C70 failed MOT.

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Post 624983 by stribo on 2013-07-13 13:06:37

Took the C70 down for it's annual test, and it failed on the front wheels rubbing the wheel arch liner, because it's been lowered. Just had a look, and I think I should have fitted wheel spacers. Image

Post 624990 by JUDGENINJA on 2013-07-13 13:25:49

Go online for the latest regs, it is noted that Volvo wheels rub from the factory. Take the written document back in and they should issue a certificate. As I wouldn't say that was excessive unless it interferes when stationary?? I had a practical mechanic magazine with all the updates which has a specific section for Volvos, which was the reason I bought it. I have just looked in the office for it, but can't find it at the moment. if I find it I'll scan it over to you.

Post 624992 by p fandango on 2013-07-13 13:27:44

[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;624990]Go online for the latest regs, it is noted that Volvo wheels rub from the factory. Take the written document back in and they should issue a certificate. As I wouldn't say that was excessive unless it interferes when stationary?? I had a practical mechanic magazine with all the updates which has a specific section for Volvos, which was the reason I bought it. I have just looked in the office for it, but can't find it at the moment. if I find it I'll scan it over to you.[/QUOTE] i thought that was only S60/V70's

Post 624994 by stribo on 2013-07-13 13:30:19

[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;624990]Go online for the latest regs, it is noted that Volvo wheels rub from the factory. Take the written document back in and they should issue a certificate. As I wouldn't say that was excessive unless it interferes when stationary?? I had a practical mechanic magazine with all the updates which has a specific section for Volvos, which was the reason I bought it. I have just looked in the office for it, but can't find it at the moment. if I find it I'll scan it over to you.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=p fandango;624992]i thought that was only S60/V70's[/QUOTE] Yeah, I did mention to them that it should only be an advisory, but the tester said it didn't apply to the C70.:slap:

Post 624998 by V70 Graham on 2013-07-13 13:53:33

Does that mean your pb last week is null and void ?

Post 624999 by stribo on 2013-07-13 14:08:59

[QUOTE=V70 Graham;624998]Does that mean your pb last week is null and void ?[/QUOTE] Why would it be null and void, car had a valid MOT then.

Post 625000 by graemewelch on 2013-07-13 14:16:28

tester sounds harsh to me. raise the hieght for retest the get some spacers

Post 625001 by V70 Graham on 2013-07-13 14:35:33

[QUOTE=stribo;624999]Why would it be null and void, car had a valid MOT then.[/QUOTE] It did, but at the time of the pb the car was not mot/roadworthy.....Frankie is the champion lol

Post 625002 by V70 Graham on 2013-07-13 14:37:14

In all seriousness, what you gonna do ? Will spacers be enough ? Be a pain to have to put old suspension on just for mot.

Post 625003 by JUDGENINJA on 2013-07-13 14:41:42

I'm not sure, but surely we could all argue that it has the front of a v70!!!

Post 625004 by JUDGENINJA on 2013-07-13 14:47:20

Anyway I'm keeping My fingers crossed as I've just dropped the V40 at the MOT station (might be done today, might not)..

Post 625006 by Harvey on 2013-07-13 14:58:46

[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;625004]Anyway I'm keeping My fingers crossed as I've just dropped the V40 at the MOT station (might be done today, might not)..[/QUOTE] All I can say is good luck.:funkybana

Post 625007 by JUDGENINJA on 2013-07-13 15:01:36

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MoT%20-%20Issue%2051%20-%20Sep%202011.pdf Just some advisory notes, looks like the advice is evidence rubbing doesn't necessarily mean RfR, but evidence of damage to the tyre.

Post 625008 by JUDGENINJA on 2013-07-13 15:08:55

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MoT%20-%20Issue%2035%20-%20April%202007.pdfA different exert : A tyre-some issue We have had quite a few queries about Volvos showing evidence of tyre contact with the inner wing at some time. This evidence is not a reason for failure on its own but has caused testers some concern.

Post 625009 by JUDGENINJA on 2013-07-13 15:13:07

http://www.motinfo.gov.uk/htdocs/m4s02000206.htm

Post 625011 by stribo on 2013-07-13 15:20:06

[QUOTE=V70 Graham;625001]It did, but at the time of the pb the car was not mot/roadworthy.....Frankie is the champion lol[/QUOTE] It wasn't on the public highway though.

Post 625018 by JUDGENINJA on 2013-07-13 15:32:50

[QUOTE=V70 Graham;625001]It did, but at the time of the pb the car was not mot/roadworthy.....Frankie is the champion lol[/QUOTE] Don't tell him that!!! We'll never hear the end of it!!

