Saffy S70r Project

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Post 557393 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-30 20:58:38

Hi to all those reading my post, Im newbie as far as volvo`s go, so here it goes , iv bought this saffy, i washed, claybared and wax her straight away. [ATTACH=CONFIG]19771[/ATTACH] The pcv system was already done by the previous owner :-) Have also got paperwork to say the car has a rica ecu re-map Its only done 109k for a 97 car and still feels tight. Iv removed and replaced the plugs, leads, cap and rotor [ATTACH=CONFIG]19772[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19773[/ATTACH] Removed the front pipe and cat, removed the internals of the cat and re-fitted so free-flowing and de-cat`d, sounds awesome, cheap temp mod until i have the money to purchase a proper de-cat pipe. [video=youtube;nPLxvO1igr8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPLxvO1igr8&feature=share&list=UUOJsbvc24k2e2C2ObB2YHTQ[/video] Replaced the fuel pump with a high-flow 255 pump and there is a noticable difference in the higher RPM. Fitted a new internal boost gauge. Had all the engine sensors and injectors scoped to make sure all is well and working within the parameters, thanks to a pico scope, what an awesome peice of kit. Has a diy r.i.p kit fitted until i can afford the real thing lol. Replaced the actuator as wouldnt hold more than 12psi without bleeding off, now that one wont hold more than 15psi lol but at least shes moving a tad better :-) New actuator on order. Replaced the vac lines. Removed and cleaned the turbo and housing, no play in turbo and the housing is crack free. The exhaust manifold has been machined internally to allow free`er flowing gases. Have fitted an mbc. Also made my own intake kit so save some money, just a test atm and only had a short time to spend on it, cost me around £40 and have tested it and has seemed to make the throttle response quite abit more responsive over the standard air box and piping. Im using the standard top intake hose from the front of the grill, including the part that goes into the bottom of the air box, im also running a 75mm diameter air duct tube from the o/s/f bottom grill upto the front of the gearbox to enable plenty of cold air to lower the chances of heat soak. [ATTACH=CONFIG]19774[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19775[/ATTACH] Took it for a drive and sounds pretty cool for the money, pleanty of chatter from the turbo, not too noisey and better throttle response. Just gotta make abit better when i get time. A few pics of her upto date [ATTACH=CONFIG]19776[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]19777[/ATTACH] Will keep you upto date, thanks for looking

Post 557395 by leet5r on 2012-12-30 21:03:10

welcome , love the sound of a deact , wouldnt bother with a proper decat pipe , theres a lad on here called greame who makes 3inch downpipes with a decat if thats any good

Post 557398 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-30 21:05:38

Thanks bud, cool ill make a note of that :-)

Post 557399 by merc85 on 2012-12-30 21:06:20

Looks awesome bud, certainly be good to see it in the flesh, Coming on nicely and thats a fit 18t on that beast too, i reckon you will get some good power with her when she's done. :)

Post 557400 by merc85 on 2012-12-30 21:08:26

[QUOTE=leet5r;557395]welcome , love the sound of a deact , wouldnt bother with a proper decat pipe , theres a lad on here called greame who makes 3inch downpipes with a decat if thats any good[/QUOTE] I found having a Straight pipe welded in she spat flames easier lol, and the noise was a little more, I prefer the straight tube to be welded in, but knocking the cat through serves the purpose, and as seen in the vid lol sounds pritty good on boooost lol ;)

Post 557407 by T5frankie on 2012-12-30 21:35:57

nice work mate

Post 557408 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-30 21:45:01

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557407]nice work mate[/QUOTE] thanks dude

Post 557412 by martybelfastt5 on 2012-12-30 22:04:11

looks very good love the banner too

Post 557415 by smithy on 2012-12-30 22:18:44

Likes like a bit of competition between the saffy lads then by I think it will be a while before you can catch frankies though because that s70r is dam quick .

