Oi, there are limits! http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/announcement.php?f=63&a=14 Basically anything on the pornographic side isn't suitable, anything that advertises external porn sites is not suitable. Basically Breasts are fine (and possibly moobs to balance it out for the female members) but that's where the limit is.
Thanks James. Don't worry Rich, I'll go through my (vast) collection and post a few pic's to 'cool people down a bit' lol
There's always one ££££ who spoils it for everyone else, and that ££££ really is pissing the majority of people off now.
Can't blame James for that one, the pictures were getting more and more explicit................theres some give in the barriers but they don't break.
[QUOTE=Santa;739702]Can't blame James for that one, the pictures were getting more and more explicit................theres some give in the barriers but they don't break.[/QUOTE] I understand that mate, but there's only one person that made a fuss.
[QUOTE=stribo;739704]I understand that mate, but there's only one person that made a fuss.[/QUOTE] Publicly
doh ok noted
I removed the thread after receiving several complaints. I'm not happy that I had to go and look, I always said over 18's was nothing to do with me. So yeah think about what you are posting and who might have to view it that doesn't necessarily want to :-/
Mods have been busy tonight lol.
Dammit... Back to Google...
Both threads removed? They might not be to everyone's taste but quite a bit of work went into them What shall we read now? At least the Ian Watkins thread is still there
[QUOTE=stribo;739701]There's always one ££££ who spoils it for everyone else, and that ££££ really is pissing the majority of people off now.[/QUOTE] Right, that's it. I'm definitely off to VOC now!! :(
Over 18's continues to be an experiment but we need limits on pornographic material. Even though trying to accommodate a level the vast majority of the users of the over 18 forum can easily "tolerate" is a big concern, so is keeping within the T&C's of our internet transit carriers. (Which explicitly forbid the transit of content of an adult nature, those that allow generally cost more and for a site which is predominantly car related going down that route shouldn't be required). The Ian Watkins thread is also still under review whenever it is added to.
[QUOTE=Santa;739728]Over 18's continues to be an experiment but we need limits on pornographic material. Even though trying to accommodate a level the vast majority of the users of the over 18 forum can easily "tolerate" is a big concern, so is keeping within the T&C's of our internet transit carriers. (Which explicitly forbid the transit of content of an adult nature, those that allow generally cost more and for a site which is predominantly car related going down that route shouldn't be required). The Ian Watkins thread is also still under review whenever it is added to.[/QUOTE] I just feel it was heavy handed to delete two entire threads. None of the stuff was openly hard core (according to my own definition of the phrase), more implied, which is not much worse than you can get on the TV after the watershed if we still have one. But of soft core stuff does not go with your T&Cs then fair enough. Also, with it being hidden away on the over 18 section and title Bums & boobs or whatever, I assumed that the people opening it would know what to expect. I'm surprised that a minority of people on here bother to join the over 18s section, click on the over 18s section, then open a thread obviously containing some over 18 material focusing on the female form, then complain about it. Anyway, noted, like I said.
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;739733]I just feel it was heavy handed to delete two entire threads. None of the stuff was openly hard core (according to my own definition of the phrase), more implied, which is not much worse than you can get on the TV after the watershed if we still have one. But of soft core stuff does not go with your T&Cs then fair enough. Also, with it being hidden away on the over 18 section and title Bums & boobs or whatever, I assumed that the people opening it would know what to expect. I'm surprised that a minority of people on here bother to join the over 18s section, click on the over 18s section, then open a thread obviously containing some over 18 material focusing on the female form, then complain about it. Anyway, noted, like I said.[/QUOTE] And I note your comments and partially agree, unfortunately the cause of the restrictions isn't just about what peoples expectations would be of a boob thread. That said, whole frontal nudity isn't just boobs. A picture that appears to have someones thumb pressing into someones ££££££££ isnt just a picture of a bum. This is essentially a car forum with a not work safe section, not a pornographic site with the sites where the image source is advertised.
My main concern on the Boobs n Bums thread was the potential age issues of those photographed....a fair few of them barely looked 18, many photos the faces were hidden and made it virtually impossible to distinguish their age. There was a member on here a few years back that was convicted (iirc) of possessing indecent images on his computer. Whether he was guilty or innocent, I don't know, but I feel those threads could POTENTIALLY and accidentally have included images of underage women/girls. Obviously something that nobody on here wants or to be part of. Also it seems a few of the images were avoiding the sacred swear filter with captions 'F**K Virginity' watermarked across them.
