Going up from 18" to 19".... Question.???

Post 701040 by Storm-Troll on 2014-04-05 13:43:51

Hey guys. Question time. Im thinking about going up to 19" alloys from standard 18". I just went to get 4 wheel Laser alignment checked and mentioned that I was planning on going up. They guy said he would not recommend it as going up a size will mean a reduction on tire size making it easier to crack a new alloy as less tire on it to protect it. Plus he thinks it would be a less comfortable ride with less rubber on. Im currently running 235/40/18s. is this guy talking sense or can anyone who has done this say otherwise. Thought id ask before spending lots of pennies.... :uglyhamme

Post 701041 by Tomcat on 2014-04-05 13:52:35

Think he's talking about keeping the same rolling radius so yeah if you go up a size on the wheel you need to go down a profile on the tyres size, ie.. thinner tyres means stiffer ride.

Post 701042 by Storm-Troll on 2014-04-05 13:53:50

[QUOTE=Tomcat;701041]Think he's talking about keeping the same rolling radius so yeah if you go up a size on the wheel you need to go down a profile on the tyres size, ie.. thinner tyres means stiffer ride.[/QUOTE] Cheers Tomcat... long time no see :funkybana

Post 701043 by Tomcat on 2014-04-05 14:01:30

[QUOTE=Storm-Troll;701042]Cheers Tomcat... long time no see :funkybana[/QUOTE] Lol isn't it??.. Hope you're well bud!

Post 701045 by stephenevans99 on 2014-04-05 14:06:35

If you're going to 19s with a 35 profile...make sure they're decent quality alloys, otherwise they'll be knackered at the first pothole you hit.

Post 701048 by Storm-Troll on 2014-04-05 14:08:43

[QUOTE=Tomcat;701043]Lol isn't it??.. Hope you're well bud![/QUOTE] Yeah been a hard few years.. Mum dies 2 years ago and dad dies 5 months ago so its been a tough couple years but im back up and running again :bounce:

Post 701049 by Storm-Troll on 2014-04-05 14:10:18

[QUOTE=stephenevans99;701045]If you're going to 19s with a 35 profile...make sure they're decent quality alloys, otherwise they'll be knackered at the first pothole you hit.[/QUOTE] cheers mate.. I know what your saying. I may well just stay with 18" and get a different style. pot hole city round here in london...

Post 701062 by Tomcat on 2014-04-05 14:33:45

[QUOTE=Storm-Troll;701048]Yeah been a hard few years.. Mum dies 2 years ago and dad dies 5 months ago so its been a tough couple years but im back up and running again :bounce:[/QUOTE] Oh sorry bud, hope you're ok. Good to see you again.

Post 701063 by Storm-Troll on 2014-04-05 14:39:09

[QUOTE=Tomcat;701062]Oh sorry bud, hope you're ok. Good to see you again.[/QUOTE] Cheers mate. yes Im good. took a while to get back on form but im here

Post 701064 by p fandango on 2014-04-05 14:41:05

i've got 19's on the Bimmer (215/35/19) & even tho i admit i'm more tolerant than most, i really don't find the ride bad at all. Even the folks have never complained about it when they've been out, although they don't like the floor scrapping over speed bumps lol.

Post 701066 by Storm-Troll on 2014-04-05 14:56:00

[QUOTE=p fandango;701064]i've got 19's on the Bimmer (215/35/19) & even tho i admit i'm more tolerant than most, i really don't find the ride bad at all. Even the folks have never complained about it when they've been out, although they don't like the floor scrapping over speed bumps lol. [/QUOTE] lol. that is a road hugger I must say.. My main idea was to fill out the wheel arches a bit more but going up a wize wheel and down a size tire means the arch gap will stay the same as it is now so I may as well stay with 18s and just change the style... Im thinking of going for 5 spoke black wheels this time.. I get few up with cleaning grubby brake dust off so Black will be the lazy mans option lol....

Post 701067 by stribo on 2014-04-05 15:00:03

I'm running 35 profile tyres albeit on 18" rims, but don't find they've made the ride any worse, though as the car's on coilovers the ride isn't that great anyway.

