Project Cabbie.
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Post 661528 by stribo on 2013-11-17 19:21:19
We picked up our hairdressers car today, drove back all the way with the oil light on, flickering off occasionally, and no boost whatsoever, but no noise from a leaking hose, and none of them seem loose. Biggest problem of the day though was when we got it home, I lowered the roof, to make it easier to clean the interior out, then opened the boot to clean that out too. When I shut the boot the boot open warning light stayed on, and the roof won't raise (I'm guessing the roof won't raise if it thinks the boots open). Anyway I tried changing the lock mechanism over with my car, but no luck, then tried shorting the plug with a bit of wire to get the light out, but that didn't work either. To make matters worse I shut the boot without reconnecting the plug, so now I can't open it! Tried the key that doesn't open it, and obviously the interior release won't work.
So has anyone got any ideas how I can get into the boot? I've had a look at the ski hatch but it has a plastic liner, and I don't think my arm's long enough anyway, and once the boot's open, any ideas how I can get the boot open warning light off?
A couple of pics:
Post 661530 by Jamest5r on 2013-11-17 19:24:11
Sorry mate but I just pmsl at that post lucky you got a garage
Post 661534 by V70 Graham on 2013-11-17 19:27:03
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;661530]Sorry mate but I just pmsl at that post lucky you got a garage[/QUOTE]
You've obviously not seen all the stuff in his garage !
Sorry to hear that Steve, I suppose a code reader would clear the light (wouldn't it)
Post 661535 by stribo on 2013-11-17 19:27:51
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;661530]Sorry mate but I just pmsl at that post lucky you got a garage[/QUOTE]
Yeah, was a rush job tidying it though, as it looked like this:
Post 661536 by stribo on 2013-11-17 19:28:52
[QUOTE=V70 Graham;661534]You've obviously not seen all the stuff in his garage !
Sorry to hear that Steve, I suppose a code reader would clear the light (wouldn't it)[/QUOTE]
Not a boot open light, would only do engine management light.
Post 661548 by Biff on 2013-11-17 19:42:33
Sorry mate can't help you but sounds like something I would do.
Car looks well!! :)
Post 661555 by oblark on 2013-11-17 19:49:06
This is sign.......................... you know the answer :)
Post 661556 by stribo on 2013-11-17 19:49:48
[quote=oblark;661555]this is sign.......................... You know the answer :)[/quote]
[size=7]no.[/size]
Post 661558 by oblark on 2013-11-17 19:54:45
Who in they right mind fitted a tow bar to a C70 rag top !
Post 661559 by Nealevo on 2013-11-17 19:55:34
Will Charlie not fit through the ski hatch ??
Post 661561 by V70 Graham on 2013-11-17 20:01:00
[QUOTE=Nealevo;661559]Will Charlie not fit through the ski hatch ??[/QUOTE]
Good thinking Neal, he has to start earning his keep sometime lol
Post 661564 by stribo on 2013-11-17 20:14:30
[QUOTE=Nealevo;661559]Will Charlie not fit through the ski hatch ??[/QUOTE]
We can't get him out of the drivers seat:
Post 661565 by stribo on 2013-11-17 20:16:13
[QUOTE=oblark;661558]Who in they right mind fitted a tow bar to a C70 rag top ![/QUOTE]
Pass, it's a removeable one though.
Post 661634 by jamesy12345 on 2013-11-18 03:20:04
A little bit of info here, hopefully it's just the boot lid switch knackered...
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=171704
Post 661648 by iancho on 2013-11-18 07:57:19
You probably need too heat the boot lock with a Hairdryer or Curling Tongs :P
Post 661650 by Kingsford G on 2013-11-18 08:01:38
Can`t you get in by folding the back seats down?If it was close enough I`m sure I`d open it,dome many others in the past.Now if you are nice to Mr.Handyman he might help you.:)
Post 661663 by stribo on 2013-11-18 10:12:18
[QUOTE=Kingsford G;661650]Can`t you get in by folding the back seats down?If it was close enough I`m sure I`d open it,dome many others in the past.Now if you are nice to Mr.Handyman he might help you.:)[/QUOTE]
The back seats don't fold down, and the ski hatch is lined so gives no access to the boot, think I'll try taking the back seats out.
Post 661666 by oblark on 2013-11-18 10:29:07
Just cut the boot open with a disc cutter :)
Post 661671 by M-R-P on 2013-11-18 10:39:28
By "lined", can you not get a tool of some kind in there to grab the plug?
