Waffle from S70T5Chris Project Thread "Let the fun (spending!) begin!!

Post 712820 by stribo on 2014-05-19 06:50:58

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;712819]No mate, I'm getting pissed of tbh. The guy at the bodyshop has been on holiday for 3 weeks now. He should be back today, i'm giving him 2 weeks to get it finished or I'm taking the car as it is, an I'll take it somewhere else. I'm not really getting a huge amount done, but I made the mistake of saying that I wasn't in a rush and 2 months later, it's still sat there. It's taking the piss now. The tax and MOT have both run out since it's been there, so it's currently sorn :-( On a positive note, once it's back I have a definite plan of what I'm doing with it, and I have the money just to crack on and get the whole thing done. The S60 is 100% going. That'll have to be broken, it's the only way I'll get any sensible money from it. A few of those parts will end up on the 850.[/QUOTE] First dibs on the splitter. ;)

Post 712822 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 07:14:46

[QUOTE=stribo;712820]First dibs on the splitter. ;)[/QUOTE] Sure thing! I'll let you know as soon as it's happening.

Post 712824 by Harvey on 2014-05-19 08:14:18

Pod for boost gauge & gauge if going together, please.

Post 712825 by T5RatherAmusin on 2014-05-19 08:21:58

[QUOTE=Harvey;712824]Pod for boost gauge & gauge if going together, please.[/QUOTE] I've already got dibs on boost pod ;)

Post 712862 by T5frankie on 2014-05-19 11:46:35

How much for whole car???

Post 712874 by oblark on 2014-05-19 12:46:21

[QUOTE=T5frankie;712862]How much for whole car???[/QUOTE] I reckon about 5-6k

Post 712876 by T5RatherAmusin on 2014-05-19 12:52:50

[QUOTE=T5frankie;712862]How much for whole car???[/QUOTE] thort you didnt like ph2s :uglyhamme

Post 712959 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 18:52:06

[QUOTE=oblark;712874]I reckon about 5-6k[/QUOTE] Already had an offer higher than that and turned it down. The car is worth so much in parts. It's highly unlikely it will be sold as a whole.

Post 712985 by stribo on 2014-05-19 20:05:31

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;712959]Already had an offer higher than that and turned it down. The car is worth so much in parts. It's highly unlikely it will be sold as a whole.[/QUOTE] It'll be a real shame if you do break it, as it's a beautiful looking car, but being the vulture I am, could I have first dibs on the bootlid as well?

Post 712987 by oblark on 2014-05-19 20:24:48

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;712959]Already had an offer higher than that and turned it down. The car is worth so much in parts. It's highly unlikely it will be sold as a whole.[/QUOTE] Best of british getting more than 6k for selling the car as spares.

Post 712990 by T5frankie on 2014-05-19 20:38:50

[QUOTE=T5RatherAmusin;712876]thort you didnt like ph2s :uglyhamme[/QUOTE] except R's

Post 712997 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 20:56:31

[QUOTE=oblark;712987]Best of british getting more than 6k for selling the car as spares.[/QUOTE] huh?!!

Post 713000 by t5 pete on 2014-05-19 21:04:44

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;712997]huh?!![/QUOTE] Double huh I was wondering the same

Post 713001 by stribo on 2014-05-19 21:06:29

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;712997]huh?!![/QUOTE] [QUOTE=t5 pete;713000]Double huh I was wondering the same[/QUOTE] Come on guys, you're not really that thick. ;)

Post 713002 by t5 pete on 2014-05-19 21:07:25

[QUOTE=stribo;713001]Come on guys, you're not really that thick. ;)[/QUOTE] You carnt blame it on being nothern this time

Post 713003 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 21:12:13

[QUOTE=stribo;713001]Come on guys, you're not really that thick. ;)[/QUOTE] That's what Dalhousie gets back on breaking a standard S60R? That's all I can think it means!!

Post 713008 by t5 pete on 2014-05-19 21:20:31

Oooo its like a guessing game being able to get more for the car breaking it tight british sods wont pay for it complete

Post 713009 by graemewelch on 2014-05-19 21:22:22

Yip he told me 6k.

