrong side of cadwell and parking is a bit restrictive, I have found another place with a massive car park.
shame cos I would have liked a beer with you, but we'll catch up on saturday:)
[quote=johnnytempest;459974]nothing major I hope???????
having realised the beaumont is the wrong side of cadwell and parking is a bit restrictive, I have found another place with a massive car park.
shame cos I would have liked a beer with you, but we'll catch up on saturday:)[/quote]
See my thread, lucky escape lol.
Me and Em aint driving sat so could come over for a beer :)
[quote=Jamest5r;459980]See my thread, lucky escape lol.
Me and Em aint driving sat so could come over for a beer :)[/quote]
Im only driving to get to cadwell on sat morn im not on track either. Me and frankie are stopping at the packhorse. Well all meet up somewhere.
Yep we can all meet up somewhere, if only the group had a Taxi **cough non-drinker** ;)
Johnny where abouts are you booked into? Ill try find a venue between all of the hotels?
[quote=Jamest5r;460573]No, might need it myself lol, what's the symtons mate....had a bit of practice with non-starters in the last few months[/quote]
same as yours, she's turning over, but it seems theres no spark???????
[quote=Pault5estate;460586]I've been banned from going anywhere nearly mine with anything flammable! I've not anywhere near trying to start it either! :P[/quote]
You'll be catching up with p fandango if it takes much longer! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;460589]i'm thinking the cam..........
i was messing around in that area yesterday
other than that, not changed a thing since the weekend[/quote]
What you been messing with lol, the cam sensor and "reader" have tiny tolerances as i found out to my cost.
[quote=LiamT4;460587]You'll be catching up with p fandango if it takes much longer! lol[/quote]
I have plenty of grinders up the unit! :P
its only been 18 months.................................... so far!
[quote=Jamest5r;460591]What you been messing with lol, the cam sensor and "reader" have tiny tolerances as i found out to my cost.[/quote]
if I right, the cam sensor is below the top engine mount????
we fired her up without any jubilee clips on the air system,so last night i just went back in and put the clips on, but i did mess with some plugs...:worried:
[quote=Pault5estate;460592]I have plenty of grinders up the unit! :P
its only been 18 months.................................... so far![/quote]
Not long then, the pyramids were built in less time than its taken to do BT ( they were both started at the same time too!).
[quote=johnnytempest;460594]if I right, the cam sensor is below the top engine mount????
we fired her up without any jubilee clips on the air system,so last night i just went back in and put the clips on, but i did mess with some plugs...:worried:[/quote]
Thats correct, there are only three conntectors in this area too, the cam which is white if I remember corrrectly, the crank sensor and the PTC Sensor.
Assuming you havnt phyiscally removed the cam sensor then there should be no reason for it to be the case, with James it was the little black reader that had a nip out of it but thats internal behind the sensor itself.
[quote=The Flying Moose;460598]Thats correct, there are only three conntectors in this area too, the cam which is white if I remember corrrectly, the crank sensor and the PTC Sensor.
Assuming you havnt phyiscally removed the cam sensor then there should be no reason for it to be the case, with James it was the little black reader that had a nip out of it but thats internal behind the sensor itself.[/quote]
Just volvos aint it, they're unreliable cars. :wink:
[quote=johnnytempest;460594]if I right, the cam sensor is below the top engine mount????
we fired her up without any jubilee clips on the air system,so last night i just went back in and put the clips on, but i did mess with some plugs...:worried:[/quote]
Yep your right thats the cam, also the connectors/plugs are fragile too lol, get a mutli meter on and check you have a signal on the loom side, check this 1st as if its failed no matter how many sensors you try they wont work!!.
panic over!!!!! :):):):):):):):):):)
curiousity got the better of me and I had to back to the garage.
I checked all the plugs and leads and found the plug to the sensor over the flywheel was loose. it was in, but loose. a cable tie will sort that.
thank **** for that!
cheers guys
James, u can keep your lighter for now, but have it on hand at the weekend!! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;460602]panic over!!!!! :):):):):):):):):):)
curiousity got the better of me and I had to back to the garage.
I checked all the plugs and leads and found the plug to the sensor over the flywheel was loose. it was in, but loose. a cable tie will sort that.
thank **** for that!
cheers guys
James, u can keep your lighter for now, but have it on hand at the weekend!! lol[/quote]
LEAVE IT ALONE, if you don't know what your doing get Sam to do it ;)
[quote=johnnytempest;460607]TFM, will you have your laptop with TT software on hand at the weekend????[/quote]
Yes can do mate. Are you thinking of a little light fettling prior to the track?
[quote=The Flying Moose;460634]Yes can do mate. Are you thinking of a little light fettling prior to the track?[/quote]
maybe............:wink:
to be honest, I have been told to keep it under 4000 revs and 1 bar boost to help run it back in.so I may need the rev limter adjusting for a start! lol
and maybe after lunch,towards the end of the day, maybe we can wind it up a bit.:B_steerin
[quote=johnnytempest;460640]maybe............:wink:
to be honest, I have been told to keep it under 4000 revs and 1 bar boost to help run it back in.so I may need the rev limter adjusting for a start! lol
and maybe after lunch,towards the end of the day, maybe we can wind it up a bit.:B_steerin[/quote]
Just make sure you have a copy of your current map to hand on a USB stick, CD or e-mail it to me. Otherwise we wont have your map to adapt only maps I have for my car.
Im assuming you have altered your old supatune map for the new hardware etc?
Either way I have tweaked the map I got from you so will need a copy to adjust your's as you cant download them off the ECU.
[quote=The Flying Moose;460652]Just make sure you have a copy of your current map to hand on a USB stick, CD or e-mail it to me. Otherwise we wont have your map to adapt only maps I have for my car[/quote]
it'll read it from the car won't it?
is the TT software not paired to an ECU?
[quote=p fandango;460659]it'll read it from the car won't it?
is the TT software not paired to an ECU?[/quote]
To the best of my knowledge and having "fiddled" with the TT you can adjust the map live on the car but the TT would need to know which map your using.
Its certainly not paired in any way to the ECU.
By all means check with Adam but to be on the safe side probably best to have a copy, if nothing else to revert back to?
ok i wont bother with that now! :(
but the car is being stubborn again!! it wont start????
what is going on???
1 minute it will, the next.......dead
james, we need to have a serious chat about your lighter! lol
ok, I think I have got to the bottom of it..........?
too much fuel going in.
pull the fuse to the fuel pump, turn it over, then put the fuse back in and it starts.
very weird, but it works
:)
[quote=johnnytempest;461340]ok, I think I have got to the bottom of it..........?
too much fuel going in.
pull the fuse to the fuel pump, turn it over, then put the fuse back in and it starts.
very weird, but it works
:)[/quote]
Too much time in the garage with beer......how the bloody hell did you work that out lol.
[quote=Jamest5r;461362]Too much time in the garage with beer......how the bloody hell did you work that out lol.[/quote]
Tried everything and that's the answer! Lol
Might be the TT or could be another problem
well another miserable day with the volvo............
started it up at 6:30 this morning,first time, then drove it onto the trailer.( sorry neighbours ) lol
then drove to brands for a trackday/running in.
arrived at brands to this:
needless to say at 10:30,we were told to go home. :(
just aswell,because the car wont start for love nor money!!!!!!!!! :(
quite handy was the trailer I hired had a winch on it! lol
did take a pic of said non starting car,with all the damage repaired and vinyls back on
but that was about it, :(
Car's looking good mate. Shame you never got a chance to get it out on track. At least the 2 weeks before Cadwell will give you a chance to get the starting problem sorted.
[quote=p fandango;461607]i assume the full refund or another track opinion still counts as you didn't make it out onto track?
bloody iCar, now whats it doing[/quote]
yea, get a credit for another day. thats 2 they owe me!! lol
i dont know, we r looking at the flywheel again
wow! what a week!!!
A faulty tcd sensor and a break in the wiring causing all the problems! :(
ok, finally after Cadwell was cancelled,then we got told to go home from Brands on Saturday at 10:30, the car not starting,amonst other things, I finally got some laps in!!!
new rods,rings and bearings meaning a slow start,but it went well.
0.8 bar of boost and 4000 rpm,not very exciting, but just felt great to get back in the car after 6 months.
and a big thanks to Adam (turbo tuner) for his help over the last few days,top man! :)
and of course to Sam for all his help, been a loooong week!
http://youtu.be/EYfVsh05EnY
[quote=p fandango;462834]nice one, your camera is the same one that i've got. Did you get your short-shift fitted?[/quote]
no, not yet.
also forgot to put the strut brace back on too!! :slap:
after problem after problem I managed a 15 minute run yesterday.
once we turned the boost up, it was popping pipes off quicker than I could fit them back on! lol
I spent yesterday at Brands for the MSVR media day and spent best part of it either having pictures taken or putting boost pipes back on!
There is a small pic already up on the MSVR website:
http://www.msvracing.co.uk/
Boost was coming in really late,4500 rpm????
but when it came in,OMG!!!! :)
The car shot me into Paddock hill bend at a proper rate of knots,ended up all crossed up,but managed to keep it out of the kitty litter. lol
Then with just a few laps left of the run, I lost gear selection, thankfully on the upshift along the back straight,no real dramas,just a surclip come off.
The car has got some real promise now, just need to iron out a few issues, get it mapped, etc and I think I can start to move up the grid. :)
and I found a small clip from outside the car from Monday's running in period.
http://youtu.be/XhNp3Zh-Fo0
JT
[quote=Wobbly Dave;463568]Shame we'll not see you at Cadwell Park. You busy 2nd March? I am off to Oulton Park.[/quote]
shame indeed, I think I need a bit more setup time.
I should be going to Snett on the 3rd, so the 2nd is out for me :(
[quote=johnnytempest;463586]shame indeed, I think I need a bit more setup time.
I should be going to Snett on the 3rd, so the 2nd is out for me :([/quote]
I will keep you informed of my planned track days - though I guess you'll be doing it for real soon so coming out with me will be a little pointless?
[quote=Wobbly Dave;463649]I will keep you informed of my planned track days - though I guess you'll be doing it for real soon so coming out with me will be a little pointless?[/quote]
Any track time is all good practise, so should there be another meet at a trackday, I'll do my best to be there :)
[quote=Wobbly Dave;463675]As the year moves into the motorsport zone - the open pit lanes get pushes into the weekdays. Are you able to do weekday runs?[/quote]
As long as its not too far away, otherwise it's the day off before as well ! Lol
[quote=johnnytempest;463758]well 1 picture has become available from the MSVR media day
and I'm sure there will be more to follow:)
[/quote]
Quality :)
[quote=p fandango;463780]in front of a BMW, i bet that picture will get framed ;) lol[/quote]
i'll put it along side this one!! lol
http://www.pbmwc.co.uk/P8RS/
[quote=johnnytempest;463796]i'll put it along side this one!! lol
http://www.pbmwc.co.uk/P8RS/[/quote]
good of them to photoshop the marshal out of the pic waving the blue flag at you ;)
Cheers rik! Lol
It would seem you went to the same school of sarcasm as Pedro!! Lmao!
I will hold my hands up to holding those guys up on that occasion!
I had a split boost pipes and cracked inter cooler that day! :(
[quote=Wobbly Dave;464020]I didnt see the point in going much larger than the turbo outlet - otherwise are you not just introducing Lag?
My RIP is 59mm.[/quote]
gonna try it, it defo needs a remap! lol
[quote=Jim S70R;465273]Good to see the old girl back on her feet and where she belongs ;)[/quote]
cheers mate, really looking forward to the new season:)
[quote=AndysR;466213]Wow I've missed loads on this thread.. Great to see it back at home on the track where it belongs..
Nice work JT :)[/quote]
cheers mate,
but this could turn into a speech only seen at an awards ceremony!!! lol
lots of work by lots of peeps!!:)
I am soooooo looking forward to this year.
3 weeks till the first race at brands, then onto Silverstone on the GP circuit too!!
then my little one arrives!! omg!
cant say what will happen after that, but aiming to do brands gp and oulton park at least
see how it goes i guess?
:)
[quote=johnnytempest;470153]I am soooooo looking forward to this year.
3 weeks till the first race at brands, then onto Silverstone on the GP circuit too!!
then my little one arrives!! omg!
cant say what will happen after that, but aiming to do brands gp and oulton park at least
see how it goes i guess?
:)[/quote]
I'll try and get to the silverstone race.
[quote=LiamT4;470158]I'll try and get to the silverstone race.[/quote]
it would be very cool to see some of you through the year at races local to yourselves!
remember meeting Blackdog,TC and Pedro at Oulton last year,puts me under a bit of pressure to do well, which I need, now and again, work better under pressure!! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;474470]
Would be good to some of you there!:wink:[/quote]
what, even me lol
Liam, you've got to come in your Bimmer. Johnny loves looking at the back of them lol
[quote=p fandango;474508]what, even me lol
Liam, you've got to come in your Bimmer. Johnny loves looking at the back of them lol[/quote]
:lol:
Shame brands is so far away, but i'll definatly go to some of the others.
and i wonder why...
the list of cars for brands:
BMW
BMW
BMW
bmw
Volvo
BMW
BMW
Ford
Bmw
Ford
bmw
Ford
BMW
BMW
BMW
BMW
BMW
BMW
BMW
BMW
BMW
Peugeot
Renault
BMW
Toyota
Renault
BMW
Rover
BMW
BMW
BMW
BMW
BMW
I rest my case!:)
at least its on the grid!!:)
hows your project coming along? lol
i think the only race your in is with pedro.......see who can build a project the slowest!!! :jaw::hidesbehi
Yes mate, that is the main thing.
Mine is moving along, just had all the intercooler pipes welded up and the ends flared, I'll get them back on soon.
Next big job is getting the exhaust sorted, and take the down pipe into be ceramic coated.
[quote=Pault5estate;474579]Yes mate, that is the main thing.
Mine is moving along, just had all the intercooler pipes welded up and the ends flared, I'll get them back on soon.
Next big job is getting the exhaust sorted, and take the down pipe into be ceramic coated.[/quote]
well at it sounds like your doing it properly, unlike someone else we know! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;474598]well at it sounds like your doing it properly, unlike someone else we know! lol[/quote]
Now, don't be nasty! :rolleyes:
Its cruel to make fun of the afflicted! :P
[quote=johnnytempest;474470]Hi all!
Yep, the new season starts this weekend at Brands!
Can't wait!
Timetable as below:
http://www.msvracing.co.uk/media/90667/timetable%2024%2025%20march%20bh%20indy%20issue%20three.pdf
Usual £13 for anyone over 12 yrs, if your lucky enough to be under 12,
You get in for free!!! :)
£10 if you book in advance!
Open paddock too!
Would be good to some of you there!:wink:[/quote]
:):)
[quote=LiamT4;475737]Will you be at silverstone in april?[/quote]
I plan to be there and have put my name down for it,
so as long as the new arrival doesn't come too early,i'll be there! :)
[quote=johnnytempest;475745]I plan to be there and have put my name down for it,
so as long as the new arrival doesn't come too early,i'll be there! :)[/quote]
Well, i'll be at that one then(depending on your situation obviously).
had some fun and games this week
from the head gasket going to the maf sensor failing
had all sorts of problems controlling boost and fueling this week,tried to sort it out at brands,but gave up and tried this..............
and got this:
happy days:)
[quote=johnnytempest;477093]no idea, i leave it to someone that knows what they are doing:)[/quote]
Good idea, I will be too.
Did he have any comments about it?
well its been an eventfull week only to be topped off by an eventfull raceday!
heres a small taster of some of the action from today
more to come,when I can keep my eyes open! lol
http://youtu.be/JxnYm9q_dsc
[quote=johnnytempest;477400]well its been an eventfull week only to be topped off by an eventfull raceday!
heres a small taster of some of the action from today
more to come,when I can keep my eyes open! lol
http://youtu.be/JxnYm9q_dsc[/quote]
Eventfull start. Those pesky bimmers are a bit better off the line than you. lol
[quote=johnnytempest;477405]yea, the remap gave me an unexspected amount of boost and torque early on,hence wheelspin of mass proportions!
:)[/quote]
Well thats fwd for you. Wrong wheel drive, i call it.
These cars would be a lot more sort after if they where rwd.
but i have got away from the 318's,320's even the 325's
now I just have to deal with the M3's!
and I gave 1 taste of things to come today, but i'll save that for later:)
[quote=johnnytempest;477410]but i have got away from the 318's,320's even the 325's
now I just have to deal with the M3's!
and I gave 1 taste of things to come today, but i'll save that for later:)[/quote]
Don't forget the M5s ;-)
[quote=johnnytempest;477088]had some fun and games this week
from the head gasket going to the maf sensor failing
had all sorts of problems controlling boost and fueling this week,tried to sort it out at brands,but gave up and tried this..............
and got this:
happy days:)[/quote]
what was the whp mate
[quote=johnnytempest;477414]sorry bud, had a busy time of it this week,
I will do my best to find out for you[/quote]
thanks mate nice car though and nice racing too are you doing trax this year
[quote=johnnytempest;477413]oh dont worry, he has spotted what I'm up to:)
he had a word........lol[/quote]
Has he noticed that its now "not as it left the factory"? Has someone come across this site and what you are doing.
[quote=LiamT4;477416]Has he noticed that its now "not as it left the factory"? Has someone come across this site and what you are doing.[/quote]
well the site is on the car in a few places, so it wouldnt suprise me if they were having a look around to see what I'm up to
evening Mike and John
:welcome:
lol
[quote=LiamT4;477416]Has he noticed that its now "not as it left the factory"? Has someone come across this site and what you are doing.[/quote]
well the site is on the car in a few places, so it wouldnt suprise me if they were having a look around to see what I'm up to
hello Mike and John
:welcome:
lol
[quote=johnnytempest;477419]well the site is on the car in a few places, so it wouldnt suprise me if they were having a look around to see what I'm up to
hello Mike and John
:welcome:
lol[/quote]
Its no that much different than standard ;-)
Anyway like those bmws are standard, engine wise, anyway. Probably running diffirent manifolds and cams at the least.
[quote=LiamT4;477420]Its no that much different than standard ;-)
Anyway like those bmws are standard, engine wise, anyway. Probably running diffirent manifolds and cams at the least.[/quote]
oooooo dont get them started on the cams!!
treading on dangerous ground there mate! lol
[quote=johnnytempest;477421]oooooo dont get them started on the cams!!
treading on dangerous ground there mate! lol[/quote]
I know what to do to bmws do to get more power. ;)
You'd be surprised how much more i can get out of my 540, just by fitting the intake manifolds off the earlier M62 V8.
[quote=johnnytempest;477424]dont get me started mate, we may be here sometime...............lol
i just having a heated debate on msn about it now[/quote]
Its probably harder to tell on NA engines when they have small mods.
Wouldn't surprise me if they had a few alpina type tricks on them i.e different crank, mahle pistons, etc.
and the old 325s are probably 327s. (325/525E[2.7] block with the 2.5 head)
I was only messing witcha. Sounds a daft thing to say but I recognise that track from the telly - in particular the first corner.
Defo gotta have a go at that!!
[quote=LiamT4;477427]Its probably harder to tell on NA engines when they have small mods.