Post 625021 by M-R-P on 2013-07-13 15:37:13

The wheel rub service bulletin only applied to P2 cars. Just rip the lines our mate, make it lighter too :)

Post 625026 by JUDGENINJA on 2013-07-13 15:45:34

Yep that is where manufacturers have confirmed, but reading a couple of the docs, it isn't just a clear cut case as they can fail these cars too. It is not a get out of jail card just because you own a P2

Post 625031 by T5frankie on 2013-07-13 15:59:53

what a load of crap all my arches have been rubbed,

Post 625032 by T5frankie on 2013-07-13 16:00:39

[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;625018]Don't tell him that!!! We'll never hear the end of it!![/QUOTE] think you'll find i always was

Post 625037 by JUDGENINJA on 2013-07-13 16:22:08

:uglyhamme

Post 625043 by V70 Graham on 2013-07-13 16:45:15

[QUOTE=T5frankie;625031]what a load of crap all my arches have been rubbed,[/QUOTE] Where you live shouldn't that be "All my arches have been robbed" ?

Post 625057 by T5frankie on 2013-07-13 17:09:24

[QUOTE=V70 Graham;625043]Where you live shouldn't that be "All my arches have been robbed" ?[/QUOTE] kids think all my cars are cool round here so i get no grief

Post 625060 by stribo on 2013-07-13 17:14:54

[QUOTE=M-R-P;625021]The wheel rub service bulletin only applied to P2 cars. Just rip the lines our mate, make it lighter too :)[/QUOTE] Unfortunately it's rubbing the front chassis rail as well.

Post 625062 by Harvey on 2013-07-13 17:18:55

just fit some 2CV tires their like bike tires.:slap: just what size tires do you have fitted,are they the stock size or bigger.

Post 625063 by stribo on 2013-07-13 17:26:24

They're 225/45/17's, it'll be real fun when I stick the 235s on the 18s. ;)

Post 625064 by stribo on 2013-07-13 17:27:20

[QUOTE=T5frankie;625032]think you'll find i always was[/QUOTE] I think you'll find Dave was. ;)

Post 625066 by V70 Graham on 2013-07-13 17:31:24

Not a good showing by the 'Softies' today 0/2 on the MOT's !

Post 625067 by V70 Graham on 2013-07-13 17:32:06

.....and mines in 3 weeks !

Post 625070 by t5 pete on 2013-07-13 17:33:28

[QUOTE=stribo;625063]They're 225/45/17's, it'll be real fun when I stick the 235s on the 18s. ;)[/QUOTE] Easy way to sort mot is put some one elses wheels on with 215 or less but tyres rubbing on the wall is a failure for a reason leading to a greater chance of blow outs

Post 625071 by stribo on 2013-07-13 17:36:39

[QUOTE=t5 pete;625070]Easy way to sort mot is put some one elses wheels on with 215 or less but tyres rubbing on the wall is a failure for a reason leading to a greater chance of blow outs[/QUOTE] I'm fitting spacers tomorrow, so it should solve the problem. :)

Post 625144 by Wobbly Dave on 2013-07-13 20:24:30

Mine have rubbed for ever - never failed an MOT. Do you a swap?

Post 625145 by T5frankie on 2013-07-13 20:27:47

[QUOTE=stribo;625063]They're 225/45/17's, it'll be real fun when I stick the 235s on the 18s. ;)[/QUOTE] you know you are only supposed to use 215's on the front? even my 19's were 215's

Post 625147 by stribo on 2013-07-13 20:31:57

[QUOTE=Wobbly Dave;625144]Mine have rubbed for ever - never failed an MOT. Do you a swap?[/QUOTE] Sounds like I need to use your MOT tester.

Post 625148 by stribo on 2013-07-13 20:32:30

[QUOTE=T5frankie;625145]you know you are only supposed to use 215's on the front? even my 19's were 215's[/QUOTE] But I want more grip. ;)

Post 625162 by Harvey on 2013-07-13 20:53:07

[QUOTE=stribo;625148]But I want more grip. ;)[/QUOTE] To the test station ?.

Post 625164 by stribo on 2013-07-13 20:58:23

No, but I don't want to change my wheels for every MOT.