Post 713010 by stribo on 2014-05-19 21:23:40

Reading between the lines, Rob doesn't think you'll get get over £6K for yours in parts, but I can see why HWMNBN, or Dalhousie has struggled, he's asking for £70 for a set of used Atacama mats, then there's £9 postage on top. I know there are parts he can get good prices for, but like the Atacama interior he couldn't sell, some things are too much for what they are.

Post 713012 by merc85 on 2014-05-19 21:24:16

[QUOTE=t5 pete;713008]Oooo its like a guessing game being able to get more for the car breaking it tight british sods wont pay for it complete[/QUOTE] yeah but its about right tbh, Blacky came close,

Post 713013 by t5 pete on 2014-05-19 21:27:04

[QUOTE=merc85;713012]yeah but its about right tbh, Blacky came close,[/QUOTE] Mine got broke then put back to bog standard

Post 713016 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 21:30:45

[QUOTE=stribo;713010]Reading between the lines, Rob doesn't think you'll get get over £6K for yours in parts, but I can see why HWMNBN, or Dalhousie has struggled, he's asking for £70 for a set of used Atacama mats, then there's £9 postage on top. I know there are parts he can get good prices for, but like the Atacama interior he couldn't sell, some things are too much for what they are.[/QUOTE] Does anyone actually know what parts are fitted to my car? How could anyone apart from me know what it is worth in bits? £6k doesn't even come close.

Post 713018 by merc85 on 2014-05-19 21:31:27

[QUOTE=t5 pete;713013]Mine got broke then put back to bog standard[/QUOTE] i sold off all the standard bits to upgrade so it would have cost me to put her back to standard. either way some peeps dont wanna pay the price for a Well sorted, properly maintained car. Someone could buy say a s60r then spend the extra ££s getting to to the same standard as Chris's car, i reckon it would cost them more than if they just paid what for instance Chris would like for his one imho

Post 713019 by graemewelch on 2014-05-19 21:32:02

I cant see me getting more than 4k for the one im busting. Hope im wrong

Post 713021 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 21:33:19

[QUOTE=merc85;713018]i sold off all the standard bits to upgrade so it would have cost me to put her back to standard. either way some peeps dont wanna pay the price for a Well sorted, properly maintained car. Someone could buy say a s60r then spend the extra ££s getting to to the same standard as Chris's car, i reckon it would cost them more than if they just paid what for instance Chris would like for his one imho[/QUOTE] You'd cry if you knew how much I've spent on the S60 in the 2 years I've owned it.

Post 713025 by merc85 on 2014-05-19 21:36:32

i can imagine bud, look at AndysR for instance.

Post 713030 by oblark on 2014-05-19 21:38:42

If you spend 10-12k on a car (inc buying the car) doesn`t mean you will get 10-12k back when it`s broken.

Post 713032 by stribo on 2014-05-19 21:40:31

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;713021]You'd cry if you knew how much I've spent on the S60 in the 2 years I've owned it.[/QUOTE] Mate if I had the money to buy yours for what it's worth (probably getting close to £10K) I would, but I don't so I'll buy what I can afford of yours, and try and make our's half as good.

Post 713033 by AndysR on 2014-05-19 21:41:47

Well it certainly sounds like you've been patient with the bodyshop guy, and your current plan of allowing a further 2 weeks sounds more than fair imho. [QUOTE=S70T5Chris;713021]You'd cry if you knew how much I've spent on the S60 in the 2 years I've owned it.[/QUOTE] I know that feeling but it's what makes you feel happy at the time, I wouldn't change the route I've taken with the car if I was given the choice again and I'm certainly proud to confess I'm a petrolhead junky and not a coke head or alcoholic... I have to say from the owner of potentially one of the very few great and well sorted examples of an S60R to be breaking it in favour of keeping the 850 is a hell of a statement to phase 2 owners and imho mirrors what I've heard in other corners...

