Wing Mirror 'Kerbside' Light
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Post 569322 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-03 20:04:18
Just a quick one this really, does anyone know what bulb is needed for the kerbside light under the wing mirror? Also, how on earth are we supposed to change the lightbulb, seeing that it's enclosed in the wing mirror housing? I've had a look on Parts For Volvos Online and I couldn't see any bulbs under the mirrors and lighting category....
I've got one out on the wing mirror on the passengers side, which I noticed was out when I started playing with the yellow button on the key fob the other day. I also noticed a side light was out, this was 18 pence to fix and I also replaced the other bulb as well (I always replace bulbs in pairs unless it's in an emergency). What's odd though, the car gives us a message if a tail or front light is out but not a side light. Very odd!
Anyway, advice about the kerb lighting would be greatly appreciated. I'm just wondering if I can get some coloured bulbs to go in there, given they're not road lighting I should in theory be able to choose whatever colour I like. :D
Regards
James
Post 569326 by volvokid on 2013-02-03 20:20:31
You need to tilt the mirror and you will see the retaining clips that you prise with a screw driver and push it down, they are the same as your number plate bulbs
Post 569327 by volvokid on 2013-02-03 20:21:04
Too slow
Post 569328 by Harvey on 2013-02-03 20:31:42
Don't press the tab to hard as they will snap off ,new ones cost £40 inc vat as I found out.
Post 569329 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-03 20:39:38
Ok, thanks to everyone for the advice, especially stephenevans99 for the pictures. I thought the P2 models have an 'allergy' to Light Emitting Diodes and flash warning lights on the dashboard at the driver unless the blown bulbs are replaced with standard ones? Or, are the wing mirrors and number plate lights the exception?
Regards
James
Post 569330 by M-R-P on 2013-02-03 20:44:37
Sidelights, mirrors and numberplate lights are all free from canbus issues :)
Post 569331 by stephenevans99 on 2013-02-03 20:45:17
[QUOTE=JamesT5;569329] Or, are the wing mirrors and number plate lights the exception?
[/QUOTE]
Spot on....I replaced my front sidelights, puddle lamps & number plate lights with LED's and never had a problem.
http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/stephenevans99/Volvo%20S60%20D5%202004/?action=view¤t=MOV03130.mp4
Post 569333 by volvokid on 2013-02-03 20:48:16
I fitted osram leds
Post 569334 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-03 20:49:25
[QUOTE=stephenevans99;569331]Spot on....I replaced my front sidelights, puddle lamps & number plate lights with LED's and never had a problem.
http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c2/stephenevans99/Volvo%20S60%20D5%202004/?action=view¤t=MOV03130.mp4[/QUOTE]
That looks mint, thanks for your help and I'll give that a go. Obviously I'll need white for the number plate lights and side lights but the wing mirror lights I could choose any colour I want. :D
Post 569335 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-03 20:51:07
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569330]Sidelights, mirrors and numberplate lights are all free from canbus issues :)[/QUOTE]
Makes a change doesn't it! That's probably why the side lights aren't showing up as 'out' on the DIM, because they aren't actually linked to the same system as the other lights. The question is, why?
Post 569336 by stephenevans99 on 2013-02-03 20:51:48
Have you seen the 'logo' leds on eBay? Install them into your door cards so they shine the Volvo emblem onto the road as you open the door....waiting to see if anyone fits them.
Post 569365 by silverhorse on 2013-02-03 22:49:49
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569330]Sidelights, mirrors and numberplate lights are all free from canbus issues :)[/QUOTE]
Ooh, thats handy to know...............
Post 569368 by M-R-P on 2013-02-03 22:54:50
[QUOTE=silverhorse;569365]Ooh, thats handy to know...............[/QUOTE]
Yep.
But I've just stumped-up a fiver for 4 load resistors for the little project I'll be starting soon ;)
Post 569372 by silverhorse on 2013-02-03 23:10:25
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569368]Yep.
But I've just stumped-up a fiver for 4 load resistors for the little project I'll be starting soon ;)[/QUOTE]
Interesting............!
The sidelight, numberplate and mirrors won't need resistors will they?