I didn't mind it one bit being on here I even interacted with it but to be fair this is a car forum if you want boobs and vag that's what Google is for. It doesn't put me up nor down if these threads are here or not. I think it's quite dangerous due to the fact you could quite easily step over the line with the posts and the forum could be closed down... ? Or am I speaking rubbish?
[QUOTE=stephenevans99;739736]My main concern on the Boobs n Bums thread was the potential age issues of those photographed....a fair few of them barely looked 18, many photos the faces were hidden and made it virtually impossible to distinguish their age. There was a member on here a few years back that was convicted (iirc) of possessing indecent images on his computer. Whether he was guilty or innocent, I don't know, but I feel those threads could POTENTIALLY and accidentally have included images of underage women/girls. Obviously something that nobody on here wants or to be part of. Also it seems a few of the images were avoiding the sacred swear filter with captions 'F**K Virginity' watermarked across them.[/QUOTE] ah the old 'Paedo' card. Well played sir. Well I think that brings the discussion to an end. Far be it from me to debate ages of consent and thumbs in bottoms. Swear filter in an over 18s section btw? U sure?
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;739745]ah the old 'Paedo' card. Well played sir.[/QUOTE] Thankyou :B_thumb: although I feel it wasn't a compliment.
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;739745]ah the old 'Paedo' card. Well played sir. Well I think that brings the discussion to an end. Far be it from me to debate ages of consent and thumbs in bottoms. Swear filter in an over 18s section btw? U sure?[/QUOTE] The swear filters everywhere......watching what we write.......mainly a software limitation on not being able to restrict it. No ones stopping you debating Jamesy but if thats one of Stephens concerns it should be given the respect of any other concern displayed
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;739745]ah the old 'Paedo' card. Well played sir. Well I think that brings the discussion to an end. Far be it from me to debate ages of consent and thumbs in bottoms. Swear filter in an over 18s section btw? U sure?[/QUOTE] Of course there's a swear filter in over 18's we seem to have some fragile members who can't self censor.
[QUOTE=stephenevans99;739747]Thankyou :B_thumb: although I feel it wasn't a compliment.[/QUOTE] no bad feelings from me, mate, as Santa says above you are entitled to your opinion & I respect that. I'm just hacked off that what I see to be a harmless bit of fun has turned out like this. The Burkini's I posted are for me the utmost symbol of female oppression, so a little tongue in cheek (good job we didn't post any tongue in cheek pics!!!!). Entirely opposite from how I think the world should be.
I fully understand your situation rich but the main failure point here is where was the mod of that section who should review its content and decided between all of you behind the scenes which pictures are acceptable and to which are not. this has clearly not happend and as a result the entire threads have been removed. if you deemed all of the pictures was of a material not suitable to be on here then that is totally fair but I feel that wasnt the situation but silly james highlighting a point and you had to react.
Pete I had reported posts from several members! I did not act on anything public! I removed the whole lot because I did not wish to go through the thread and see more than I already had. I am by no means a prude BUT there is a time and a place for such explicit images and IMO a car forum is not them. Over 18's is opt in, however as an admin I don't have a choice!!
[QUOTE=t5 pete;739763]I fully understand your situation rich but the main failure point here is where was the mod of that section who should review its content and decided between all of you behind the scenes which pictures are acceptable and to which are not. this has clearly not happend and as a result the entire threads have been removed. if you deemed all of the pictures was of a material not suitable to be on here then that is totally fair but I feel that wasnt the situation but silly james highlighting a point and you had to react.[/QUOTE] Firstly thats a good point, the threads were unfortunately allowed to run to a point, though it wasn't James comment which caused the reaction. Secondly, can we honestly ask anyone to take the time to examine all the pics and edit accordingly? That wouldn't be very fair.
[QUOTE=Santa;739766]Firstly thats a good point, the threads were unfortunately allowed to run to a point, though it wasn't James comment which caused the reaction. Secondly, can we honestly ask anyone to take the time to examine all the pics and edit accordingly? That wouldn't be very fair.[/QUOTE] I'd happily do it. ;)
[QUOTE=stribo;739768]I'd happily do it. ;)[/QUOTE] Why do I have a feeling we wouldn't necessarily remove the same quantity of stuff? Lol
[QUOTE=Santa;739769]Why do I have a feeling we wouldn't necessarily remove the same quantity of stuff? Lol[/QUOTE] I can't imagine what you mean. :D
So coming back to limit Chest only level of nudity (other than legs, arms, face, you know normal levels of nudity most people in the UK would see normally on the streets of the UK). No implied or actual sexual actions Think 25. If they don't look over 25 the Internet Watch Foundation may need to get involved. And the above may get revised as we go.