Post 713036 by merc85 on 2014-05-19 21:43:12

[QUOTE=oblark;713030]If you spend 10-12k on a car (inc buying the car) doesn`t mean you will get 10-12k back when it`s broken.[/QUOTE] no that quite correct, mate but alot on here dont apreciate how much effort and expense some peeps put into there car to get it to its current standard, Blacky for instance 5k, ive already spent £700 on my R ontop of buying it and thats being in the trade, 10-12k i doubt would scratch the surface with Chris's car, if his anything like andy anyway.

Post 713040 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 21:46:50

[QUOTE=oblark;713030]If you spend 10-12k on a car (inc buying the car) doesn`t mean you will get 10-12k back when it`s broken.[/QUOTE] Do you think I'm a moron or something? I've priced up the parts at sensible prices. I got back over £8k on my S70 when I broke it. I know what parts are worth, what I can sell them for and who I can target. I don't buy cheap ££££. Nothing I put on any of my cars is cheap, or a compromise. The front mount intercooler on the S60 cost £1000. The front brake pads cost £300. The rear brake pads cost £250. The tyres cost £1000. Just the tank for my Water Injection cost £200. Would you like me to go on? I am uninterested in your opinion, when you have no clue what you are talking about.

Post 713043 by oblark on 2014-05-19 21:50:14

[QUOTE=merc85;713036]no that quite correct, mate but alot on here dont apreciate how much effort and expense some peeps put into there car to get it to its current standard, Blacky for instance 5k, ive already spent £700 on my R ontop of buying it and thats being in the trade, 10-12k i doubt would scratch the surface with Chris's car, if his anything like andy anyway.[/QUOTE] The money I`ve ploughed into my over the last few years is unbelieveable :) and I`m still ploughjng money in it but I`ll never see all that money back. I do it as a hobby and not a way of making money in the future. If Chris has ploughed over 12k in to the S60R then good luck to him if he makes that money back.

Post 713045 by stribo on 2014-05-19 21:53:39

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;713040]Do you think I'm a moron or something? I've priced up the parts at sensible prices. I got back over £8k on my S70 when I broke it. I know what parts are worth, what I can sell them for and who I can target. I don't buy cheap ££££. Nothing I put on any of my cars is cheap, or a compromise. The front mount intercooler on the S60 cost £1000. The front brake pads cost £300. The rear brake pads cost £250. The tyres cost £1000. Just the tank for my Water Injection cost £200. Would you like me to go on? I am uninterested in your opinion, when you have no clue what you are talking about.[/QUOTE] I'm looking forward to the next softies meet. :D Is the FMIC a drop in one, or does it need modification of what's already there? (££££ at this rate it would be cheaper to buy the car).

Post 713046 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 21:53:47

[QUOTE=AndysR;713033]Well it certainly sounds like you've been patient with the bodyshop guy, and your current plan of allowing a further 2 weeks sounds more than fair imho. I know that feeling but it's what makes you feel happy at the time, I wouldn't change the route I've taken with the car if I was given the choice again and I'm certainly proud to confess I'm a petrolhead junky and not a coke head or alcoholic... I have to say from the owner of potentially one of the very few great and well sorted examples of an S60R to be breaking it in favour of keeping the 850 is a hell of a statement to phase 2 owners and imho mirrors what I've heard in other corners...[/QUOTE] Absolutely, at the end of the day it's my hobby. By the time I've sold it off - have I wasted the £10k I won't get back? Or have I had my enjoyment out of it for 2+ years and now moved on to bigger and better things? I say the latter, but opinions vary! The S60 ticks pretty much all the boxes. But for an enjoyable drive, even the most sorted P2 isn't a patch on a sorted P1 for grin factor!

