Shame it's a auto :smirk: it's been up for sale a long time,at that price it will be for sale for a very long time.
end of the plate speaks my mind :)
I think the drugs must be pretty good around the owners area.
An early gaytronic thats been used for towing........at 10k..............no thanks.
It's a whole lot of money, I had a ph3 v70r with same box, not my favourite auto box at all. However I like my p2r auto 6sp as a daily. But 10k, no thanks, it is very clean looking £5-6?
Expensive
It is expensive, especially without a turbo....'normally aspirated' (a bit like naturally aspirated)
[QUOTE=Ettienne;731173]It's a whole lot of money, I had a ph3 v70r with same box, not my favourite auto box at all. However I like my p2r auto 6sp as a daily. But 10k, no thanks, it is very clean looking £5-6?[/QUOTE] I had the 4-speeds (including a phase 2 V70R) then now got a 6-speed autobox in the S60, missed out the 5-speed altogether partly due to luck, partly due to hearing horror stories
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;731178]It is expensive, especially without a turbo....'normally aspirated' (a bit like naturally aspirated)[/QUOTE] Should be a turbo, I had the 4 sp v70r ph1 and a couple of t5r and 850r autos, but the are not a patch on the later stuff (5sp included). My 5sp had a bad gear change 3 to 4 th meaning it dropped off boost as 4th was a long gear, very annoying on motor way on hard acceleration annoying BMW drivers. Tbh I had no issues with my 5 sp and it had 220k on the clock
I know it says 'normally aspirated' (obviously a typo). It does also have the 'Family pack', meaning there are booster seats built into the rear child seats along with a folding out table and cupholders. Also will have a extra switch on the drivers door switch pack that enables/disables the rear windows. It is immaculate by all accounts and without looking under the bonnet, totally standard. Meaning...at 69k it will still drive like a new car but you'll have the next 20k-40k of slowly replacing parts that wear and that will no doubt include bevel box. Just becasue it has a tow bar on the back, doesn't mean it's been dragging a horse box!! It may just have been used for a little weekend trailer for taking the pruned hedging down the dump..what, what, what!! Taking all this in to consideration, I think Etienne 5-6k is a little harsh considering only a second owner car, FDSH and the immaculate condition. I would happily pay £8,000 for that car but not a penny over! He's got no chance at £10k.
Looks in very good nick, why can't they ask for £10k? He maybe in no rush to sell it, and of course you could offer £8k and both parties would be happy.
My problem with all the s60/v70r 5spd auto is that its simply not a strong box, even with the limited torque. The R is supposed to be a quick car and with that box, it isn't. If you must have an auto s60/v70r then go for the 6spd, as its a better, stronger box and isn't limited to 258lb/ft either.
[QUOTE=LiamT4;731218]My problem with all the s60/v70r 5spd auto is that its simply not a strong box, even with the limited torque. The R is supposed to be a quick car and with that box, it isn't. If you must have an auto s60/v70r then go for the 6spd, as its a better, stronger box and isn't limited to 258lb/ft either.[/QUOTE] It feels limited in 1st / 2nd I thought they where, but as you say much much better
[QUOTE=Ettienne;731221]It feels limited in 1st / 2nd I thought they where, but as you say much much better[/QUOTE] A lot of autos are limited in 1st and 2nd but the max torque in the 5spd autos is 258lb/ft. I'm not 100% sure if the 6spd is limited in 1st and 2nd (i think it is, but not as much), but its max torque is around 295lb/ft.
A little but less I wonder what they go like mapped
[QUOTE=Ettienne;731554]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-039-03-VOLVO-V70-R-AWD2-5-300-BHP-GEARTRONIC-2003MY-SILVER-ESTATE-NO-TAX-amp-MOT-/171435910532?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item27ea606584&nma=true&si=YIztrYyEoIlS8P1vhiDet5UqmF8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Check this one very cheap[/QUOTE] The listing's ended mate. How about one with an auto box, and shot AWD system? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-53-VOLVO-V70-R-2-5-300-BHP-GEARTRONIC-2004MY-GREY-ESTATE-2015-TAX-MOT/221516893006?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D25293%26meid%3De0042b4260d1495fb2575cfacc8ef054%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D10621%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D171435910532
that silver one was cheap i missed a billy bargin a while back a black 2004 s60R with an abs fault 1000
[QUOTE=martybelfastt5;731578]that silver one was cheap i missed a billy bargin a while back a black 2004 s60R with an abs fault 1000[/QUOTE] Damn, that is a bargain. There is a lot of crap out there, I looked at a S60R for Kingsford a while ago, it had LPG, but it was a real dog. The scariest thing were the brakes, the pedal was on the floor before they worked, and there was a hissing noise when the pedal was pressed, sounded like the master cylinder had gone to me, but the guy selling it reckoned they just needed bleeding. :slap:
I know where there is a v70r flash green with a split liner sitting, with spare engine to put in, I'm waiting on the owner to get back to me.
[QUOTE=LiamT4;731228]A lot of autos are limited in 1st and 2nd but the max torque in the 5spd autos is 258lb/ft. I'm not 100% sure if the 6spd is limited in 1st and 2nd (i think it is, but not as much), but its max torque is around 295lb/ft.[/QUOTE] I can confirm, all of the P2R auto files are torque limited from the factory, that is a fact.
