Letter of resignation
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Post 708119 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-02 14:03:01
Oh dear, just handed my notice in to the boss, and got a load of abuse back.
"You've dropped me in the ££££, I should have listened to XXXX, etc..."
I've only handed in my notice 3 times in 16 years so it's not like I make a habit of it. Every time I followed the contract to the letter. The most memorable comments I've had from previous jobs were "You can't leave" and "You've turned out to be a bit of a naughty character" ouch
Has anyone been in this situation? Every time I leave a company I seem to have this reaction.........any advice please for the next one?? :)
Post 708120 by JamesT5 on 2014-05-02 14:28:39
Don't care about them, look after your own interests because that's what matters when you need to put a roof over your head and food on your table. The only difficulty sometimes is getting a reference but if you're like me there are some colleagues that would help you out.
Post 708121 by M-R-P on 2014-05-02 14:47:19
When I left ma last job to go into my current one, I told the guys I directly worked with (I'd been working with them for 6 year and we were a good team) but didn't give notice until I was contractually obliged to as I'd had many disagreements with management. I handed my notice to the boss and walked back to the workshop, counting down from 30 as I got back to the guys. Sure enough, when I got to 0, the manager came running over, pulled me to one side and said "is there anything that'll make you change your mind?"
"26k" I replied.
I started my new job the next week lol.
Post 708123 by JUDGENINJA on 2014-05-02 15:10:11
Never had issues, when I've done it. Plus now I have staff who have handed their notice to me.
If you are a valued member of the team leaving for self improvement, then your boss is just being a bit vocal where he probably should be doing it in private. He should be working with you on an action plan to make sure your job is covered.
Post 708125 by p fandango on 2014-05-02 15:11:43
[QUOTE=M-R-P;708121]When I left ma last job to go into my current one, I told the guys I directly worked with (I'd been working with them for 6 year and we were a good team) but didn't give notice until I was contractually obliged to as I'd had many disagreements with management. I handed my notice to the boss and walked back to the workshop, counting down from 30 as I got back to the guys. Sure enough, when I got to 0, the manager came running over, pulled me to one side and said "is there anything that'll make you change your mind?"
"26k" I replied.
I started my new job the next week lol.[/QUOTE]
Money like that & ur driving round in a starlet lol
Post 708141 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-02 15:56:02
Thanks for the comments chaps. I'm a bit upset about it tbh. Management already blocked me from moving to another position in different location, with the same company, a couple of months ago when there was not much work
Plus before starting in the current role I was told I would have a chance of moving up a level here - after just under 12 months and our little 'discussion' today I was told I wasn't experienced enough. So I've been sat like a lemon waiting for nothing.
Oh well, try your best for years (5) then you are a ££££££ in the last month. Heigh ho
Post 708143 by t5 pete on 2014-05-02 16:19:09
The joys of working for some one at the end of the day all you are a number to them You coming to York then james
Post 708144 by M-R-P on 2014-05-02 16:20:00
[QUOTE=p fandango;708125]Money like that & ur driving round in a starlet lol[/QUOTE]
Just wait till you have to put a kid through private school lol.
Post 708148 by ks_p on 2014-05-02 16:26:07
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when people act like this with good workers like u(
but dont cry! me and cats love u lods!
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Post 708150 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-02 16:30:36
[QUOTE=t5 pete;708143]The joys of working for some one at the end of the day all you are a number to them You coming to York then james[/QUOTE]
You're not wrong there, Pete
I wish I was coming to York mate but will be working my notice. Might make it if I get an 'instant' (dismissal) :) with a bit of luck........
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when people act like this with good workers like u(
but dont cry! me and cats love u lods!
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Thanks chick!
Post 708152 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-02 16:32:49
[QUOTE=JamesT5;708120]Don't care about them, look after your own interests because that's what matters when you need to put a roof over your head and food on your table. The only difficulty sometimes is getting a reference but if you're like me there are some colleagues that would help you out.[/QUOTE]
Good point about the reference there, James, but after today they can put that reference right up their Ronson's
Post 708169 by Doingitsideways on 2014-05-02 17:44:33
Sounds like a typical reaction of a gaffer that is happy for you to spend your life grafting and getting nowhere while working for them, but go somewhere else?
