850 T5 project/tidy up
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Post 718292 by jdavis on 2014-06-11 18:31:42
As some know I've bought a 1996 855 T5 auto as a replacement for my broken p2
Well it seems Frankie was right and the rawness of the acceleration and the way they driver has converted me.
So looking to give this one a bit of a tidy up. Here it stands at the minute after a quick clean courtesy of the local hand wash place
To do list in no particular order:
Get bonnet painted/replacement fitted
Paint grille leaving chrome sash
Fit my 18s from p2
New disks and pads all round
Thorough service
And more...
Post 718293 by T5frankie on 2014-06-11 18:33:08
is it mapped? cos they go very well when they are
Post 718299 by M-R-P on 2014-06-11 18:39:54
If that is Rory's old car, it was mapped but he might have had the map off before he sold it.
Post 718301 by stribo on 2014-06-11 18:41:32
[QUOTE=jdavis;718292]As some know I've bought a 1996 855 T5 auto as a replacement for my broken p2
Well it seems Frankie was right and the rawness of the acceleration and the way they driver has converted me.
So looking to give this one a bit of a tidy up. Here it stands at the minute after a quick clean courtesy of the local hand wash place
To do list in no particular order:
Get bonnet painted/replacement fitted
Paint grille leaving chrome sash
Fit my 18s from p2
New disks and pads all round
Thorough service
And more...[/QUOTE]
Now you've started on the long slippery slope mate, there's no turning back. ;)
Post 718316 by jdavis on 2014-06-11 19:06:13
I believe it is mapped. Goes like stink. Boost gauge goes to about 1mm from end of white.
Post 718335 by T5frankie on 2014-06-11 19:46:30
its either mapped or the actuator is set to TAF
Post 718337 by Jamest5r on 2014-06-11 19:59:49
Got to be mapped, WTF happened to the bonnet??
Post 718339 by jdavis on 2014-06-11 20:17:07
Apparently the lacquered had lifted on the old one and was rusty. This was bought thinking it was the same green but it isn't. Don't know why its rubbed back. I've checked all round underneath etc no signs of any accident damage.
Other than where boost gauge goes how would I know of its been mapped? It pulls you into seat like a friends old 338bhp 2wd saff did.
Post 718340 by Jamest5r on 2014-06-11 20:28:32
[QUOTE=jdavis;718339]Apparently the lacquered had lifted on the old one and was rusty. This was bought thinking it was the same green but it isn't. Don't know why its rubbed back. I've checked all round underneath etc no signs of any accident damage.
Other than where boost gauge goes how would I know of its been mapped? It pulls you into seat like a friends old 338bhp 2wd saff did.[/QUOTE]
Pull the ecu out and have a look :) might have a sticker or writing on, if not look at the securing tabs around the ecu there will be scratch marks where they have been lifted to open it.
Post 718358 by T5frankie on 2014-06-11 21:25:05
[QUOTE=jdavis;718339]Apparently the lacquered had lifted on the old one and was rusty. This was bought thinking it was the same green but it isn't. Don't know why its rubbed back. I've checked all round underneath etc no signs of any accident damage.
Other than where boost gauge goes how would I know of its been mapped? It pulls you into seat like a friends old 338bhp 2wd saff did.[/QUOTE]
a 338bhp 2wd saph would destroy any mapped 15g'd auto 850 lol by miles, my cossie i just sold was around 300-320bhp and was an aniimal
Post 718370 by jdavis on 2014-06-11 21:52:59
[QUOTE=M-R-P;718299]If that is Rory's old car, it was mapped but he might have had the map off before he sold it.[/QUOTE]
Car was bought from wakefield area if that helps?
[QUOTE=stribo;718301]Now you've started on the long slippery slope mate, there's no turning back. ;)[/QUOTE]
tell me about it...
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;718340]Pull the ecu out and have a look :) might have a sticker or writing on, if not look at the securing tabs around the ecu there will be scratch marks where they have been lifted to open it.[/QUOTE]
Now being used to P2's and how finicky they can be with 'just having things unplugged' is it going to bugger anything up pulling the ecu out?
[QUOTE=T5frankie;718358]a 338bhp 2wd saph would destroy any mapped 15g'd auto 850 lol by miles, my cossie i just sold was around 300-320bhp and was an aniimal[/QUOTE]
Absolutely, and i would never suggest that it would be any different, but it seriously pins you back in your seat. i never had that with either my P1 T5 Auto or P2 V70 T5 Chocotronic.
expect to see a few wanted posts soon if the P2 sells.