[QUOTE=stribo;731582]Damn, that is a bargain. There is a lot of crap out there, I looked at a S60R for Kingsford a while ago, it had LPG, but it was a real dog. The scariest thing were the brakes, the pedal was on the floor before they worked, and there was a hissing noise when the pedal was pressed, sounded like the master cylinder had gone to me, but the guy selling it reckoned they just needed bleeding. :slap:[/QUOTE] yes had a 2.0 turbo s60 had that problem got it for 300 sold it for 450 i think the s60R had the same problem i even know the car didnt put his phone number on ad and never responed to my mails so can only assume it sold ........pulled up beside it in a garage forecourt when i had the red s60r was unusuall to see another lol we both complemented each others cars inc the s70R that was following me lol
[QUOTE=Dream3r;731591]I can confirm, all of the P2R auto files are torque limited from the factory, that is a fact.[/QUOTE] How much toque does the 6spd auto R produce?
[QUOTE=Dream3r;731591]I can confirm, all of the P2R auto files are torque limited from the factory, that is a fact.[/QUOTE] They said the 6 speed autos aren't that's 2006 on cars only ?.
The ecu caps load and therefore torque based on input from the tcm. On the cars I've seen, you won't go past stock torque in the first two years unless you change the mapping in either ecu. I guess that depends on tcm software too. But that's my findings :) it seems to be a common misconception. All other auto t5 files ive looked at are also the same.
[QUOTE=Harvey;731963]They said the 6 speed autos aren't that's 2006 on cars only ?.[/QUOTE] That seems to be ££££££££ based on my findings so far.
Thought i'd read it on a volvo brochure about the 6 spd auto producing 295lb/ft, but i can't seem to find anything now......maybe confused with something else.
[QUOTE=Dream3r;731965]That seems to be ££££££££ based on my findings so far.[/QUOTE] Sorry I just don't know for sure but did google this ?. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=v70r%202006%206%20speed%20auto%20torque&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CAwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.swedespeed.com%2Fshowthread.php%3F63432-V70R-6-speed-Geartronic-Torque-question&ei=o43_U_SeL8Wv7AboqoHQCA&usg=AFQjCNFp0k_y2t-iDEmp7eTDp-eqtEclxA
[QUOTE=Harvey;731973]Sorry I just don't know for sure but did google this ?. http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=v70r%202006%206%20speed%20auto%20torque&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CAwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.swedespeed.com%2Fshowthread.php%3F63432-V70R-6-speed-Geartronic-Torque-question&ei=o43_U_SeL8Wv7AboqoHQCA&usg=AFQjCNFp0k_y2t-iDEmp7eTDp-eqtEclxA[/QUOTE] Interesting but still nothing 100%.
Well I was looking at the assembly code last night so there is no doubt. Plus the countless cars that's been logged with my software in the US showing the phenomenon . The only avenue for that not being entirely correct is if there is tcm software that doesn't limit torque as described. I doubt it exists big you never know..
Which means there wasn't any torque limiting on 06 from factory, the factory tune would never hit it, duh I just realised.
[QUOTE=Dream3r;732006]Which means there wasn't any torque limiting on 06 from factory, the factory tune would never hit it, duh I just realised.[/QUOTE] So they do produce 295lb/ft then, even in 1st and 2nd?
They're limited to around 1 bar in those gears from the factory. So whatever the engine is putting out on the stock map is what you'll get. Tuned cars will hit the torque limiter, assuming they request more than one bar
[QUOTE=Dream3r;732034]They're limited to around 1 bar in those gears from the factory. So whatever the engine is putting out on the stock map is what you'll get. Tuned cars will hit the torque limiter, assuming they request more than one bar[/QUOTE] That makes sense. Even my 2.0t auto feels like it runs lower boost in 1st and that only produces about 180lb/ft max.
[QUOTE=LiamT4;732039]That makes sense. Even my 2.0t auto feels like it runs lower boost in 1st and that only produces about 180lb/ft max.[/QUOTE] The auto files that I've seen all do it. It's there to stop the turbo melting the gearbox though! I've completely removed the torque limiting on request before.
[QUOTE=Dream3r;732155]The auto files that I've seen all do it. It's there to stop the turbo melting the gearbox though! I've completely removed the torque limiting on request before.[/QUOTE] How do they go unlimited? And are the later boxes post 05 better for this. They can't be too bad as it's the same box in the t6 s60 and polestar, which has launch control.
They go like stink in the 2.4 T5. The older cars go well too. I know someone who broke a 2003 s60R box with boost low down, but Volvo obviously engineered the torque limiting into their files so they think the box needs it. It's like anything else in tuning cars, you are taking a risk. How does the T6 launch work? I never knew it had that.
Polestar has launch control. Post 05 have awd-80sc gearbox, 6 speed. (Not the pre 05 5 sp 55/51sn) This is the box the polestar has, I'm guessing it holds revs high and keep boost up then engages. The polestar is approx 370ft lb of torque, makes me wonder on later v70rs if it would break the box if unlimited, as no launch control or 370ft lbs
Maybe you could map launch control on one
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWTF-80_SC This link says they can handle 325ft lbs, 05 onwards are 295ft lb on the auto. Sounds like limiter needs removing.