It's a difficult one this. On the one hand, I really liked the pics posted. I'm sure the vast majority of people on the forum enjoyed looking at them also. But it was hardly ££££ material. There's plenty of that, easy to find and just a click away! Not that I would frequent such sites :firedevil On the other hand, this is a car forum. Yes a lot of general non car related stuff does go on here. But pictures of tits and ass? And lets face it, there was a few sneaky pussy shots in there!! Does it really have a place here, not really IMHO. I was pretty surprised when it was allowed in the first place, especially when you can't even write down a swear word. Whilst on the subject - a little swear filter rant!!! - You know "f**k" still says "f u c k", right? Just because there's is an asterisk it does not shield the innocent ears and eyes of the unsweary (a word?) people. They still know it says *f u c k*. When they read the text they still read the word "f u c k* in their head. The swear filter is a pointless system. Back on topic... I am the first in the line for a vote of do what you want, when you want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. We are all adults and should be able to conduct ourselves accordingly. However in this case, I think it would just be better to bin off the whole over 18 section and the leeway to able to post adult related material which could cause offence to some people. Just one last point I'd like to make. The people who complained, what did you think your were going to see when you opened a thread which said come here to look at some tits and ass?? If that sort of stuff offends you, why are you looking at it in the first place? And then complain about it? Doesn't make sense to me.
Pissed me off when the over 18's section still had a swear filter on it. What's the point? it's like getting in the bath with your socks on...
[QUOTE=M-R-P;739857]Pissed me off when the over 18's section still had a swear filter on it. What's the point? [COLOR="#FF0000"]it's like getting in the bath with your socks on...[/QUOTE] [/COLOR] Is that like some foot fetish you have? dam this forum's getting weirder by the day :)
[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;739844]It's a difficult one this. On the one hand, I really liked the pics posted. I'm sure the vast majority of people on the forum enjoyed looking at them also. But it was hardly ££££ material. There's plenty of that, easy to find and just a click away! Not that I would frequent such sites :firedevil On the other hand, this is a car forum. Yes a lot of general non car related stuff does go on here. But pictures of tits and ass? And lets face it, there was a few sneaky pussy shots in there!! Does it really have a place here, not really IMHO. I was pretty surprised when it was allowed in the first place, especially when you can't even write down a swear word. Whilst on the subject - a little swear filter rant!!! - You know "f**k" still says "f u c k", right? Just because there's is an asterisk it does not shield the innocent ears and eyes of the unsweary (a word?) people. They still know it says *f u c k*. When they read the text they still read the word "f u c k* in their head. The swear filter is a pointless system. Back on topic... I am the first in the line for a vote of do what you want, when you want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. We are all adults and should be able to conduct ourselves accordingly. However in this case, I think it would just be better to bin off the whole over 18 section and the leeway to able to post adult related material which could cause offence to some people. [COLOR="#FF0000"]Just one last point I'd like to make. The people who complained, what did you think your were going to see when you opened a thread which said come here to look at some tits and ass?? If that sort of stuff offends you, why are you looking at it in the first place? And then complain about it? Doesn't make sense to me.[/QUOTE][/COLOR] These are the same people who, when watching something on T.V. they don't like, rather than changing channel, will watch the whole thing, then complain about it. Unfortunately the world is full of idiots, and some of them have made it onto this forum.
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;739865][/COLOR] Is that like some foot fetish you have? dam this forum's getting weirder by the day :)[/QUOTE] After the video you sent me, I don't think you're in a position to comment on weird fetishes Jim lol
Swear filter is a bit crap, basically its on or off. Thanks for all your comments guys, its given me a couple of ideas.