How dare you?!
Had it myself mate, don't worry about it. You're obviously better than them!
Funilly enough, one of the lads handed his notice in at my place the other day.
A small building company, supposedly closely knit, but we all hate the gaffer with a passion. A real tyrant.
Anyway, he handed his letter over, the gaffer read it, simply said "OK" and walked off.
Couldn't even give a ££££ enough to speak to him about it, or even ask why he wanted to leave.
Not holding out much hope for when my notice goes in in a few weeks... The gaffer likes the other lad as he was soft as ££££, I cause him all sorts of misery (My old man was a union man, I can't be railroaded!) ha ha :D
Point being, to some bosses, mine included, employees are a disposable commodity.
Fine to treat them like crap all the time and expect them to put up with it, then when you leave.expect the remaining staff to take up the slack. But my gaffer at least will be on his own soon as we're all jumping ship.
Karma, a beautiful thing! ;)
Oh well, good luck in your new job, James :)
Steve
Post 708176 by JUDGENINJA on 2014-05-02 18:49:50
Did I read it right, you're disappointed about not being promoted from your current position within 12months?
he's probably just shooting from the hip and worried about the stability from the turn around of staff.
Post 708177 by oblark on 2014-05-02 19:06:21
[QUOTE=M-R-P;708121]When I left ma last job to go into my current one, I told the guys I directly worked with (I'd been working with them for 6 year and we were a good team) but didn't give notice until I was contractually obliged to as I'd had many disagreements with management. I handed my notice to the boss and walked back to the workshop, counting down from 30 as I got back to the guys. Sure enough, when I got to 0, the manager came running over, pulled me to one side and said "is there anything that'll make you change your mind?"
"[COLOR="#FF0000"][SIZE=5]26k[/SIZE][/COLOR]" I replied.
I started my new job the next week lol.[/QUOTE]
Only 26k..................... I wouldn`t get out of bed for that.
Post 708182 by stephenevans99 on 2014-05-02 19:14:20
I'm on a lot less than £26k.....BUT with 2 kids, a lovely missus and a chubby whippet - I'm the richest man in the world lol
Post 708184 by stribo on 2014-05-02 19:17:24
[QUOTE=stephenevans99;708182]I'm on a lot less than £26k.....BUT with 2 kids, a lovely missus and a chubby whippet - I'm the richest man in the world lol[/QUOTE]
Someone pass the bucket. :sick:
Post 708185 by stephenevans99 on 2014-05-02 19:19:13
pmsl....
Post 708186 by Pablo25 on 2014-05-02 19:21:27
I know where your coming from pal had a similar situation a couple of weeks ago which has lead my to having to put my S40 up for sale, I didn't realise there where so many time wasters out there. Anyone know which is the best volvo site to advertise her on?
Post 708187 by stephenevans99 on 2014-05-02 19:26:11
VOC :hidesbehi
Post 708190 by Pablo25 on 2014-05-02 19:31:37
I'll give it a go be sad to see it go tho! Cheers
Post 708197 by cherry1809 on 2014-05-02 20:05:34
I used to be happy in my job, then I wasn't, now I am sort of. I'm now in an Environmental position where I have to cover cooling tower management (legionnaires etc.) waste water/effluent treatment including keeping COD readings, MLSS readings below South West water limits to keep costs down. I'd like to think I'm needed, as I've saved them about 60k a month since I've been doing it. But you never know what's around the corner. Might be redundancy, notice or sacked. Depends what I get caught doing, lol.