Wouldn't surprise me if they had a few alpina type tricks on them i.e different crank, mahle pistons, etc.
and the old 325s are probably 327s. (325/525E[2.7] block with the 2.5 head)[/quote]
well i might employ you as a scrutineer if you know so much? :)
[quote=Wobbly Dave;477429]I was only messing witcha. Sounds a daft thing to say but I recognise that track from the telly - in particular the first corner.
Defo gotta have a go at that!![/quote]
recognise it from the telly?
i'm surprised at that, its only a local circuit in the dark corners of kent:)
[quote=johnnytempest;477433]well i might employ you as a scrutineer if you know so much?[/quote]
lol
I know plenty of theoretical stuff about them, my dad had a modded e28 525e and then an e32 735 with a few bits done to it, but its mostly just what my mates at my bmw independent have told me. Its them that you'd want with you, what they don't know about bmws aint worth knowing.
[quote=johnnytempest;477400]well its been an eventfull week only to be topped off by an eventfull raceday!
heres a small taster of some of the action from today
more to come,when I can keep my eyes open! lol
http://youtu.be/JxnYm9q_dsc[/quote]
that must of been race 2?
[quote=johnnytempest;477590]race 2 on the way:)[/quote]
bet that won't take long to upload :hidesbehi
that boost is fantastic, but it really doesn't like putting the power down at the bottom of the hill
[quote=p fandango;477597]bet that won't take long to upload :hidesbehi
that boost is fantastic, but it really doesn't like putting the power down at the bottom of the hill[/quote]
spoil the fun why dont you!!
at the bottom of paddock it is seriously under load
gears are all wrong, for that particular corner.:(
[quote=johnnytempest;477599]spoil the fun why dont you!![/quote]
ah but your the one who's got to explain everything once the videos out lol
[quote]at the bottom of paddock it is seriously under load
gears are all wrong, for that particular corner.:([/quote]
scary considering thats with a Quaife. I bet those Bimmers were calling you some names once you got onto the main straight lol
[quote=p fandango;477602]ah but your the one who's got to explain everything once the videos out lol
scary considering thats with a Quaife. I bet those Bimmers were calling you some names once you got onto the main straight lol[/quote]
i normally get a visit from a bimmer driver, but they are nomally all very happy!
here we go race 2.........
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU75GFrz-aQ[/ame]
[quote=t5frankie;477653]looks like fun mate, why are all those bimmers coming past though? cant be m3's[/quote]
thats how a 19t should spool Frankie ;)
[quote=johnnytempest;478001]on the last lap, right before the chequered, I was lapped by the leaders in M3's! lol[/quote]
if it wasn't so laggy i bet you'd of held them off lol
some more vids of the first corner inccident have been released......
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy4KfoiVoJM[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bV7El1xKE4[/ame]
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1RcMperx8c[/ame]
[quote=p fandango;477681]thats how a 19t should spool Frankie ;)[/quote]
my 19t goes very well thanks mate lol oodles of torque and power at just 1.3 bar, i knew i should of whacked it up to 1.5 for the dyno run lol
[quote=t5frankie;478313]my 19t goes very well thanks mate lol oodles of torque and power at just 1.3 bar, i knew i should of whacked it up to 1.5 for the dyno run lol[/quote]
1.1bar ;)
[quote=johnnytempest;478354]Hi smithy,
are these the figures you were after?
[/quote]
265.9 whp thats a nice figuire mate and what torque was it again.that the reason i only interested in whp not crank to many varyables on drag losses .
[quote=smithy;478473]265.9 whp thats a nice figuire mate and what torque was it again.that the reason i only interested in whp not crank to many varyables on drag losses .[/quote]
341 in the torque department. :)
[quote=johnnytempest;478477]341 in the torque department. :)[/quote]
that a good torque figuire mate i bet it flys now aslong as that is ibft of course.i do like this car though.i had similar figuires in my 940 at 4200rpm though because i was maxing the maf out hitting boost cut at under 17 psi.that was 265whp and 450nm torque .
I have made the decision to pull out of the silverstone meeting.
Even though I put my name down pretty early,there are sooooo many people
wanting to do it, I am down as "reserve no:5"!! :(
Basically, I am to turn up,qualify and be ready in the holding area for the races just incase 5 cars drop out...................I dont think so.
I was in 2 minds about doing this anyway,what with the baby due anytime soon,so this made my mind up really.
next race I'm looking at doing for Project 8 is Snett 300 on the 30th of July,which is a long way away,so might have to look again at other series or do some some trackdays instead if anyone is up for that?
JT
well its been a while and had to go to page 3 of the project section to find my thread, I thought it was time for some sort of update:)
well after the first race at Brands,the marshalls were pointing out I had "oily smoke" when I lifted off the power?? I was told it was the oil seals in the turbo.
sent the turbo off and there were no problems to report except metal swarf found in the oil entry!! not good.
so new rad/oil cooler
and new oil lines
and obviously an oil change and filter.
but then I had a thought the smoke could have been coming out of my PTC,which is now redundant. so a catch tank has been fitted
hopefully thats the end of the smoke???
Had new camber plates delivered to reduce the 6 degrees I was running,but the same things turned up,so with the help of T5 Stealth, I had them machined to half their standard size,in theory,reducing the camber by half,to a more sensible 3 degrees.
so now looks like this:
We had some problems getting the boost right. The standard bcs was playing up so one of these has been fitted.
switchable from in the car,so to reduce the boost through the slow corners and hopefully get rid of some of the understeer.
fitted a new trip for a bit of protection.
I was bored one day and painted the cam cover, I knew this would wind up certain people! lol
Also had my second set of Toyos turn up, so had them fitted,ready to go
found that my exhaust was burning its way through the rear bumper,so changed the bracket on that
then yesterday,I did a bit of experimenting............
most of us have short shift,front to rear, so I had a go at the side to side
and I have to say,it works a treat! :)
but as always, its not all good news
I went to move the car today and the alternator pretty much burst into flames!!!!!
always something to slow things down
anyway, thats it for an update
cheers
oh i wish i could give my true opinion on the rocker cover, but the language i'd have to use would get me banned lol
suppose the other jobs you've done aren't bad, & credit to the short-shift it's excellent
I went to Brands today,to work on supension set-up.
unfortunately, the weather had other ideas:(
oh and my catch tank was leaking like a sive,hence an off at paddock hill!!
lucky for me, I had not put the camera in the car at the time! lol
anyway,heres a few laps of .........well boring stuff really
http://youtu.be/6_EQqh_zlTQ
it certainly was!!
even a Ferrari was struggling!! why oh why he was out there anyway, is beyond me?? lol
http://youtu.be/2WYdUX8v8CA
I am having problems with the catch tank set up.
I have removed the pcv,blanked off the sump entry. camcover and block entries have been tee-ed together and piped into the tank,the other pipe from the tank is just to atmosphere.
I'm getting oil coming out of the catch tank??????
It has been suggested that i use the drain plug to recirc the oil from the catch tank back into the sump which I can do, but I am worried there may some underline problem as to why there is so much pressure at the catch tank,enough to spit the oil back out!?
any ideas anyone??
[quote=JT;510998]it certainly was!!
even a Ferrari was struggling!! why oh why he was out there anyway, is beyond me?? lol
http://youtu.be/2WYdUX8v8CA
I am having problems with the catch tank set up.
I have removed the pcv,blanked off the sump entry. camcover and block entries have been tee-ed together and piped into the tank,the other pipe from the tank is just to atmosphere.
I'm getting oil coming out of the catch tank??????
It has been suggested that i use the drain plug to recirc the oil from the catch tank back into the sump which I can do, but I am worried there may some underline problem as to why there is so much pressure at the catch tank,enough to spit the oil back out!?
any ideas anyone??[/quote]
i always run a catch tank with the orginal black tank separator conected to the engine ,just run the pipe from black plastic tank that would normally run to the inlet pipe straight to the catch tank and then run a pipe under the car to air mate.
[quote=JT;514076]i knew what that pic was before it even loaded!!
:cry::cry::cry:[/quote]
if it makes you feel any better i'm sure it wouldn't of suited your car anyway. We all know thats a lie, its like it was almost made for it (but that would depress you more, so i wouldn't say that)
[quote=Jamest5r;514093]JT, just contact t5steve and im sure he could make you one to that spec without a problem :)[/quote]
all joking aside, I'm not sure they would let me run it in my series, but it would look the mutts on all other occasions!!
well another poor day at the office:(
I went back to Brands again,to try and get some set up work done in the dry this time.
the weather was brill,really hot and perfectly dry.
did a couple of laps to see what the catch tank was up to.
I put a bottle over the end of the vent,making sure not to bung it up completely,so I could see what it was spitting out.
oh dear............
so not a good start to the day.
The decision was made to put the standard PCV and associated pipework and put the vent from that into the catch tank as some others have done on here.
As some of you will know,this was quite a lenghty job and took me till 12:55, then they shut the track for lunch! :slap:
so, having waited for an hour,I went out to see if that had cured it.
got on the main straght and popped a boost hose and had to park on the grass, waiting to be towed back! FFS
Some time later,after I had calmed down..........
finally managed to get some runs in, but not without problems
it would only boost to 1 bar and the brake pedal hit the floor!
So its all going swimmingly..................
Oh I did manage to get my rear facing camera working!! yay!
anyway,here are some laps in the dry,1 bar of boost,an oil leak and no brakes!
with some exspensive traffic to deal with:)
http://youtu.be/YhJOPa-LGbI
[quote=JT;518696]well another poor day at the office:(
I went back to Brands again,to try and get some set up work done in the dry this time.
the weather was brill,really hot and perfectly dry.
did a couple of laps to see what the catch tank was up to.
I put a bottle over the end of the vent,making sure not to bung it up completely,so I could see what it was spitting out.
oh dear............
so not a good start to the day.
The decision was made to put the standard PCV and associated pipework and put the vent from that into the catch tank as some others have done on here.
As some of you will know,this was quite a lenghty job and took me till 12:55, then they shut the track for lunch! :slap:
so, having waited for an hour,I went out to see if that had cured it.
got on the main straght and popped a boost hose and had to park on the grass, waiting to be towed back! FFS
Some time later,after I had calmed down..........
finally managed to get some runs in, but not without problems
it would only boost to 1 bar and the brake pedal hit the floor!
So its all going swimmingly..................
Oh I did manage to get my rear facing camera working!! yay!
anyway,here are some laps in the dry,1 bar of boost,an oil leak and no brakes!
with some exspensive traffic to deal with:)
http://youtu.be/YhJOPa-LGbI[/quote]
Nice vid mate I cannot wait for silver stone to get the 940 on there with my new ipd sway bars
Well here goes................
racing at Brands on the GP circuit yesterday. the car was flying and I was really enjoying it.
The breather problem I have,got really bad at one point,but compared to some,I had a great day!
And a massive thanks to Sam for all his hard work in 30+ degree heat !!
race 1:
[video=youtube_share;tY_T2XtUkAY]http://youtu.be/tY_T2XtUkAY[/video]
race 2 is on its way:)
[QUOTE=JT;531371]race 2:
[video=youtube_share;XfdZJS58qKQ]http://youtu.be/XfdZJS58qKQ[/video][/QUOTE]
Nice vid mate I cannot wait till next year when I will be doing a similar thing in the 940 now the handling is sorted.also I like that Capri looks fast too
[QUOTE=JT;531387]im not into ford at all, but its a beauty!!
you gonna join me on the grid? make me look silly? lol[/QUOTE]would I do something like that it would have to be a open track day because donot want to do what you have had to do to yours.make you look silly I don't think so more like you make me look sad lol.and that's my fab type of Capri a mk 1 they always look the tits yes big wobbly ones lol
[QUOTE=t5 stealth;531508]love the mk1 capri :)
good footage mate and i recognise that bmw :wink:[/QUOTE]
Yea thought you might, had a quick chat with him, but not for long.
[QUOTE=martinrpeachey;531511]Nice going there JT, the handling looks pretty good, although, the back end seemed a bit hard (don't ask why I thought that but it seemed that way;))[/QUOTE]
Your dead right mate! Something not quite right at the rear, but I'm not far away :)
[QUOTE=JT;531530]Something not quite right at the rear, but I'm not far away :)[/QUOTE]
still need to sort out that lag tho lol. As you know i'm very impressed with how its doing & glad your enjoying driving the car again, i won't be happy till that piece of paper says 350bhp :)
[QUOTE=LiamT4;531598]Cars looking good. So when are you coming to a track on the right side of the m25?? ;-)[/QUOTE]
well i'm hoping to be at trax
and if i can afford it, donnington in october
[QUOTE=JT;531603]well i'm hoping to be at trax
and if i can afford it, donnington in october[/QUOTE]
if you do go to donnington, then i'll definatly be there.
[QUOTE=LiamT4;531638]How does it seem to compare to the other cars? Whats it like in a straight line (when you have traction lol)[/QUOTE]
it aint bad,wil keep up with the m3's, if i can split them up, then i loose out in the corners! doh!!
[QUOTE=JT;531640]it aint bad,wil keep up with the m3's, if i can split them up, then i loose out in the corners! doh!![/QUOTE]
They can't be standard, engine wise then, your car should be as fast if not faster than most m3s up to the e46's.
Are they the quickest cars then?
Whats your starting weight then?
e30 m3s are 200-235bhp standard (depending on which one they are) and weigh around 1165kg, light but not much power.
e36 m3s are 286 or 321bhp, but weigh around 1460kg.
I doubt if any of them will have over 260lb/ft........when standard.
the weights are done via carfolio.com
I'm allowed to be 95% of the curbweight including me(which is handy!lol) 1375Kg
I think the M3's may be different,cos they were carrying lead ballast in the passenger seat position,deemed to be unsafe,so they make them run standard cams but 100kg lighter,but dont quote me on that
[QUOTE=JT's Mechanic;531653]I think anything extra they've got on the straights is mostly because they carried all that speed through the corners, unlike the Volvo! lol[/QUOTE]
Your probably right, i bet once past 80mph the volvo really gets going, just need long enough straights to get the most out of it. lol
Well here we go again...........
engines out and hopefully picking up a replacement over the next couple of days,swap the rods and put it all back together,RR it, and hopefully see you all at trax!!
fingers crossed eh?
[QUOTE=JT;532223]Well here we go again...........
engines out and hopefully picking up a replacement over the next couple of days,swap the rods and put it all back together,RR it, and hopefully see you all at trax!!
fingers crossed eh?
[/QUOTE]
What is wrong with the engine mate
[QUOTE=JT;532343]Lol,
If they didn't do bad luck, I wouldn't get any! Lmao
It'll all come good, jamest5r has promised me!! :)[/QUOTE]
I always keep my promise's :)
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;532344]I always keep my promise's :)[/QUOTE]
i defo need that lighter!!!! :
[QUOTE=claymore;532346]Got to be ready for trax, I need a pic of our cars together on the track[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pault5estate;532430]and with mine, but not on the track :([/QUOTE]
sorry boys, not going to happen, my engine is shagged!! :(
[QUOTE=M-R-P;532464]I think I see the problem... there's a big blue hand rattling around in there...[/QUOTE]
i'm hoping the blue is gay enough for you???? lol
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;532467]Front of the M3's with a decent block then :)[/QUOTE]
thats what i'm teling myself,320+ bhp in that condition?, a whats a new lump gonna do???
[QUOTE=M-R-P;532469]Oohh! handbag lol.[/QUOTE]
10 paces Mr P! lmao
[QUOTE=p fandango;532496]the way your thing boosts i wouldn't guarantee it[/QUOTE]
well we're gonna find out!! :)
picked up another bare engine this morning,3 hour round trip,got it back and started on it straight away.
T5 Stealth to the rescue yet again! thanks mate! stealth put all the cams back together for me as that sort of stuff is way over my head!! lol
then I proceeded to bolt on as many things as could before I ran out of energy!
Sam took the opportunity to bolt on some shiny bits too!! :)
tomorrow,i'm hoping to get the box fitted and get it back in the car,so maybe Monday will be start up day! :smirk:
so fingers crossed, if it runs,It will be at trax! We might only get a few laps before something bends,but it'll be fun trying!!
[QUOTE=Pault5estate;532586]Fingers crossed for you mate.
If you get it running, you still coming to Trax?[/QUOTE]
I'll be at Trax,whatever happens, with or without my car:)
[QUOTE=smithy;532622]I'm going to trax in a n/a 1.8 s40 lol[/QUOTE]
well I raced last weekend with a 3cylinder T5!!!
hoping to have all 5 for trax! lmao
well the new engine is in and running!!!! :)
but i have had enough for now, will tidy up later...................
big thanks again go to T5 Stealth!! top bloke!! :B_thumb:
well Its catch up time:)
as its been over a year since my last update................
Ok, Trax 2012, the car sat in the garage doing nothing, for quite a while
The opportunity to run the GP circuit at Silverstone in 2013( little did I know at the time ), was too good to miss!
So, I brought an engine stand and set to work
Fit these in was the first job
then start to rebuild,
I fitted a ported head and modified cams and
Painted a couple of bits, tidy things up
put all this back in the race car, to find it wouldn't start. so I take it all back out again and try again.
whilst the engine was out, I was trying to think of a way I could run this engine in, should I get it started
Then someone came up with the question" shame you don't have something road legal you could put the engine in???!!"
what a cracking idea!!! :)
so I put the engine in Black, it still wouldn't start at this point, but it was in....
I went back to standard cams......no joy
I went back to a standard head and standard cams and it started first time:)
I will take a look at the ported head when I get chance, but for now its running and I needed to get some miles on the engine.
500 miles later, at a painfully slow speed, the weekend came to swap it back to the racecar.
I'm getting quite good at this now,4 hours from floor to car and running!!
so at this point the idea, was to go to Trax, via a rolling road on the Saturday.
but, the pc would not talk to the ecu:(
Sam spent many hours trying to get it work, and with Adams help, it finally worked at 11:21am Saturday morning, 9 mins before we were due to leave!! phew
load it all up and drive to Dartford.
at this point I'm starting to get really nervous, after all, I've never built an engine before and it was about to be given a shake down..............
well after a few problems and technical hitches, 3 hours later, we finally managed this:
its not perfect, but at the time, it will do! lol
I think we all know what happened at Trax, except what actually went wrong, so I wont go into that.
anyway a list of the mods on my car to date:
344bhp
358 lb/ft
19t turbo
billet compressor wheel
Forge motorsport actuator (red spring)
Forge motorsport recirc valve (red spring )
JT 3" exhaust with decat
S60R exhaust manifold
3" RIP kit
3" Volvo 960 throttle body
3" air intake & MAF
K&N cone filter
ported inlet manifold
10mm thermal manifold spacer
TTV billet flywheel
850R Clutch
ARD lightweight crank pulley
Gates racing performance timing belt
60mm KL racing aluminium intercooler
forged con-rods
Turbo-Tuner ecu & custom map
adjustable fuel pressure regulator
green fuel injectors
silicone coolant pipes
MPRE extra crank case breather
oil breather catch tank
MSD master blaster coil
twin fuel pump system with 2litre swirl pot
IPD anti-roll bars
custom front droplinks
custom aluminium subframe bushes
Gaz coilovers with custom rated springs
Powerflex upper engine & bulkhead mount
Powerflex wishbone bushes & gear box tie-bar
30mm wheel spacers on rear
10mm wheel spacers on front
3.5 degree rear camber plates
adjustable front camber bolts
adjustable front suspension top plates
Volvo strut brace
M56H gearbox with 4.45 fdr
Quaife limited slip diff
short-shift gear linkage plate with custom side throw lever
solid gear linkage bushes
sequential shift light
T-5R front bumper
TopCat front bumper splitter
single windscreen wiper conversion
headlight wipers removed
1995 BTCC decals (with sponsors adapted)
aero bonnet catches & boot hooks
AP racing front discs & calipers
braided brake hoses all round
that'll do for now, I'll update more often and as soon as I know whats wrong with it now
cheers
JT
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;643641]Anyway how was the new box? forgot to ask with everything else going on :)[/QUOTE]
box was good, quite different from standard,I would like to get the car back to brands for a proper comparison:)
[QUOTE=JT;643650]box was good, quite different from standard,I would like to get the car back to brands for a proper comparison:)[/QUOTE]
Keep us informed of what went wrong mate nice car though.
nice car JT, it was great to get a chance to chat this year, hope your track troubles are easily sorted and I also noticed how much better a track car looks in a track photo, there are some great shots of your car out there and if I find any I've not seen before I'll post them up he for you mate
[QUOTE=Tomcat;643674]Awesome car mate, it's good to see what you've put into it. I'd love to see it one of these days.[/QUOTE]
Hoping to be racing again next year, so might see you again at Oulton Park?