Post 713047 by merc85 on 2014-05-19 21:54:58

[QUOTE=oblark;713043]The money I`ve ploughed into my over the last few years is unbelieveable :) and I`m still ploughjng money in it but I`ll never see all that money back. I do it as a hobby and not a way of making money in the future. If Chris has ploughed over 12k in to the S60R then good luck to him if he makes that money back.[/QUOTE] Nor do i, or the other peeps ive mentioned but its a fact there alot of people on here would rather not buy a Sorted car in the 1st place, theyd rather buy the parts separtly and over a long period of time to try achieve a similar end result. this may suit them if they enjoy doing the work themselve or cant afford to buy the right car in the 1st place. Because of this quality moded parts on these cars achive a good resale value and often out weigh what peeps are prepared to pay for the complete car

Post 713048 by AndysR on 2014-05-19 21:57:05

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;713046]Absolutely, at the end of the day it's my hobby. By the time I've sold it off - have I wasted the £10k I won't get back? Or have I had my enjoyment out of it for 2+ years and now moved on to bigger and better things? I say the latter, but opinions vary! The S60 ticks pretty much all the boxes. But for an enjoyable drive, even the most sorted P2 isn't a patch on a sorted P1 for grin factor![/QUOTE] And that's exactly where I sit with the expenditure on mine, it's the grin and enjoyment factor that the money buys not profit, although it would be nice to get some back when it sells, I personally would rather see someone enjoying the car than break it but then I never have been much of a business/profit orientated person and will probably always have that attitude towards my cars.. Lol

Post 713049 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 21:58:21

[QUOTE=stribo;713032]Mate if I had the money to buy yours for what it's worth (probably getting close to £10K) I would, but I don't so I'll buy what I can afford of yours, and try and make our's half as good.[/QUOTE] I would expect to get around £10k in parts by breaking it. However a reasonable amount of bits will go into the 850 which will save me money. I'd take £8k for the car as a whole to save the hassle of breaking it. I haven't bothered to advertise the fact it's for sale/getting broken as I knew what the reaction would be. I just mentioned it to a couple of people who knew about the car.

Post 713053 by stribo on 2014-05-19 22:05:04

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;713046]Absolutely, at the end of the day it's my hobby. By the time I've sold it off - have I wasted the £10k I won't get back? Or have I had my enjoyment out of it for 2+ years and now moved on to bigger and better things? I say the latter, but opinions vary! The S60 ticks pretty much all the boxes. [COLOR="#FF0000"] But for an enjoyable drive, even the most sorted P2 isn't a patch on a sorted P1 for grin factor![/COLOR][/QUOTE] But for a trip across continents, the P2 is a far superior car, especially the R as the 4C gives the best of all worlds. I know what you're saying though Chris, and my C70 is by no means a sorted one, but the driving position is far better, though being a C70 you do sit lower which I love, and you do feel more at one with the car. Around a track, the R is easy to drive, just floor it out of a corner, and it'll sort itself out, the C70, you have to balance the throttle until it's going in a straight line, then you can floor it. Both have their merits, and their faults.

Post 713055 by stribo on 2014-05-19 22:08:07

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;713049]I would expect to get around £10k in parts by breaking it. However a reasonable amount of bits will go into the 850 which will save me money.[COLOR="#FF0000"] I'd take £8k[/COLOR] for the car as a whole to save the hassle of breaking it. I haven't bothered to advertise the fact it's for sale/getting broken as I knew what the reaction would be. I just mentioned it to a couple of people who knew about the car.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately, I can't realistically afford that either, coupled with the inevitable divorce for stealing all Charlie's money. lol

Post 713062 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 22:17:35

[QUOTE=stribo;713053]But for a trip across continents, the P2 is a far superior car, especially the R as the 4C gives the best of all worlds. I know what you're saying though Chris, and my C70 is by no means a sorted one, but the driving position is far better, though being a C70 you do sit lower which I love, and you do feel more at one with the car. Around a track, the R is easy to drive, just floor it out of a corner, and it'll sort itself out, the C70, you have to balance the throttle until it's going in a straight line, then you can floor it. Both have their merits, and their faults.[/QUOTE] In the right hands the S60R, especially one with uprated brakes, tyres, ARB's etc etc is a hell of a tool on a track. A 350bhp S60R in the right hands is equally as fast, if not faster than a 400+bhp P1 on a track. It is effortless, unfortunately a tad boring. The S60 has well and truely hung up it's track boots, since the arrival of the Accord. I've been on many track days with Ashok in his S60R, and in Tims hands it is more often than not faster than almost anything else out there, 911's, elises, m3's, you name it.