I was thinking of LEDing tail/stop/turn lights a while back, but it was far more involved than I thought. Fitting all the resistors and still getting errors frightened me off:worried:
Post 569375 by p fandango on 2013-02-03 23:17:50
[QUOTE=stephenevans99;569336]Have you seen the 'logo' leds on eBay? Install them into your door cards so they shine the Volvo emblem onto the road as you open the door....waiting to see if anyone fits them.[/QUOTE]
i've got 2 sets, going to have a go at what you describe hopefully tomorrow. Just hoping its not too hard to find the right wire on the door latch that will turn them on when the doors open (& to find a permanent live)
Post 569376 by M-R-P on 2013-02-03 23:18:05
[QUOTE=silverhorse;569372]Interesting............!
The sidelight, numberplate and mirrors won't need resistors will they?
I was thinking of LEDing tail/stop/turn lights a while back, but it was far more involved than I thought. Fitting all the resistors and still getting errors frightened me off:worried:[/QUOTE]
All the 501 wedge bulbs will be fine mate.
The rear lights will be more difficult as they connect directly to the board, meaning you'll need to do some soldering.
I've got the resistors for the front end lights. There will soon be HIDs and a lot of LEDs ;)
Post 569377 by M-R-P on 2013-02-03 23:19:35
[QUOTE=p fandango;569375]i've got 2 sets, going to have a go at what you describe hopefully tomorrow. Just hoping its not too hard to find the right wire on the door latch that will turn them on when the doors open (& to find a permanent live)
[/QUOTE]
Go straight to the footwell lights mate, then they'll come on when you unlock the car.
Post 569379 by p fandango on 2013-02-03 23:24:10
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569377]Go straight to the footwell lights mate, then they'll come on when you unlock the car.[/QUOTE]
i would, but had a look today & its a nightmare to get extra wires into the door. & as the door will be shut you won't see them anyway, i'm putting them into the door card where it raises up for the SIPS on the B-pillar
Post 569386 by M-R-P on 2013-02-03 23:35:23
[QUOTE=p fandango;569379]i would, but had a look today & its a nightmare to get extra wires into the door. & as the door will be shut you won't see them anyway, i'm putting them into the door card where it raises up for the SIPS on the B-pillar[/QUOTE]
Big girl!
Thought you were gonna put them in the mirrors?
Looks like I'll be doing another "how to" at some point ;)
Post 569389 by p fandango on 2013-02-03 23:41:52
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569386]Thought you were gonna put them in the mirrors?[/QUOTE]
no they'll be too faint that far off the ground
Post 569391 by M-R-P on 2013-02-03 23:45:07
[QUOTE=p fandango;569389]no they'll be too faint that far off the ground[/QUOTE]
Even the 4th gen ones?
I'm doing something else for puddle illumination any way but now I'm thinking of an internal use for the projectors (and I don't mean up my bum lol)
Post 569405 by p fandango on 2013-02-04 00:35:32
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569391]Even the 4th gen ones?[/QUOTE]
running the 1st & 4th generation ones side by side their no brighter. 4th's are alot smaller & definition of the logo better, you still wouldn't see it from the height of the mirrors. I've also got to try the 4th's wired on the car, trying them off the charger they overheated & started flashing (hoping its the compatibility of the power source & not a problem with the lights)
Post 569406 by LeeT5 on 2013-02-04 01:29:04
If you ask me, i think they look a bit gay! Great idea, don't get me wrong. However, if they did an R logo then i think i would be tempted. The Volvo logo just doesn't do it for me.
Post 569442 by silverhorse on 2013-02-04 08:53:11
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569386]
Looks like I'll be doing another "how to" at some point ;)[/QUOTE]
Please!! :wink:
Post 569447 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-04 09:15:58
Look what I've started by starting this thread. :D
Post 569449 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-04 09:21:32
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569376]All the 501 wedge bulbs will be fine mate.
The rear lights will be more difficult as they connect directly to the board, meaning you'll need to do some soldering.
I've got the resistors for the front end lights. There will soon be HIDs and a lot of LEDs ;)[/QUOTE]
I'm going to fit HID's but I'll get Canbus compatible ones. The only issue with fitting HID's is that we'll have to drill holes in the plastic dust cap behind the headlamp and then make sure it's all sealed up correctly. But sometimes the D2S bulbs stick out beyond the dust cap so therein lies an issue....