Post 708202 by theflyingbrick on 2014-05-02 20:13:54
funny enough I was offered a new job today,so I went and spoke to my "gaffa" and he seemed quite shocked!! he asked why would I consider leaving to which I replied...........money............he said leave it with me ill let you know if I can sort it out by the end of next week,its nice to be appreciated having said that I reckon he'll go mad if his offer isn't enough lol
Post 708223 by cherry1809 on 2014-05-02 21:13:33
Unfortunately that's what it boils down to, money. I'm unskilled in my job (relatively) and get about 24k. I left school early and started labouring with my uncle in demolition (great fun!) so my options are limited. Unless I find something nearer, better paid and more fun I'm staying put... Unless I get sacked for abusing other staff. Lol.
Post 708227 by theflyingbrick on 2014-05-02 21:27:17
see im of an old skool worker,although im un qualified I have nearly 15 years experience in the building trade with my main trade being carpentry work so firms tend to keep me on,if you see some of these so called qualified people coming through the ranks you'd understand why people like me are in quite high demand!!!
Post 708258 by artfulflounder on 2014-05-02 22:27:23
Good luck to ya buddy......so does that mean you will get to spend less time on the volvos then?
Post 708274 by caseyt5 on 2014-05-03 01:00:49
Being a business owner and employing people it's so hard to find decent staff that are passionate about the job and will work to demand. Bosses seem to take it personally that your leaving in a smaller firm and think ££££ iv got to find a replacement to finish the project.
Post 708278 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-03 03:37:29
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;708169]Sounds like a typical reaction of a gaffer that is happy for you to spend your life grafting and getting nowhere while working for them, but go somewhere else?
How dare you?!
......
Oh well, good luck in your new job, James :)
Steve[/QUOTE]
Cheers matey, exactly why I'm pissed off about it in your first few lines there. I haven't got a new job yet but have a Plan :)
[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;708176]Did I read it right, you're disappointed about not being promoted from your current position within 12months?
he's probably just shooting from the hip and worried about the stability from the turn around of staff.[/QUOTE]
I've been doing work for the same company for 5 years, but management asked me to change locations after 4. Same position, different location. Before I started in my current location they promised some experience at a higher level. Actually they've been saying that for at least 2 years now but nothing has come of it.
Promotion would be nice but I'm relatively young for the job so I wasn't expecting much. I do uni courses and personal development stuff in my own time, and getting at least some experience at a higher level was supposed to be part of that.
[QUOTE=artfulflounder;708258]Good luck to ya buddy......so does that mean you will get to spend less time on the volvos then?[/QUOTE]
Thanks fella, the Plan is to get a job that gives me more spare time :) :)
[QUOTE=caseyt5;708274]Being a business owner and employing people it's so hard to find decent staff that are passionate about the job and will work to demand. Bosses seem to take it personally that your leaving in a smaller firm and think ££££ iv got to find a replacement to finish the project.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, nice to hear the other side of things. I'm sorry though but for a boss to swear at me and to say I'm not experienced enough to be given training, after saying nothing for a year..........just makes me think I made the right choice :)
Post 708289 by jotter22 on 2014-05-03 08:10:08
I cant understand why you would give up a steady job without having another steady job to go to!...And plans don't put food on the table.
Tony.
Post 708312 by JUDGENINJA on 2014-05-03 09:30:50
Qualifications don't mean anything versus experience in my field. A lot of building trade is done on experience and recommendations...
An -ology only gives them a basis to start from. I interviewed someone with a MSc and PhD which I thought brilliant. However when speaking to them you quickly realise that they knew nothing about the real world and were incapable of actually doing anything.
I also left college with my highest qualification being a BTEC in Information Technology, but now my job is in Radiopharmaceutical medicines. Personally I have always chased the oppurtunity and not the money. I never turn any duty or responsibility down and I have never said "it's not in my job description to do that". Anyone who works to that doesn't understand what a job description is and how it should be constantly updated as a business develops and it's needs change over time, isn't going anywhere in my book.
My ethos has resulted in my now having my own factory and earn considerably more than the national average, all on merit..
I turn 40 in 2015 and I am looking for the next oppurtunity and will always keep learning new stuff... I am not slowing down yet..
Anyway I think the Original post was regarding a strong reaction from a boss. I wouldn't take anything he says to heart.
Post 708316 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-03 09:39:27
[QUOTE=jotter22;708289]I cant understand why you would give up a steady job without having another steady job to go to!...And plans don't put food on the table.