Post 557416 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-30 22:20:32

[QUOTE=martybelfastt5;557412]looks very good love the banner too[/QUOTE] Thanks Marty

Post 557418 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-30 22:23:13

[QUOTE=smithy;557415]Likes like a bit of competition between the saffy lads then[/QUOTE] :-) its gonna be healthy and fun lol

Post 557419 by smithy on 2012-12-30 22:26:32

All I have to say is see you at a drag meet soon mate they are a nice car and if I didn't have my 940 lpt saloon I would have one no problems

Post 557423 by Kingsford G on 2012-12-30 22:38:56

I coulod swear the actuator help 17psi no probs mate but as a result of not using her much could`ve gone hard and cracked membrane.Sound really good.Glad the turbo is good tho.

Post 557443 by merc85 on 2012-12-30 23:44:11

Original actuator was tested and wouldnt sustain any pressure for long, (like you said) "a result of not using her much could`ve gone hard and cracked membrane" . With the vac line disconnected from the actuator it wouldn't hold boost. Turbo intercooler, and associated pipes have all been checked and up graded where needed, i've since lent him a spare actuator atm whilst he waits for the new replacment one. All these cars are getting old old these sorts of items are prone to wear out with age and mileage. The car is certainly being loved and performance is very very good even with my spare actuator fitted Now holding 15psi.

Post 557453 by Kingsford G on 2012-12-30 23:57:25

[QUOTE=merc85;557443]Original actuator was tested and wouldnt sustain any pressure for long, (like you said) "a result of not using her much could`ve gone hard and cracked membrane" . With the vac line disconnected from the actuator it wouldn't hold boost. Turbo intercooler, and associated pipes have all been checked and up graded where needed, i've since lent him a spare actuator atm whilst he waits for the new replacment one. All these cars are getting old old these sorts of items are prone to wear out with age and mileage. The car is certainly being loved and performance is very very good even with my spare actuator fitted Now holding 15psi.[/QUOTE] Help him get the beat out of her Gav but don`t over do it,still keep him behind lol

Post 557458 by V70 Graham on 2012-12-31 00:10:54

Liking what you have done so far, will be good to see 'in the flesh' some time in 2013

Post 557471 by iancho on 2012-12-31 05:30:00

Nice to see another Saffy on the forum. Keep up the good work! Kind Regards Ian

Post 557503 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-31 10:59:36

Thanks for all your comments, will be looking to hook up at some events coming 2013

Post 557508 by WOODY T5 on 2012-12-31 11:33:15

looks and sounds very nice keep up the good work

Post 557627 by merc85 on 2012-12-31 18:26:54

Seriously mate its gonna shift with the new actuator for sure

Post 557631 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 18:31:53

[QUOTE=merc85;557627]Seriously mate its gonna shift with the new actuator for sure[/QUOTE] there is shifting then there is mine lol

Post 557651 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-31 19:01:10

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557631]there is shifting then there is mine lol[/QUOTE] be afraid be VERY afraid lmfao

Post 557660 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 19:12:42

[QUOTE=S70RESSEX;557651]be afraid be VERY afraid lmfao[/QUOTE] its ok my car has at least 50bhp more than yours, you wanna get to one of the 1/4 meets next year

Post 557669 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-31 19:23:06

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557660]its ok my car has at least 50bhp more than yours, you wanna get to one of the 1/4 meets next year[/QUOTE] lol cheeky, whats yours putting out? so i can go talk to my bank manager lol, yeah ill be show my face for 2013 :-P

Post 557670 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 19:24:15

[QUOTE=S70RESSEX;557669]lol cheeky, whats yours putting out? so i can go talk to my bank manager lol, yeah ill be show my face for 2013 :-P[/QUOTE] about 320bhp, but more mods planned before it comes out of its hiding place

Post 557672 by WOODY T5 on 2012-12-31 19:26:06

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557670]about 320bhp, but more mods planned before it comes out of its hiding place[/QUOTE]Is that all lol

Post 557676 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 19:29:13

[QUOTE=WOODY T5;557672]Is that all lol[/QUOTE] well i could say 354bhp if you want

Post 557677 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-31 19:29:43

aahh mate your gonna need to crack on, i wont be able to run mine if it was that much horses lol