Post 569451 by p fandango on 2013-02-04 09:27:07
[QUOTE=JamesT5;569449]I'm going to fit HID's but I'll get Canbus compatible ones. The only issue with fitting HID's is that we'll have to drill holes in the plastic dust cap behind the headlamp and then make sure it's all sealed up correctly. But sometimes the D2S bulbs stick out beyond the dust cap so therein lies an issue....[/QUOTE]
my 52plate S60 hasn't moaned about any of my HID's, yet my old mans 03plate S60 did. TBH we just binned the caps
Post 569452 by M-R-P on 2013-02-04 09:34:15
I bought these to deal with the canbus issue. As for the caps - I'll deal with that when I fit them ;)
Post 569453 by p fandango on 2013-02-04 09:36:27
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569452]I bought these to deal with the canbus issue[/QUOTE]
hmm Scotchlocks lol
Post 569454 by M-R-P on 2013-02-04 09:38:41
[QUOTE=p fandango;569453]hmm Scotchlocks lol[/QUOTE]
I may or may not use those, depending on time...;)
Post 569455 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-04 09:40:17
The problem is, if the light unit isn't sealed off you'll get water getting in to the headlight unit which equals an MOT failure.
Post 569457 by M-R-P on 2013-02-04 09:41:19
[QUOTE=JamesT5;569455]The problem is, if the light unit isn't sealed off you'll get water getting in to the headlight unit which equals an MOT failure.[/QUOTE]
MOT advisory mate - I know that because it was one of my advisories a couple of weeks ago :D
Post 569469 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-04 09:55:59
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569457]MOT advisory mate - I know that because it was one of my advisories a couple of weeks ago :D[/QUOTE]
Just tell them it's a special edition feature - "Water Discharge Headlights" LMAO! :D :hihi:
Post 569470 by M-R-P on 2013-02-04 09:56:50
I was gonna use it to steam some kippers :D
Post 569474 by silverhorse on 2013-02-04 10:41:58
[QUOTE=JamesT5;569449]I'm going to fit HID's but I'll get Canbus compatible ones. The only issue with fitting HID's is that we'll have to drill holes in the plastic dust cap behind the headlamp and then make sure it's all sealed up correctly. But sometimes the D2S bulbs stick out beyond the dust cap so therein lies an issue....[/QUOTE]
James, why are you after HID,s? Are you only after the 'ice white' colour? or do you need them for increased light discharge? Hell of a job when you can just replace your standard incandescents with the chavvy 100w tinted blue Saxo boy bulbs. Done that on my other cars and they look the biz. Luckily I got bi-xenons on the Volvo as standard.
Post 569509 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-04 14:04:56
[QUOTE=silverhorse;569474]James, why are you after HID,s? Are you only after the 'ice white' colour? or do you need them for increased light discharge? Hell of a job when you can just replace your standard incandescents with the chavvy 100w tinted blue Saxo boy bulbs. Done that on my other cars and they look the biz. Luckily I got bi-xenons on the Volvo as standard.[/QUOTE]
No, HID's are better than any 'fake' HID bulbs, the light is more like Daylight and the bulbs last alot longer too. HID it is but that will be after I've sorted out some more urgent issues. :D
Post 569512 by M-R-P on 2013-02-04 14:20:43
Just make sure you get the right colour...
4300k = yellow/white
5000k = white (like a bright light bulb)
6000k = white with a faint blue haze
8000k = borderline chav-blue
12000k = deep chav blue with a hint of purple.
There's also red, purple, green etc. for the determined plod-baiter.
Post 569531 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-04 15:13:13
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569512]Just make sure you get the right colour...
4300k = yellow/white
5000k = white (like a bright light bulb)
6000k = white with a faint blue haze
8000k = borderline chav-blue
12000k = deep chav blue with a hint of purple.
There's also red, purple, green etc. for the determined plod-baiter.[/QUOTE]
The higher the K rating, the less the light focus. So in other words, the darker colours produce less light focus so you get a poorer 'range', but the whiter colours like 6000K and 5000K give an optimum light output with a hint of colour.
I've seen kits that are 30,000K, so you'll definitely get pulled! :cop: :D
Post 569568 by silverhorse on 2013-02-04 16:39:24
[QUOTE=JamesT5;569509]after I've sorted out some more urgent issues. :D[/QUOTE]
I was thinking that you had bigger fish to fry at the mo!!!