Tony.[/QUOTE]
Fair point but define steady job...the nature of the contract/work is not continuous, only when the customer wants something doing, it's not like I'm losing a pension or sick pay or anything
hopefully I have enough time to get something sorted - quite happy to shovel poop to put food on the table btw and have done so...!
Post 708317 by JUDGENINJA on 2014-05-03 09:39:32
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;708278]I've been doing work for the same company for 5 years, but management asked me to change locations after 4. Same position, different location. Before I started in my current location they promised some experience at a higher level. Actually they've been saying that for at least 2 years now but nothing has come of it.
Promotion would be nice but I'm relatively young for the job so I wasn't expecting much. I do uni courses and personal development stuff in my own time, and getting at least some experience at a higher level was supposed to be part of that.[/QUOTE]
Did you challenge you boss on what you need to do to get a higher position?
Does he know that you are ambitious and wanted to rise through the field?
Were you willing to take on more work stay late etc to demonstrate you commitment to the company?
Have you asked for key targets for promotion? Doing what your boss asks for rather than what you think he is asking for are two completely different things.
You have to view it from his eyes....
And of course there has to be a job to go to... Your boss can't just generate a senior position without a good business need.
Post 708320 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-03 09:53:33
[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;708312]Qualifications don't mean anything versus experience in my field. A lot of building trade is done on experience and recommendations...
An -ology only gives them a basis to start from. I interviewed someone with a MSc and PhD which I thought brilliant. However when speaking to them you quickly realise that they knew nothing about the real world and were incapable of actually doing anything.
I also left college with my highest qualification being a BTEC in Information Technology, but now my job is in Radiopharmaceutical medicines. Personally I have always chased the oppurtunity and not the money. I never turn any duty or responsibility down and I have never said "it's not in my job description to do that". Anyone who works to that doesn't understand what a job description is and how it should be constantly updated as a business develops and it's needs change over time, isn't going anywhere in my book.
My ethos has resulted in my now having my own factory and earn considerably more than the national average, all on merit..
I turn 40 in 2015 and I am looking for the next oppurtunity and will always keep learning new stuff... I am not slowing down yet..
Anyway I think the Original post was regarding a strong reaction from a boss. I wouldn't take anything he says to heart.[/QUOTE]
good for you, Judge. The same in my industry - qualifications mean next to nothing. I do have uni qualifications but as above started work from 16 and did them part time later.
There were other reasons also but the main reason I gave was that I wasn't developing - the job was leading nowhere, and all requests to move on were knocked back. So yesterday I did take it to heart as I don't like to just take the money and vegetate :)
Post 708332 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-03 10:13:44
[QUOTE=JUDGENINJA;708317]Did you challenge you boss on what you need to do to get a higher position?
Does he know that you are ambitious and wanted to rise through the field?
Were you willing to take on more work stay late etc to demonstrate you commitment to the company?
Have you asked for key targets for promotion? Doing what your boss asks for rather than what you think he is asking for are two completely different things.
You have to view it from his eyes....
And of course there has to be a job to go to... Your boss can't just generate a senior position without a good business need.[/QUOTE]
To get this higher position, I needed more experience in what we call 'white trades' - electrical, instrumentation, telecoms, etc. I'll be the first to admit I don't have deep knowledge in this so a couple of years ago I asked for training in this sphere.
I thought I had made it pretty clear to management what I wanted to do - prior to coming here I applied for a higher position, so that prompted a discussion on what experience was required to do this work. We have yearly reviews were it's discussed what are your plans and targets for the coming 12 months. Each review I gave my career plans and private plans for example getting registered with the Engineering Council.
Before I accepted the lower position here, I thought it was agreed that I would get this training although since coming here no training plan/review has been created for me, yet I have worked my bum off to make training plans for the guys and girls who work for me. Their training requests have also come to nothing so far. I'm not slating anyone or any company there by the way, maybe there are things at play that I just don't know about.