Post 713066 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 22:20:53

[QUOTE=stribo;713055]Unfortunately, I can't realistically afford that either, coupled with the inevitable divorce for stealing all Charlie's money. lol[/QUOTE] Absolutely mate, I know the market for someone to be spending £8k for an 11 year old Volvo S60R is not only small, its more or less non existent! Why I haven't bothered putting it up for sale. If it takes me 6 months to sell off all the bits, it's no big deal. I sold the bulk of the S70 to people I know on T5D5 before it was even broken. Once word gets around it doesn't take long.

Post 713073 by stribo on 2014-05-19 22:37:12

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;713066]Absolutely mate, I know the market for someone to be spending £8k for an 11 year old Volvo S60R is not only small, its more or less non existent! Why I haven't bothered putting it up for sale. If it takes me 6 months to sell off all the bits, it's no big deal. I sold the bulk of the S70 to people I know on T5D5 before it was even broken. Once word gets around it doesn't take long.[/QUOTE] So does that mean you'll be posting most the stuff up for sale on T5D5?

Post 713076 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 22:42:40

[QUOTE=stribo;713073]So does that mean you'll be posting most the stuff up for sale on T5D5?[/QUOTE] No, not necessarily mate. I ended up selling most of the S70 stuff by word of mouth, once people caught wind that I was breaking. I just know more people over there, and more people there know what has been done to my cars. Plus, Tims a handy person to know as well, he's working on these cars every day, and knows who wants/needs what. I'll sort out a list of the goodies, and send it over to you.

Post 713082 by siamblue on 2014-05-19 22:55:35

Will the turbo be for sale Chirs? if so is it the k24? wonder if it would fit onto the bike..

Post 713084 by stribo on 2014-05-19 23:05:16

Chris has an Owens 19t.

Post 713087 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-19 23:08:50

[QUOTE=siamblue;713082]Will the turbo be for sale Chirs? if so is it the k24? wonder if it would fit onto the bike..[/QUOTE] Its an Owens hybrid 19t. If the car gets broken, the turbo will be going on the 850 :D

Post 713115 by oblark on 2014-05-20 07:44:56

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;713040]Do you think I'm a moron or something? I've priced up the parts at sensible prices. I got back over £8k on my S70 when I broke it. I know what parts are worth, what I can sell them for and who I can target. I don't buy cheap ££££. Nothing I put on any of my cars is cheap, or a compromise. The front mount intercooler on the S60 cost £1000. The front brake pads cost £300. The rear brake pads cost £250. The tyres cost £1000. Just the tank for my Water Injection cost £200. Would you like me to go on? I am uninterested in your opinion, when you have no clue what you are talking about.[/QUOTE] I was under the impression that the idea behind a public forum was it`s members could post they opinions but it appears that is not the case with this forum. When someones opinions are different there are accused of thinking they are a moron or no nothing. I forgot this was a tight nit forum and if you speeak your mind you are in the wrong.

Post 713124 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-20 10:10:57

But you don't know rob. It's not a point of having an opinion of what MY car is worth in parts, you don't know as you don't know what parts it has on it.

Post 714189 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-24 19:41:00

Well, after that bitch fest, I'm keeping it! :D Gonna sort out all the bits and bobs that have always annoyed me, and get the map sorted.

Post 714190 by merc85 on 2014-05-24 19:43:04

Well done mate it is a awesome motor :)

Post 714191 by Harvey on 2014-05-24 19:44:49

Good news then !. First question the boost gauge any info where I could get one & what make is it please.