Post 557681 by WOODY T5 on 2012-12-31 19:31:14

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557676]well i could say 354bhp if you want[/QUOTE]could do if it was a volvo but its a merc lol

Post 557689 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 19:41:02

[QUOTE=WOODY T5;557681]could do if it was a volvo but its a merc lol[/QUOTE] this year is the s70r's year mate dont worry

Post 557690 by WOODY T5 on 2012-12-31 19:44:52

me worry never but u do sound like someone else on hear now

Post 557698 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 19:56:41

[QUOTE=WOODY T5;557690]me worry never but u do sound like someone else on hear now[/QUOTE] my name is frank smith lol

Post 557702 by smithy on 2012-12-31 20:10:01

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557698]my name is frank smith lol[/QUOTE] Arses lol

Post 557708 by merc85 on 2012-12-31 20:26:58

Woody should be safe, 850's weigh less for a start than a s70r, 320bhp blimey coming on the frankie, what turbo she runing now?

Post 557711 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 20:30:24

[QUOTE=merc85;557708]Woody should be safe, 850's weigh less for a start than a s70r, 320bhp blimey coming on the frankie, what turbo she runing now?[/QUOTE] it made 311bhp at 17psi mate, i have added an s60r manifold since and can up the boost easily to make 320bhp mate maybe 330

Post 557713 by Kingsford G on 2012-12-31 20:30:58

[QUOTE=S70RESSEX;557669]lol cheeky, whats yours putting out? so i can go talk to my bank manager lol, yeah ill be show my face for 2013 :-P[/QUOTE] Be sensible Mark,u have probably the lowest mileage,unabused (no mbc) and best condition s70r in the country so u don`t wonna turn it into a race horse lo 300hp will b good tho.

Post 557717 by merc85 on 2012-12-31 20:32:52

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557711]it made 311bhp at 17psi mate, i have added an s60r manifold since and can up the boost easily to make 320bhp mate maybe 330[/QUOTE] Wasnt that the same as the v70r? on the 19t?

Post 557718 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 20:32:55

[QUOTE=Kingsford G;557713]Be sensible Mark,u have probably the lowest mileage,unabused (no mbc) and best condition s70r in the country so u don`t wonna turn it into a race horse lo 300hp will b good tho.[/QUOTE] there was one on ebay with alot lower mileage a few weeks back, mbc's are alot of fun but they do wreck engines ive done 3 engines with mine

Post 557719 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 20:34:09

[QUOTE=merc85;557717]Wasnt that the same as the v70r? on the 19t?[/QUOTE] it was on the v70r but since i swapped everything over and it now even has a non smoky engine i am assuming its the same for the s70r

Post 557721 by Kingsford G on 2012-12-31 20:34:45

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557718]there was one on ebay with alot lower mileage a few weeks back, mbc's are alot of fun but they do wreck engines ive done 3 engines with mine[/QUOTE] Not a manual one was it?I think I know the one u mean.that was an auto.

Post 557724 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 20:42:24

[QUOTE=Kingsford G;557721]Not a manual one was it?I think I know the one u mean.that was an auto.[/QUOTE] probably but beleive it or not there are even less autos than manuals on the road 23/30

Post 557725 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 20:43:12

[QUOTE=merc85;557708]Woody should be safe, 850's weigh less for a start than a s70r, 320bhp blimey coming on the frankie, what turbo she runing now?[/QUOTE] s70r's aint heavy mate

Post 557728 by Kingsford G on 2012-12-31 20:47:24

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557724]probably but beleive it or not there are even less autos than manuals on the road 23/30[/QUOTE] Lately I like autos as getting lazy lol manual is more fun tho

Post 557731 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 20:50:49

[QUOTE=Kingsford G;557728]Lately I like autos as getting lazy lol manual is more fun tho[/QUOTE] i have a 354bhp 5.4 litre auto mate that would batter my volvo and most others and it also handles better and stops better