[QUOTE=MoleT5-R;643695]nice car JT, it was great to get a chance to chat this year, hope your track troubles are easily sorted and I also noticed how much better a track car looks in a track photo, there are some great shots of your car out there and if I find any I've not seen before I'll post them up he for you mate[/QUOTE]
I was hoping for some pics of all the flames I heard so much about!! Lol
[QUOTE=JT;643733]I was hoping for some pics of all the flames I heard so much about!! Lol[/QUOTE]
I was hoping to see some flames in some pics or vids, but nothing yet mate, I'll keep looking :firedevil
[QUOTE=JT;643733]Hoping to be racing again next year, so might see you again at Oulton Park?
[COLOR="#FF0000"]I was hoping for some pics of all the flames I heard so much about!![/COLOR] Lol[/QUOTE]
I'd have taken photos, but I was a bit busy. ;)
[QUOTE=stribo;644068]I'd have taken photos, but I was a bit busy. ;)[/QUOTE]
from what I heard, it was everytime I lifted!?!
not just when things went bang! lol
whilst the mrs and little 1 were having a nap, I took the opportunity to shoot down the garage, to see what I could find
not much:(
here goes my first theory, shows what I know! lol
then I couldn't see anything obvious:
gonna have to get in deeper:(
quick update....
Was given an opportunity to get in the garage today,
so I took the sump off
cant see anything wrong here,so its the head off next time
JT
[QUOTE=oblark;647507]Have i missed something............... is that the race car engine ?[/QUOTE]
yes thats the race engine, and it sounds like you have missed something, flames and smoke!! lol
something let go at trax, so just trying to find the problem.
video is on the trax video/pic thread
[QUOTE=p fandango;647521]good to see your socket set wasn't in the sump then, wonder where you've put that lol[/QUOTE]
well as its not in the sump, I'm guessing its either in the head or the tool box!! lol
[QUOTE=JT;647524]well as its not in the sump, I'm guessing its either in the head or the tool box!! lol[/QUOTE]
i'm sure you don't need to ask where i reckon you'll find it lol
[QUOTE=p fandango;647525]i'm sure you don't need to ask where i reckon you'll find it lol[/QUOTE]
I'm thinking the Wellington straight at Silverstone or in Stribos front grill!! lol
heads off:
at first glance.....it looks ok
look a bit closer......
piston has been hitting the head!!!
so I take out said piston and rod to check the shells.........oh dear
they should look like this:
even found some scoring on the bottom of the piston
that's it................I'm out:(
anyone want to buy a race car with a knackered engine????
[QUOTE=JT;647714]
that's it................I'm out:(
anyone want to buy a race car with a knackered engine????[/QUOTE]
NOOoooo!!!! Don't give up..... We need to figure out why!!!
Is it scoring on the bottom of the piston just balancing marks?
It's worrying that this is the second built engine that's spun it's bearing on the first aggressive drive, There has to be something wrong with the rods.
[QUOTE=Tomcat;647749]I cant see how you'd get any marks on the bottom of the piston other than for balancing, there's nothing that could reach up that high to catch it.[/QUOTE]
with no bearing left, I would think the crank webs could hit the bottom of the piston.
[QUOTE=claymore;647757]with no bearing left, I would think the crank webs could hit the bottom of the piston.[/QUOTE]
Good point.i didn't think they got that close, but makes sense..
[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;647762]Good point.i didn't think they got that close, but makes sense..[/QUOTE]
Me either tbh,but I wasn't sure how much of the piston extended into the crank case during rotation. You'd have thought there'd be more clearance than the width of the bearing otherwise surely you're risking severe engine damage (snapped compenents, broken crank case) in the even of a bearing failure?
That that 90k engine you got from me and put the rods in and dont mess with anything else and you will be fine, new bearing's are a mine field when i looked into it so many different gauges of them it messed my head up lol, im using original bearing and running 26psi with out problems and for over 4k miles now, just keep it simple mate less to go wrong, good luck matey :)
Some things wrong either old worn bearings fitted to new rods or wrong bearings I never had s problem grtting myne I took the rods and crank to the machine shop to have bearings matched
[QUOTE=martybelfastt5;647846]dont give in jt your so close to having an animal of of track car:eclipsee_[/QUOTE]
Wot he says.....I was very impressed with the car when you took me out at TRAX even though it wasn't 100%
It would be such a shame not to carry on with her, both Colin and Dave to name a few have had problems with their cars over the past few months and had similar thoughts, thankfully after sleeping on it they decided to carry on.
so can i ask what people think has caused them to go like that. Could it be oil starvation as it was thrown around the corners (oil pick-up then having no oil), a bad bunch of bearings, as i understand it Volvo only do the 1 set of bearings for the conrods so assume they were the right ones.
[QUOTE=JT;647714]heads off:
at first glance.....it looks ok
look a bit closer......
piston has been hitting the head!!!
so I take out said piston and rod to check the shells.........oh dear
they should look like this:
even found some scoring on the bottom of the piston
that's it................I'm out:(
anyone want to buy a race car with a knackered engine????[/QUOTE]
Almost identical failure to mine. I know how you feel. It would be a real shame to throw in the towel now.
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;647788]That that 90k engine you got from me and put the rods in and dont mess with anything else and you will be fine, new bearing's are a mine field when i looked into it so many different gauges of them it messed my head up lol, im using original bearing and running 26psi with out problems and for over 4k miles now, just keep it simple mate less to go wrong, good luck matey :)[/QUOTE]
well apart from new bearings, that's all I did on that engine,but as Claymore says,i'm suspecting the rods
[QUOTE=oblark;647795]I have two questions,
1. did you fit a new oil pump ?
2. Did you use volvo or aftermarket brgs ?[/QUOTE]
no and original
[QUOTE=t5 pete;647798]Some things wrong either old worn bearings fitted to new rods or wrong bearings I never had s problem grtting myne I took the rods and crank to the machine shop to have bearings matched[/QUOTE]
might be my next move........
so what is the recessed bit supposed to do?
standard rod in the middle
rod from my first engine build to the left
and rod from my last build on the right
the recessed bit, from my a-series days, was to accommodate a tag pressed into the bearing to stop it being able to spin in the big end, sorry to see it was that bad the damage was the crank salvageable
They should be like this:
Looks to me as if you had the wrong bearings for the rods, I wonder if Wobblys was the same?
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well I've had 3 sets of shells and no sign of a tab/lug anywhere??
probably a stupid question, but are you supposed to 'make' the lug when fitting new shells???? I suspect not, but got to ask
[QUOTE=Tomcat;652268]Would have thought that without the tab the bearings could spin and then you've got oil starvation.[/QUOTE]
I spoke to the machine shop about the tabs as mine didnt have them even the original shells that came from my engine didnt have them from the factory they said most manufacturers were now using shells with no tabs
[QUOTE=claymore;652262]They should be like this:
Looks to me as if you had the wrong bearings for the rods, I wonder if Wobblys was the same?
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I think thats nail on head
[QUOTE=t5 pete;652285]I spoke to the machine shop about the tabs as mine didnt have them even the original shells that came from my engine didnt have them from the factory they said most manufacturers were now using shells with no tabs[/QUOTE]
I would say that if the rods have slots, you should use tabs, if the rods don't have slots, then no tabs.
[QUOTE=claymore;652296]I would say that if the rods have slots, you should use tabs, if the rods don't have slots, then no tabs.[/QUOTE]
In theory thats correct but genuine volvo rods have cut backs but still use shells with no tabs it seem a cross over point for volvo where they were using shells with no tabs but there rods still had the slots.
[QUOTE=Tomcat;652311]If they have no tabs then how do they not spin and block off the oil access to the bearing? Cant just be relying on friction to keep them in place.[/QUOTE]
Thats what kost manufacturers are relying on tc it must work I honnestly think the people aho are having trouble are either using worn or wrong size shells just look at the ammount of engines running these shells with no problems they also came this way from the factory
Bad times JT, as previously suggested it's probably a bearing fault. Incidentally which rod bearings were affected? For the record a number of the aftermarket rods available have no locating tabs..
These are my genuine Volvo shells that were fitted to my engine from the factory and as you can see theres no tabs there just a smooth shell.
Now here you can see the rod caps and rod did have cut out but obviously not used I have yet to hear any one use shells or sell them with tabs as I was looking for a set of my self but obviously the smooth shells do work.
Jt I would recommend taking your rods and crank to a machine shop and let them match the shells for you I didn't purchase my shells through Volvo the machine shop got me all the shells pistons etc that I needed and obviously made sure my crank wasn't worn.
Just saying that have you had your crank inspected for wear?
The shells locate like any other bearing that you don't want the outer (or inner) to turn, they require an exact, press or interference fit etc. The tabs are just to locate the bearing on assembly they will not stop a bearing from turning/moving if they are incorrectly sized.
Were the internal diameters of the big ends of all the rods checked before assembly?
[QUOTE=t5 pete;652357]These are my genuine Volvo shells that were fitted to my engine from the factory and as you can see theres no tabs there just a smooth shell.
Now here you can see the rod caps and rod did have cut out but obviously not used I have yet to hear any one use shells or sell them with tabs as I was looking for a set of my self but obviously the smooth shells do work.
Jt I would recommend taking your rods and crank to a machine shop and let them match the shells for you I didn't purchase my shells through Volvo the machine shop got me all the shells pistons etc that I needed and obviously made sure my crank wasn't worn.
Just saying that have you had your crank inspected for wear?[/QUOTE]
I think you may well be right Pete, which will means a new crank, new shells, new rods
new pistons, rings, head gasket , head bolts etc etc etc
As I posted before..........I think that me done for a while :(
[QUOTE=claymore;652262]They should be like this:
Looks to me as if you had the wrong bearings for the rods, I wonder if Wobblys was the same?
[/QUOTE]
My K1 Tech rods did not have a rod big end journal recess. Shells AFAIK didn't have any corrsponding lugs. I am now wondering if I have chosen the wrong rods?
I am going to ensure that my shells are exactly matched. I did wonder when I removed them that the shells were a bit loose inside rod big ends.
[QUOTE=Wobbly Dave;652413]My K1 Tech rods did not have a rod big end journal recess. Shells AFAIK didn't have any corrsponding lugs. I am now wondering if I have chosen the wrong rods?
I am going to ensure that my shells are exactly matched. I did wonder when I removed them that the shells were a bit loose inside rod big ends.[/QUOTE]
They don't require a recess, if you get the correct size shells to ensure the bearing crush is within the manufacturers specification they will not move. Or sometime the rods need machining to get the correct crush.
Who measured the big ends & spec'd the shells?
The engine was assembled at the bottom end of 2012 by a Shropshire based firm. TBH I don't think we'll be reusing any of them - particularly as the crank journal on #2 was ruined. I can't assume that the crank replacing it will be the same. I am using a different firm for this assembly though.
small update
and as usual, its good news bad news! lol
I have decided to go back to a standard engine, as I'm told it will be fine up to 1.2 bar of boost and with the lower ratio box, shouldn't produce enough torque to do any damage. Time will tell.
so went on a bit of a road trip yesterday:)
first stop C&G Motor factors, AKA Merc85.
dropped off a fuel rail and picked up 2 drive shafts, been meaning to replace mine since the accident at Avon.
From Merc to Nealevo, to pick up and engine. this standard engine will go in the race car.
from Nealevo up to Coventry, to drop off a cylinder for graemewelch to JamesT5R, only to be given a turbo to bring back for Boostwagon!!
The VPCUK courier service in full swing! lol
Met James and Pedro for a nice chat over a cool beer:)
Back to Pedros to drop off bits for him and pick up a bumper for me.
then head home.
pleasure meeting everyone again:)
so I get home after nearly 500 miles and 120quids worth of diesel! but A good day...........
then comes the bad bit..........
woke up this morning to this:
hoping it wasn't the van, I opened the back doors to find
so I started to get the engine and bits out of the van to reveal the full leakage
it was everywhere!
so after a 4 hour clean up operation, wondering why the leak had happened in the first place, I remembered a certain person removed the dipstick and tube for his own project, leaving it open! oh dear! lol
why there was that much oil in there anyway, I don't know, but nevermind.
anyway, I had a quick play with the bumper.
I like the look of the V70R bumper, so wondered if it would fit the 850
not quite, but a bit of modification here and there and I think that could look good, especially with a TC splitter on it:)
this bumper is to go back, so If anyone hears of 1 available, give me a shout.
cheers JT
Well, I've booked a track day for next month,
So need to get that engine in a bit sharpish!
Still thinking about an aftermarket oil cooler, if anyone can recommend one?
[QUOTE=JT;663685]Well, I've booked a track day for next month,
So need to get that engine in a bit sharpish!
Still thinking about an aftermarket oil cooler, if anyone can recommend one?[/QUOTE]
You need oil in it first!!
[QUOTE=JT;663759]I need my sleep!!! lol[/QUOTE]
You need your bueaty sleep lol .look on ebay under Mocal oil coolers .it is recommended to use a 19 row or above with car over 2.0 and over 300bhp too .
[QUOTE=smithy;663802]You need your bueaty sleep lol .look on ebay under Mocal oil coolers .it is recommended to use a 19 row or above with car over 2.0 and over 300bhp too .[/QUOTE]
How much?? :shockedbi
well I didn't get as far as I wanted at the weekend, only managed a few hours on Sunday.
still....got what's left of the old engine out.
but that's about it.
but I did pick up my new oil lines for the cooler today:)
[QUOTE=Tomcat;666093]Glad to see you're making progress.[/QUOTE]
cheers TC, someone with a sensible post:)
[QUOTE=M-R-P;666095]Ahh.. I think I see the problem...
The engine is on the floor mate.
That is all
;)[/QUOTE]
your quite right the engine is on the floor, but the big problem is putting it back!! lol
Might sound like a stupid question, but when you change your oil with an oil cooler, how do you get it out, or does the old dirty oil just stay in the cooler and mix with the new oil you put in?
[QUOTE=JT;666159]In my case, the oil never stays in the engine anyway!!
I think I can't quote claymore, when he called it a " rolling oil change!" Lol[/QUOTE]
Like Pedro's tractor? never had an oil change but it gets a liter every month or so, meaning it's always pretty fresh lmao.
[QUOTE=stribo;666149]Might sound like a stupid question, but when you change your oil with an oil cooler, how do you get it out, or does the old dirty oil just stay in the cooler and mix with the new oil you put in?[/QUOTE]
If the aux oil cooler is mounted with the pipe work at the top then no you wont get all the oil out.
But if you mount it with the pipe work at the bottom then when you drain the oil out of the engine it will drain out of the oil cooler
( as long as the oil is hot otherwise the thermostat on the oil feed to the oil cooler from the engine will be closed )
[QUOTE=M-R-P;666158]You never get all the oil out when you change the oil any way so I can't see it being a problem, especially if the oil gets changed a lot.[/QUOTE]
I understand that a small amount of oil stays in the engine when it's drained, but an oil cooler full seems a lot to leave in the system.
[QUOTE=stribo;666223]I understand that a small amount of oil stays in the engine when it's drained, but an oil cooler full seems a lot to leave in the system.[/QUOTE]
I think the good book of lies, reckons nearly 2 litres of oil stays in the system on a service
only when you take it apart, do you get the rest of it.
made a bit more progress tonight:)
lifted the old engine off the frame
lifted the new(ish) engine onto the frame
removed all the old auxiliary parts, A/C, alternator, power steering pump, dizzy, rotor, coolant pipes, pcv, etc
fitted new rear main seal, fly and clutch.
[QUOTE=JT;666660][COLOR="#FF0000"]what happened to the last 1 I gave you and HWSNBN???[/COLOR]
maybe after my trackday, I may have another 1 for you! lol[/QUOTE]
he scrapped it.
[QUOTE=stribo;666664]Whilst you have it stripped to that degree, I don't suppose you could take a photo of whereabouts the oil pressure sensor is please.[/QUOTE]
I have an adaptor on mine, allowing me to run a oil temp sensor too:)
[QUOTE=Martin-t5r;666810][COLOR="#FF0000"]Mine has a modded oil stat housing, so it's constantly circulating oil to the front mounted ext cooler[/COLOR]
Love this thread btw JT[/QUOTE]
liking the sound of that, pm me some details:)
Nice work so far JT, if I have missed it already I appologise, what has been done to the engine that's going in or is just a standard lump from a known good source that you will run for a bit?
[QUOTE=AndysR;667084]Nice work so far JT, if I have missed it already I appologise, what has been done to the engine that's going in or is just a standard lump from a known good source that you will run for a bit?[/QUOTE]
going standard, wind the boost back a bit and hopefully get some laps in.
If I'm right, it should still push out over 300bhp:)
bit more done this afternoon
looks like the head has been ported???
not sure if that's a good sign or not??
also tried to remove the oil stat, first attempt didn't end well! lol
2nd attempt, much better:)
[QUOTE=AndysR;667367]Nice progress, I guess if it has been ported then that's one less thing you will need to worry about, it does match the gasket well :)[/QUOTE]
yea, just worried there might be problem with the engine if someone has already been fettling????
[QUOTE=JT;667369]yea, just worried there might be problem with the engine if someone has already been fettling????[/QUOTE]
What's the story behind the engine? Did you hear it running before you bought it/did it come from a source well known to you? Just because it's been ported doesn't necessarily mean you need to worry of course ;)
[QUOTE=AndysR;667374]What's the story behind the engine? Did you hear it running before you bought it/did it come from a source well known to you? Just because it's been ported doesn't necessarily mean you need to worry of course ;)[/QUOTE]
I'm sure it was a working engine, but we'll see soon enough
fingers crossed :)
[QUOTE=t5 pete;667386]Good progress is that franks old engine with the white manifold[/QUOTE]
I think he's still got his white manifold, and I don't think JT wants an engine with a bent rod. ;)
[QUOTE=stribo;668784]You won't get past me next year, I'll have more power, and more importantly better brakes. :lol:[/QUOTE]
I was just warming up when I passed you............sadly it was a 1 time deal!! :wallbash: lol
[QUOTE=AndysR;668785]Well done JT, hopefully it's got a good healthy pull on it when your out on track :)[/QUOTE]
we'll find out on the 21st!
not long to wait :scared:
[QUOTE=JT;668793]I was just warming up when I passed you............sadly it was a 1 time deal!! :wallbash: lol
we'll find out on the 21st!
not long to wait :scared:[/QUOTE]
Quality! Where are you racing?