Post 701068 by p fandango on 2014-04-05 15:00:20

[QUOTE=Storm-Troll;701066]lol. that is a road hugger I must say.. My main idea was to fill out the wheel arches a bit more but going up a wize wheel and down a size tire means the arch gap will stay the same as it is now so I may as well stay with 18s and just change the style... Im thinking of going for 5 spoke black wheels this time.. I get few up with cleaning grubby brake dust off so Black will be the lazy mans option lol....[/QUOTE] your going to have to lower it then :). I don't think black wheels will help, the wheels merge with the tyre making them look smaller

Post 701070 by gwrt5 on 2014-04-05 15:05:36

Also consider the effect of unsprung mass of the wheel , cornering hard , 35 profiles look great I've seen cars on 15 wich is mental thin , but yes potholes beware lol , try a basic lowering spring , or go with a coilover set for your car to allow you to drop the ride Hight and and gives you options for rebound dampening etc , I'm currently looking at dropping mind to get the same effect that you are after , as my arch gap is horrendous tbh

Post 701085 by Santa on 2014-04-05 16:24:45

I prefer the ride on 18's then I did on 19's but didn't find I was cracking alloys on every pothole.

Post 701179 by foammanmark on 2014-04-05 19:49:19

My C70 had 19's on when I bought her, but with the coilovers, making the ride too harsh for us. Also the blue steering lock stops made the already poor turning circle even worse, so I swapped to 17's so my mrs could drive the car. 19's looked wicked, but not practical imo, but each to their own............

Post 701192 by M-R-P on 2014-04-05 20:07:05

Jimka has 19" ixion wheels on his C70 and the ride is still really nice.. and they look awesome too lol.

Post 701199 by foammanmark on 2014-04-05 20:14:56

[QUOTE=M-R-P;701192]Jimka has 19" ixion wheels on his C70 and the ride is still really nice.. and they look awesome too lol.[/QUOTE] Mine looked wicked, but kerbs scared me and the coilovers were on the firmest setting not helping to make the ride any better. I decided to part with them, and she went onto Titans for a while.

Post 701203 by foammanmark on 2014-04-05 20:17:32

Here she is when I bought her:-

Post 701204 by stribo on 2014-04-05 20:18:36

[QUOTE=foammanmark;701179]My C70 had 19's on when I bought her, but with the coilovers, making the ride too harsh for us. Also the blue steering lock stops made the already poor turning circle even worse, so I swapped to 17's so my mrs could drive the car. 19's looked wicked, but not practical imo, but each to their own............[/QUOTE] My C70 has 235's on it, and on coilovers as well, so you can guess what the turning circle's like. ;) Still better than the S60R though. I'll probably fit some 10mm spacers, just to improve it a bit.

Post 701208 by foammanmark on 2014-04-05 20:23:00

[QUOTE=stribo;701204]My C70 has 235's on it, and on coilovers as well, so you can guess what the turning circle's like. ;) Still better than the S60R though. I'll probably fit some 10mm spacers, just to improve it a bit.[/QUOTE] The S60R but have a really poor turning circle then. I have a load of spacers here, but I'm not sure of the size/s, so I'll take a look in case you could use them.

Post 701211 by stribo on 2014-04-05 20:25:28

[QUOTE=foammanmark;701208]The S60R but have a really poor turning circle then. I have a load of spacers here, but I'm not sure of the size/s, so I'll take a look in case you could use them.[/QUOTE] Thanks mate, would be appreciated. Yeah, as MRP puts it, the wheels on the S60R don't turn, they just lean in the direction you want to go.

Post 701212 by foammanmark on 2014-04-05 20:27:47

[QUOTE=stribo;701211]Thanks mate, would be appreciated. Yeah, as MRP puts it, the wheels on the S60R don't turn, they just lean in the direction you want to go.[/QUOTE] Lol, if MRP says that then it must be bad. You're welcome to whatever is here, cos I ain't using them. Please remind me if I don't get back to you, as my memory is poor.......at best.

Post 701216 by MIKESC70T5 on 2014-04-05 20:37:32

Mine has the factory optional, front: 225/40 ZR19, rear: 255/35 ZR19 and I find the ride fine. Driven ones with the standard front: 225/45 ZR18, rear: 255/40 ZR18 and it was more comfortable and handled better but for looks 19's look a lot better. Obviously 18's are a lot cheaper tyres to replace though so may be something to consider.