[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;739844]It's a difficult one this. On the one hand, I really liked the pics posted. I'm sure the vast majority of people on the forum enjoyed looking at them also. But it was hardly ££££ material. There's plenty of that, easy to find and just a click away! Not that I would frequent such sites :firedevil On the other hand, this is a car forum. Yes a lot of general non car related stuff does go on here. But pictures of tits and ass? And lets face it, there was a few sneaky pussy shots in there!! Does it really have a place here, not really IMHO. I was pretty surprised when it was allowed in the first place, especially when you can't even write down a swear word. Whilst on the subject - a little swear filter rant!!! - You know "f**k" still says "f u c k", right? Just because there's is an asterisk it does not shield the innocent ears and eyes of the unsweary (a word?) people. They still know it says *f u c k*. When they read the text they still read the word "f u c k* in their head. The swear filter is a pointless system. Back on topic... I am the first in the line for a vote of do what you want, when you want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. We are all adults and should be able to conduct ourselves accordingly. However in this case, I think it would just be better to bin off the whole over 18 section and the leeway to able to post adult related material which could cause offence to some people. Just one last point I'd like to make. The people who complained, what did you think your were going to see when you opened a thread which said come here to look at some tits and ass?? [COLOR="#FF0000"] If that sort of stuff offends you, why are you looking at it in the first place? And then complain about it? Doesn't make sense to me.[/COLOR][/QUOTE] Because they can't actually believe that some one would be so stupid as to post it on a car forum. VPCUK stands for Volvo Performance Club United Kingdom. Unfortunately it was potentially interpreted as "Volvo Poronographic Club United Kingdom". Anyway on a lighter note, I'm putting up a new thread in the Over 18's section shortly, it involves naked chess pieces. It'll be 'Pawn-ography'....... :smileypul :mischievo
[QUOTE=JamesT5;740097]Because they can't actually believe that some one would be so stupid as to post it on a car forum. VPCUK stands for Volvo Performance Club United Kingdom. Unfortunately it was potentially interpreted as "Volvo Poronographic Club United Kingdom". Anyway on a lighter note, I'm putting up a new thread in the Over 18's section shortly, it involves naked chess pieces. It'll be 'Pawn-ography'....... :smileypul :mischievo[/QUOTE] You really are a sad man, your attempts at humour are contemptible at best, how about you give your couple of brain cells a year off.
[QUOTE=stribo;740103]You really are a sad man, your attempts at humour are contemptible at best, how about you give your couple of brain cells a year off.[/QUOTE] :sinner:
[QUOTE=JamesT5;740097]Because they can't actually believe that some one would be so stupid as to post it on a car forum. [/QUOTE] That doesn't answer the question. You know what is in the thread before you click on it, it says it right in the title. The real answer is that those people who complained have nothing better to do and aren't happy unless they complain about something to someone. Why did those people look in the first place? Because they bloody wanted to, the dirty little perverts(!!), and then after they finished throwing it over their thumb they felt guilty, so complained.
[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;740110]That doesn't answer the question. You know what is in the thread before you click on it, it says it right in the title. [COLOR="#FF0000"]The real answer is that those people who complained have nothing better to do and aren't happy unless they complain about something to someone. Why did those people look in the first place?[/COLOR] Because they bloody wanted to, the dirty little perverts(!!), and then after they finished throwing it over their thumb they felt guilty, so complained.[/QUOTE] Sounds a bit like some of the reactions to some of my threads. :wavey:
[QUOTE=JamesT5;740097]Because they can't actually believe that some one would be so stupid as to post it on a car forum. VPCUK stands for Volvo Performance Club United Kingdom. Unfortunately it was potentially interpreted as "Volvo Poronographic Club United Kingdom". Anyway on a lighter note, I'm putting up a new thread in the Over 18's section shortly, it involves naked chess pieces. It'll be 'Pawn-ography'....... :smileypul :mischievo[/QUOTE] u r so pitiful in this situation... thought ppl will support u in yr idea to ban my work, I did for months, without warning. Why didnt u tell me in the therdas that u r annoyed or want me to stop or sort pics better and more proper? I was ALWAYS open for offers and guys preferences. Why u were like a slug/a slick opportunist complaining behind my back to admins? and now try to fix this moment when guys showed that threads was not so terrible like U ONLY thought, by making pity jokes and promises... oh dear
[QUOTE=JamesT5;740097]Because they can't actually believe that some one would be so stupid as to post it on a car forum. VPCUK stands for Volvo Performance Club United Kingdom. Unfortunately it was potentially interpreted as "Volvo Poronographic Club United Kingdom". Anyway on a lighter note, I'm putting up a new thread in the Over 18's section shortly, it involves naked chess pieces. It'll be 'Pawn-ography'....... :smileypul :mischievo[/QUOTE] u r so pitiful in this situation... thought ppl will support u in yr idea to ban my work, I did for months, without warning. Why didnt u tell me in the therdas that u r annoyed or want me to stop or sort pics better and more proper? I was ALWAYS open for offers and guys preferences. Why u were like a slug/a slick opportunist complaining behind my back to admins? and now try to fix this moment when guys showed that threads was not so terrible like U ONLY thought, by making pity jokes and promises... oh dear [ATTACH=CONFIG]27054[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=ks_p;740195]u r so pitiful in this situation... thought ppl will support u in yr idea to ban my work, I did for months, without warning. Why didnt u tell me in the therdas that u r annoyed or want me to stop or sort pics better and more proper? I was ALWAYS open for offers and guys preferences. Why u were like a slug/a slick opportunist complaining behind my back to admins? and now try to fix this moment when guys showed that threads was not so terrible like U ONLY thought, by making pity jokes and promises... oh dear[/QUOTE] Now now. Some of the content just shouldn't have been there or on this site for the reasons I've stated throughout this thread, some points of which trump anyones individual preference. Now lets not let this get personal towards any one person. I've now outlined the limit.