[QUOTE=MoleT5-R;668854]Good luck for the 21st JT, if I wasn,t so far away I'll be there, why did I move to Wales from Sussex, Brands is a long old trot from here.[/QUOTE]
I would say so, sod that!! Lol
well, its all back in one piece, cant wait for Saturday at Brands
it might be wet too, which should add to the fun:)
lets see what happens this time..............
[QUOTE=AndysR;670611]Make sure you update us with a run down of the days events :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=M-R-P;670613]Nice to see it all back together mate :)
Will you have dash cameras etc?[/QUOTE]
if it lasts longer than the sighting laps, I'll put the camaras on!! lol
well, the car lives to fight another day:)
made it to Brands yesterday, but the conditions were awful !
the car on the other hand was behaving very well, we didn't have to get any tools out or even top up the fluids!! lol
I noise tested first, 102db limit...............I checked in at 100db, that was close!
followed by some very nervous sighting laps, bear in mind I was on R888's!,checking all temps and trying to get the power down to check boost levels.
all seemed well at this point.
4 runs followed........vids to follow
overall, a good day I thought.
Oil temps are much lower than when we did Trax, so the oil cooler is working well:)
good to see Judge and some other Volvo nutters there too. thanks for coming down:)
the car got the usual attention and I got the usual question......."is it a real touring car?" lol
big thanks to Sam for his help.
I think I need another RR session, to get the fueling sorted out, its a bit rich at the mo
then try a dry day.
maybe just maybe, I could be racing again next year:)
[QUOTE=stribo;667390]I think he's still got his white manifold, and I don't think JT wants an engine with a bent rod. ;)[/QUOTE]
i don't have a white fanimold, you got that back together quick jt
Good to see you and the car back in action, despite the weather I bet you enjoyed it. Car sounds great, roll on '14 when there maybe chance of a dry day or 2.. :)
Project 8 racing 2014 Calendar - Provisional
1. 26/27 April – Donington Park National
2. 24/25 May – Rockingham
3. 28 June – Cadwell Park
4. 19 July – Oulton Park International
5. 16/17 August – Brands Hatch GP
6. September / early October – TBC
7. 25/26 October – Snetterton 300
:)
[QUOTE=JT;673323]2014 Calendar - Provisional
1. 26/27 April – Donington Park National
2. 24/25 May – Rockingham
3. 28 June – Cadwell Park
4. 19 July – Oulton Park International
5. 16/17 August – Brands Hatch GP
6. September / early October – TBC
7. 25/26 October – Snetterton 300
:)[/QUOTE]
Is cadwell open track or club only
[QUOTE=stribo;673343]Is this track days, or competition racing?[/QUOTE]
Competition
[QUOTE=Biff;673347]Quite fancy oulton park.
What cars race with you? Am I expecting to much when I think of a 90's touring car revival?
Your car is epic btw.[/QUOTE]
Thanks
Mainly bloody beemers, but some other makes now and again :)
http://www.pbmwc.co.uk/P8RS/
[QUOTE=JT;673352]Competition
Thanks
Mainly bloody beemers, but some other makes now and again :)
http://www.pbmwc.co.uk/P8RS/[/QUOTE]
I'll try and get along to watch you at Brands
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;673358]I'll be up for a day out at Donny never been, pick me up Duane :)[/QUOTE]
your on the way so can do. Donny is a good spectator circuit as you can see most of the track in you get the right place in the infield
[QUOTE=Nealevo;673360]Me too...[/QUOTE]
your not lol
A bit more Rolling Road action today:)
needed to gain control of the boost levels, done by releasing all the preload on the actuator and changing the spring in the recirc valve
and tweek the fuel map,she was a bit rich.
So have gone from 1.5 bar to 1.27 bar of boost (1.3 is the max allowed in my race series)
but with a flick of a switch,1.4 bar:)
running a standard engine now, so 1.2 is really all I need.
1.2 bar
1.4 bar
[QUOTE=stribo;690763]Good figures, and nice smooth graphs, I don't suppose you've got the torque plot have you.[/QUOTE]
on graph 2 and 3, the dotted line:)
[QUOTE=JT;690768]on graph 2 and 3, the dotted line:)[/QUOTE]
Haha, I'd even worked out what torque you'd got before I asked the question, it's been a long day.;)
[QUOTE=JT;690760]A bit more Rolling Road action today:)
needed to gain control of the boost levels, done by releasing all the preload on the actuator and changing the spring in the recirc valve
and tweek the fuel map,she was a bit rich.
So have gone from 1.5 bar to 1.27 bar of boost (1.3 is the max allowed in my race series)
but with a flick of a switch,1.4 bar:)
running a standard engine now, so 1.2 is really all I need.
1.2 bar
1.4 bar
[/QUOTE]
The engine warranty is now void as you've upped the boost. :)
[QUOTE=Nealevo;690963]The engine warranty is now void as you've upped the boost. :)[/QUOTE]
I've dropped the boost, so I think that makes it an extended warranty? Pmsl
[QUOTE=JT;690967]I've dropped the boost, so I think that makes it an extended warranty? Pmsl[/QUOTE]
So it extended to 3 months or 3 miles then.:eclipsee_
I was given a few hours of "me" time today, so the question was:
A - wash the van
B - go and fettle with the race car
so off to the garage I went:)
A few small jobs, that needed doing:
adjust the handbrake, after nearly seeing the car roll off the trailer all by itself on Friday! :shockedbi
replace headlight protection, rather than use tape across them, I use an industrial type cling film, works a treat :)
Swapped the front 10mm universal fit spacers with 15mm hub centric ones.
then the big job........rear suspension set up???
the back of the car is very bouncy? If you push down on it and release it just keeps bouncing up and down!
so, off came the springs (520lbs) and were swapped for 450lbs,I then wound up the shocks to full hard, result.......no better:(
wound the shocks all the way soft (some 46 clicks later) and tried again, worse than ever
But when I tried the shocks 15 clicks from soft, some amount of success, its not as firm as the front, but maybe that's good?
I'll find out next Sunday, back to Brands we go again:)
But I have a question.........
while under the car I noticed my Delta link bushes are shot to bits!
obviously I would like uprated versions, but they are expensive, so I thought maybe even swapping them for new standard ones would be better?
If I can find them??? anyone???
and a quick search makes me think they are not easy to change either??? anyone had to change theirs???
cheers
edit: now found a standard bush:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/360684941721?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95&ff19=0
I've got a similar issue on my 850 when the dampers are cranked up to fullhard the car bounces around like a jelly fresh out of the mold. Like you I kept the front hard & softens the rear by about 30%. It's better but not ideal.
Can't speak for your set up by I know my shocks need a refurb (gaz gold coilovers with 20k on them) which should sort out the bump/reboundsl issue. Perhaps look at changing the shocks for newer units & see if that helps?
nice thread btw, enjoyed flicking through it
Cheers, Morgan
I have a similar setup, Hard front, but standard nirvomat springs with stiff dampers, tried the car with harder rear springs, but the car hopped about to much on the back.
[QUOTE=Shinsplintz 101;691239]I've got a similar issue on my 850 when the dampers are cranked up to fullhard the car bounces around like a jelly fresh out of the mold. Like you I kept the front hard & softens the rear by about 30%. It's better but not ideal.
Can't speak for your set up by I know my shocks need a refurb (gaz gold coilovers with 20k on them) which should sort out the bump/reboundsl issue. Perhaps look at changing the shocks for newer units & see if that helps?
nice thread btw, enjoyed flicking through it
Cheers, Morgan[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=claymore;691242]I have a similar setup, Hard front, but standard nirvomat springs with stiff dampers, tried the car with harder rear springs, but the car hopped about to much on the back.[/QUOTE]
cheers guys,I see we are all thinking the same way about spring rates/dampers, but what about the bushes on the rear???
[QUOTE=JT;691209]I was given a few hours of "me" time today, so the question was:
A - wash the van
B - go and fettle with the race car
so off to the garage I went:)
A few small jobs, that needed doing:
adjust the handbrake, after nearly seeing the car roll off the trailer all by itself on Friday! :shockedbi
replace headlight protection, rather than use tape across them, I use an industrial type cling film, works a treat :)
Swapped the front 10mm universal fit spacers with 15mm hub centric ones.
then the big job........rear suspension set up???
the back of the car is very bouncy? If you push down on it and release it just keeps bouncing up and down!
so, off came the springs (520lbs) and were swapped for 450lbs,I then wound up the shocks to full hard, result.......no better:(
wound the shocks all the way soft (some 46 clicks later) and tried again, worse than ever
But when I tried the shocks 15 clicks from soft, some amount of success, its not as firm as the front, but maybe that's good?
I'll find out next Sunday, back to Brands we go again:)
But I have a question.........
[COLOR="#FF0000"]while under the car I noticed my Delta link bushes are shot to bits![/COLOR]
obviously I would like uprated versions, but they are expensive, so I thought maybe even swapping them for new standard ones would be better?
[COLOR="#FF0000"]If I can find them??? anyone???[/COLOR]
and a quick search makes me think they are not easy to change either??? anyone had to change theirs???
cheers
edit: now found a standard bush:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/360684941721?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95&ff19=0[/QUOTE]
You added an edit I didn't see, but answered your question. :P
[QUOTE=claymore;691268]I think PFV sell a removal tool
http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9402[/QUOTE]
sounds like a nightmare:(
[QUOTE=stribo;691270]You added an edit I didn't see, but answered your question. :P[/QUOTE]
cheers mate:)
I know it is not in the same league, but I found running KONI yellows on the front of the 850and standard natural oil free Nivomats..(basically foobar'd ones) were fine for me, but I like a bit of tail happiness, so maybe a stiffer set up would be fun..
[QUOTE=stribo;691276]T5Pete doesn't seem to think so:
http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?51478-Project-rust-box-time-to-save-the-gul/page5[/QUOTE]
I'll have a look at that after Topgear :)
[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;691281]I know it is not in the same league, but I found running KONI yellows on the front of the 850and standard natural oil free Nivomats..(basically foobar'd ones) were fine for me, but I like a bit of tail happiness, so maybe a stiffer set up would be fun..[/QUOTE]
similar set up, stiffer front, softer rears :)
I'd love a set of KWs
not sure if anyone is still interested in this, after all I haven't cleaned it in ages!?! lol
Went for my final test before the season opener.
car was brilliant!
had a small oil leak, fixed over lunch
and timing my vids last night, matched my PB, which was good as I had the added weight of a passenger + seat.
happy days:)
next stop........Donington
[video=youtube_share;nT6MUv8SgVs]http://youtu.be/nT6MUv8SgVs[/video]
[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;692731]Big thanks for the invite.... It's One mean machine and the fact we had an oil leak was minor compared to some of the work going on in some garages...[/QUOTE]
cheers mate:)
hope you enjoyed it?
shame I spelt your name wrong on the Vid! :slap:
Glad you had a good day mate, was tempted to come down and watch, but the weather didn't look great, and watching isn't enough for me nowadays ;) Hope all goes well at Donny.
[QUOTE=Nealevo;692761]It must be that not quite standard engine i gave you.... Now without warranty :) when you at Donnington?[/QUOTE]
ha ha!!
26th April :)
[QUOTE=JT;692726]not sure if anyone is still interested in this, after all I haven't cleaned it in ages!?! lol
Went for my final test before the season opener.
car was brilliant!
had a small oil leak, fixed over lunch
and timing my vids last night, matched my PB, which was good as I had the added weight of a passenger + seat.
happy days:)
next stop........Donington
[video=youtube_share;nT6MUv8SgVs]http://youtu.be/nT6MUv8SgVs[/video][/QUOTE]
You car flys mate and that gearbox really makes a difference .no one could catch you and weldone .
[QUOTE=JT;693448]I could do with a new set of brake pads for the APs
any recommendations??[/QUOTE]
Don't get the same one's as fitted to my C70. ;) I've got a set of Ferodo DS2500s to go on, but can't tell you first hand what they're like yet. The Brembos on the R perform well.
[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;694148]Standard is best... Why don't you shave a bit off under the Volvo logo under the bumper if you want to increase air flow..[/QUOTE]
they did have a moan up about people cutting holes in bumpers and bonnets
its supposed to retain its original silhouette, but I'll have a look anyway:)
Just caught up, don't mind the grille but needs to have the slash fitted. You should go with the original however as it looks better than the meshed version :)
If you want a bit better air flow why not hollow out the central support behind the grille?
Brake pads look dreadful... Lol
replacement pads are on their way:)
I'm told these are more suited to racing and the ones I had are more general purpose??
cant wait, these are gonna be good:)
[QUOTE=JT;696325]Not entirely sure my pads should look like this!!! :uglyhamme
[/QUOTE]
bloody hell, i think we found the reason your lap times are slow!!!! Ha ha ha (just a joke, don't hurt me)
[QUOTE=Nealevo;696576]bloody hell, i think we found the reason your lap times are slow!!!! Ha ha ha (just a joke, don't hurt me)[/QUOTE]
your are right, breaking has not been my strong point,not that I have any! lol
[QUOTE=T5frankie;696578]this looks great
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=theflyingbrick;696584]I like the mesh with the slash tbh[/QUOTE]
Finally:)
[QUOTE=stribo;696597]That's probably how mine will look when I change them. :D[/QUOTE]
I think yours will be beyond this! lol
[QUOTE=JT;696603]your are right, breaking has not been my strong point,not that I have any! lol
Finally:)
I think yours will be beyond this! lol[/QUOTE]
I'll post the pics up when I change them, what race pads have you gone for, I'm fitting DS2500s, but obviously mine spends more time on the road.
[QUOTE=JT;696609]ds3000
mine doesnt spend anytime on the road!
only lasts long enough for a few laps! lol[/QUOTE]
TBF you're not getting any younger, you'll probably only last a few laps yourself. :P
[QUOTE=JT;696757]correct[/QUOTE]
Had them on my V70r and they absolutely knackered my Ap discs within 1500 miles and the break dust was as hard as concrete baked onto my alloys.
But boy did it stop..
[QUOTE=Wobbly Dave;696759]Should be good - 4 pot calipers?[/QUOTE]
yes 4 pots
[QUOTE=siamblue;696763]Had them on my V70r and they absolutely knackered my Ap discs within 1500 miles and the break dust was as hard as concrete baked onto my alloys.
But boy did it stop..[/QUOTE]
I'm lucky if I manage 10 miles
but I'm liking your comment:)
[QUOTE=JT;699690]kit no: CP5200-1005 with grooved discs:)[/QUOTE]
Nice brakes !! With Pegasus Replica and no spacers ?
Your tyres are R888 225/45 R17 ?
[QUOTE=JT;696733]lets see how long these last :)
[/QUOTE]
How can brake discs be for race use only, surely race pads will be superior and be exceptional on the road?
[QUOTE=JamesT5;699712]How can brake discs be for race use only, surely race pads will be superior and be exceptional on the road?[/QUOTE]
Because they need to be hot to work properly, and won't get to their working temperature in normal day to day driving.
[QUOTE=Marsouille;699711]Nice brakes !! With Pegasus Replica and no spacers ?
Your tyres are R888 225/45 R17 ?[/QUOTE]
Wheels are Titans, I dont need to run spacers with the brakes, but I do have 15mm spacers
215/45/17
[QUOTE=JT;699718]Wheels are Titans, I dont need to run spacers with the brakes, but I do have 15mm spacers[/QUOTE]
Yes, Titans :slap:
[QUOTE=JT;699718]215/45/17[/QUOTE]
Same size as my Federal 595 RS-R but I think to go on 235/40.
Do you know the weight of your car ?
:ready2go:
100 kg if you must know and going down all the time:)
Yes I'm on the diet coke, although I'm not convinced it's any better than the beer?? Lol
Good luck with your racing this year its nice to see someone out there in a Volvo on a private budget giving it a go, if the DS3000 don't hack it try the UNO's, I found them better and yes we all know there are better racing pads out there but they are normally double if not more to buy!
I don't do much on the Volvo forums now except on T5D5 were I sometimes quote now and then lol :blahblah:
http://www.ferodoracing.com/products/car-racing/racing-brake-pads/dsuno/
[QUOTE=Engineer;699893]Good luck with your racing this year its nice to see someone out there in a Volvo on a private budget giving it a go, if the DS3000 don't hack it try the UNO's, I found them better and yes we all know there are better racing pads out there but they are normally double if not more to buy!
I don't do much on the Volvo forums now except on T5D5 were I sometimes quote now and then lol :blahblah:
http://www.ferodoracing.com/products/car-racing/racing-brake-pads/dsuno/[/QUOTE]
cheers
seems like ages ago we we're at the track? lol
[QUOTE=p fandango;699910]U racing in the toyo tyres racing saloons class?[/QUOTE]
yes mate
only been away from here for a week and have nearly 1000 new posts to read!!! wtf??? lol
anyway, just a little bump for Donny on the 26th
car is all stickered up with club sponsors and ready to go.
hope to see some of you there!:)
update................
where to start?
A weekend at Donington Park:)
What a track!! so nice to drive a track I've not been to before.
arrived about 9:30 Friday morning, straight into driver briefing,20 minutes later, out on track!
Friday was a trackday, giving me a chance to learn the circuit which proved to be invaluable.
The weather was a big part this weekend, wet to dry to wet to dry..........
overall very pleased with Friday, a few 'offs' and many lock ups as I got used to the new pads :)
Raceday:
Woke up to find it raining again:(
set up camp at the track and waited for ( pedro to stop fitting go-pros to my car! lol ) qually.......a nervous moment as I had not raced in the wet before, but would Fridays practice pay off???
Lets hope the Go-Pros worked?
I know they didn't for the first race, as I forgot to press the magic button:(
but my camera, worked for once, so once we have sorted out who has what footage, there should be some vids up soon.
A massive thanks again to Sam, who so far this weekend has had about 6 hours sleep! I couldn't do it without you mate :B_thumb:
and to Pedro,Jamest5r and Nealevo for coming along not only to watch, but the guys also got their hands dirty too when I needed it most!
cheers guys, I can't thank you enough :worship:
JT
[QUOTE=p fandango;706745]video from race 2
[video=vimeo;93036576]https://vimeo.com/93036576[video][/QUOTE]
Camera angles turned out well! Just need to remember where we put them for next time!
Shame you need a new windscreen John, would hate to "forget" to put that big yellow number back on the new one...
[QUOTE=JT's Mechanic;706765]Camera angles turned out well! Just need to remember where we put them for next time![/QUOTE]
The rear facing one was too low, lovely video of his parcel shelve
well as we're putting the sessions up in the wrong order............here is race 1
using my inferior camera:(
[video=youtube_share;tcfoVHw3SNc]http://youtu.be/tcfoVHw3SNc[/video]
It looks like you've entered the BMW series by mistake ;) craner curves look fun, and I'd have braked later for the last chicane, though not with my pads. :lol: Looks like a great day, and glad the car survived uinscathed.