Post 557742 by merc85 on 2012-12-31 20:59:04

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557725]s70r's aint heavy mate[/QUOTE] didnt say they were mate, just said 850's are lighter. Cant belive ur merc handles better?? But yes they have the power yum yum Quad cam V8! ;)

Post 557746 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 21:01:38

[QUOTE=merc85;557742]didnt say they were mate, just said 850's are lighter. Cant belive ur merc handles better?? But yes they have the power yum yum Quad cam V8! ;)[/QUOTE] not just a little better, way better, smoother, better damped, corners alot flatter just got to know when to put your foot down with all the wet roads we have cos traction control only works up to 50mph and the rear wheels can spin at 80 if you are flooring it

Post 557760 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-31 21:37:34

To ref kingsford n Frankie it's fine in know how to tune cars I am a fully qualified vehicle technition and have been around this game for yrs. I look after all my cars and provided you've dialled them in rite anything is possible :-D

Post 557762 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 21:40:41

[QUOTE=S70RESSEX;557760]To ref kingsford n Frankie it's fine in know how to tune cars I am a fully qualified vehicle technition and have been around this game for yrs. I look after all my cars and provided you've dialled them in rite anything is possible :-D[/QUOTE] one of my best mates is a fully trained mechanic but he knows naff all compared to me when it comes to t5's

Post 557763 by merc85 on 2012-12-31 21:40:47

I'm trying to do a 1471 on mine lol, but its fckn withheld lmfao!!!

Post 557765 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-31 21:44:25

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557762]one of my best mates is a fully trained mechanic but he knows naff all compared to me when it comes to t5's[/QUOTE] Good job ya know me now then lmao. It's gonna be a fun summer all round me thinks

Post 557768 by Wobbly Dave on 2012-12-31 21:51:00

I shall be glad to have a bit more competition - so far Frankie is still laggin' behind.

Post 557771 by S70RESSEX on 2012-12-31 21:53:34

:-D lol iv not had her long but has come along way already

Post 557772 by Kingsford G on 2012-12-31 21:54:13

[QUOTE=S70RESSEX;557760]To ref kingsford n Frankie it's fine in know how to tune cars I am a fully qualified vehicle technition and have been around this game for yrs. I look after all my cars and provided you've dialled them in rite anything is possible :-D[/QUOTE] U deffo do look after yr cars mate,lovely cupra fr u had proved it to me. [QUOTE=merc85;557763]I'm trying to do a 1471 on mine lol, but its fckn withheld lmfao!!![/QUOTE] LOL u nutter:lol:

Post 557775 by Jamest5r on 2012-12-31 21:59:20

Love this thread lol, so looking forward to the summer should be interesting :) 1st one of the year come show what your made of Essex boys it's a lot better than a pub car park http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?47961-Avon-24-3-2013

Post 557781 by merc85 on 2012-12-31 22:08:52

[QUOTE=Jamest5r;557775]Love this thread lol, so looking forward to the summer should be interesting :) 1st one of the year come show what your made of Essex boys it's a lot better than a pub car park http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?47961-Avon-24-3-2013[/QUOTE] Gave frankie a show at North weald lol, running a weak engine and Box "excuses cough lol" done a 14.8 @ 98mph. Certainly be good to run the new car (if she starts pmsl)

Post 557782 by smithy on 2012-12-31 22:13:02

Yes we will have to get a proper drag strip meet in the summer for everyone to go too.try and get a santapod none event sunday

Post 557783 by Kingsford G on 2012-12-31 22:13:16

[QUOTE=merc85;557781]Gave frankie a show at North weald lol, running a weak engine and Box "excuses cough lol" done a 14.8 @ 98mph. Certainly be good to run the new car (if she starts pmsl)[/QUOTE] I`m sure with a couple more runs u`d have beaten 14.8

Post 557784 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 22:14:09

[QUOTE=merc85;557781]Gave frankie a show at North weald lol, running a weak engine and Box "excuses cough lol" done a 14.8 @ 98mph. Certainly be good to run the new car (if she starts pmsl)[/QUOTE] err where was that meet again?.......................................essex wasnt it? lol what about a santa pod meet so its more local? lol. and i got a 14.9 in my automatic