I don't know how I compare to the other guys in terms of being a hard worker either, but talking about staying late we sometimes can work up to 70 hours a week...!
Post 708335 by 960kg on 2014-05-03 10:20:34
[QUOTE=theflyingbrick;708227]see im of an old skool worker,although im un qualified I have nearly 15 years experience in the building trade with my main trade being carpentry work so firms tend to keep me on,if you see some of these so called qualified people coming through the ranks you'd understand why people like me are in quite high demand!!![/QUOTE]
Same as myself now retired though....
I have City & Guilds in Carpentry & Joinery etc. ect. since the 1960`s and if you are good at your job you don`t ever need a reference as with practical workers you always had 2weeks trial whether qualified or not.......qualifications only means you have the ability to learn and NOT to use your tools!!
I was never ever asked for my papers when starting a new job and they are still in the same envelope in the draw!
If you are good at your job you can just take your labour anywhere to progress as i did........what it is like in this modern era i have no idea but somehow i do feel sorry for the new kids on the block!
Post 708354 by no1tosh on 2014-05-03 14:32:02
when i left the last bodyshop i worked in last year i handed my notice in and got kicked up and down for about half an hour!! i was told basically leave the job your doing pack you tool box and guns and get off the property within half an hour.
he put me through college even though i could do the job i just wanted the bits of paper, so i worked for him for 2 years on £100 a week then for the last year i got £200 a week.
so when i left he though i used him to get my qual's even though he payed me &^% all and the amount of evenings i used to work on in to the early hours gettin stuff done un paid was unreal.
but im the bad bugger. funny though because a few weeks ago they have been ringging me asking me to do some work for them as there painted is on the sick lol, and want me to go back permantly !
where i am now is £300 a week and a dam good laugh, very chilled out and is a proper bodyshop.
or do i got back to a one car unit on the side of a garage with no tools or paint booth ect.. and get bullyed and underpayed, uuummmmmm i wonder!
end of the day mate sod um they cant hurt you and your working to put money in there pockets. they have nothing else to worry about in there nice well payed lives so take it out on the minions
Post 708355 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-03 14:43:00
[QUOTE=no1tosh;708354]when i left the last bodyshop i worked in last year i handed my notice in and got kicked up and down for about half an hour!! i was told basically leave the job your doing pack you tool box and guns and get off the property within half an hour.
he put me through college even though i could do the job i just wanted the bits of paper, so i worked for him for 2 years on £100 a week then for the last year i got £200 a week.
so when i left he though i used him to get my qual's even though he payed me &^% all and the amount of evenings i used to work on in to the early hours gettin stuff done un paid was unreal.
but im the bad bugger. funny though because a few weeks ago they have been ringging me asking me to do some work for them as there painted is on the sick lol, and want me to go back permantly !
where i am now is £300 a week and a dam good laugh, very chilled out and is a proper bodyshop.
or do i got back to a one car unit on the side of a garage with no tools or paint booth ect.. and get bullyed and underpayed, uuummmmmm i wonder!
end of the day mate sod um they cant hurt you and your working to put money in there pockets. they have nothing else to worry about in there nice well payed lives so take it out on the minions[/QUOTE]
Cheers fella, "we put you through XXX course so we own you" :) and they ignore the fact that your charge out rate is double or triple what they actually pay you......yes been there! I wouldn't be surprised if I hear the same from this place. Offshore survival and all that
Post 708654 by ks_p on 2014-05-04 06:56:37
[QUOTE=artfulflounder;708258]Good luck to ya buddy......so does that mean you will get to spend less time on the volvos then?[/QUOTE]
no way! I will not let him - only opposite! he will start spend with cars more time!
I need my man to have (or countinue a hobby) and I see he is good at it, so -I will support him with all crazy ideas about cars, racings, repairings, selling, buying... and he always will have a good fresh useful meal, funny cats and cuddles/petting/sex when the rest time):smlove2:
Post 708658 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-04 07:17:26
[QUOTE=ks_p;708654]no way! I will not let him - only opposite! he will start spend with cars more time!