Also, being made for the US market, does it have an internal boot release handle?
Post 661673 by oblark on 2013-11-18 10:44:51
[QUOTE=M-R-P;661671]By "lined", can you not get a tool of some kind in there to grab the plug?
Also, being made for the US market, [COLOR="#FF0000"]does it have an internal boot release handle[/COLOR]?[/QUOTE]
I think it`s broke :(
Post 661677 by M-R-P on 2013-11-18 10:58:01
I mean one actually in the boot, usually on the boot lid itself. The yanks are really big on "trunk entrapment" (too many gangster movies lol) so they insist on having a method of escape in case you become trapped in your own boot.... why you'd get trapped in your own boot is beyond me... unless the Americans haven't realised that the the light DOES go out when you close the boot.
I wonder how many yanks get trapped inside their own fridge, trying to solve that exact same conundrum...?
Post 661682 by jamesy12345 on 2013-11-18 12:01:16
[QUOTE=M-R-P;661677]I mean one actually in the boot, usually on the boot lid itself. The yanks are really big on "trunk entrapment" (too many gangster movies lol) so they insist on having a method of escape in case you become trapped in your own boot.... why you'd get trapped in your own boot is beyond me... unless the Americans haven't realised that the the light DOES go out when you close the boot.
I wonder how many yanks get trapped inside their own fridge, trying to solve that exact same conundrum...?[/QUOTE]
If a tree falls over in the forest and there is no-one there to hear, does it make a noise?
Post 661684 by M-R-P on 2013-11-18 12:05:17
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;661682]If a tree falls over in the forest and there is no-one there to hear, does it make a noise?[/QUOTE]
Sound, by definition, is the detection of fluctuations in ambient air pressure caused by a physical event. If there's nothing there to detect the fluctuation, does it still make a sound?
Of course it bloody does. It's like saying a light bulb doesn't work unless there's someone around to see it.
:D
Post 661687 by jamesy12345 on 2013-11-18 12:17:55
[QUOTE=M-R-P;661684]Sound, by definition, is the detection of fluctuations in ambient air pressure caused by a physical event. If there's nothing there to detect the fluctuation, does it still make a sound?
Of course it bloody does. It's like saying a light bulb doesn't work unless there's someone around to see it.
:D[/QUOTE]
Fair do's. In space no-one can hear you scream and all that. Unless you are Sandra Bullock. Righto then, there's this cat, in a box, is it alive or dead...?
Post 661688 by V70 Graham on 2013-11-18 12:25:07
[QUOTE=M-R-P;661684]Sound, by definition, is the detection of fluctuations in ambient air pressure caused by a physical event. If there's nothing there to detect the fluctuation, does it still make a sound?
Of course it bloody does. It's like saying a light bulb doesn't work unless there's someone around to see it.
:D[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;661687]Fair do's. In space no-one can hear you scream and all that. Unless you are Sandra Bullock. Righto then, there's this cat, in a box, is it alive or dead...?[/QUOTE]
How on earth will this help Steve get into his boot lol
Post 661689 by M-R-P on 2013-11-18 12:28:51
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;661687]Fair do's. In space no-one can hear you scream and all that. Unless you are Sandra Bullock. [/QUOTE]
Sigourney Weaver ;)
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;661687] Righto then, there's this cat, in a box, is it alive or dead...?[/QUOTE]
That would depend largely on how hard you've been hitting the box.
[QUOTE=V70 Graham;661688]How on earth will this help Steve get into his boot lol[/QUOTE]
Who?
Post 661690 by jamesy12345 on 2013-11-18 12:34:19
[QUOTE=V70 Graham;661688]How on earth will this help Steve get into his boot lol[/QUOTE]
Just trying to help work out how to tell if the boot light is still on, if the guy inside is still alive and, if so, can anyone hear him
Post 661694 by stephenevans99 on 2013-11-18 12:53:04
Found this on how to remove the rear seat:
[I][B]Remove the seat base - this just pops up with a bit of lifting force in the front corners.
You can then get to the 2 bolts that hold the backrest in the bottom corners. The seatbelts need to be removed too - Hint, cable tie the seatbelt clips together. This stops them being recoiled into the recess which would be difficult to get them out of again. Once these bolts have been removed the seat will tilt forwards from the bottom.
Here's the tricky bit, you need to reach behind the seat to release the headrest - there's a little clip holding it in at the base of the headrest post. Difficult to explain, but easy to feel for. Once both headrests are out, the seat back will just lift (upwards) and out. Job done!!!