[QUOTE=p fandango;706883]your camera can't be that bad, i've seen it used to capture racing footage before
[/QUOTE]
The strangest coincidence is he was driving that Lotus, perhaps that's why he won't get rid of his camera, they have history. ;)
[QUOTE=stribo;706884]The strangest coincidence is he was driving that Lotus, perhaps that's why he won't get rid of his camera, they have history. ;)[/QUOTE]
i'd never seen a Betamax camcorder before
[QUOTE=p fandango;706893]i'd never seen a Betamax camcorder before[/QUOTE]
By the time your car is on the road the go-pro's will be as well known as the Betamax's now are ;)
[QUOTE=stribo;706863]It looks like you've entered the BMW series by mistake ;) craner curves look fun, and I'd have braked later for the last chicane, though not with my pads. :lol: Looks like a great day, and [COLOR="#FF0000"]glad the car survived uinscathed[/COLOR].[/QUOTE]
not quite.......
[QUOTE=JT;707915]not quite.......
[/QUOTE]
O.K., but a bit of gravel rash is a lot better than the failure you had at Trax. ;) You should let me take it out, I can drive a car without brakes. :hidesbehi
gravel rash????
needs a new bumper and splitter!! lol
but yea, better than trax:)
as for you "taking it out",as soon as it lets me down once more, you can do what you like!! lol
[QUOTE=JT;707930][COLOR="#FF0000"]gravel rash[/COLOR]????
needs a new bumper and splitter!! lol
but yea, better than trax:)
as for you "taking it out",as soon as it lets me down once more, you can do what you like!! lol[/QUOTE]
Sorry only saw the picture on my phone, didn't look too bad, looks worse on my laptop, but at least it's only cosmetic, if you know what I mean. ;)
After my adventures at Donny, I have repaired the front bumper
Thanks to TC for yet another splitter:)
Also fitted rear coilovers, so not only do I have adjustable ride height ( meaning the car can now be corner weighted )
its also a lot lower at the back and I have now swapped the IPD ARB back to a standard one, I have almost eliminated all the bounce in the rear.
All I have left to do is fit a bulkhead to seal off the boot, to keep the scrutineers happy.
Looking forward to Oulton Park in 2 weeks time, to see if I can get any closer to the beemers.
http://www.oultonpark.co.uk/calendar/2014/july/msvr.aspx
they are E36 3ltr M3's running 200KG+ lighter than me :(
Oh and they are better drivers than me!! :eclipsee_
thought I would get that in before Stribo gets on his soap box again! lol
[QUOTE=JT;722685]thought I would get that in before Stribo gets on his soap box again! lol[/QUOTE]
i think you should do what that bloke at Donny suggested, get somebody else to drive it lol
who said that? I don't remember.....or maybe I just blocked it out?! lol
anyway, where's the fun in that? let someone else have all the fun?? I don't ££££ing think so!! :B_thumb:
[QUOTE=JT;722705]who said that? I don't remember.....or maybe I just blocked it out?! lol
anyway, where's the fun in that? let someone else have all the fun?? I don't ££££ing think so!! :B_thumb:[/QUOTE]
& you say i've got a 5h1t memory. Not sure who he was, but said you've built a quick car but needs a better driver & suggested you let someone else race it lol
[QUOTE=JT;722677]nothing, it will sit in the garage till I'm confident I don't need it:)[/QUOTE]
When you're confident you don't need it, can I have first dibs?
[QUOTE=JT;722685]they are E36 3ltr M3's running 200KG+ lighter than me :(
Oh and they are better drivers than me!! :eclipsee_
[COLOR="#FF0000"]thought I would get that in before Stribo gets on his soap box again[/COLOR]! lol[/QUOTE]
I'd never do that mate, at least you're getting out there and doing it, it's easy to critisise from the comfort and safety of a sofa. That being said, if you do need a reserve driver..................;)
[QUOTE=p fandango;722708]& you say i've got a 5h1t memory. Not sure who he was, but said you've built a quick car but needs a better driver & suggested you let someone else race it lol[/QUOTE]
I remember that conversation lol :)
[QUOTE=p fandango;722708]& you say i've got a 5h1t memory. Not sure who he was, but said you've built a quick car but needs a better driver & suggested you let someone else race it lol[/QUOTE]
that was someone on youtube!!
well a small update ( not that anyone is interested, lol )
bulkhead in development, not finished, but not far away:)
and you can just about see it through the windscreen, if you can ignore the lightsaber! lol
still need to seal it all up, but very happy with it so far:)
[QUOTE=claymore;724076]I have a question, how have you managed to do two seasons without a rear bulkhead?[/QUOTE]
I've only been pulled up on this twice
Castle Combe and Donny.
As the swirl pot is fitted with the proper fuel connections,
it should be fine, but some scrutineers, see it as a risk having the
pot in the same compartment as the driver.
So get it done and there's no questions
[QUOTE=JT;724379]Lamda light is on
car ticking over at 1200 rpm
any ideas? can anyone pinpoint that before I go ripping it apart?????[/QUOTE]
The fast idle could be caused be an air leak.
[QUOTE=JT;725312]well I have found some encouraging stats from the weekend...........:)
[/QUOTE]
well that makes good reading and impressive numbers,
so you are fast on the straight bits, now just practice the important bits in-between
but congrats and sorry i couldn't make it
i tried something different at Oulton & hooked up a 3D set-up for filming, obviously you'll need a 3Dtv that can be hooked up to your computer to watch it (you'll have to manually turn the 3d on & select side-by-side)
[video=vimeo;101249616]https://vimeo.com/101249616[/video]
[QUOTE=JT;725312]well I have found some encouraging stats from the weekend...........:)
[/QUOTE]
What are the 2 cars that are quicker than you down the straights?
I'm surprised they have a higher straight line speed than you, considering the similar bhp but far more torque you have. Unless its simply the advantage of rwd traction out of the corner that leads onto the straight, or the speed they are carrying through the corners onto it.
[QUOTE=LiamT4;725367]I'm surprised they have a higher straight line speed than you, considering the similar bhp but far more torque you have. Unless its simply the advantage of rwd traction out of the corner that leads onto the straight, or the speed they are carrying through the corners onto it.[/QUOTE]
he's got the wrong gearbox pmsl
[QUOTE=LiamT4;725367]I'm surprised they have a higher straight line speed than you, considering the similar bhp but far more torque you have. Unless its simply the advantage of rwd traction out of the corner that leads onto the straight, or the speed they are carrying through the corners onto it.[/QUOTE]
In those conditions it was more luck than anything! Lol
slight change to the calendar:)
was:
2014 P8R
26/27 April – Donington Park National
24/25 May – Rockingham
28 June – Cadwell Park
19 July – Oulton Park International
16/17 August – Brands Hatch GP
6 September – Silverstone Nat
25/26 October – Snetterton 300
now:
2014 P8R
26/27 April – Donington Park National
24/25 May – Rockingham
28 June – Cadwell Park
19 July – Oulton Park International
16/17 August – Brands Hatch GP
[COLOR="#FF0000"]20 September – Silverstone GP[/COLOR]
25/26 October – Snetterton 300
:B_steerin
[QUOTE=WOODY T5;729994]Wot u done now?[/QUOTE] I tried a new mod.........using the rear end of an M5
[QUOTE=Nealevo;730000]WTF......its only qualifying[/QUOTE] Q and 2 races, this was R2
[QUOTE=claymore;730001]FFS, what happened? where's the video?[/QUOTE] front camera failed! I'm gutted as it was all action today
[QUOTE=stribo;730002]Whoops, you really need better brakes. ;)[/QUOTE] I'll let you source something better than APs ! lol
[QUOTE=V70 Graham;730009]Looks like a Marshall sized dent ![/QUOTE] Id be hanging up the overalls for good if I did that
on the plus side, I did beat my PB by 3 secs!! :B_steerin
[QUOTE=stribo;730015]So, what does the other car look like?[/QUOTE]
The M5 got off quite lightly
he has a white bumper with some blue strips on it and a broken rear light
[QUOTE=JT;730016]The M5 got off quite lightly
he has a white bumper with some blue strips on it and a broken rear light[/QUOTE]
so you could say, the Messerschmitt won :)
[QUOTE=JT;730011]
Id be hanging up the overalls for good if I did that
on the plus side, I did beat my PB by 3 secs!! :B_steerin[/QUOTE]
As an occasional marshal, it pleases me that we're not on the targeting radar :)
Conrgrats on the PB!
As for better brakes than APs, how'd the M5 do? Looks like a fair amount of stopping power was applied.
Not sure on the m5s brakes, but it's something I need
to look at, as I was snatching brakes most of the day
My rear camera did work and you can hear all the lock ups.
If anyone is interested in looking at the rear view, I'll upload them, otherwise I won't bother,
It's a bit odd watching it all from the rear! Lol
[QUOTE=JT;730045]Not sure on the m5s brakes, but it's something I need
to look at, as I was snatching brakes most of the day
My rear camera did work and you can hear all the lock ups.
If anyone is interested in looking at the rear view, I'll upload them, otherwise I won't bother,
It's a bit odd watching it all from the rear! Lol[/QUOTE]
Are you still running with a servo? A servo less setup would give you better control, though they'll be harder work.
[QUOTE=stribo;730073]Are you still running with a servo? A servo less setup would give you better control, though they'll be harder work.[/QUOTE]
well its an idea........
a few pics from yesterday
and pics from today
need to get the IC tested somehow??
If your compressor has a regulator on it, just wind it right down and slowly increase the pressure back up till you are holding a little more pressure than the car would be expected to generate, this is what I knocked up recently to test mine.
[QUOTE=JT;733633]Supporting the Britcar on the full GP circuit:)
http://www.britcar24hr.co.uk/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Timetable-1.pdf[/QUOTE]
your organisers are really rotten to us drag races as the dates always seem to clash, but I will get to see you race one day, how much does it cost just to enter the championship JT ?? not including getting and building the car and maintaining it.
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;733689]your organisers are really rotten to us drag races as the dates always seem to clash, but I will get to see you race one day, how much does it cost just to enter the championship JT ?? not including getting and building the car and maintaining it.[/QUOTE]
A whopping £100 to join Project 8!!!
Then race entry fees, approx £300
:)
They're all having you on the brakes, is there anything you can do to improve them?, and I think it might be an idea to do all your boost joints like this:
[QUOTE=stribo;739790]Looks like you've got quite a bit of understeer through Luffield in that second pic, was that when you had you rear suspension set wrong?[/QUOTE]
yea, way to soft on the rear, but we also made a pressure adjustment for race 2, which seemed to improve things.
[QUOTE=claymore;739795]They're all having you on the brakes, is there anything you can do to improve them?, and I think it might be an idea to do all your boost joints like this:
[/QUOTE]
its here I'm having the problem
but I think the problem is the hose is too short, cant get a decent amount of purchase of the clamp:(
But I'm liking your idea:)
as for the brakes........................????
if I push them too hard, they seem to over heat and lock up, but if I don't push, I lose time:(
I ruined a set of DS3000 pads in only a couple of trackdays, a few laps at Donny and Brands GP??
need to move some weight rearwards, and make use of the s60r brakes that will be going on over winter:)
[QUOTE=JT;739814]need to move some weight rearwards, and make use of the s60r brakes that will be going on over winter:)[/QUOTE]
what about putting the radiator in the boot? lol
well its been a while, but with nearly 4000 views since the last post, I'm guessing someone is interested? :)
so, here we go 2015 season starts here:
http://www.brandshatch.co.uk/calendar/2015/may/bh-msvr.aspx
and there will be not 1, but 2 volvos on the grid!!!:banana:
[QUOTE=JT;771892]Im taking a tow rope so the other 850 can pull me along:lol:[/QUOTE]
If you want, we'll bring the XC90, I can drag you out of the boonies, then beat you around the track too. :P
[QUOTE=Redbrick;771894]JT looks like you are running brake cooling ducting - got any more pics of the set up?[/QUOTE]
I'll be working on the car tomorrow, will get some pics up then :)
cooling ducts:
Now I'm not convinced on these yet, but I have had a brake issue on the front right, so the left side has been doing all the work.
hopefully that's all sorted now.
Project 8 racing don't like us drilling or cutting holes in the bumpers to gain airflow for what ever reason.
So having removed the fog lights, I am making use of the cut-out left behind in the R bumper.
flexible ducting goes up over the subframe and down onto the wishbone.
I have ordered something like this to go on the back of the bumper to tidy up the front part, but need to possibly make something where the cold air goes towards the disc.
Brake cooling ducts:
Now I 'm not convinced on these yet, I have been having a brake issue on the front right, so the leftside has been doing all the work.
Hopefully this is sorted now and should see some gains from that.
As Project 8 do like us cutting or drilling holes in our front bumpers, for what ever reason, I am making use of the holes left from the fog lights.
Flexible ducting goes up and over the subframe and down onto the wishbone.
I have ordered something like this, to go on the back of the bumper, to tidy things up at the front, but need to come up with something to get the air nearer the discs.
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;772121]Beats dumping it in the kitty litter to cool them down :)[/QUOTE]
I'm gonna book a trackday and let you drive......lets see how you get on
lol
[QUOTE=JT;772125]I'm gonna book a trackday and let you drive......lets see how you get on
lol[/QUOTE]
Deal and I'll put L plates on the artic see how you do :)
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;772172]16000kg compared to 1300kg. minimum weight at 56mph......[/QUOTE]
I've seen those things race round Brands, admittedly without a load, maybe you should bring it to a trackday?? :B_steerin
PS, don't forget to vote:
http://www.ipdusa.com/blogs/397/ipd-photo-contest-2015
ok, 3000 views since the last post, so your still interested?! lol
during qually at my last meeting, I managed to beat my PB by over a second, well pleased with that, but still found myself quite far down the grid. 16th IIRC.
But the last race didn't go to plan...................
Scrutineers said the wheel was loose and eventually snapped all 5 studs off. Thankfully at a slow point on the circuit.
so, damage:
and as the brake disc went along the floor.......
even managed to damage the rear tow loop, dragging the car out of the kitty.
so.....
repair the bumper, again!
new TC splitter, again!
new wing, again!
new studs,
new brake discs,
new pads,
and its nearly ready.
whats left of Ferodo DS3000 after only 2hrs of track time!!
And noticed the rear tyres are only wearing on the inside half of the tyre. Too much camber, so removed the plates.
Just need to bleed the brakes and fit some decals and we're good to go........................straight to the next kitty litter, no doubt lol
next event:
http://www.brandshatch.co.uk/calendar/2015/august/lotus-festival.aspx
thanks for reading/looking
JT
[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;778501]Are you back at Brands??[/QUOTE]
Yes according to the link Saturday's qualifying, Sunday's race day. We'll be there on the Sunday. :D
[QUOTE=stribo;778499]Are you there the whole weekend?[/QUOTE]
99% of the time, we only race on Saturdays. as soon as the timetable is available, I'll put a link up.
[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;778501]Are you back at Brands??[/QUOTE]
yes on the GP circuit! suits the car a bit better :)
[QUOTE=claymore;778508]what did you do with the broken splitter, I suppose you threw it out :([/QUOTE]
yes mate, sorry
doesn't look that bad in this pic, but if you go back to the first pick, its completely folded under the car :(
It was in about 6 bits.
[QUOTE=AAnickmac;780556]Excellent. I'll be there. Booked off work from 13th till 4th sept. So I'm coming. [/QUOTE]
I saw you on the M25 on the way back from watching JT last time, slowed down , pulled along side, started waving like a mad thing, and you totally ignored me. :(
[QUOTE=stribo;780577]I saw you on the M25 on the way back from watching JT last time, slowed down , pulled along side, started waving like a mad thing, and you totally ignored me. :([/QUOTE]
Were you in the mx5, that'd explain it lol
I'll be there
[QUOTE=AAnickmac;780556]Excellent. I'll be there. Booked off work from 13th till 4th sept. So I'm coming. 😀📷[/QUOTE]
As its a lotus show they might need you to take the works van lol
FFS! well controlled there
some very dodgy lines from the other cars...mainly BMWs :) great to see the way your car pulled away from the NA cars when you opened it up
A good watch apart from the end :(
Aw ££££ bud... you where going really well until that corner. Did it lock up under braking or did something cause it to lock up? (ie did the wheel come off before or during the off?)
Jesus Christ, I'm interested to know the true reason. No contact obviously.
Couldn't agree more with the arm waving moment when the new driver in the bmw wouldn't pull over.
Sounding lovely, looked great and until the obvious some good driving jt.
[QUOTE=claymore;781889]Did it snap all the studs again?[/QUOTE]
yes
[QUOTE=Tomcat;781937]Aw ££££ bud... you where going really well until that corner. Did it lock up under braking or did something cause it to lock up? (ie did the wheel come off before or during the off?)[/QUOTE]
as above
[QUOTE=stribo;781938]Stop resting your left hand on the gear lever. :P (I noticed I was doing that when I was going around Silverstone lol )[/QUOTE]
only while waiting for the bm to pass
ok so whats the verdict??
All I have changed is the wheels, Titans off,Volans on.
so why all of a sudden am I losing wheels???
Its been suggested the nuts dont fit the wheels correctly and are coming loose, but they worked fine on the Titans???
maybe that the Volans are 7 spoke, instead of 5, so less cooling??
Im getting mixed views about the causes, but it has to be fixed permanently, so I am safe,the marshalls are safe and my wallet can stay closed for a while.
As I am now running out of wheels and tyres, I will be needing replacements,so will be looking at getting some 18s. can anyone see any problems with those, before I have any more accidents????
thanks in advance for any sensible comments ;)
Don't take this the wrong way but could you have found the limit that volvo wheel studs will take ?
As you are pushing the car into the corners it puts load on the wheel studs and you mite have found the limit of what loading they can take.
[QUOTE=oblark;782284]Don't take this the wrong way but could you have found the limit that volvo wheel studs will take ?
As you are pushing the car into the corners it puts load on the wheel studs and you mite have found the limit of what loading they can take.[/QUOTE]
Thats a new view on it!
I'm using a stud conversion, but your question still stands.
1 of our dutch friends races with the same studs without problems.
[QUOTE=claymore;782285]Would it be possible to drill 3 studs on either side and put something like R clips through them?[/QUOTE]
I did think along those lines, but the nuts dont come off, just loosen enough for the wheel to move back and forth under braking/acceleration which then snaps the studs off.
[QUOTE=JT;782287]but the nuts dont come off, just loosen enough for the wheel to move back and forth under braking/acceleration which then snaps the studs off.[/QUOTE]
Now that interesting.
I would have thought as you brake the brakes/wheels get hot, as the wheel gets hot it expaneds, so if the wheel nuts are tight and the wheel expanding I'd would have thougth that it would have made the wheel nuts grip the wheel tighter.
Or I'm I talking ££££££££ :)
[QUOTE=oblark;782289]Now that interesting.
I would have thought as you brake the brakes/wheels get hot, as the wheel gets hot it expaneds, so if the wheel nuts are tight and the wheel expanding I'd would have thougth that it would have made the wheel nuts grip the wheel tighter.
Or I'm I talking ££££££££ :)[/QUOTE]
the studs can expand too. Titanium expands a bit less than steel although not by much. Stronger though so might not snap when loose..!
bit of info here http://www.crashforensics.com/wheelandhubfailures.cfm
It mentions under tightening & surface condition on the wheels (paint) can be a cause of studs/bolts failing. Also says overtighening can over stress the bolts, so when you come to a hard corner/heavy the bolts pass their limit
If you haven't changed the torque you tighten them up by, it seems to say the Volans are causing it??