I need my man to have (or countinue a hobby) and I see he is good at it, so -I will support him with all crazy ideas about cars, racings, repairings, selling, buying... and he always will have a good fresh useful meal, funny cats and cuddles/petting/sex when the rest time):smlove2:[/QUOTE]
hehe you just want me for my bowling skills - still winning you free meals after some years! :)
Post 708667 by ks_p on 2014-05-04 07:34:22
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;708658]hehe you just want me for my bowling skills - still winning you free meals after some years! :)[/QUOTE]
i have no fingers enough on my hands and feet... cats have no paws enough to count yr skills! :wiggle::remybussi:hail::uglyhamme:pants::funkybana
Post 708668 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-04 07:39:58
[QUOTE=ks_p;708667]i have no fingers enough on my hands and feet... cats have no paws enough to count yr skills! :wiggle::remybussi:hail::uglyhamme:pants::funkybana[/QUOTE]
need to work on my dancing though :wiggle:
...and letters of resignation! (did u see what I did there, to get back on topic, cos u will make me blush :o)
Post 708678 by ks_p on 2014-05-04 08:24:28
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;708668]need to work on my dancing though :wiggle:
...and letters of resignation! (did u see what I did there, to get back on topic, cos u will make me blush :o)[/QUOTE]
ok)
When I was leaving companies I worked - all my bosses and coligues were sooooo freaking HAPPY with it))) I am sure they were celebratinglike buddist monks from Ace Ventura! LOL
[video=youtube;llDTurQxPgQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llDTurQxPgQ[/video]
cos nobody liked to be teached by a young girl how to live and what life values to have))
and of cos I was crap worker)))
so, it means u r a good and bosses dosent want to loose u.. they think u r betray them
Post 708696 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-04 09:43:45
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...so, it means u r a good and bosses dosent want to loose u.. they think u r betray them[/QUOTE]
I love the Ace Ventura films :)
OK, like in Hot Fuzz then....
[video=youtube;dT5bnywJuhc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT5bnywJuhc[/video]
Post 709003 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-05 06:08:36
Job interview tonight, via Skype! Hope it's not Skype video......better put some clothes on :) "...and here is our potential candidate, joining us via video link....in his y-fronts"
Better brush up on my interview technique....
Post 712396 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-17 13:23:28
Didn't get the job! Heigh ho
Anyway, leaving party still going ahead....can't send the nice ladies back to Russia!
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Post 712413 by Doingitsideways on 2014-05-17 15:55:49
Gutted for you mate.
Sure something will turn up soon enough :)
Mmm... Russian ladies... ;)
Post 712469 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-17 18:53:22
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;712413]Gutted for you mate.
Sure something will turn up soon enough :)
Mmm... Russian ladies... ;)[/QUOTE]
No worries, I have a cunning plan!
And had a bit of a talk with my boss - so think at least I'm leaving on good terms. They offered to let me extend my notice period, to which I said thanks but no thanks
Post 712470 by t5 pete on 2014-05-17 18:55:57
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;712396]Didn't get the job! Heigh ho
Anyway, leaving party still going ahead....can't send the nice ladies back to Russia!
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Bring them to York with you ill bring the kids paddling pool we could also have the mud wrestling
Post 712494 by Doingitsideways on 2014-05-17 19:59:10
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;712469]No worries, I have a cunning plan![/QUOTE]
Rather that than you have a cunning stunt! ;)
... You doing York this year?
Might have to see if I can beat your time in the 460!
Post 712594 by jamesy12345 on 2014-05-18 04:04:41
[QUOTE=t5 pete;712470]Bring them to York with you ill bring the kids paddling pool we could also have the mud wrestling[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;712494]Rather that than you have a cunning stunt! ;)
... You doing York this year?
Might have to see if I can beat your time in the 460![/QUOTE]
hehe, mmm.....cunning stunts & mud wrestling
I would have loved to go to York again but will be still out of the country then :(
Give it a go matey, got this to beat:
[video=youtube;_cwcm81zc2Q]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cwcm81zc2Q&feature=youtu.be[/video]