Post 569618 by p fandango on 2013-02-04 18:29:41
still got to find the right wires
Post 569619 by stephenevans99 on 2013-02-04 18:33:33
Quite like the look of that Pedro.....is there plenty of room where you've mounted the LED unit or was it a squeeze?
Post 569620 by p fandango on 2013-02-04 18:36:59
[QUOTE=stephenevans99;569619]Quite like the look of that Pedro.....is there plenty of room where you've mounted the LED unit or was it a squeeze?[/QUOTE]
thanks. Theirs loads of room, the inner metal skin just goes straight up so you've got the whole thickness of the door card
Post 569622 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-04 18:41:29
How did you actually wire them up, how did you join the wires together?
Post 569623 by volvokid on 2013-02-04 18:42:34
I didn't like the idea of this, but it looks cool.
Post 569624 by M-R-P on 2013-02-04 18:43:08
Not bad that :)
I have other plans for when I get round to getting some ;)
Post 569627 by p fandango on 2013-02-04 18:46:10
[QUOTE=JamesT5;569622]How did you actually wire them up, how did you join the wires together?[/QUOTE]
at the minute its wired to a cigeratte lighter plug, couldn't find the right ones (but once i do i shall post it up)
Post 569629 by stephenevans99 on 2013-02-04 18:49:53
Couldn't the wiring simply pass through with the door loom and then joined into the footwell lights? - scotchlocks optional...lol
Post 569631 by p fandango on 2013-02-04 18:52:11
[QUOTE=stephenevans99;569629]Couldn't the wiring simply pass through with the door loom and then joined into the footwell lights? - scotchlocks optional...lol[/QUOTE]
the factory wirings on a plug & socket on the doors so no gaps to get the extra wires thru, there is space to drill a couple of holes but the door would have to come off to get the drill in (& their'll be no Scotchlocks lol)
Post 569634 by M-R-P on 2013-02-04 18:54:44
The rubber casing comes off the plug. You could feed the wires through there and pull it through into the footwell with a draw-wire. :D
Post 569636 by p fandango on 2013-02-04 19:00:07
[QUOTE=M-R-P;569634]The rubber casing comes off the plug. You could feed the wires through there and pull it through into the footwell with a draw-wire. :D[/QUOTE]
theirs no holes on the door side of the rubber, thats got the plug & socket on
Post 569643 by p fandango on 2013-02-04 19:08:58
[QUOTE=stephenevans99;569641]There maybe a way courtesy of LeeT5's thread where he fitted his boost gauge...take a look.
http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?43376-Fitting-an-IPD-boost-guage-and-door-pod-%28P2%29&highlight=boost+gauge+door+pod[/QUOTE]
thats tomorrows job then :)
Post 569780 by LeeT5 on 2013-02-05 03:58:16
[QUOTE=silverhorse;569474]James, why are you after HID,s? Are you only after the 'ice white' colour? or do you need them for increased light discharge? Hell of a job when you can just replace your standard incandescents with the chavvy 100w tinted blue Saxo boy bulbs. Done that on my other cars and they look the biz. Luckily I got bi-xenons on the Volvo as standard.[/QUOTE]
Word of warning. The so called, 100w bulbs are a load of crap! The way they get the bulb to be brighter is by reducing the size of the filament. This makes it burn hotter and thus produce more light. Downside is, they last 5 minutes.
Been there , done that and got the crappy t shirt. You can't beat HID conversion kits with any Halogen bulb no matter what the manufacturer claims.