[QUOTE=JT;782278]ok so whats the verdict??
All I have changed is the wheels, Titans off,Volans on.
so why all of a sudden am I losing wheels???
Its been suggested the nuts dont fit the wheels correctly and are coming loose, but they worked fine on the Titans???
maybe that the Volans are 7 spoke, instead of 5, so less cooling??
Im getting mixed views about the causes, but it has to be fixed permanently, so I am safe,the marshalls are safe and my wallet can stay closed for a while.
As I am now running out of wheels and tyres, I will be needing replacements,so will be looking at getting some 18s. can anyone see any problems with those, before I have any more accidents????
thanks in advance for any sensible comments ;)[/QUOTE]
Well it's pretty effing obvious....
Did the Titans fall off???.......No
Did the Volans fall off???......Yes
Erm your choice with what you put on next :)
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;782294]the studs can expand too. Titanium expands a bit less than steel although not by much. Stronger though so might not snap when loose..!
bit of info here http://www.crashforensics.com/wheelandhubfailures.cfm
It mentions under tightening & surface condition on the wheels (paint) can be a cause of studs/bolts failing. Also says overtighening can over stress the bolts, so when you come to a hard corner/heavy the bolts pass their limit
If you haven't changed the torque you tighten them up by, it seems to say the Volans are causing it??[/QUOTE]
nice work :)
We did increase the torque setting from 110 to 130 as a precaution, obviously did work.
But can agree on the thickness of paint. There seemed to be lots of it flaking off from the wheels that departed the car.
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;782296]Well it's pretty effing obvious....
Did the Titans fall off???.......No
Did the Volans fall off???......Yes
Erm your choice with what you put on next :)[/QUOTE]
I thought you were quiet!! lol
[QUOTE=JT;782298]nice work :)
We did increase the torque setting from 110 to 130 as a precaution, obviously did work.
But can agree on the thickness of paint. There seemed to be lots of it flaking off from the wheels that departed the car.[/QUOTE]
130 Nm or ft lb? the link below says 80 ft lb. That is just something pulled off the net for road cars though
http://www.discounttire.com/infoCenter/infoWheelTorque.html#volvo
At work we torque to about 70% of the yielding stress of the bolts (flanged joints for example). If there are any leaks the lads like to tighten more to stop the gas/steam/oil whatever pissing out, hard to convince them otherwise. If the gasket/sealing surfaces are wrong then even huge torque values won't help and can damage the bolts even
Not saying your torque values are wrong by any means just thinking out loud
//edit
don't want to bore the ££££ out of everyone about bolts but here is a torque table showing 105 ft lb is 70% of yield for 1/2" or 12 mm bolts (dry, without lube :))
https://www.fastenal.com/content/feds/pdf/Torque-Tension%20Chart%20for%20B7.pdf
So 130 ft lb is about 90% of yield.....& 140+ ft lb would be around the point where the bolt starts to yield (not snap, just that is the point where damage should start)
This is industrial stuff nowt to do with cars really but there it is anyway.
Could have a point there, Jamesy.
If the bolt or stud is already near yield at rest, then surely as soon as you show it a fast corner the pressures on that bolt will multiply exponentially, causing them to stretch or snap.
If they are stretching, then the wheel will rattle loose, like in this case.
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;782319]Could have a point there, Jamesy.
If the bolt or stud is already near yield at rest, then surely as soon as you show it a fast corner the pressures on that bolt will multiply exponentially, causing them to stretch or snap.
If they are stretching, then the wheel will rattle loose, like in this case.[/QUOTE]
Yes mate I guess that is where I was going with that one.....nipped up nice & tight, embarrass a few BMWs then 'ping' x5. Could be wrong like just thinking out loud. The effect is worse with lube also (e.g. copper slip) but don't want to start that argument again....tightening torque should/can be reduced IF lube is used.
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;782322]Yes mate I guess that is where I was going with that one.....nipped up nice & tight, embarrass a few BMWs then 'ping' x5. Could be wrong like just thinking out loud. The effect is worse with lube also (e.g. copper slip) but don't want to start that argument again....tightening torque should/can be reduced IF lube is used.[/QUOTE]
Where did I leave that tin opener...? ;)
well, 8000 views since the last post.........someone is reading it?? own up?? lol
So after brands, I dumped it in the garage and walked off. so from this :
to this:
I finally got back to the garage over the weekend to remind myself how much work I have ahead.
2 Wings for a start:
then all sorts of stuff underneath, brake calipers, brake discs, droplinks, wishbones, alloys, tyres, hub, etc etc
and just to rub it in, the tyres and brakes only had 4 laps on them :(
Going to try and empty out all the gravel from the engine bay and see if the engine is ok, then strip it down and start again..........
[QUOTE=Nealevo;796676]It's not much but I have a volan alloy wheel of you need....... Well it's somewhere at work![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the offer, but I've not had much luck on volans! lol
quite fancy the Team dynamic Imolas
[QUOTE=Nealevo;796676]It's not much but I have a volan alloy wheel of you need....... Well it's somewhere at work![/QUOTE]
Well I'll have your spare 2 Volans then!!!
[QUOTE=Nealevo;796716]I have some 18" jag wheels, o wait a min you already stole those[/QUOTE]
Not sure about going to 18s now, having looked at Johans set up and the mods he's had to make to run 18s, Im thinking I might stay with 17s.
[QUOTE=Nealevo;796717]Well I'll have your spare 2 Volans then!!![/QUOTE]
out of 8 volans, I think I've only trashed 4, so your welcome to whats left :)
Post 796940 by Tim Williams on 2016-02-20 21:04:09
I have front hubs and wheel bearings if you want any.
I had it once on track where the wheels had been painted on the inner face and that caused them to come loose. Also I'm not sure what studs/ bolts you're using but standard Volvo M12 bolts will start to stretch when hot if they have ever been torqued up to 130Nm or more. With new Volvo bolts 115Nm seems a happy medium on track.
I've since changed to Titanium bolts but haven't don't enough testing to give worthwhile feedback.
I have been using a stud conversion kit from MPRE for a while without any problems, until I put the Volans on.
Thanks for the offer of parts, I'll get it stripped down to find out what I need.
Got a couple of hours in the garage today
removed most of the damaged front left and replaced with standard parts, so I have 4 wheels pointing roughly in the right direction, at least I can move it now
next step is head off as there is no compression on any of the cylinders.
[QUOTE=JT;799322]Oh did i mention the bent sub frame and knackered steering rack??[/QUOTE]
i've got a subframe & steering rack that'll be going in the bin in less you want them
[QUOTE=p fandango;799324]i've got a subframe & steering rack that'll be going in the bin in less you want them[/QUOTE]
I have a spare sub frame and rack, but I'll have your subframe bushes
[QUOTE=JT;799326]I have a spare sub frame and rack, but I'll have your subframe bushes[/QUOTE]
you bloody well won't, you sure you don't want them just they'll only go the scrap man when we move. Can bring it down when i visit with the Phantom ;)
as feared, removed the head today to fine all inlet valves have had a chat with the pistons, hence no compression.
looks like its detonated on all 5 too....
ok, just swap the head??
nooo.........head bolt snapped, so the block is gone too......ffs
[QUOTE=JT;799359]as feared, removed the head today to fine all inlet valves have had a chat with the pistons, hence no compression.
looks like its detonated on all 5 too....
ok, just swap the head??
nooo.........head bolt snapped, so the block is gone too......ffs
[/QUOTE]
I snapped a head bolt like that, fortunately I managed to get a socket down the hole and onto the top of the broken piece and wound it out then retrieved with a magnetic tool.
Post 799364 by Tim Williams on 2016-04-10 19:23:35
You did a good job... I have a N/S/F hub but not a wishbone. What gave you the conclusion that it's been detonating?
I've always managed to get out broken head bolts out from these engines without removing the engine or damaging the block with straight fluted easy outs and guides. They can be hard to do and if it's tried and failed then it's very unlikely to be able to be done.
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;799362]I snapped a head bolt like that, fortunately I managed to get a socket down the hole and onto the top of the broken piece and wound it out then retrieved with a magnetic tool.[/QUOTE]
thats interesting , as I did manage to shift if before it snapped, so maybe the block can be saved.
[QUOTE=Tim Williams;799364]You did a good job... I have a N/S/F hub but not a wishbone. What gave you the conclusion that it's been detonating?
I've always managed to get out broken head bolts out from these engines without removing the engine or damaging the block with straight fluted easy outs and guides. They can be hard to do and if it's tried and failed then it's very unlikely to be able to be done.[/QUOTE]
detonation - the state of the exhaust valves and the carbon on most of the parts, the last engines Ive taken apart have not looked like that.
I dont suppose you have a link for these "easy outs" do you ? lol
[QUOTE=Harvey;799371]Hi have some like these. They work for me.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=222057036015&alt=web[/QUOTE]
That's a nice set Harvey and you can work them back and forth to ease the stud out gently by the looks of them, unlike the stanley proto ones I currently use, I can see a set of these getting used on Tomcats old engine which has a snapped head stud.
[QUOTE=JT;799572]Kit Arrived today, but there are no instructions?!? doh![/QUOTE]
Personally I use the smallest stud extractor I can then increase in size until you get lucky - drill a hole then put the stud extractor in, which will find purchase by turning in the opposite direction to that needed to tighten the head bolt
As above, a guide will help (something cylindrical with a hole to centralise the drill bit & stud extractor on the damaged section)
[QUOTE=claymore;799587]Nice one, so how do you use them?[/QUOTE]
drop the guide into the relevant hole, drill a pilot hole through the guide into the snapped bolt
drift the extraction bar into the pilot hole, add extraction nut to the bar and wind out
absolute piece of cake!!
[QUOTE=JT;799588]drop the guide into the relevant hole, drill a pilot hole through the guide into the snapped bolt
drift the extraction bar into the pilot hole, add extraction nut to the bar and wind out
absolute piece of cake!!
[/QUOTE]
Was the swarf from the drilling a problem?
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;799596]Was the swarf from the drilling a problem?[/QUOTE]
The guide helps to keep the swarf in, but worth having a magnet to hand, just in case
[QUOTE=stribo;799663]Are you sticking with a pre ME7 head, or going for a ME7 with VVT delete?[/QUOTE]
sticking with the pre Me7 for now.
just want to be able to move the car about, dont need anything specific at this stage
pulled the car out of the garage today, to have a sort out and found even more damage! lol
front bumper that's been hiding in the car:
and the rear axle has moved quite a bit, you can see the bent spring mount and the contact mark on the axle:
car is now sitting low on this corner for some reason, I'm sure it will sorted when the new rear axle goes on.
and finally another Volan! lol
Happy days! lol
[QUOTE=Shinsplintz 101;799998]Well, if none of us 850R owners can find a spare Volan in a couple of years we'll know who to blame eh!?!?[/QUOTE]
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I wish I'd never given up the titans, bloody volans are ££££e!
Busy weekend...........
Another parts run, think I have everything now except new brake discs, wheels and tyres.
Obviously the weekend wouldn't go without any problems! lol
Even Sam managed to pick up some goodies
I was given a bag of mixed stuff and managed to find all this in there:)
Big thanks to Flying Banana for the wings, Jamest5r for collecting the wings, the bacon sarnies and the mixed bag of stuff and to Pedro for a whole van full of goodies!
Just need to find some time to get it all fitted now. Happy days. :)
[QUOTE=JT;807377]I'll leave this here :(
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That's the straightest it's looked in a long time. ;)
(Rachel told me what you're doing ;) )
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;807399]sorry to read that! what are your plans now fella, hope you will get back into it?[/QUOTE]
don't worry, already making progress ;)
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Is that the ex plod that was for sale on here, VOC and ebay a couple of months back?
Ironic if so... would have been thrashed in it's previous life, gonna get absolutely battered now! :lol:
[QUOTE=JT;807400]don't worry, already making progress ;)
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Are you racing with space savers because they have more chance of staying on the car? ;)
[QUOTE=stribo;807417]Are you racing with space savers because they have more chance of staying on the car? ;)[/QUOTE]
Nah, he's taking it snow rallying.
They're actually studded.
Hi all, its been a while, but thought it was time to update.
Slowly but surely have now built up the new car, ready for racing next year.
We were at Abingdon airfield for its first run 10 days ago, which went ok, had some problems, but nothing serious.
An oil leak and a boost issue were the main problems.
The new suspension combined with a new diff, makes this car change direction so much better than the old one.
I'm really looking forward to getting it on a proper track, but most trackdays are fully booked at the moment.
Small video from onboard
[video=youtube_share;s15IyARfS1o]https://youtu.be/s15IyARfS1o[/video]
As Photobucket is rubbish, I'm going to try something different and using the link below, hopefully you can see some photos,
not necessarily in chronological order, but hey..........someone let me know if the link does not work.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1k9qR8XBt6svvTVfFFLO5sgxJN9e11CXr?usp=sharing
Need to write a list of all the mods, but that's going to take a while :)
Thanks to MoleT-5R for the bumper top and Claymore for the loan of a laptop.
cheers
JT
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;820482]Great to see an update JT, look forward to to seeing it in action when this damn covid thing allows.[/QUOTE]
Cheers, still no spectators at the meetings, so hopefully next year....fingers crossed
I think the question is more, what haven't I done? lol
Currently still running the Turbo Tuner, but hoping to swap that out very soon.
Differences from the last car:
Completely stripped of everything That I don't need....electric windows, wiring, underseal, random brackets etc.
Hoping the new car should be 100+ Kg lighter than the old one.
Stripped and rebuilt the Delta link, including removing all rubber mounts and replacing with uprated parts.
Fitted S60R rear brakes
Stripped and replaced all brake and fuel lines and replaced with Goodridge braided lines.
Fitted new Obp pedal box, thus removing the PAS system.
Due to the pedal box, I've had to move my seat back and then make a switch panel as I could no longer reach the dash.
New Team Dynamics Wheels
New Ohlin Front shocks
Gripper diff, set to full race ( I'm told?)
New do88 rip kit, reducing from 3" to 2/12"
New TWR front bumper with under tray( not fitted yet )
New rear wing
New Nuke Fuel rail
New MPRE uprated engine mounts
New IPD gear box tie
If I can think of anything else, Ill update later
JT
[QUOTE=JT;820508]I think the question is more, what haven't I done? lol
Currently still running the Turbo Tuner, but hoping to swap that out very soon.
Differences from the last car:
Completely stripped of everything That I don't need....electric windows, wiring, underseal, random brackets etc.
Hoping the new car should be 100+ Kg lighter than the old one.
Stripped and rebuilt the Delta link, including removing all rubber mounts and replacing with uprated parts.
Fitted S60R rear brakes
Stripped and replaced all brake and fuel lines and replaced with Goodridge braided lines.
Fitted new Obp pedal box, thus removing the PAS system.
Due to the pedal box, I've had to move my seat back and then make a switch panel as I could no longer reach the dash.
New Team Dynamics Wheels
New Ohlin Front shocks
Gripper diff, set to full race ( I'm told?)
New do88 rip kit, reducing from 3" to 2/12"
New TWR front bumper with under tray( not fitted yet )
New rear wing
New Nuke Fuel rail
New MPRE uprated engine mounts
New IPD gear box tie
If I can think of anything else, Ill update later
JT[/QUOTE]
I love that pedal box.....:shockedbi:shockedbi:shockedbi
[QUOTE=kmb;820543]Glad to see you're back![/QUOTE]
Thanks, was nice to be back in the car and back on here, although a lot quieter.
One mod I forgot, replaced all the door glass with Lexan equivalent ;)
[QUOTE=JT;820554]Thanks, was nice to be back in the car and back on here, although a lot quieter.
One mod I forgot, replaced all the door glass with Lexan equivalent ;)[/QUOTE]
Tbh it seems to be getting a bit busier around here lately, then which updates on threads like yours it all helps.
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;820556]Tbh it seems to be getting a bit busier around here lately, then which updates on threads like yours it all helps.[/QUOTE]
I'll keep this updated then if its of interest
Looking at building a fresh engine, so went through all my parts yesterday and found this lot :rolleyes2
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My workshop is a bit like that, I've got to sort through all the a-series, b-series and volvo parts to make some space, I have a rover v8 that I need to pick up for a project.....
Hello all, Happy new year!
Tech question...............
Whilst building up a new head, I wanted to make sure the Cams were correct and free spinning.
With no lifters in place, I thought the cams should spin, which they did until I put the cam cover on, then
exhaust cam spins fine, but the inlet cam became very stiff to move. Remember there are no lifters in at this stage.
Any ideas?
I have put together 4 head/cam/cover sets and they all seem to have similar issues.
JT
I think from memory dont you have to reuse the Rocker from the Original Engine? They wear to the cams so using a different Rocker cover can cause issues.
Sorry if you have done this haven't read the thread just stumbled across it.
Looking Smart btw ;)
[QUOTE=merc85;820844]I think from memory dont you have to reuse the Rocker from the Original Engine? They wear to the cams so using a different Rocker cover can cause issues.
Sorry if you have done this haven't read the thread just stumbled across it.
Looking Smart btw ;)[/QUOTE]
yea all heads/cams/covers are all from the same set/engine
Thanks:)
[QUOTE=JT;820834]Hello all, Happy new year!
Tech question...............
Whilst building up a new head, I wanted to make sure the Cams were correct and free spinning.
With no lifters in place, I thought the cams should spin, which they did until I put the cam cover on, then
exhaust cam spins fine, but the inlet cam became very stiff to move. Remember there are no lifters in at this stage.
Any ideas?
[COLOR=#0000cd]I have put together 4 head/cam/cover sets and they all seem to have similar issues.[/COLOR]
JT[/QUOTE]
That would make me think it's normal it 4 sets are have the same issues, do they rotate better with the lifter etc in place...??
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;820855]That would make me think it's normal it 4 sets are have the same issues, do they rotate better with the lifter etc in place...??[/QUOTE]
Similar issues, not all the same, some are so tight I can’t turn it by hand
Not tried it with lifters in, not sure that would make any difference, but I’ll try it
[QUOTE=JT;820858]Similar issues, not all the same, some are so tight I can’t turn it by hand
Not tried it with lifters in, not sure that would make any difference, but I’ll try it[/QUOTE]
Are they gasketed or sealanted normally? Not that I'd think a bead of sealant compressed sealant would make much difference tbh.
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;820863]Are they gasketed or sealanted normally? Not that I'd think a bead of sealant compressed sealant would make much difference tbh.[/QUOTE]
Sealant mate, but as you say, cant see a very thin layer of sealant making that much difference and if it did,
surely both cams would be tight?
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;820898]Oh No![/QUOTE]
this would suggest all 4 heads I have here are warped in some way
tells me that as soon as a head is removed, it will warp and be of no use, due to all the heat cycles it may go through in its lifetime
damn it!:slap:
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;820903]That can't be right otherwise we would never be able to do the head gasket?
Would it just "wear in"?[/QUOTE]
That's what I was thinking, skim the bottom of the head maybe, but the top????
Wear in, apparently not. The alloy will get hot and seize up, so I'm told..........?