I think this can only be done with the roof down.[/B][/I]
Hope the cat in the box is ok ;)
Post 661697 by stribo on 2013-11-18 13:08:07
[QUOTE=oblark;661666]Just cut the boot open with a disc cutter :)[/QUOTE]
Feck off :P
[QUOTE=M-R-P;661671]By "lined", can you not get a tool of some kind in there to grab the plug?
Also, being made for the US market, does it have an internal boot release handle?[/QUOTE]
No, no internal handle, I think that's a more recent thing.
[QUOTE=stephenevans99;661694]Found this on how to remove the rear seat:
[I][B]Remove the seat base - this just pops up with a bit of lifting force in the front corners.
You can then get to the 2 bolts that hold the backrest in the bottom corners. The seatbelts need to be removed too - Hint, cable tie the seatbelt clips together. This stops them being recoiled into the recess which would be difficult to get them out of again. Once these bolts have been removed the seat will tilt forwards from the bottom.
Here's the tricky bit, you need to reach behind the seat to release the headrest - there's a little clip holding it in at the base of the headrest post. Difficult to explain, but easy to feel for. Once both headrests are out, the seat back will just lift (upwards) and out. Job done!!!
I think this can only be done with the roof down.[/B][/I]
Hope the cat in the box is ok ;)[/QUOTE]
Thanks mate most helpful. :B_thumb:
Post 661701 by partsforvolvos.com on 2013-11-18 13:15:05
[QUOTE=stribo;661663]The back seats don't fold down, and the ski hatch is lined so gives no access to the boot, think I'll try taking the back seats out.[/QUOTE]
its a solid bulkhead. got a feeling you cant get in that way. but there might be holes for subs there .
Post 661702 by M-R-P on 2013-11-18 13:16:51
[QUOTE=partsforvolvos.com;661701]its a solid bulkhead[/QUOTE]
...With 2 10" holes in it, plus the ski hatch.
Post 662880 by AndysR on 2013-11-23 16:46:46
I like the colour of that,and it works well with the interior colour too, that said it doesn't sound like it's got a lot going for it if the roof is faulty and the engine is potentially fubbard though... Hope they're all simple fixes...
Post 662883 by stribo on 2013-11-23 16:51:07
[QUOTE=AndysR;662880]I like the colour of that,and it works well with the interior colour too, that said it doesn't sound like it's got a lot going for it if the roof is faulty and the engine is potentially fubbard though... Hope they're all simple fixes...[/QUOTE]
It's not the roof, it's the boot open warning light, I think a wire may be broken somewhere.
Post 662892 by AndysR on 2013-11-23 17:04:37
[QUOTE=stribo;662883]It's not the roof, it's the boot open warning light, I think a wire may be broken somewhere.[/QUOTE]
May not be that bad after all then? Perhaps worst case scenario you could break a rear light to gain access into the boot if they are the sort that the bulb holder is removed from inside the car?
Do you know what's wrong with the oil light, I am guessing it's electrical because you'd be foolish to drive it with an oil pressure fault.
Post 662895 by stribo on 2013-11-23 17:09:35
I'm thinking it's the sensor, there's no noise from the engine to suggest it's got low oil pressure, even the top end is quiet, and I'd expect it to be quite tappety if there was low oil pressure.
Post 662902 by V70 Graham on 2013-11-23 17:20:37
Did you manage to get into/look at the boot today mate ?
Post 662905 by stribo on 2013-11-23 17:24:02
No mate, I'll have to do it tomorrow, which means I won't be at the Vine. :(
Post 663306 by Harvey on 2013-11-24 13:57:27
Nice to see the roof up,so not to bad of a job..
Post 663308 by stribo on 2013-11-24 13:59:25
[QUOTE=Harvey;663306]Nice to see the roof up,so not to bad of a job..[/QUOTE]
The hardest part was getting the boot open because of the restricted access to the boot.
Post 663312 by rikcougar on 2013-11-24 14:07:22
Nice work Steve,car looks in good nick
Have you sold the "R" or wrapped it round a tree?