Post 718374 by stribo on 2014-06-11 21:58:29
[QUOTE=jdavis;718370]Car was bought from wakefield area if that helps?
tell me about it...
[COLOR="#FF0000"]Now being used to P2's and how finicky they can be with 'just having things unplugged' is it going to bugger anything up pulling the ecu out?[/COLOR]
Absolutely, and i would never suggest that it would be any different, but it seriously pins you back in your seat. i never had that with either my P1 T5 Auto or P2 V70 T5 Chocotronic.
expect to see a few wanted posts soon if the P2 sells.[/QUOTE]
No, just make sure the ignition's turned off.
Post 718376 by M-R-P on 2014-06-11 22:01:04
[QUOTE=stribo;718374]No, just make sure the ignition's turned off.[/QUOTE]
And the battery is off if you touch anything to do with the srs system.
Post 718380 by stribo on 2014-06-11 22:04:00
[QUOTE=M-R-P;718376]And the battery is off if you touch anything to do with the srs system.[/QUOTE]
Not much of a srs system on a 850. lol
Post 719663 by jdavis on 2014-06-18 17:18:04
the 18's are on! 225 40 18 tyres, no issues other than reduced lock.
Post 719666 by T5frankie on 2014-06-18 17:24:49
[QUOTE=jdavis;719663]the 18's are on! 225 40 18 tyres, no issues other than reduced lock.
[/QUOTE]
i have a cheap rear spoiler mate if you want it?
Post 720859 by jdavis on 2014-06-25 11:25:40
whats involved in upgrading to the 302mm front brakes please. these 280's are down right dangerous! i had bigger brakes on my mk3 fiesta (Escos).
Post 720863 by T5frankie on 2014-06-25 11:33:49
[QUOTE=jdavis;720859]whats involved in upgrading to the 302mm front brakes please. these 280's are down right dangerous! i had bigger brakes on my mk3 fiesta (Escos).[/QUOTE]
Just change the carriers and discs from a v70r
Post 720870 by jdavis on 2014-06-25 12:12:47
When you break yours give me a shout
Post 720873 by kyboy on 2014-06-25 12:46:35
I've still got my first 850 t5 auto with a Tim Williams ecu and the acceleration is savage.....love it!
Post 720875 by WOODY T5 on 2014-06-25 12:52:47
Looks nice that mate with the oz wheels on now keep up the good work
Post 720876 by jdavis on 2014-06-25 12:53:36
[QUOTE=kyboy;720873]I've still got my first 850 t5 auto with a Tim Williams ecu and the acceleration is savage.....love it![/QUOTE]
the auto box does feel really direct!
Post 721864 by jdavis on 2014-07-01 05:11:03
right guys, roof rail/trims. how do i sort them? mine are peeling badly
thanks
Post 721893 by Saaamon on 2014-07-01 12:39:26
[QUOTE=jdavis;721864]right guys, roof rail/trims. how do i sort them? mine are peeling badly
thanks[/QUOTE]
I wrapped mine, was time consuming but gave a reasonable finish as far as temp measures go. Only option is to get new ones, Volvo sell them for 400£ ish I think, second hand there about 20-30£ but good luck finding decent ones, took me a while. Mite be able to use v70 ones but I haven't tried it.
Post 721936 by jdavis on 2014-07-01 19:05:43
[QUOTE=Saaamon;721893]I wrapped mine, was time consuming but gave a reasonable finish as far as temp measures go. Only option is to get new ones, Volvo sell them for 400£ ish I think, second hand there about 20-30£ but good luck finding decent ones, took me a while. Mite be able to use v70 ones but I haven't tried it.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for that. Thought I'd heard of p1 v70 ones being used. Had thought about having them wrapped so will speak to a guy that does it local to me if its a good enough finish.
Post 721957 by Saaamon on 2014-07-01 21:08:34
I wrapped mine the whole way round but I'm sure someone who does what there doing could just do the top, maybe Carbon look of that's your thing.
Post 721966 by RollingThunder on 2014-07-01 21:33:35
Why not take them off, sand them down and paint or powdercoat them? They'd look like new then... but be £380 cheaper :)
Post 721996 by jdavis on 2014-07-02 04:49:15
Good idea, I've got some satin black paint somewhere, will try that first, got to be worth a shot.
Post 726973 by Jamest5r on 2014-07-30 19:16:11
Looking really good now mate just need a.spoiler to top it off don't look right without one
Post 726980 by jdavis on 2014-07-30 19:27:28
Thanks buddy. Got one to go on from Frankie but needs painting. Hoping to get it sorted this next month.