Post 557785 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 22:15:30

santa pod opens again in 2 weeks i might pop up while its nice and cold

Post 557786 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 22:16:09

[QUOTE=Kingsford G;557783]I`m sure with a couple more runs u`d have beaten 14.8[/QUOTE] 14.8 is about right with the power he had

Post 557787 by merc85 on 2012-12-31 22:17:09

and you managed to get it home to respect lol that poor box, thats why i only did 3 runs with mine, was worried it wouldnt hold out lol, not like you lads at it all day lmfao

Post 557790 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 22:19:32

[QUOTE=merc85;557787]and you managed to get it home to respect lol that poor box, thats why i only did 3 runs with mine, was worried it wouldnt hold out lol, not like you lads at it all day lmfao[/QUOTE] i only did 4 runs it was on the way home mucking about with steve my engine started to sound rough

Post 557791 by merc85 on 2012-12-31 22:21:31

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557790]i only did 4 runs it was on the way home mucking about with steve my engine started to sound rough[/QUOTE] really? lol steve??

Post 557792 by Kingsford G on 2012-12-31 22:23:05

Stribo had a crap time in his s60r and then he couldn`t stop,can`t remember his time somewhere 14.3 I think.Experience means a lot,that was Gavs 1st 1/4 mile where I`ve never done it,was saving it for Mark lol

Post 557794 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 22:24:24

[QUOTE=merc85;557791]really? lol steve??[/QUOTE] yeah blackdog steve in his d5

Post 557795 by T5frankie on 2012-12-31 22:25:14

[QUOTE=Kingsford G;557792]Stribo had a crap time in his s60r and then he couldn`t stop,can`t remember his time somewhere 14.3 I think.Experience means a lot,that was Gavs 1st 1/4 mile where I`ve never done it,was saving it for Mark lol[/QUOTE] stribo had a good time mate thats what they do mid 14's standard t5's are high 15's

Post 557797 by Kingsford G on 2012-12-31 22:28:26

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557794]yeah blackdog steve in his d5[/QUOTE] That car went well,Gav thought its prob t5steve u taklking about.

Post 557807 by smithy on 2012-12-31 23:14:06

I cannot wait for the new season and to see what a 140 bhp Volvo 940 can do

Post 557938 by LiamT4 on 2013-01-01 13:09:43

[QUOTE=merc85;557742] Cant belive ur merc handles better?? But yes they have the power yum yum Quad cam V8! ;)[/QUOTE] Look at it this way. What would handle better a 1999 M5 or a 1999 Volvo? Frankies amg is just mercs version on the M5, its not quite as sporty drive as the m5, but they still handle great for a big car. Remember as well that the amg was a £50k+ car when new.

Post 557950 by leet5r on 2013-01-01 13:51:54

how far of topic is this lol

Post 557952 by LiamT4 on 2013-01-01 13:58:16

[QUOTE=leet5r;557950]how far of topic is this lol[/QUOTE] Very. Best to let it get back on topic lol

Post 557953 by T5frankie on 2013-01-01 13:58:28

[QUOTE=LiamT4;557938]Look at it this way. What would handle better a 1999 M5 or a 1999 Volvo? Frankies amg is just mercs version on the M5, its not quite as sporty drive as the m5, but they still handle great for a big car. Remember as well that the amg was a £50k+ car when new.[/QUOTE] 65 grand mate

Post 557998 by smithy on 2013-01-01 16:16:58

Yes and very nice too.i would luv the supercharge one though or the big bi turbo .

