I've been looking for some con-rods and have found these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400485205689?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648 all looks fine except the big end dia is 53mm and the book of lie's say it should be 50mm can this be got round or do I need to keep looking?
Is the 3mm the thickness of the shell
it says 53mm in my pocket databook for a b5234t for the rods. the big end bearings are 50mm, so I guess that means the bearings are 3mm thick. anybody else confirm ?
They should be a standard bore for the big end bearing, no reason to make them oversize Wobbly Dave is probably the man with the answer
Save any risk just get a set from Don/kalmar union many are/have used them about 360 quid the set
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;696270]Save any risk just get a set from Don/kalmar union many are/have used them about 360 quid the set[/QUOTE] Thats £100 more
[QUOTE=soothingduck;696271]Thats £100 more[/QUOTE] just looked and they are £396.50 on Ebay £260.00
[QUOTE=partsforvolvos.com;696259]it says 53mm in my pocket databook for a b5234t for the rods. the big end bearings are 50mm, so I guess that means the bearings are 3mm thick. anybody else confirm ?[/QUOTE] This is how I understand it
Regrinds are classed as Undersize and cannot be Oversize!
[QUOTE=960kg;696279]Regrinds are classed as Undersize and cannot be Oversize![/QUOTE] So the con-rod big-end dia is 53mm and so the Ebay rods are correct
Ordered Thanks gents
[QUOTE=960kg;696279]Regrinds are classed as Undersize and cannot be Oversize![/QUOTE] I thought we were discussing the big end bore in the conrod not the crankpin?
I spent 100 quid per rod for K1 tech rods. They are US made. I've spent money on where I believe it really counts because once the rods are in there, there is little you can do about it.
The car will only be abit better than stock when finished,so I think they should be ok.
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;696270]Save any risk just get a set from Don/kalmar union many are/have used them about 360 quid the set[/QUOTE]# James, thank you for that! You can find them and order here on my website: http://kalmar-union.com/parts/volvo-850_s70_v70_c70-engine/ The price includes VAT and UK mainland delivery by TNT. The supplier quoted earlier is in Hong Kong so you would have to pay freight to the UK and, depending on just how it is delivered to you there should be VAT to pay. Regards, Don.
[QUOTE=don kalmar union;696464] The supplier quoted earlier is in Hong Kong so you would have to pay freight to the UK and, depending on just how it is delivered to you there should be VAT to pay. Regards, Don.[/QUOTE] Free delivery but the VAT and import duty is going to be a wallop.
I know I will need to pay vat but it will not be £135
I stand corrected Andy on the free delivery from HK. The VAT payable will be about £60 and there should be no other duties although there may be extra UK handling charges and other hidden extras payable prior to delivery. My sets also contain ARP bolts and I naturally buy them from a fellow in China whose brother has a take away at the bottom of my street........ Don.
[QUOTE=don kalmar union;696513]I stand corrected Andy on the free delivery from HK. The VAT payable will be about £60 and there should be no other duties although there may be extra UK handling charges and other hidden extras payable prior to delivery. My sets also contain ARP bolts and are I naturally buy them from a fellow in China whose brother has a take away at the bottom of my street........ Don.[/QUOTE] Oh dear
Con-rods £260 on Ebay plus £11 import duty. That's £130 cheaper than your's
[QUOTE=soothingduck;697881]Con-rods £260 on Ebay plus £11 import duty. That's £130 cheaper than your's[/QUOTE] Don't forget to add the bolts in :)
They come with ARP 2000 bolts and lube
ive never had import fees from HK/china etc....only usa- the swines!
[QUOTE=T5RatherAmusin;697888]ive never had import fees from HK/china etc....only usa- the swines![/QUOTE] Yeah same here but at £11 I'm not moaning.
:) also see the 2.5 ones are a little cheaper :)
[QUOTE=T5RatherAmusin;697891]:) also see the 2.5 ones are a little cheaper :)[/QUOTE] You just can't knock it Chine is slowing down a bit so they are keen.