[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;740110] Because they bloody wanted to, the dirty little perverts(!!), and then after they finished throwing it over their thumb they felt guilty, so complained.[/QUOTE] bravo!!! u have read my mind! [ATTACH=CONFIG]27056[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=Santa;740203]Now now. Now lets not let this get personal towards any one person. I've now outlined the limit.[/QUOTE] What "now now" and What "not let this get personal"??? Haha! james5whatever just called me stupid in this thread))) i am the person who starting personal offence? Oo BTW, give me back all my collection - i didnt make any backups. and u can do whatever u want on YR forum abour cars! i thought for normal real men cars and girls are cannot be separated... i was wrong about uk guys mean)) haha!
[QUOTE=ks_p;740223]What "now now" and What "not let this get personal"??? Haha! james5whatever just called me stupid in this thread))) i am the person who starting personal offence? Oo BTW, give me back all my collection - i didnt make any backups. and u can do whatever u want on YR forum abour cars! i thought for normal real men cars and girls are cannot be separated... i was wrong about uk guys mean)) haha![/QUOTE] That goes for anyone, why should it be personal and if you want to get personal about it, it's gone, pictures like many of those posted by you arent coming back, you can blame me for it. BTW the forum isnt a personal storage cloud for your backups and yes I could do whatever I want but I like to try and be reasonable.
Just to note, I didn't do anything behind anyone's back. My comments were made public on the thread (just need to point that out, ok?) :D
I'm not fussed either way about the pictures, they weren't my type lol All I will say is that as ks_p has said this could have all been avoided had a warning been issued a lot earlier.
[QUOTE=JamesT5;740231]Just to note, I didn't do anything behind anyone's back. My comments were made public on the thread (just need to point that out, ok?) :D[/QUOTE] i posted pics and went to sleep, ok? next morning i have got msg from admin that my threads were deleted and worning NEVER post such pics again! Got it, prudy? :cuckoo:
[QUOTE=V70 Graham;740233]I'm not fussed either way about the pictures, they weren't my type lol All I will say is that as ks_p has said this could have all been avoided had a warning been issued a lot earlier.[/QUOTE] And I agree to that but we are where we are.
Also as a note ks_p, it appears you have uploaded to the site many images you hadn't the rights to. (Grossly against the forum rules). Now I've gotta go through all your attachments and delete them. (FML, who'd run a forum!).
[QUOTE=Santa;740240]Also as a note ks_p, it appears you have uploaded to the site many images you hadn't the rights to. (Grossly against the forum rules). Now I've gotta go through all your attachments and delete them. (FML, who'd run a forum!).[/QUOTE] r u all crazy there about some rights??:cuckoo: everywhere in Europe - OUR RIGTHS! OUR RIGHTS! like lemmings u even cannot make a official VPCUK calendar cos of stupid rights!))))) lol we have no such things in the internet I took pics from) so, maybe we are more frigid to it and wideminded (with a loose hands)[ATTACH=CONFIG]27057[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=Santa;740240]Now I've gotta go through all your attachments and delete them. [/QUOTE] i think maybe better to delete my account and all posts i have done here)) nothing special) what a trifles lol
oops! sorry - i have no copyrights to use spock meme also!! what a shame!! awww(( oh dear Come on! r u serious about chasing everybody for wide-used pics?? even girls i posted were in wide computer net for EVERYBODY look at them)
You may be completely happy with risking the forum with breaches of UK law, unfortunately I'm not that happy to let you. Please check your PM.
Well personally I think that got blown out of all proportion. A pm explaining what is expected would have avoided all of this ill feeling & even abusing each other. Ks_p got her pictures back, thanks, although looks like now is unable to post any pictures at all.