Post 558002 by T5frankie on 2013-01-01 16:25:05

[QUOTE=smithy;557998]Yes and very nice too.i would luv the supercharge one though or the big bi turbo .[/QUOTE] yeah the 6.2 n/a's are no more back to 5.4's now but turbocharged

Post 558123 by MIKESC70T5 on 2013-01-01 20:52:15

[QUOTE=t5frankie;557731]i have a 354bhp 5.4 litre auto mate that would batter my volvo and most others and it also handles better and stops better[/QUOTE] 5.4 litre and only 354bhp :snail: lol

Post 558125 by T5frankie on 2013-01-01 20:58:48

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;558123]5.4 litre and only 354bhp :snail: lol[/QUOTE] yeah a nice unstressed engine

Post 558126 by merc85 on 2013-01-01 21:00:14

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;558123]5.4 litre and only 354bhp :snail: lol[/QUOTE] 530nm of torque tho, which is a lot lol, and being 354bhp and 5.4 ltr it aint gonna be stressed so it will still be creating 354bhp when its done 500,000 miles

Post 558128 by T5frankie on 2013-01-01 21:06:02

[QUOTE=merc85;558126]530nm of torque tho, which is a lot lol, and being 354bhp and 5.4 ltr it aint gonna be stressed so it will still be creating 354bhp when its done 500,000 miles[/QUOTE] quite a bit more than his miniscule 319nms lol

Post 558131 by stribo on 2013-01-01 21:18:09

[QUOTE=Kingsford G;557792]Stribo had a crap time in his s60r and then he couldn`t stop,can`t remember his time somewhere 14.3 I think.Experience means a lot,that was Gavs 1st 1/4 mile where I`ve never done it,was saving it for Mark lol[/QUOTE] Should be a better time this year, now the VVT's sorted. I didn't have any problems stopping though mate, Brembo 4 pot calipers all round and big discs see to that. :D

Post 558133 by T5frankie on 2013-01-01 21:20:20

[QUOTE=stribo;558131]Should be a better time this year, now the VVT's sorted. I didn't have any problems stopping though mate, Brembo 4 pot calipers all round and big discs see to that. :D[/QUOTE] i think he meant couldnt stop having a go

Post 558134 by stribo on 2013-01-01 21:21:48

[QUOTE=t5frankie;558133]i think he meant couldnt stop having a go[/QUOTE] Oh right, well it is addictive. ;)

Post 558135 by stribo on 2013-01-01 21:22:24

[QUOTE=t5frankie;558133]i think he meant couldnt stop having a go[/QUOTE] Oh right, well it is addictive. ;)

Post 558137 by MIKESC70T5 on 2013-01-01 21:25:09

[QUOTE=t5frankie;558128]quite a bit more than his miniscule 319nms lol[/QUOTE] But mines only 3.2 litres so just thought a big 5.4 would be pushing over 400 bhp easily. M5's with a 4.9 ltr push out 400bhp

Post 558139 by T5frankie on 2013-01-01 21:26:58

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;558137]But mines only 3.2 litres so just thought a big 5.4 would be pushing over 400 bhp easily. M5's with a 4.9 ltr push out 400bhp[/QUOTE] my volvo is only a 2,3 and is pushing 320bhp and 480nms, its got enough power mate believe me, its effortless

Post 558140 by MIKESC70T5 on 2013-01-01 21:30:09

[QUOTE=t5frankie;558139]my volvo is only a 2,3 and is pushing 320bhp and 480nms[/QUOTE] We're talking normally aspirated cars not turbos :rolleyes:

Post 558141 by LiamT4 on 2013-01-01 21:31:16

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;558137]But mines only 3.2 litres so just thought a big 5.4 would be pushing over 400 bhp easily. M5's with a 4.9 ltr push out 400bhp[/QUOTE] But up untill recently M engines have all been very revvy. Like yours they don't produce much torque low down. As much as i love the e39 m5, frankies amg would make the better long distance car. One of the reasons being that it produces a lot of torque low down. also it does 60-100mph in 6 seconds, which is damn good for a big old cruiser.

Post 558143 by MIKESC70T5 on 2013-01-01 21:37:12

[QUOTE=LiamT4;558141]But up untill recently M engines have all been very revvy. Like yours they don't produce much torque low down. As much as i love the e39 m5, frankies amg would make the better long distance car. One of the reasons being that it produces a lot of torque low down. also it does 60-100mph in 6 seconds, which is damn good for a big old cruiser.[/QUOTE] It's a shame all manufacturers are going down the twin turbo root for the sake of emissions etc. nothing like the sound of a proper engine going into the 7000 and above rev range.

