Post 583300 by JamesT5 on 2013-03-11 20:43:24
The other day I sent a message to Volvo UK asking them why there isn't a current 'R' model in the V70/S60 range of cars. Today I got a response and this is exactly what they said (copied and pasted from my e-mail)......
[I]"Thank you for your email.
A continuous programme of research and development ensures that our products constantly evolve to keep pace with our customers changing needs and demands. Regrettably there is currently not the demand to offer the V70 “R” AWD, and therefore this is why the model is no longer available, nor an equivalent at this time. I have, of course, recorded your feedback on our system, however, I am sure that you will appreciate that whilst individual requirements are influential, they cannot be guaranteed to evoke a change in design strategy.
Thank you for taking the time to contact us.
Best Regards,
Rachel Rhodes
Customer Champion Consultant
Volvo Car UK Limited
Volvo Car Group - Region 2[/I]"
In other words what they are saying is that customers no longer want 'R' AWD models and the cost of designing and making one wouldn't be justified in todays market.
So there we are folks, looks like the 'R' models will become classics!
Regards
James
Post 583305 by V70 Graham on 2013-03-11 20:54:57
......unless all VPC members e-mail them say 2,000 times each asking the same thing !
Post 583307 by Jimmie on 2013-03-11 20:56:58
That is the reason it was dropped in the first place,not enough sales.
Post 583308 by t5 stealth on 2013-03-11 21:02:41
no one wants big old thirsty tanks.
everyone goes for the cheap lawn mower crap thats got the build quality of a lego toy and the power of an electric shaver.
and cost £20 to tax............
great you might think.......until you want to go shopping or go on holiday with the kids and luggage....
it dont work.........
Post 583309 by Wobbly Dave on 2013-03-11 21:03:56
Perhaps the Polestar versions can turn the tide. I guess there isn't the customer momentum as there is for the german tuning houses such as AMG & M sport?
I have high hopes that Volvo will create something that will keep the essense of R alive.
Post 583314 by JamesT5 on 2013-03-11 21:15:00
[QUOTE=V70 Graham;583305]......unless all VPC members e-mail them say 2,000 times each asking the same thing ![/QUOTE]
Go on, let's do it! :D :B_thumb:
Post 583316 by Harvey on 2013-03-11 21:16:09
I feel there would be a small number of people that could or afford to buy the R cars.
With the very high cost of the cars,road tax first reg charge,road tax,company car tax,mpg.
With all the costs just look at the number of sales that would be,just look at the sales of the volvo S60 T6 AWD which is very close to the older R cars .
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=v70%20t6%20awd%20%28304%20ps%29&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CD8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carbuyer.co.uk%2Freviews%2Fvolvo%2Fv70%2Festate%2F30-t6-4wd-304-ps-r_design-nav-gtronic_7526529%2Freview&ei=vkc-UauXL6KL7AaUpoGgDg&usg=AFQjCNHqk0CPT0TWbM1YA0KK3Khjoa-I5g
The main thing they don't do is a manual gearbox
Post 583319 by JamesT5 on 2013-03-11 21:19:04
[QUOTE=Harvey;583316]I feel there would be a small number of people that could or afford to buy the R cars.
With the very high cost of the cars,road tax first reg charge,road tax,company car tax,mpg.
With all the costs just look at the number of sales that would be,just look at the sales of the volvo S60 T6 AWD which is very close to the older R cars .
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=v70%20t6%20awd%20%28304%20ps%29&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CD8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.carbuyer.co.uk%2Freviews%2Fvolvo%2Fv70%2Festate%2F30-t6-4wd-304-ps-r_design-nav-gtronic_7526529%2Freview&ei=vkc-UauXL6KL7AaUpoGgDg&usg=AFQjCNHqk0CPT0TWbM1YA0KK3Khjoa-I5g
The main thing they don't do is a manual gearbox[/QUOTE]
You could always buy a standard V70 (say a T6) and 'Mod' it to make your own custom 'R' model! I can think of a few on here with the mechanical and design skills! :D
Post 583325 by Harvey on 2013-03-11 21:28:04
Volvo just love the autos a little bit to much,all to do with the euro 3,4,5,6 engine emissions or what ever number they are at now.
Post 583328 by M-R-P on 2013-03-11 21:33:48
Anybody specced up a top of the range V70 recently? T6 (300+ Bhp) AWD with unimaginable extras, add to that the cost of a polestar remap and your looking at a 340bhp luxury monster for 57000 quid. Could that not be called an R?
Post 583333 by Wobbly Dave on 2013-03-11 21:39:49
Are you really suggesting that people would spend 57000 on a Volvo rather than a German equivalent?
Post 583337 by JamesT5 on 2013-03-11 21:43:28
[QUOTE=Wobbly Dave;583333]Are you really suggesting that people would spend 57000 on a Volvo rather than a German equivalent?[/QUOTE]
I would!
Post 583340 by Harvey on 2013-03-11 21:47:18
Must say I do like the V60 T6 polestar but it's around 45k so might have a year or two before its at my price bracket.
Post 583349 by M-R-P on 2013-03-11 21:55:50
If I had the kind of income that would allow me to blow 57k on a new car then it would be without a doubt, be the affore mentioned V70, in black.
Post 583352 by Harvey on 2013-03-11 22:01:17
Just looked how many sold I think it says people just don't like these cars.
Looks like they sold just two cars in two years with this spec.
VOLVO V70 R-DESIGN AWD T6 AUTO
Tax/SORN
Years
New Registrations
Engines
Vehicles registered for the first time, annually (2001-2012)
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
Registrations: 2
Note: the count for 2012 only includes vehicles sold up to Sep 31st.
2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0
Post 583353 by Harvey on 2013-03-11 22:04:37
[QUOTE=M-R-P;583349]If I had the kind of income that would allow me to blow 57k on a new car then it would be without a doubt, be the affore mentioned V70, in black.[/QUOTE]
If I had that sort of cash ,I would want a two door ,front door and a back door.
Post 583355 by smithy on 2013-03-11 22:07:43
If I could afford it I would by a t6 and convert it to manual get ride of the engine computer stuff and standalone it .then see what power theses can put out lol.
Post 583357 by Wobbly Dave on 2013-03-11 22:11:24
Polestart beat you to it but I know what you mean.