Post 734870 by jdavis on 2014-09-12 17:00:00
Well, it seems that it isn't remapped after all.
After replacing some of the vacuum lines for Silicone ones it is now only boosting 1/2 way into the white band on the dash.
The hoses i took off literally fell off and i can only guess that they were acting as a form of bleed valve to the actuator.
At least i know it's not 'overboosting' in relation to fuel map any more.
Feels slower though :-(
Will be on the lookout for remap soon now
Post 734872 by M-R-P on 2014-09-12 17:22:27
Throw some blues in there and a bleed valve dude :)
Post 734881 by jdavis on 2014-09-12 18:19:55
[QUOTE=M-R-P;734872]Throw some blues in there and a bleed valve dude :)[/QUOTE]
Like your thinking but need to get the ECU thinking right first.
Post 735254 by AshDVS on 2014-09-14 11:08:40
The wheels suit the car really well!
With the roof rails, mine were looking fairly ordinary too. We simply got the chunkier set from a '98-'00 V70XC (also the same as '00 V70 R and other models) and I got them painted in a matte finish which was the same colour as my wheels (though the wheels are gloss) and, while metallic, it blends in well with the normal grey.
I'm still waiting on the trim to suit the chunkier rails, but you get the idea -
The colour is Ford FPV Dark Argent
Post 741472 by jdavis on 2014-10-11 16:20:43
Another small update, rear spoiler painted and fitted, finish isn't perfect but it does the job for now
Post 741480 by jdavis on 2014-10-11 17:14:54
Another small update, rear spoiler painted and fitted, finish isn't perfect but it does the job for now
Post 756662 by jdavis on 2015-01-19 20:00:01
Good news. Mot passed first time, no advisories. Happy days.
Post 756813 by bunka T5 on 2015-01-21 08:46:36
I purchased a 96 Turquoise 850 T5 recently, claimed '304 BHP Rica Map'.. I'll be honest I'm not sure what 300 hp feels like as my last car was a 195 something BHP 2.5t... and it certainly feels psychotic in comparison, wheelspins far too much to be sensible for my wallet! I wish cars came with a rolling road readout by law if they got sold under claimed HP increases / maps so it can put us plebs mind at rest !
Post 764403 by jdavis on 2015-03-18 20:38:14
Well this is what she looks like after a quick wash and wipe down with Tesco's finest (simoniz)
Progress is slow.
Post 782487 by jdavis on 2015-08-19 22:02:58
Took a chance and bought a set of the pro sport coilovers. Also got some powerflex bushes for the lower arms. Transformed is and understatement.
Post 782490 by kmb on 2015-08-19 22:13:48
Looks good, how's the drive?
Post 782496 by jdavis on 2015-08-19 22:35:13
Spot on to be fair, no knocks, no bangs, no new rattles.
It's harder than the previous but not as harsh, I think it was knackered. It had kyb shock absorbers so it's had new ones at some point.
I kept the oem spring cup and bearing on the front as I wasn't comfortable with how it fitted without the spring cup.
Also the lower arm bushes were pretty much none existent!!! The centre fell put they were that worn! The arms were non genuine, stamped with 11/2011, so I expect they were last changed sometime around then.
New discs and pads as well, needed new caliper carrier bolts from volvo as the previous owner had rounded them off (explains why there was new pads but old discs).
Also sprung a water leak at the back of the engine, identified it as the small hose connecting the turbo coolant return banjo line to the header tank pipe. £9.78 Inc clips from volvo, special order but arrived next day.
All in a happy couple of weeks on the 850
Post 782502 by Biff on 2015-08-19 23:02:51
Looks well dude.
Post 782523 by jdavis on 2015-08-20 07:14:38
thanks, im impressed with them to be fair. Read good and bad reviews on the suspension but so far so good.
Post 792295 by jdavis on 2015-11-30 05:18:26
Showed the volvo a bit of love ready for winter.
Post 792299 by bunka T5 on 2015-11-30 08:00:00
Genuine all round I see! How are the prosport coilovers a few months on now? Bought some Bilsteins and getting round to fitting them some point, fitted with my Kilen 40mm 'sport' springs is low enough..
Post 792311 by jdavis on 2015-11-30 10:40:47
They are pretty good to be fair. No problems with them. It handles like it's on rails and is no firmer than I expected.
I always try and use genuine maintenance parts where possible and for the price difference it wasn't worth going for pattern stuff. £48 delivered for 4L coolant and thermostat.
To do list in no particular order:
Get bonnet painted/replacement fitted
Paint grille leaving chrome sash
Fit my 18s from p2
New disks and pads all round
Thorough service
And more...