Post 569781 by LeeT5 on 2013-02-05 04:03:39
[QUOTE=p fandango;569631]the factory wirings on a plug & socket on the doors so no gaps to get the extra wires thru, there is space to drill a couple of holes but the door would have to come off to get the drill in (& their'll be no Scotchlocks lol)[/QUOTE]
I managed to drill holes in my door plug without removing the door when i installed my Boost gauge. Was fairly straight forward enough.................(oh yeah, you found my thread) :wink:
Post 569783 by p fandango on 2013-02-05 05:58:53
[QUOTE=LeeT5;569781]I managed to drill holes in my door plug without removing the door when i installed my Boost gauge. Was fairly straight forward enough.................(oh yeah, you found my thread) :wink:[/QUOTE]
not sure why but i couldn't figure out how the door stay came undone (must of been half asleep), hopefully be giving your way a try later. Thanks
Post 570154 by LeeT5 on 2013-02-06 03:18:24
[QUOTE=p fandango;569783]not sure why but i couldn't figure out how the door stay came undone (must of been half asleep), hopefully be giving your way a try later. Thanks[/QUOTE]
Thats coz you is a bit fick blud! :hidesbehi:wink:
Post 570160 by p fandango on 2013-02-06 06:54:08
[QUOTE=LeeT5;570154]Thats coz you is a bit fick blud! :hidesbehi:wink:[/QUOTE]
Certain had a blonde moment as I couldn't see the bolt holding at all lol
Post 570655 by silverhorse on 2013-02-07 08:57:33
Now that, I like!!
Personally I would not worry about it not being high enough for you to see when you get out. How many times have you ever stepped out of your car and fallen down a hole because of a lack of puddle lighting?
It looks really good for what it is, which is a personalised mod that you are pleased with.
I like!!!
Post 572951 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-13 16:30:15
Just tried fitting some 501 LED'd for my puddle lights and when I pushedthe yellow button they just flashed on and then went off straight away. So, I turned the bulbs around and nothing happened at all, then I swapped the bulb for another LED incase the one I was trying was faulty and the same happened again. I put the original Volvo bulb in and hey presto, it came on. So, then I tried the LED's again and no luck.
I wonder if the LED's I'm putting in are unsuitable. The ones I brought were these........
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271089570365?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
Post 572955 by partsforvolvos.com on 2013-02-13 16:32:46
put them on a direct feed from the car battery , to each contact on the bulb and see if they light up ok. - try both options on the wires as led's only light up one way.
if they dont work from the battery, they are efective or blew when you plugged them in.
Post 572965 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-13 16:51:51
[QUOTE=partsforvolvos.com;572955]put them on a direct feed from the car battery , to each contact on the bulb and see if they light up ok. - try both options on the wires as led's only light up one way.
if they dont work from the battery, they are efective or blew when you plugged them in.[/QUOTE]
Thanks. I fitted 2 identicle ones to the front sidelights and they worked, although to be honest my 18 pence ring sidelight bulbs were brighter! I think maybe I should get some LED's with multiple diodes on them as they will probably give out more light.
Regards
James
Post 572968 by M-R-P on 2013-02-13 16:56:12
Get single chip cree led bulbs mate, they're super bright.
Post 572972 by stribo on 2013-02-13 17:03:11
I used these for the number plate lights, and will be using them for the puddle lights as well.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360550129230?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Post 572974 by JamesT5 on 2013-02-13 17:04:17
[QUOTE=M-R-P;572968]Get single chip cree led bulbs mate, they're super bright.[/QUOTE]
Where's the best place for those?
Post 572976 by M-R-P on 2013-02-13 17:08:57
Have a look on my "cheap ebay light conversions" thread, there's an ebay link to the ones I used.
Post 573102 by jdavis on 2013-02-13 20:36:27
That volvo light looks quite smart. To be honest i thought they would look a bit chav but looks good. Have you got a link for them?
Post 574114 by LeeT5 on 2013-02-16 00:23:46
[QUOTE=stribo;572972]I used these for the number plate lights, and will be using them for the puddle lights as well.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360550129230?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649[/QUOTE]
Funny. I bought the very same bulbs and they are in my rear number plate lights and puddle lights. They are very distinctive.
Making sure that the LED is in the correct way round before reinserting the bulb holder into the door mirror.
to get a bigger area i mounted the light on the highest part of the door card (ie at the end where it raises to clear the SIPs). This does make it a bit far away to see where your stepping but i can always add another normal light halfway down the door
from inside the door, loads of clearance all the way along the bottom edge
this is the plug for the factory footwell light. The white wire is positive switched so i just connected another for it to go into the door. Following Lee's guide (thank you) i drilled the door plug/socket & fed the wire into the door
the yellow wire is the one i added thru the door. As it was positive switched i simply earthed the negative of the light to a screw on the door, this does cause flickering sometimes when opening (guess the door isn't intentionally earthed to the body) & when i have more time might look for a proper earth wire within the door
:)