Post 714192 by graemewelch on 2014-05-24 19:45:53

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;714189]Well, after that bitch fest, I'm keeping it! :D Gonna sort out all the bits and bobs that have always annoyed me, and get the map sorted.[/QUOTE] Whats your plans for the map chris. I can decieded wear to get mine mapped. Itll need to be custom though

Post 714194 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-24 19:48:29

[QUOTE=merc85;714190]Well done mate it is a awesome motor :)[/QUOTE] I have spent weeks driving myself nuts with what I would replace it with. I have considered everything from and XFR or Sv8 Jag to an M5 or M6, an E46 M3 or an E92 M3, S8's, Range Rovers, you name it. It's all become a blur. Everytime I look at it, I think how much of a nice car it is, and think I must be mad to break it, especially when I work out how much money and effort has been sent on it. I'll start a thread soon with a 'to do' list!

Post 714195 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-24 19:51:34

[QUOTE=graemewelch;714192]Whats your plans for the map chris. I can decieded wear to get mine mapped. Itll need to be custom though[/QUOTE] Dream3r (John), on T5D5. Live mapped on the road with input from Tim. I won't get involved, I don't have a clue! I'm thinking about keeping the boost to a max of 1.4 bar for longevity/reliability. It'll just be a fast road car, I can't see it going on a track again.

Post 714197 by graemewelch on 2014-05-24 19:55:39

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;714194]I have spent weeks driving myself nuts with what I would replace it with. I have considered everything from and XFR or Sv8 Jag to an M5 or M6, an E46 M3 or an E92 M3, S8's, Range Rovers, you name it. It's all become a blur. Everytime I look at it, I think how much of a nice car it is, and think I must be mad to break it, especially when I work out how much money and effort has been sent on it. I'll start a thread soon with a 'to do' list![/QUOTE] sounds like you have the same conversation with your self that i do. [QUOTE=S70T5Chris;714195]Dream3r (John), on T5D5. Live mapped on the road with input from Tim. I won't get involved, I don't have a clue! I'm thinking about keeping the boost to a max of 1.4 bar for longevity/reliability. It'll just be a fast road car, I can't see it going on a track again.[/QUOTE] That sounds like a good plan.

Post 714202 by MIKESC70T5 on 2014-05-24 20:06:47

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;714194]I have spent weeks driving myself nuts with what I would replace it with. I have considered everything from and XFR or Sv8 Jag to an M5 or M6, an E46 M3 or an E92 M3, S8's, Range Rovers, you name it. It's all become a blur. Everytime I look at it, I think how much of a nice car it is, and think I must be mad to break it, especially when I work out how much money and effort has been sent on it. I'll start a thread soon with a 'to do' list![/QUOTE] Sell it or break it mate. When you start thinking of a replacement, the itch won't go away. You'll fool yourself into spending more money on the R, and soon down the line the itch will come back again and you would of wasted more money. Your list of cars covers a broad spectrum in terms of outlay. What tick boxes does a replacement car have to fill?

Post 714204 by graemewelch on 2014-05-24 20:11:32

Post 714208 by JUDGENINJA on 2014-05-24 20:28:42

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;714189]Well, after that bitch fest, I'm keeping it! :D Gonna sort out all the bits and bobs that have always annoyed me, and get the map sorted.[/QUOTE] Woohoo..!!!! (Nuff said)....

Post 714209 by stribo on 2014-05-24 20:31:31

Great news mate, as much as I'd like parts off your's, I prefer to see it kept in one piece.

Post 714213 by S70T5Chris on 2014-05-24 20:38:01

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;714202]Sell it or break it mate. When you start thinking of a replacement, the itch won't go away. You'll fool yourself into spending more money on the R, and soon down the line the itch will come back again and you would of wasted more money. Your list of cars covers a broad spectrum in terms of outlay. What tick boxes does a replacement car have to fill?[/QUOTE] Perhaps you're right, I have given that exact same advice to people before! Which makes me a bit of a hypocrite! But I have made my decision (believe me, it's been hard! Which is ridiculous I know), and I am going to finish the car so it's 100% perfect. Maybe I'll keep it another year? Maybe 2, I don't know. Another couple of grand thrown at it will be lost money for sure, but it's my hobby and I get enjoyment out of it. The budget I was looking at spending was anywhere between 15 to 20k. All of those cars can be had for under £20k. The E46 was more of a replacement for the Accord, it may still happen, but I have my doubts as to whether it will be as a reliable track car.