Post 663317 by stribo on 2013-11-24 14:13:49
[QUOTE=rikcougar;663312]Nice work Steve,car looks in good nick
Have you sold the "R" or wrapped it round a tree?[/QUOTE]
No, still got the R, this one's is purely to do up and sell on though Rachel's taken a shine to it.lol
Post 663318 by V70 Graham on 2013-11-24 14:14:00
Glad to see the roof/boot are sorted mate, bet you won't be making that mistake again eh lol
Post 663319 by stribo on 2013-11-24 14:15:41
[QUOTE=V70 Graham;663318]Glad to see the roof/boot are sorted mate, bet you won't be making that mistake again eh lol[/QUOTE]
No, that's what happens when you're trying to work on the car, and look after a bored 1 year old. ;)
Post 663328 by oblark on 2013-11-24 14:53:11
Personally I would be concentrating on the low oil pressure. You now have a working roof but you could have ££££ed engine.
Post 663330 by stribo on 2013-11-24 14:57:28
Yes, but now the roof's up I've got the garage back.
Post 663341 by oblark on 2013-11-24 16:22:51
But the first thing you should have done when you got the car was to look at the oil pressure problem.
Post 663346 by stribo on 2013-11-24 16:27:17
I couldn't, the roof was stuck down, and as Rachel works weekends now I don't get a lot of time.
Post 663347 by oblark on 2013-11-24 16:29:50
I'll put my disc cutter away for the time being :)
Post 663970 by oblark on 2013-11-26 16:02:53
If you are after any cream coloured trim panels then I know where they are 2 ME7 C70`s in a breakers at Emsworth :)
Post 666904 by stribo on 2013-12-07 14:15:54
Right got a bit of time on the C70 today, first off I changed the coilpacks, with nice new ones:
The plastic piping around the wires has gone brittle, and is breaking up, is it worth wrapping them in insulation tape, or will they be o.k. left as is?
Second job was to adapt the boost hoses to bypass the intercooler to see if that was the cause of the boost leak:
Took the car for a spin, but there is still no boost. :slap: I'm guessing the turbo's goosed, as when I got back the pipe across the top of the engine was still cold, it also started making a screeching noise from the back of the engine as I was near home:
[video=youtube_share;y_XBttQX6PA]http://youtu.be/y_XBttQX6PA[/video]
So when I get time I'll take the inlet hose off and see if there's any movement in the turbo or if it's seized.
And Rob, the oil pressure problem will be checked when the oil pressure sensor arrives from JT, but the light hardly came on today.
Post 666908 by V70 Graham on 2013-12-07 14:39:18
My plastic piping has also gone brittle mate, I left mine like that and 18 months on everything is fine.
Post 666913 by mikealder on 2013-12-07 15:06:48
For the wiring to the coil packs get some new "split convoluted conduit" from the "bay" and replace it all, one it will look neater and secondly it will reduce the chances of bits of plastic dropping down the coil pack holes when you change the spark plugs.
As for your lack of boost are all the small vac lines connected, un-split and more importantly connected in the correct way, I would be checking the simple stuff such as this before assuming the turbo is goosed, also have a good look at the intercooler, is that holed or split, you won't get the turbo to spin up much with the car sat still but it is worth pulling the pipe of the turbos inlet and ensuring it can spin freely by hand.
For the oil pressure, I would replace the simple switch with a pressure sender then read the pressure on a gauge this lets you see what is going on with the oil pressure across a range of engine temperatures and revs, you can get sender units that act as dual function i.e. they provide a low pressure switch and give out an oil pressure signal for the gauge, this would be my first task on this engine before doing anything else as it could prove costly to fix if the oil pressure is as low as the light leads you to believe - Mike
Post 666915 by oblark on 2013-12-07 15:22:54
I think the oil pressure problem is nothing compared to the possible goosed turbo.
I'll warm the disc cutter up :)
Post 666924 by graemewelch on 2013-12-07 16:00:49
is that a d5 or a t5? i wouldnt be reving it or driving it. you can clearly hear theres a oil pressure issue. i bet the cams are now in poor condition. if it was mine. id rip the engine out and buy a new lump with turbo. i bet the turbo is either very worn or siezed due to lack of oil pressure.
Post 666946 by stribo on 2013-12-07 16:37:27
[QUOTE=mikealder;666913]For the wiring to the coil packs get some new "split convoluted conduit" from the "bay" and replace it all, one it will look neater and secondly it will reduce the chances of bits of plastic dropping down the coil pack holes when you change the spark plugs.
As for your lack of boost are all the small vac lines connected, un-split and more importantly connected in the correct way, I would be checking the simple stuff such as this before assuming the turbo is goosed,[COLOR="#FF0000"][COLOR="#FF0000"] also have a good look at the intercooler, is that holed or split,[/COLOR][/COLOR] you won't get the turbo to spin up much with the car sat still but it is worth pulling the pipe of the turbos inlet and ensuring it can spin freely by hand.