Hmmm
Are all 4 the same then? Warped in the same place?
What is the history of the heads?
Is the block straight?
A cylinder head specialist should be able to sort it either way, being aluminium it should be possible.
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;820914]Hmmm
Are all 4 the same then? Warped in the same place?
I need to check the others
What is the history of the heads?
1 was in the car last time I raced
2 came from BT
3 came from an engine Dalhousie supplied, just has a broken valve, no need to suspect anything else
4 I think I got years ago as it was a ported head
Is the block straight?
Cams are locking up just on the bench, not bolted to the block, but I'll check it
A cylinder head specialist should be able to sort it either way, being aluminium it should be possible.[/QUOTE]
Any recommendations down south for this?
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;820916]Have you tried torqueing one down on a block and then trying the cams in it then, funny how all four are the same..??[/QUOTE]
Was thinking the same :D
Torque it down and test with a straight edge
I've got to to rip the head off Gul's engine shortly, that one was well cooked and acting as a water pump, so I am expecting in to have warped it's head, so it will be interesting if I have the same issues., whilst it's in bit's I may well forge the bottom end and shim the block from added security, not that many people crack 2.3 liners, but better safe than sorry whilst I'm in there, future proofing I think they call it, as she is always receiving olives cast of upgrades...:blowingup
Managed to get some time in the garage today, so took a couple of example vids
one with a stuck cam (BTs old engine):
[video=youtube_share;Agy3iA9vMME]https://youtu.be/Agy3iA9vMME[/video]
And one of my others:
[video=youtube_share;SJwyY1V7IME]https://youtu.be/SJwyY1V7IME[/video]
really surprising the difference, but something must be wrong somewhere
It's odd that on the one that the inlet is stuck on, you'd imagine both to stick if the warped head theory has anything to do with it.
As for garage time, to cold for me and I have to sort the place out fully before starting or continuing any project at present
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;820923]It's odd that on the one that the inlet is stuck on, you'd imagine both to stick if the warped head theory has anything to do with it.
As for garage time, to cold for me and I have to sort the place out fully before starting or continuing any project at present[/QUOTE]
it is a bit weird, on one of my heads, its the exhaust that is stuck????
it is cold out there, that why I have heating in my garage! but its sounds like we both need a tidy up ;)
Are they completely dry ie no lubrication? If so could it be as simple as a gum type residue binding things up?
Just trying to go back to the start to find root cause. Not trying to insult or upset.
Sorry re-read from the start of the problem.
So at what point of tightening the covers do they lock up?
Might be worth doing a progressive tighten to see where it happens. Is the cam then hitting the cover? Or is the tightening causing an unwanted load somewhere?
[QUOTE=Blackdog;820925]Are they completely dry ie no lubrication? If so could it be as simple as a gum type residue binding things up?
Just trying to go back to the start to find root cause. Not trying to insult or upset.
Sorry re-read from the start of the problem.
So at what point of tightening the covers do they lock up?
Might be worth doing a progressive tighten to see where it happens. Is the cam then hitting the cover? Or is the tightening causing an unwanted load somewhere?[/QUOTE]
I cleaned the points of contact before installing the the cams, putting a small amount of fresh oil on the contact points, so they are not dry
and all seems well. place the cam cover on and push it down, then some cams become tight.
I say some, as we are talking 4 different heads.
Tighten up the bolts only seems make things worse
are the cams hitting the cover? what makes you say that?
that had crossed my mind, why they would I don't know, but interested in your thoughts
I know there is a specific way to torque the head bolts, is there one for the cam cover?
Just thinking that the clearance between cover and cams might be very tight. Hence suggesting that maybe you could try progressively tighten one of the offending one and see at what point it licks up. You maybe able to hear if it starts to knock on the cover.
[QUOTE=Blackdog;820928]Just thinking that the clearance between cover and cams might be very tight. Hence suggesting that maybe you could try progressively tighten one of the offending one and see at what point it licks up. You maybe able to hear if it starts to knock on the cover.[/QUOTE]
I'll give it go
Just a small update
Having spoken to a few people/engineers, it would appear that the heads are twisted. doh!
Apparently they can be machined, but it doesn't sound like a cheap operation.
So I'll carry on with the 1 good one I do have, so after being surfaced, started to build it up again
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What size turbo you got on that JT, glad to see you using the 3" angled flange hot side, a massive improvement over the other td04 hot sides, just about to fit one to the Gul with a 3"dp into olives old jetex/BSR cat back system. Just had to knock up a couple of exhaust flanges for it, as you don't seem to be able to find them anywhere...!![ATTACH=CONFIG]33046[/ATTACH]
There made to match the casting exactly as the casting is not symmetrical.......why would it be....lol
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821318]What size turbo you got on that JT, glad to see you using the 3" angled flange hot side, a massive improvement over the other td04 hot sides, just about to fit one to the Gul with a 3"dp into olives old jetex/BSR cat back system. Just had to knock up a couple of exhaust flanges for it, as you don't seem to be able to find them anywhere...!![ATTACH=CONFIG]33046[/ATTACH]
There made to match the casting exactly as the casting is not symmetrical.......why would it be....lol[/QUOTE]
19T with 11 blade billet wheel
Nice Flange! :lol:
[QUOTE=JT;821326]Limited mate, only allowed to run that as I got it on the car before they wrote the regs for my car[/QUOTE]
Is water/meth injection allowed, could give massive edge to tuning if it is, you could push that 19t along way if it was allowed.
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821335]Is water/meth injection allowed, could give massive edge to tuning if it is, you could push that 19t along way if it was allowed.[/QUOTE]
I don’t think it’s mentioned in the regs, I’ll have to check, but having witnessed 3 mechanics on fire, wondering what was going on, I’m not a fan
[QUOTE=Morgan Harris;821331]The progress looks great, I am excited to see the outcome. Best of luck with this build.[/QUOTE]
Cheers, might actually make it to a track one day :uglyhamme
[QUOTE=JT;821348]I don’t think it’s mentioned in the regs, I’ll have to check, but having witnessed 3 mechanics on fire, wondering what was going on, I’m not a fan[/QUOTE]
I run it as a 50/50 mix, think you'll have a job to ignite that outside a combustion chamber, but it does a fantastic job in helping to control detonation.
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821353]I run it as a 50/50 mix, think you'll have a job to ignite that outside a combustion chamber, but it does a fantastic job in helping to control detonation.[/QUOTE]
I do have a kit here somewhere :biggrin:
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;821364]Think I've asked this before but can't find it, what ecu are you using factory or aftermarket? Also are you running a distributor or COP?[/QUOTE]
TTuner at the mo, but that will be swapped when funds allow.
And still old school and using dizzy :eclipsee_
Got 6 hours in the garage today, so removed what was left of the old engine, swapped ancillaries, clutch and gearbox to new engine and put that back in, quite frankly, I'm knackered!
hopefully get everything connected up this week and see what happens.........
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Oh here we go, photos up the wrong way again, I'm too tired to worry about it :uglyhamme
[QUOTE=JT;821324]19T with 11 blade billet wheel[/QUOTE]
I'm assuming the 11 blade billet wheel has an edge over a 6+6 billet wheel, just asking as I'm currently thinking of building up a billet 19T from the stock of donors I have here.
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821366]I'm assuming the 11 blade billet wheel has an edge over a 6+6 billet wheel, just asking as I'm currently thinking of building up a billet 19T from the stock of donors I have here.[/QUOTE]
From my understanding is the 6+6 billet wheel makes its boost lower down the rev range compared to the 11 blade billet wheel makes it boost higher up the rev range.
I'm running a 6+6 billet wheel in my K24 and I easier have a bar of boost at 3000rpm :)
[QUOTE=oblark;821367]From my understanding is the 6+6 billet wheel makes its boost lower down the rev range compared to the 11 blade billet wheel makes it boost higher up the rev range.
I'm running a 6+6 billet wheel in my K24 and I easier have a bar of boost at 3000rpm :)[/QUOTE]
I need my boost further up, so that works for me :B_steerin
Well, I don't know how many times I've said this, but new engine is in and running..........
[video=youtube_share;NaIorshSPsc]https://youtu.be/NaIorshSPsc[/video]
well yes it runs, but its not right.
Afrs all over the place, smoking, checked and swapped everything possible and its still not happy.
Last weekend, I even removed the entire fuel system and cleaned it all through, amazing how much sh** came out of it, but its not changed anything.
Just flashed the Turbo Tuner with a different map and nothing changed???
Starting to think maybe the ecu is the problem, again...........
Swapped it for a standard ECU and the car wont even start! lol
Would by any chance someone have a TT lying around that works that I could borrow to eliminate this potential fault?
Or someone local enough (sussex) that knows how to work a TT, maybe take a look?
Supposed to be ontrack next month, so running out of ideas as to what it could be......
Not sure I want to put it on the rollers if there is an underlying problem
Cheers for any help
[QUOTE=JT;821444]well yes it runs, but its not right.
Afrs all over the place, smoking, checked and swapped everything possible and its still not happy.
Last weekend, I even removed the entire fuel system and cleaned it all through, amazing how much sh** came out of it, but its not changed anything.
Just flashed the Turbo Tuner with a different map and nothing changed???
Starting to think maybe the ecu is the problem, again...........
Swapped it for a standard ECU and the car wont even start! lol
Would by any chance someone have a TT lying around that works that I could borrow to eliminate this potential fault?
Or someone local enough (sussex) that knows how to work a TT, maybe take a look?
Supposed to be ontrack next month, so running out of ideas as to what it could be......
Not sure I want to put it on the rollers if there is an underlying problem
Cheers for any help[/QUOTE]
If you were closer I'd have a look for you.
[QUOTE=oblark;821445]I'd throw the Turbo tuner ecu in the bin and go for M4.4 with an ostrich, alot easier to tune :)[/QUOTE]
He already has an ostrich inside the turbo tuner, all he needs to do is transfer it into an M4.4 ecu
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;821449]If you were closer I'd have a look for you.
Thanks
He already has an ostrich inside the turbo tuner, all he needs to do is transfer it into an M4.4 ecu[/QUOTE]
The TT will be binned in good time, but for now I need to make use of it.
yes I have an Ostrich already, just a badly fitted one :lol:
[QUOTE=JT;821452]The TT will be binned in good time, but for now I need to make use of it.
yes I have an Ostrich already, just a badly fitted one :lol:[/QUOTE]
When you want to bin the TT send it may way please, sure I can do something with it, but back to the car and It's running .....what has changed since you where last out in her testing....? I know these cars are sensitive to ecu's and some work and others don't
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821453]When you want to bin the TT send it may way please, sure I can do something with it, but back to the car and It's running .....what has changed since you where last out in her testing....? I know these cars are sensitive to ecu's and some work and others don't[/QUOTE]
Get my car running and you can have it :lol:
When I was at Abingdon in Sept, it wasn't right then either.
Same symptoms as now, hesitant on throttle, then all of a sudden it would kick in and take off! lol
Obviously sat in the garage is not the same comparison, but its still hesitant when throttle is applied.
I'm starting to think the Ecu might be at fault as believe it or not, its been sat on the shelf for 7 years,
Maybe the battery has died??
Yesterday, I put in a standard Ecu and the car won't even fire, forget running.
so I tried to flash the TT with the 'standard' map it comes with, car behaved exactly the same as before, like the map was not excepted.
Tried some other maps with the same results, from 2 different laptops.
JT
[QUOTE=JT;821454]Get my car running and you can have it :lol:
When I was at Abingdon in Sept, it wasn't right then either.
Same symptoms as now, hesitant on throttle, then all of a sudden it would kick in and take off! lol
Obviously sat in the garage is not the same comparison, but its still hesitant when throttle is applied.
I'm starting to think the Ecu might be at fault as believe it or not, its been sat on the shelf for 7 years,
Maybe the battery has died??
Yesterday, I put in a standard Ecu and the car won't even fire, forget running.
so I tried to flash the TT with the 'standard' map it comes with, car behaved exactly the same as before, like the map was not excepted.
Tried some other maps with the same results, from 2 different laptops.
JT[/QUOTE]
Air leak on the boost hoses or a maf issue possibly, but then I'm sure you've already tried swapping the maf
Air system..........
not the first to mention it, but i have checked the hoses, doesn't mean the IC wasn't damaged in the accident,
something else to check.
also, have now disconnected the PAS stuff, I thought it would effect the air a little, any thoughts on that?
[QUOTE=JT;821457]Air system..........
not the first to mention it, but i have checked the hoses, doesn't mean the IC wasn't damaged in the accident,
something else to check.
also, have now disconnected the PAS stuff, I thought it would effect the air a little, any thoughts on that?[/QUOTE]
on our v70r we had rough running and hesitant to rev up, but would go after a struggle to get the revs up, turned out a hose clip had rotted away and the IC bottom hose had blown back a bit, air leak was enough to confuse ecu and maf, maf was seeing higher airflow so ecu dumped more fuel than required.
not sure how PAS (power steering) alters airflow..? or I am being thick on interpretation..?
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821458]on our v70r we had rough running and hesitant to rev up, but would go after a struggle to get the revs up, turned out a hose clip had rotted away and the IC bottom hose had blown back a bit, air leak was enough to confuse ecu and maf, maf was seeing higher airflow so ecu dumped more fuel than required.
not sure how PAS (power steering) alters airflow..? or I am being thick on interpretation..?[/QUOTE]
I’ll check all the boost pipes, again
Might have my abbreviation wrong there with PAS
I meant the VAC line to the brake servo, but have since learn’t that
should not effect it until brakes are applied
[QUOTE=JT;821457]Air system..........
not the first to mention it, but i have checked the hoses, doesn't mean the IC wasn't damaged in the accident,
something else to check.
also, have now disconnected the PAS stuff, I thought it would effect the air a little, any thoughts on that?[/QUOTE]
Come on, you mean you haven't pressure tested the system?
It's easy enough to make up a tester to bung in after the MAF, then just listen. You can even do it using your mouth, won't need much to find a leak
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;821461]Come on, you mean you haven't pressure tested the system?
It's easy enough to make up a tester to bung in after the MAF, then just listen. You can even do it using your mouth, won't need much to find a leak[/QUOTE]
I will mock something up, but I have a feeling that is not the issue, but famous last words :uglyhamme
[QUOTE=JT;821459]I’ll check all the boost pipes, again
Might have my abbreviation wrong there with PAS
I meant the VAC line to the brake servo, but have since learn’t that
should not effect it until brakes are applied[/QUOTE]
The one way valves are fitted the correct way around are they...??
[QUOTE=JT;821454]
I'm starting to think the Ecu might be at fault as believe it or not, its been sat on the shelf for 7 years,
Maybe the battery has died??
[/QUOTE]
You can take the case off the ostrich and change the battery, it's only a cr2032
Think the ostrich is epoxied into the lid of the ecu (was it Claymore that took his apart?)
Like I said, if you were closer you could borrow my M4.4 with the ostrich in
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821465]The one way valves are fitted the correct way around are they...??[/QUOTE]
One way valves????
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;821466]You can take the case off the ostrich and change the battery, it's only a cr2032
Think the ostrich is epoxied into the lid of the ecu (was it Claymore that took his apart?)
Like I said, if you were closer you could borrow my M4.4 with the ostrich in[/QUOTE]
Claymore has more than likely taken one apart, but I think I did it first to expose the ostrich
[ATTACH=CONFIG]33082[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=JT;821467]One way valves????[/QUOTE]
Yes, one way valves in the vacuum lines for brake servo etc. If fitted the wrong way around then they will leak air/boost
[QUOTE=JT;821468][ATTACH=CONFIG]33083[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
Has fitting a new battery helped...?
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821469]Yes, one way valves in the vacuum lines for brake servo etc. If fitted the wrong way around then they will leak air/boost
All that pipe work has gone
Has fitting a new battery helped...?[/QUOTE]
Not changed it yet
[QUOTE=JT;821467]One way valves????
Claymore has more than likely taken one apart, but I think I did it first to expose the ostrich
[/QUOTE]
Ah, I couldn't remember who it was :) My apologies.
I much prefer the neater way of mounting it:
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;821473]Ah, I couldn't remember who it was :) My apologies.
I much prefer the neater way of mounting it:
[/QUOTE]
yea that looks a bit more professional.
Took mine apart and its not a simple battery swap. the battery has brackets attached, so I will need to invest in a new one.
but, as I had gone to the effort to remove it from the PCB, I checked it and it was still showing 3V.
So my thinking at this point was, the ecu should have lost its memory, capacitors aside, so I reinstalled it and flashed it.
Car started and first impressions were good, but no, same results. getting better, but the same.
If I alter the fuelling it doesn't change a thing, car runs regardless.
While I was out there and the car was warm, I changed the MSD coil.
Again, better but still not right. still getting white smoke
slowly but surely, getting there, but this ecu is starting to look like the culprit
[QUOTE=JT;821474]yea that looks a bit more professional.
Took mine apart and its not a simple battery swap. the battery has brackets attached, so I will need to invest in a new one.
but, as I had gone to the effort to remove it from the PCB, I checked it and it was still showing 3V.
So my thinking at this point was, the ecu should have lost its memory, capacitors aside, so I reinstalled it and flashed it.
Car started and first impressions were good, but no, same results. getting better, but the same.
If I alter the fuelling it doesn't change a thing, car runs regardless.
While I was out there and the car was warm, I changed the MSD coil.
Again, better but still not right. still getting white smoke
slowly but surely, getting there, but this ecu is starting to look like the culprit[/QUOTE]
I wish I was closer to you, as I'd pop over with a pile of ecu's to try as some start some models and some don't, yet if you try a different car you then find the one that didn't work before now start that car, but the one that worked in the previous car now don't......what model year was the electrical system for the race car from....??
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821478]I wish I was closer to you, as I'd pop over with a pile of ecu's to try as some start some models and some don't, yet if you try a different car you then find the one that didn't work before now start that car, but the one that worked in the previous car now don't......what model year was the electrical system for the race car from....??[/QUOTE]
The loom and ECU are both from my old 94 car
so we did a thing last night ..............
[ATTACH=CONFIG]33085[/ATTACH]
Found 1 clamp that was loose and a leak from the boost controller, but we think that was because it was pressurised as appose to a vacuum.
Either way, would it up to its max and that stopped it. Good little test that, cheers Dave.
For some strange reason, the TT has started to recognise different maps now too, so fingers crossed, removing the battery, did actually help?
Car has now stopped smoking on idle, but still does after applying the throttle. Just think it needs a good run now
We'll find out on the 14th, fingers crossed
Also, if anyone is breaking an 850 or similar, I could do with the part of the wiring loom that connects to the injectors.
Mine have all shot and bare copper wires are not good
much appreciated :B_steerin
[QUOTE=JT;821481]Also, if anyone is breaking an 850 or similar, I could do with the part of the wiring loom that connects to the injectors.
Mine have all shot and bare copper wires are not good
much appreciated :B_steerin[/QUOTE]
I'll have a look tomorrow, whatsapp me to remind me as brain is fuzzy after nightshifts going back to days....lol
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;821485]That a cold start or after warmup?[/QUOTE]
Cold ??
Maybe I should try and set up a remote camera and access to the laptop, so you can map it remotely ;)
[QUOTE=JT;821486]Cold ??
[/QUOTE]
I was just thinking it was a bit rich for a warm engine :)
It's your hardware that needs upgrading.