Half the stuff we buy from uk seller's comes from china anyway. I was in retail so I know how it works. The list price was £285 but took £260 offer,
[QUOTE=T5RatherAmusin;697891]:) also see the 2.5 ones are a little cheaper :)[/QUOTE] S60R 2.5's are 143mm long, pre-ME7 2.3's are 139mm, & ME7 2.3's are 147mm
2.3 with 147mm rod = loads of torque
[QUOTE=soothingduck;697897]2.3 with 147mm rod = loads of torque[/QUOTE] im under the impression 2.4 t5 share the R rods bt if your saying the 2.3 are longer they obv dont share the same bore.... (2.3 and 4)
[QUOTE=p fandango;697896]S60R 2.5's are 143mm long, pre-ME7 2.3's are 139mm, & ME7 2.3's are 147mm[/QUOTE] I was just quoting this and saying the longer rod would give it more torque.
ye i kinda dint mean to quote yours tbh lol ;)
[QUOTE=p fandango;697896]S60R 2.5's are 143mm long, pre-ME7 2.3's are 139mm, & ME7 2.3's are 147mm[/QUOTE] so do the s60r ones fit the 2.4 t5.
[QUOTE=T5RatherAmusin;697899]im under the impression 2.4 t5 share the R rods bt if your saying the 2.3 are longer they obv dont share the same bore.... (2.3 and 4)[/QUOTE] i thought the same but i was told 2.4 t5 rods arnt as strong as the 2.5 s60r
I thought there was 2 sizes one 139mm for the 2.3's and one 143mm for the s60r 2.5's No idea about the 2.4's
Anyway the point is that I have 5 nice shiny rods that should cope really well in a sub 300 hp engine and are whisking they're way by DHL rickshaw and should be here in the morning. If i'm not in I believe they will drop them off at my local takeaway.
[QUOTE=soothingduck;697906]I thought there was 2 sizes one 139mm for the 2.3's and one 143mm for the s60r 2.5's No idea about the 2.4's[/QUOTE] ye i get this this. a 2.3 set and a 2.5 set then a 2.4 woulvd been 2.5 rods and 2.3 bore... are these for that engine that are supose to already have them done?
[QUOTE=soothingduck;697897]2.3 with 147mm rod = loads of torque[/QUOTE]
you'll need the shorter ME7 pistons to go with it
850 left, ME7 (aftermarket) right
[QUOTE=graemewelch;697902]so do the s60r ones fit the 2.4 t5.[/QUOTE] if your using the 93mm stroke, & ME7 pistons then yes you'd want the S60R (143mm) rods bore x stroke 81mm x 90mm = 2318.9cc 81mm x 93mm = 2396.2cc 83mm x 90mm = 2434.8cc 83mm x 93mm = 2516.0cc
My engine it a 2.3 and my rods are 139.5mm which are for bt52**t3 engines. I will reuse the volvo pistons. The 143mm are for the others
[QUOTE=soothingduck;697912]My engine it a 2.3 and my rods are 139.5mm which are for bt52**t3 engines. I will reuse the volvo pistons. The 143mm are for the others[/QUOTE] while you've got the engine apart, have you thought about changing the crank to a later one (post 2002). 2.8kg lighter
[QUOTE=p fandango;697913]while you've got the engine apart, have you thought about changing the crank to a later one (post 2002). 2.8kg lighter[/QUOTE] urmm would this be a direct fit? and I wonder where I would find one :deal:
[QUOTE=p fandango;697913]while you've got the engine apart, have you thought about changing the crank to a later one (post 2002). 2.8kg lighter[/QUOTE] Also what would be the gain?