Post 558144 by LiamT4 on 2013-01-01 21:40:29

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;558143]It's a shame all manufacturers are going down the twin turbo root for the sake of emissions etc. nothing like the sound of a proper engine going into the 7000 and above rev range.[/QUOTE] I agree, the noise of the e60 M5s V10 at 8K is just fantastic.

Post 558145 by T5frankie on 2013-01-01 21:41:43

[QUOTE=LiamT4;558141]But up untill recently M engines have all been very revvy. Like yours they don't produce much torque low down. As much as i love the e39 m5, frankies amg would make the better long distance car. One of the reasons being that it produces a lot of torque low down. also it does 60-100mph in 6 seconds, which is damn good for a big old cruiser.[/QUOTE] 5.9 lol, just been to glasgow and back in it and it was lovely, got 26mpg average too lol

Post 558146 by MIKESC70T5 on 2013-01-01 21:47:44

[QUOTE=LiamT4;558144]I agree, the noise of the e60 M5s V10 at 8K is just fantastic.[/QUOTE] I agree, just a shame it's such a pig ugly looking car in my opinion lol. Can be picked up for around £ 16000 now as we'll. When my car was in having a service, an m5 was there with vanos issues, £3500 for new ones!!!!!

Post 558159 by smithy on 2013-01-01 22:42:14

My brother had a m5 v8 400 bhp lovely motor and very quick too .they said that was the last proper drivers car without all the electronics that the new one has

Post 558162 by MIKESC70T5 on 2013-01-01 22:54:45

[QUOTE=smithy;558159]My brother had a m5 v8 400 bhp lovely motor and very quick too .they said that was the last proper drivers car without all the electronics that the new one has[/QUOTE] Yep the E39 M5 is a fantastic car. I test drove a couple and had my heart set on getting one, but my head said I couldn't really as it's not a cheap car to maintain compared to an M3 ( which isn't cheap either but better than the M5) fuel consumption 15mpg the norm, no good for me as it would of been used daily. My M3 is a great substitute and puts a smile on my face even after a year of ownership, even though I've spent more than £4000 on her on top of the purchase price and not including 10000 miles of v-power fuel lol.

Post 558166 by smithy on 2013-01-01 23:05:52

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;558162]Yep the E39 M5 is a fantastic car. I test drove a couple and had my heart set on getting one, but my head said I couldn't really as it's not a cheap car to maintain compared to an M3 ( which isn't cheap either but better than the M5) fuel consumption 15mpg the norm, no good for me as it would of been used daily. My M3 is a great substitute and puts a smile on my face even after a year of ownership, even though I've spent more than £4000 on her on top of the purchase price and not including 10000 miles of v-power fuel lol.[/QUOTE] Yes mate you have a very nice car but I think I would give you a run for your money in my 940 Volvo though lol.the 940 is my second car but if something happened to that then I would proberly get an m5 v8 manual and fit a supercharger to it.

Post 558174 by MIKESC70T5 on 2013-01-01 23:45:33

[QUOTE=smithy;558166]Yes mate you have a very nice car but I think I would give you a run for your money in my 940 Volvo though lol.the 940 is my second car but if something happened to that then I would proberly get an m5 v8 manual and fit a supercharger to it.[/QUOTE] To be honest I buy a car because I like the look of it and feel good factor it gives me. It doesn't always have to be a fast car, but it's nice if it is lol. Mine rarely gets abused, I just plod along in sixth gear and cruise at 70-80 mph on my way to work on the dual carriageway. It's my second car so bought just for me and not the family. Have no intentions of selling in the near future, but when the time comes it will be replaced by an E39 M5.

Post 558175 by smithy on 2013-01-02 00:11:38

My 940 is my second car and I love that car because of its retro looks a bit old school and it a bit of a car that I can build things myself and enjoy it too.