An M4.4 with COP and wideband control would be a start :D
Well the turbo came back today, all nice and shiny with new parts.
bolted it on the car and it seems to have messed with the AFRs again :lol:
It came back with a manifold gasket too? I have fitted it, but i think it leaks.
I didn't think these had a gasket between the turbo and the exhaust manifold??
[ATTACH=CONFIG]33086[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=JT;821498]Well the turbo came back today, all nice and shiny with new parts.
bolted it on the car and it seems to have messed with the AFRs again :lol:
It came back with a manifold gasket too? I have fitted it, but i think it leaks.
I didn't think these had a gasket between the turbo and the exhaust manifold??
[ATTACH=CONFIG]33086[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
I've only found one of 4 Volvo's to have a gasket on the turbo exhaust hot side and that was the xc90 d5, my theory is if it didn't have one before , then why start now....lol
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821500]I've only found one of 4 Volvo's to have a gasket on the turbo exhaust hot side and that was the xc90 d5, my theory is if it didn't have one before , then why start now....lol[/QUOTE]
My thoughts exactly! Lol
It’s gone !! :B_steerin
Hi all
I have found a company willing to produce heated windscreens for an 850, (not sure if the V70 is the same?)
They would be approximately £300 each, but I need at least 5 to be made, before they would consider it.
I'm happy to have 2, and 1 more is already spoken for.
Would anyone else be interested???
I have asked a few questions, is it the whole unit? a kit we add? etc etc
Well aware these screens rarely come out in 1 piece, so to send one off to be modified, is not an option.
So hoping its all in glass and element for £300. I'll confirm when i find out more.
JT
'It’s a whole unit, brand new glass! Laminated and fine wire heated inside the two layers.'
is the response I was given and according to their website, road legal, which is handy :B_steerin
[QUOTE=JT;821517]'It’s a whole unit, brand new glass! Laminated and fine wire heated inside the two layers.'
is the response I was given and according to their website, road legal, which is handy :B_steerin[/QUOTE]
when are you looking at for ordering / supply
So a couple of pics and some on board vid from yesterday [ATTACH=CONFIG]33106[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]33107[/ATTACH]
[video=youtube_share;8H6vQWlySTM]https://youtu.be/8H6vQWlySTM[/video]
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;821565]Bit of a flat spot on acceleration is there? or is it just my ears[/QUOTE]
Clutch, need to upgrade now, currently running 850R clutch, but now with the gripper in, it cant cope anymore.
[QUOTE=JT;821566]Clutch, need to upgrade now, currently running 850R clutch, but now with the gripper in, it cant cope anymore.[/QUOTE]
how many hp are you running now...??
[QUOTE=JT;821566]Clutch, need to upgrade now, currently running 850R clutch, but now with the gripper in, it cant cope anymore.[/QUOTE]
Thought I could hear it slipping.
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821567]how many hp are you running now...??[/QUOTE]
Similar spec to before, so in theory, similar power
But it’s not been on the rollers, so don't really know
What I do know is it’s over boosting, even with the MBC at minimum still heading towards 1.6 bar, not good on standard rods
Hi all,
thinking of selling my Team Dynamics wheels, to get some with a different offset, so I can run a wider tyre
would anyone be interested in buying my existing sets?
1 set is brand new with brand new Toyo R888, never been on the car
And the other set, as seen in the last post, have only seen 2 track days and have a used set of Toyo R888s on
just checking my options at this moment in time
JT
Post 821624 by Moonpiemagic on 2021-08-23 10:49:48
potentially interested, what are the size of the alloys and tires. Wondering if they will fit my P1 S40 T5 and looking for a 2nd set of alloys specifically for track.
[QUOTE=Moonpiemagic;821626]Ah pants, I cant fit anything less than 18" sadly[/QUOTE]
Have you got some monster brakes on there then?
Post 821628 by Moonpiemagic on 2021-08-24 10:46:54
[QUOTE=JT;821627]Have you got some monster brakes on there then?[/QUOTE]
yes, just had some Ksport 8 pots fitted. They only just fit under the 18s which has changed my plans as I was looking at getting some 17" alloys for track and keeping the 18s for road.
8 pots?
Must be like running into a brick wall :uglyhamme
Post 821640 by Moonpiemagic on 2021-08-26 07:38:23
[QUOTE=JT;821635]8 pots?
Must be like running into a brick wall :uglyhamme[/QUOTE]
:rotfl: haha yeh stop pretty well, not got them upto temp yet so they will get a good test on track some point soon hopefully!
HELP!!!
Car won’t start :(
I have no voltage coming from the ecu to the fuel pump relay.
Car was fine in November on its last trackday, haven’t touched it since.
Went to start it yesterday and noticed the pumps not priming
Tried with my TT and a standard ECU
Any ideas??
[QUOTE=JT;821972]HELP!!!
Car won’t start :(
I have no voltage coming from the ecu to the fuel pump relay.
Car was fine in November on its last trackday, haven’t touched it since.
Went to start it yesterday and noticed the pumps not priming
Tried with my TT and a standard ECU
Any ideas??[/QUOTE]
wiring to main relay above the radiator possibly...!!
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821973]wiring to main relay above the radiator possibly...!![/QUOTE]
Yea, that is a possible suspect.
Hope to get at it again at the weekend, fingers crossed
[QUOTE=JT;821974]Yea, that is a possible suspect.
Hope to get at it again at the weekend, fingers crossed[/QUOTE]
Took me ages to find it on olive when I first had her, when Gul let me down it didn't take long to find it and fix it, RAC man was well impressed how much more I knew about the 850 than he did, he pulled me from a busy spot to somewhere quieter and I fiddled with the wires and off she went again. Got me home from South Wales and then did a proper fix on her.
Well swapped out the grey relay attached to the rad from a working car
And it still won’t pull in the fuel pump relay
Guess I’m gonna have to go deeper :(
[QUOTE=JT;821977]Well swapped out the grey relay attached to the rad from a working car
And it still won’t pull in the fuel pump relay
Guess I’m gonna have to go deeper :([/QUOTE]
It's looking that way, make sure the wires to them are ok as they tend to break up and corrode over the years, don't know why I'm telling you that, with your line of work ...lol
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;821978]Bad immobiliser? Not sure if it cuts the fuel pump relay or spark though
You say there's no voltage actually coming from the ecu?[/QUOTE]
Nothing on the grey/yellow cable from the ecu :(
Didn’t think the TT used an immobiliser? Never had this problem before?
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;821980]It's looking that way, make sure the wires to them are ok as they tend to break up and corrode over the years, don't know why I'm telling you that, with your line of work ...lol[/QUOTE]
:biggrin:
cheers Dave, I will study that later.
thoughts on this:
If I put an IGN feed to the fuel pump, the car will start and run.
can I just do that? anyone see any issues with that set up?
obviously would need to start the car once the IGN is switched on, so the fuel pumps are not left running for too long without the engine running
https://youtube.com/shorts/BCOqQxCOGWs?feature=share
Well the separate switch works, which is good
Just something in the back of my mind saying is wrong lol
Oh the fuel pump relay somehow has water damage, even though it’s inside the car
Maybe that’s taken out something in the ecu?? Food for thought
You said you'd tried 2 ecu's unless it fried both of them?
Guessing it maybe shorted and sent high current through the ecu.
One way to test it is to try those ecus in another Volvo...
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;821996]You said you'd tried 2 ecu's unless it fried both of them?
Guessing it maybe shorted and sent high current through the ecu.
One way to test it is to try those ecus in another Volvo...[/QUOTE]
Would they work on an auto? Have access to one of those
[QUOTE=JT;822005]Both my TT and OEM ECUs started and ran the auto
Must be something else :wtf:[/QUOTE]
Well that's good news, Not that I've ever tried an man ecu in an auto, but my understanding was that auto ecu's work in manuals and auto's (and that is true as both my factory manual T-5R's are currently running auto ecu's), but manual ecu's only work in manuals, but as above I've never tried them. I still think there must be a break/corrosion in one of the harness leads or possibly a faulty earth, but hey it's running so that's the main thing, whens your first track outing then JT...???
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;822007]Well that's good news, Not that I've ever tried an man ecu in an auto, but my understanding was that auto ecu's work in manuals and auto's (and that is true as both my factory manual T-5R's are currently running auto ecu's), but manual ecu's only work in manuals, but as above I've never tried them. I still think there must be a break/corrosion in one of the harness leads or possibly a faulty earth, but hey it's running so that's the main thing, whens your first track outing then JT...???[/QUOTE]
First outing was back in sept at Abingdon, which was different,
and then a day Brands in Nov.
Hoping to get back there in May..........
Post 822019 by Moonpiemagic on 2022-04-25 07:33:37
There are couple of track days added to the calendar at Goodwood for this month and may, if you are looking.
Would be cool to see these flying around the goodwood track, im just down the road from there.
[QUOTE=Moonpiemagic;822019]There are couple of track days added to the calendar at Goodwood for this month and may, if you are looking.
Would be cool to see these flying around the goodwood track, im just down the road from there.[/QUOTE]
I would love to do Goodwood one day, but as we don't race there, kind of seems a bit odd to test there.
Maybe in the future, if everything falls into place
So far I have booked May 10th at Brands for a trackday
and pencilled in August 6th at Brands for my one and only race weekend this year, fingers crossed.
Will try and get another trackday in July if I can
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;822042]Going well then, any issues with the car though the day or was it all good....???[/QUOTE]
Of course there were problems :uglyhamme
Started of with no brakes
Then an oil leak
Then an engine failure
Happy days
[QUOTE=JT;822043]Of course there were problems :uglyhamme
Started of with no brakes
Then an oil leak
Then an engine failure
Happy days[/QUOTE]
What? you can't leave us with info like that. What happened?
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;822049]What? you can't leave us with info like that. What happened?[/QUOTE]
Well……….
Had a small leak from the remote reservoirs, so stripped it all down
and ended up replacing one of them, the bleed the whole system, in
preparation for the track day. But once at the track I realised I had no brakes!
Had to do the sighting laps with no brakes.
Made it back to the garage and bled all the system again and got the pedal back.
The engine has been letting by on the rings, so a bit of crankcase pressure.
So oil was finding its way out. So we just kept cleaning it up until lunch, when I then removed
The pcv which seemed to be in the middle of it. The small hose at the bottom, was to blame,
So swapped it out and all seemed well for a while.
It lasted till 5 minutes before the end, so happy we got a full days running.
Now to strip the engine down and rebuild with new parts including s60 crank, forged rods, forged pistons
and all new bearings etc
[QUOTE=JT;822050]Well……….
Had a small leak from the remote reservoirs, so stripped it all down
and ended up replacing one of them, the bleed the whole system, in
preparation for the track day. But once at the track I realised I had no brakes!
Had to do the sighting laps with no brakes.
Made it back to the garage and bled all the system again and got the pedal back.
The engine has been letting by on the rings, so a bit of crankcase pressure.
So oil was finding its way out. So we just kept cleaning it up until lunch, when I then removed
The pcv which seemed to be in the middle of it. The small hose at the bottom, was to blame,
So swapped it out and all seemed well for a while.
It lasted till 5 minutes before the end, so happy we got a full days running.
Now to strip the engine down and rebuild with new parts including s60 crank, forged rods, forged pistons
and all new bearings etc[/QUOTE]
big job then.....
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;822055]big job then.....[/QUOTE]
not really, but I'm going to run out of time to finish and test it before August :uglyhamme
this engine was built using all sorts of bits and bobs, just to get some seat time, so its served its purpose.
[QUOTE=JT;822126]Anyone know the best place to get some driveshafts ???[/QUOTE]
found some!
https://www.jandrcvjoints.co.uk/
I'll let you know how long they last :smile:
[QUOTE=JT;822132]found some!
https://www.jandrcvjoints.co.uk/
I'll let you know how long they last :smile:[/QUOTE]
I've bought their CV joints and boot kits for years. Cheap as chips but never any issues and for the price you can always buy another.
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;822133]I've bought their CV joints and boot kits for years. Cheap as chips but never any issues and for the price you can always buy another.[/QUOTE]
and even more JamesT5 (Comby) used these a couple of times I believe and I don't recall him trying to sue them, so they must be ok.....:banana:
[quote=molet-5r;822135]and even more jamest5 (comby) used these a couple of times i believe and i don't recall him trying to sue them, so they must be ok.....:banana:[/quote]
pmsl :D :D
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;822135]and even more JamesT5 (Comby) used these a couple of times I believe and I don't recall him trying to sue them, so they must be ok.....:banana:[/QUOTE]
:lol:
We'll find out on Tuesday how good they are :)
[QUOTE=JT;822138]So, I finally managed to get the front sorted yesterday :cool:
[ATTACH=CONFIG]33182[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]
Now that does look good, when and where is the next outing..??
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;822151]Now that does look good, when and where is the next outing..??[/QUOTE]
Well............it was Tuesday, yes the hottest day on record and I had booked a track day :lol:
Going back a bit, I said we had some engine issues right at the end of the last test, I think we found the problem!
[ATTACH=CONFIG]33193[/ATTACH]
So new (ish) piston fitted and new rings while we had it apart and booked another test.
I was so pleased my mate turned up with his massive gazebo to keep us in the shade
[ATTACH=CONFIG]33194[/ATTACH]
So yes a very hot day as I'm sure you are all aware, but with in car temps hitting 45 degrees and wearing the full fireproofs, it was a tough day
not just for me but the car as well.
Twice it overheated
https://youtube.com/shorts/Bl4gfsSRoPU?feature=share
But I did get some laps in. Not pushing too hard as I did not want to destroy the new engine components.
On a positive, no oil leaks!! Happy days !!
The new drive shafts survived the day, so happy with those
Anyone recommend some decent brake pads to suit AP CP5200 cailpers? currently on DS3000, but I'm not feeling the bite
[video=youtube_share;lIyIXVsNceg]https://youtu.be/lIyIXVsNceg[/video]
Next outing and my last this year, should be August 6TH, Brands Hatch...................RACEDAY!! :biggrin:
[QUOTE=JT;822154]Well............it was Tuesday, yes the hottest day on record and I had booked a track day :lol:
Going back a bit, I said we had some engine issues right at the end of the last test, I think we found the problem!
[ATTACH=CONFIG]33193[/ATTACH]
So new (ish) piston fitted and new rings while we had it apart and booked another test.
I was so pleased my mate turned up with his massive gazebo to keep us in the shade
[ATTACH=CONFIG]33194[/ATTACH]
So yes a very hot day as I'm sure you are all aware, but with in car temps hitting 45 degrees and wearing the full fireproofs, it was a tough day
not just for me but the car as well.
Twice it overheated
https://youtube.com/shorts/Bl4gfsSRoPU?feature=share
But I did get some laps in. Not pushing too hard as I did not want to destroy the new engine components.
On a positive, no oil leaks!! Happy days !!
The new drive shafts survived the day, so happy with those
Anyone recommend some decent brake pads to suit AP CP5200 cailpers? currently on DS3000, but I'm not feeling the bite
[video=youtube_share;lIyIXVsNceg]https://youtu.be/lIyIXVsNceg[/video]
Next outing and my last this year, should be August 6TH, Brands Hatch...................RACEDAY!! :biggrin:[/QUOTE]
Damn......I'm on holiday from work that weekend, I but will be recovering from The Flying Moose's wedding festivities, I'm dying to see you and her on track ...or off track ??? (socially I mean....lol)
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;822157]The Moose is also Daddy Moose as well....[/QUOTE]
Excellent!!:cool:
In other news, looks like my cooling fan stopped working! might explain the overheating :slap:
[QUOTE=JT;822161]Excellent!!:cool:
In other news, looks like my cooling fan stopped working! might explain the overheating :slap:[/QUOTE]
That would probably explain that then, was that the fan itself or a fault with the electrical supply...?? you could do with something on the dash to tell you that it is operating when your racing, just an idea..
so after investigation
the fan works
the relay works
the sensor works
all cabling is good
and if you unplug the sensor the fan will run in a failsafe mode
but if i warm the car up, it still wont run the fan??
So, the fuel pump stopped working a little while back
now the Fan
I think my ECU is slowly dying :rolling_e
so after investigation
the fan works
the relay works
the sensor works
all cabling is good
and if you unplug the sensor the fan will run in a failsafe mode
but if i warm the car up, it still wont run the fan??
So, the fuel pump stopped working a little while back
now the Fan
I think my ECU is slowly dying :rolling_e
[QUOTE=JT;822165]so after investigation
I think my ECU is slowly dying :rolling_e[/QUOTE]
Oh dear that's not good, will that force you down the stand-alone route, or can you get your ostrich map flashed onto a 4.3 or 4.4 ecu if that's possible...??
[QUOTE=JT;822168]was thinking of going 4.4, but that's all part of next years plan :B_thumb:[/QUOTE]
Something I do have here but not got around to fitting it to olive and flashing the map onto it, everything went on the back burner when shakey shut down...:(
Need to do something to bring it a bit more up to date
good news, fan has decided to start working again
bad news, it appears the overheating has cooked the valve seals, so its developed a really bad smoking habit.
no racing for me:wallbash:
Suspected head gadget failure, probably due to the extreme heat at the track
and lack of air through the new bumper
I’ll keep trying, not going to give up
J.T. are you still running a stand rad or have you upgraded the rad, if not it may be time to.......also is the water pump ok and circulating effectively... just a couple of my thoughts as the grill aperture is quite a size on an 850 and would have though it would allow sufficient cooling even out on track at your power level.
The standard rad gave up very early on, like 10 years ago
water pump was ok when fitted, doesn't mean its still ok
I run an alloy rad now.
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[QUOTE=JT;822196]The standard rad gave up very early on, like 10 years ago
water pump was ok when fitted, doesn't mean its still ok
I run an alloy rad now.
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Nice rad J.T......I did recently hear of someone having over heating issues which was baffling them, when the water pump was removed it was found to have stripped it's self of it's impellor blades.
There is just a standard one in there at the moment
I used to run without, not sure it made any difference
But I’ve never had overheating issues before
Well. some of you may already know but, went for a play at Brands Hatch on Saturday.
It was slippery as first thing in the morning, but dried up quite nicely, so got some good running in.
Nealevo came along for the banter and was brave enough to get in the car too, if only to do his nails! lol
Developed a small oil leak in the afternoon, which meant an early bath, but it was getting late anyway.
Overall, a very good day out :B_thumb:
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Onboard with Nealevo: [video=youtube_share;Zf_wLYUNoVk]https://youtu.be/Zf_wLYUNoVk[/video]
[QUOTE=simonc;822384]Great thread, just read all 97 pages lol, took me 3 days or so on and off :crazy:[/QUOTE]
Wow! Thanks for reading:B_thumb:
I'm sure it went off topic on occasion, but this forum has been a huge help to me over the years
[QUOTE=JT;822385]Wow! Thanks for reading:B_thumb:
I'm sure it went off topic on occasion, but this forum has been a huge help to me over the years[/QUOTE]
Hopefully I’ll get to catch up with you and Steve up at Brands this year. Every time Steve asks if I want to do a trackday something is broken on the 850!
[QUOTE=simonc;822386]Hopefully I’ll get to catch up with you and Steve up at Brands this year. Every time Steve asks if I want to do a trackday something is broken on the 850![/QUOTE]
Would be good to have another 850 on track!