[QUOTE=p fandango;697911]if your using the 93mm stroke, & ME7 pistons then yes you'd want the S60R (143mm) rods bore x stroke 81mm x 90mm = 2318.9cc 81mm x 93mm = 2396.2cc 83mm x 90mm = 2434.8cc 83mm x 93mm = 2516.0cc[/QUOTE] im sure the 2.5 has a larger bore. thats why the are weaker than the 2.4t5
[QUOTE=graemewelch;697916]im sure the 2.5 has a larger bore. thats why the are weaker than the 2.4t5[/QUOTE] for the B5244T5 Volvo went with the 81mm x 93mm so the S60R has got a wider bore
[QUOTE=soothingduck;697915]Also what would be the gain?[/QUOTE] lighter rotating mass means quick rpm build-up
[QUOTE=soothingduck;697914]urmm would this be a direct fit? and I wonder where I would find one :deal:[/QUOTE] might need to check the tolerances on the main bearing but that'll be all. I got mine off ebay for £125, thats a 93mm stroke tho
[QUOTE=p fandango;697920]might need to check the tolerances on the main bearing but that'll be all. I got mine off ebay for £125, thats a 93mm stroke tho[/QUOTE] and I would need a 90mm stroke?
[QUOTE=soothingduck;697921]and I would need a 90mm stroke?[/QUOTE] yep, or you'd need shorter rods
I came across this thread on the net http://volvospeed.com/vs_forum/topic/155507-aftermarket-rods-china-comparison/
Something I've been wondering for a while.....can you change the rods & crank from below only, or do you need to take the head off as well as the sump....?
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;697950]Something I've been wondering for a while.....can you change the rods & crank from below only, or do you need to take the head off as well as the sump....?[/QUOTE] head needs to come off.
[quote=graemewelch;697953]head needs to come off.[/quote] doh
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;697954]doh[/QUOTE] not a big job realy.
ooooh my heads already off!!! hmmm I wonder if she would notice if a parcel came through the door?? anyone fancy taking delivery for me lol
[QUOTE=theflyingbrick;697979]ooooh my heads already off!!! hmmm I wonder if she would notice if a parcel came through the door?? anyone fancy taking delivery for me lol[/QUOTE] Yeah, send them here mate, I promise they won't end up in my engine.;)
No send them to me because I can make them look like a old Volvo set so she would never know.:saint:
yeah no worries fellas as soon as I have your bank account details lol
Well they are here and look great Fantastic service from seller so fast, 6 days delivery. Next on the list is volvo dealer
that was quick! pics dude!
Here you go [ATTACH=CONFIG]24262[/ATTACH] not sure if it works
6 days?? I struggle to get stuff in the u.k delivered quicker lol looks like you've done well with this purchase,im gonna save the link for future reference ;)
They look really good. Looks like the shell is cracked rather than cut. I've not had one apart yet but they do look that way. Got a list as long as my arm for Volvo. Think i'm going with Caffyns in Eastbourne seemed like a nice man and happy to do a deal also said he would put it in as a stock order and a bit of discount. Then the rest with PFV One thing I noticed on PFV was a boost gauge for £25ish yet a AEM boost gauge is £125. Is the AEM one better?
sweet! same here dude! massive list! hella loada goodie with me next week :D get yourself a prosport evo gauge. very acurate and.... think it cost me boot 60 bob [ATTACH=CONFIG]24267[/ATTACH]
I would prefer analog for both boost and AFR to be honest.
for what reason? it has the bar graph that goes arond too.... if your cars quick it help to quick glance at it and not pretty much guess boost lol prosport do some good gauges tho bud ;)
I like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121047498466?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648 Coz it's prity
isit? :uglyhamme
[QUOTE=T5RatherAmusin;698343]isit? :uglyhamme[/QUOTE] Think i'm a bit older than you mate(room for a old guy smiley here)
hahahaa im one of the young ones here, yes. just turned 25 :pimp2:
[QUOTE=T5RatherAmusin;698347]hahahaa im one of the young ones here, yes. just turned 25 :pimp2:[/QUOTE] just turned 50 :pimp2:
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