Post 701217 by foammanmark on 2014-04-05 20:39:45

Post 701222 by stribo on 2014-04-05 20:49:57

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;701216]Mine has the factory optional, front: 225/40 ZR19, rear: 255/35 ZR19 and I find the ride fine. Driven ones with the standard front: 225/45 ZR18, rear: 255/40 ZR18 and it was more comfortable and handled better but for looks 19's look a lot better. Obviously 18's are a lot cheaper tyres to replace though so may be something to consider.[/QUOTE] But your's has 40 profile tyres on 225s, and 35 profile on 255s, so still a decent sidewall, 90mm on the front, and 89.25mm on the rear, mine at 235/35/18 has 82.25mm all round, if the OP is looking at 215/35/19 then he'll only have a 75.25mm sidewall.

Post 701223 by MIKESC70T5 on 2014-04-05 20:57:06

[QUOTE=stribo;701222]But your's has 40 profile tyres on 225s, and 35 profile on 255s, so still a decent sidewall, 90mm on the front, and 89.25mm on the rear, mine at 235/35/18 has 82.25mm all round, if the OP is looking at 215/35/19 then he'll only have a 75.25mm sidewall.[/QUOTE] 215/35/19 sounds a bit narrow for a 19" rim to me.

Post 701224 by foammanmark on 2014-04-05 20:59:36

Post 701238 by stribo on 2014-04-05 21:26:39

[QUOTE=foammanmark;701224]The tyres on my 19's were 235/35/R19, but the chrome 'lip' scared me to death when parking near kerbs. Bloody beautiful wheels though..............[/QUOTE] You should see the lip on Mike's wheels, they look like the tyres are the euro look stretched ones.

Post 701241 by p fandango on 2014-04-05 21:45:24

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;701223]215/35/19 sounds a bit narrow for a 19" rim to me.[/QUOTE] mine are 215/35/19's, not sure what width the wheels are sit quite nice. Apparently 225's will rub

Post 701244 by stephenevans99 on 2014-04-05 21:47:48

They look huge under there Pedro.

Post 701247 by stribo on 2014-04-05 21:53:50

[QUOTE=p fandango;701241]mine are 215/35/19's, not sure what width the wheels are sit quite nice. Apparently 225's will rub [/QUOTE] Chav. :P

Post 701248 by p fandango on 2014-04-05 21:54:09

[QUOTE=stephenevans99;701244]They look huge under there Pedro.[/QUOTE] been told its got a 70mm drop, the wheels are nicely tucked into the arches

Post 701249 by p fandango on 2014-04-05 21:56:54

[QUOTE=stribo;701247]Chav. :P[/QUOTE] u should hear it, such a deep noise it even confuses the GoPro's mic's & messes the sound up on the video lol

Post 701255 by MIKESC70T5 on 2014-04-05 22:13:45

[QUOTE=p fandango;701249]u should hear it, such a deep noise it even confuses the GoPro's mic's & messes the sound up on the video lol[/QUOTE] Why has it got an M badge on the back and M3 mirrors :(

Post 701256 by merc85 on 2014-04-05 22:15:30

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;701255]Why has it got an M badge on the back and M3 mirrors :([/QUOTE] cus every bm owner does that.... dont they? lol

Post 701260 by p fandango on 2014-04-05 22:29:49

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;701255]Why has it got an M badge on the back and M3 mirrors :([/QUOTE] & M3 rear bumper trim, just the front bumper to get. Atleast its not a 1.8 with M3 bits lol

Post 701276 by MIKESC70T5 on 2014-04-06 09:03:29

[QUOTE=merc85;701256]cus every bm owner does that.... dont they? lol[/QUOTE] No, they buy an M3 and all those bits come for free plus you get the proper engine as we'll lol.

Post 702593 by jimka on 2014-04-11 20:40:52

[ATTACH=CONFIG]24522[/ATTACH]Storm this might help..... My C70. 235/35/19, no rubs, no harsher than 18"s - Probably could do with being lowered, I thought about going 235/40/19" as I think they'd fit fine.