Post 625192 by JamesT5 on 2013-07-13 22:43:15

[QUOTE=stribo;624983]Took the C70 down for it's annual test, and it failed on the front wheels rubbing the wheel arch liner, because it's been lowered. Just had a look, and I think I should have fitted wheel spacers. Image[/QUOTE] Just a suggestion Steve, if you haven't already, get a 4 wheel alignment because mine were rubbing until I first got my wheels aligned. Also, isn't there a memo from Volvo about wheels rubbing?

Post 625193 by Biff on 2013-07-13 22:48:01

My fronts do on full front lock. Sounds to me like an anal tester with a problem with lowered cars.

Post 625195 by nobananas on 2013-07-13 22:52:55

Could you not fit thicker lock stop pads to decrease full lock a bit ?

Post 625196 by graemewelch on 2013-07-13 23:00:31

looking at those shocks it looks like its dumped in the weeds. did the tyres show up today or yesterday

Post 625197 by stribo on 2013-07-13 23:00:54

[QUOTE=nobananas;625195]Could you not fit thicker lock stop pads to decrease full lock a bit ?[/QUOTE] P1s don't have bolt on stops like P2s, also it's got blue stops which I believe are the thickest for a P1.

Post 625199 by stribo on 2013-07-13 23:02:33

[QUOTE=graemewelch;625196]looking at those shocks it looks like its dumped in the weeds. did the tyres show up today or yesterday[/QUOTE] Thursday mate, will be going on my Pegs once they've been refurbed.

Post 625200 by stribo on 2013-07-13 23:04:38

[QUOTE=JamesT5;625192]Just a suggestion Steve, if you haven't already, get a 4 wheel alignment because mine were rubbing until I first got my wheels aligned. Also, isn't there a memo from Volvo about wheels rubbing?[/QUOTE] I asked them to do the tracking, but they did the MOT first. TBH I think it's toeing out anyway, so an alignment might make it worse.

Post 625287 by Slrmoco on 2013-07-14 08:42:42

Stribo this is a loads of rubbish,THIS IS NOT A MOT FAILURE AT ALL,SPECIAL NOTE FOR ALL VOLVOS FWD WITH THAT TOLERANCE,HENCE WHY THEY HAVE A METAL PLATE OVER THE PLASTIC INNER ARCH,TRUST ME ON THAT ONE MY MOT CENTRE WHO DOES ALL MY CARS,NEVER ADVISE ON THAT AND ALWAYS SAYS THAT IS OK FOR VOLVOS AS YOU ALL KNOW AND HEIS VERY SEVERE ON EVERYTHING. I SUGGEST THAT YOU TAKE YOUR MOT ELSEWHERE Seb

Post 625355 by Harvey on 2013-07-14 10:55:34

[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;625004]Anyway I'm keeping My fingers crossed as I've just dropped the V40 at the MOT station (might be done today, might not)..[/QUOTE] So did it pass or not ?.

Post 625391 by JUDGENINJA on 2013-07-14 12:17:53

Nope...Link to project thread.. [Quote]Well news is not overly bad: Airbag ECU fault - this maybe the box itself not being coded to the car?? I wasn't told that I needed it doing. Airbag fault Drivers side - I've been always looking at the passenger side, so I'm hoping a dodgy wire. Anyway garage is going to keep the car for the repair ... And finally the usual drop links. I had cheaply ones from Eurocarparts, so off on the hunt for some decent ones..[/quote]

Post 626065 by stribo on 2013-07-16 21:29:17

Having raised the front by 30mm at the weekend, I took it for the retest today, and pased with flying colours. :D

Post 626085 by V70 Graham on 2013-07-16 23:12:44

[QUOTE=stribo;626065]Having raised the front by 30mm at the weekend, I took it for the retest today, and pased with flying colours. :D[/QUOTE] That's what we like to hear, good on ya.

Post 626089 by M-R-P on 2013-07-16 23:20:38

Well done mate ;)

Post 626096 by JUDGENINJA on 2013-07-16 23:44:26

........ and immediately dropped afterwards?

Post 626103 by M-R-P on 2013-07-17 00:00:57

[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;626096]........ and immediately dropped afterwards?[/QUOTE] Like you need to ask lol.

Post 626163 by stribo on 2013-07-17 07:06:35

It will be Saturday, the test centre even told me to drop it before I took it back to have the tracking done. :slap:

Post 626173 by partsforvolvos.com on 2013-07-17 08:45:51

only just read this, as others have already correctly pointed out it is only a fail if the wheel touches when stationary on full lock. evidence of conflict whilst manouvering because the body has moved andtyre touched the liner is never a fail.

Post 626184 by stribo on 2013-07-17 10:24:32

I think the tester was just overly picky, won't be going back there next year.