I changed the pipework to bypass the intercooler in order to rule out the intercooler.
For the oil pressure, I would replace the simple switch with a pressure sender then read the pressure on a gauge this lets you see what is going on with the oil pressure across a range of engine temperatures and revs, you can get sender units that act as dual function i.e. they provide a low pressure switch and give out an oil pressure signal for the gauge, this would be my first task on this engine before doing anything else as it could prove costly to fix if the oil pressure is as low as the light leads you to believe - Mike[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=oblark;666915]I think the oil pressure problem is nothing compared to the possible goosed turbo.
I'll warm the disc cutter up :)[/QUOTE]
Turbo's no problem, I have a spare. Step away from the disc cutter. :P
[QUOTE=graemewelch;666924]is that a d5 or a t5? i wouldnt be reving it or driving it. you can clearly hear theres a oil pressure issue. i bet the cams are now in poor condition. if it was mine. id rip the engine out and buy a new lump with turbo. i bet the turbo is either very worn or siezed due to lack of oil pressure.[/QUOTE]
It's no noisier than my C70, apart from the 'screeching' ;)
Post 666976 by oblark on 2013-12-07 17:09:18
:hilarious
isn`t the spare turbo meant to go on the gay gold c70 ??
Post 666978 by daza-b on 2013-12-07 17:12:45
That screeching sounds like a pully?
Post 666979 by rikcougar on 2013-12-07 17:13:46
[QUOTE=stribo;666946]Turbo's no problem, I have a spare. Step away from the disc cutter. :P
[COLOR="#FF0000"]It's no noisier than my C70[/COLOR], apart from the 'screeching' ;)[/QUOTE]
Sounds a lot like mine Steve
If there is no boost at all and everything is physically ok then check the maf
I have had two cars in the past that have suffered from the same problem, both of which were fixed with a new maf
Post 666980 by stribo on 2013-12-07 17:18:35
[QUOTE=oblark;666976]:hilarious
isn`t the spare turbo meant to go on the gay gold c70 ??[/QUOTE]
Yep, so they'll be the old one from my C70 spare. ;)
Post 666981 by stribo on 2013-12-07 17:19:31
[QUOTE=rikcougar;666979]Sounds a lot like mine Steve
If there is no boost at all and everything is physically ok then check the maf
I have had two cars in the past that have suffered from the same problem, both of which were fixed with a new maf[/QUOTE]
Thanks Rik, I probably should have mentioned that the rad fan runs all the time, I think that has something to do with a faulty MAF too.
Post 666982 by stribo on 2013-12-07 17:20:18
[QUOTE=daza-b;666978]That screeching sounds like a pully?[/QUOTE]
It does, but it's coming from the back of the engine, so I'm guessing turbo.
Post 666986 by T5frankie on 2013-12-07 17:24:45
bloody mafs do my bloody head in, i need another one now too
Post 666988 by stribo on 2013-12-07 17:27:34
[QUOTE=T5frankie;666986]bloody mafs do my bloody head in, i need another one now too[/QUOTE]
Luckily I have a spare MAF too, funny how many spare parts you can accumulate in 18 months.
Post 667111 by AndysR on 2013-12-07 22:49:45
I would swap the maf of your other car for testing purposes and see if that improves the boosting, but not before I was happy that the oil pressure light issue was just a sender fault and not an actual pressure fault as you will do a lot of damage in not a lot of time if you continue to use it with low to no oil pressure, if the pressure is at fault then it's very possible the noise your hearing from the turbo is indeed the turbo internals being destroyed due to insufficient lubrication. Fingers crossed it's simply the maf and oil pressure switch that are the issues, if it was my car however I wouldn't be so lucky on both counts.
In respect of the wiring covers I'd replace them for piece of mind and as mentioned above without the brittle plastic lying around you will have no chance of it entering the engine by accident when you change the plugs during a service etc.
Post 667122 by merc85 on 2013-12-07 22:59:00
I've had oil pressure switches leak before but they still continued to do there job. Its quite rare for one to fail, why not take the switch out of the c70 coupe and try that in the cab?
Doesn't sound good tbh :(
Post 708705 by stribo on 2014-05-04 10:25:31
Well, project cabbie is over before it really began. About 4 weeks ago one of our neighbours hit it with their company van. :( It only needs the wing replacing and the front bumper respraying, but the insurance company have written it off. On the plus side they're giving us £1075 for it which is over double what we paid for it. :D
