Project T5R "The Gimp"
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Post 741562 by hemihusky on 2014-10-11 19:40:00
So decided id make a thread now that i have time to actually work on my car! considering i bought it and immediately went to Germany in it, broke it, fixed it and got home again XD anyway this will be the project and general maintenance thread where i may need a lil help but i know you guys probably have forgot more than ill ever know about 850's will also need some parts off people as its the chase of perfection but im a long shot off. a lot of things bug me about my car so.
Things i have already done sorta off camera
Replaced rear lights with V70 lights (Clear tops)
Removed the hideous eyelash things
Replaced 1 side roof rail (Its not brilliant cause its a crash damaged rail so it wont sit flush and the seals are pretty shot)
Replaced Rear boot trim with one that has had a repair kit on it so it doesn't rattle all over the place
Replaced the horid blue 7 seat conversion it had with proper T5R black rear boot boards
Planned things to do? Many. many many things and i wont be stopping until ive reached the perfect car for me. even if it means replacing every single bolt, seal, clip and plastic grommet (Curse them all to hell)
Performance wise? im wanting it as a "Fast daily" something fun yet still usable until i have a house with a double garage that i can take the 850 off the road n do a full strip down restoration. so im open to suggestions on performance parts
Anyway enough of me Yapping heres some pics for you all! ill upload more as i resize them and general find where i put them on my mess of a pc
When i bought the car, note the crappy eyelash things
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Original blue seats
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Post 741568 by Biff on 2014-10-11 19:55:55
First of all, replace the tcv & get it mapped before messing with boost etc.
I found out the hard way!!
Best of luck mate, these cars are very addictive as you already know.
Post 741569 by hemihusky on 2014-10-11 19:58:50
oh yeah i got a PCV kit sat waiting for it. planning a major service soon just to give everything the best chance before messing with anything, pcv system, full oil, coolant and gearbox oil change/flush, cambelt, stage 0 tune up and such
Post 744961 by hemihusky on 2014-10-27 18:14:47
So another small update as of late my 850 started making a seriously nasty grinding noise and a whine when you would rev it so dug a little deeper and found it to be a 2 part noise, there was a low drone on idle with the accesory belt removed and a whine when you revved it when the belt was on. the tentioner had bit the dust n i decided whatever was making the noise behined the cam cover needed to go too with a entire genuine volvo timing belt kit and a new water pump for good measure!
This is where it gets interesting as i got all the parts. took it to work and began with a few pieces of advice from some members on here (Thanks jamesT5R and paulT5estate a bunch!) mostly came off with ease apart from that T45 thats right by the frame! (Curse it to hell) pulled the water pump off and it says volvo on it? when i was sold the car off the ebay listing direct "Car has had a new gates water pump and timing belt kit done at 160,000 miles) this pump was a volvo pump, on its last legs and the belt? jeez the belt was about ready to snap with all the cracks and wear it had on it.
also was sold to me as been fully polly bushed. nope nothing touched anti roll bars on its last legs most bushings perished and explains 99% of the noises i hear when driving so, just means i got a even more stock base to work with i guess.
after working through the night and the help of a few ex car mechanics at work we got the belt back on timed up and shes running even more sweet than when i bought it. no engine shake at all now and so far (Touch wood) no leaks at all.
in other news i got my P1 V70 roof rails for it, the nice big chunky ones in superb condition with all mounting points, non rusted clips and those lil plastic things for £55. but the nice supprise when i opened the box was the fact the guy also included those window trims with the rain gutters! score so now it will tidy the look up tonnes ill get a pic up when they are installed and the car has had a wash n polish to remove some scratches caused by recent things!
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Post 748436 by hemihusky on 2014-11-17 22:35:06
So heres a small update and picture fest for everyone of the work so far this year. mainly been to busy/lazy to edit the pics down to forum size! so i installed the new chunky style roof bars off a V70 P1 and gave it another good polish that removed a lot of the scratches and dings the car had. i have a few more parts to install but next is definetly a good service, shes done a lot of miles in the 4 months ive owned it (8000 to be precise) and needs a good working over!
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Post 753089 by AndysR on 2014-12-25 11:07:19
Smart car, looked lovely at the HLM Dyno day.
Post 757928 by hemihusky on 2015-01-29 23:28:03
the noise is a rather fun point currently mainly me girning everywhere with the noise but it does seem to pick its feet up on boost a little faster than before. i mean as much as a standard map can but at least i can say the first "performance" (if you can call it that) mod has been done. tempted by either a new volvo or IPD TCV just to keep the boost steady for when i do get it mapped n wind it up a lil
Post 757934 by MoleT-5R on 2015-01-29 23:48:04
[QUOTE=hemihusky;757928]the noise is a rather fun point currently mainly me girning everywhere with the noise but it does seem to pick its feet up on boost a little faster than before. i mean as much as a standard map can but at least i can say the first "performance" (if you can call it that) mod has been done. tempted by either a new volvo or IPD TCV just to keep the boost steady for when i do get it mapped n wind it up a lil[/QUOTE]
not a bad call, but I'd make sure all the pipework is up to scratch before adding a new tcv if the current one is old or suspect, a stage 0 tune would be a good building block if it's not been done already
Post 757957 by hemihusky on 2015-01-30 10:21:42
i did a stage 0 about 1k miles ago ish and that got it running a lot smoother. the pipework i would change as a standard anyway and all the clips n things. im either looking at the silicone stuff ipd do thats color coded (would be nice for later on in life when ive forgotten what they do as id tag them up) or is it viper performance? that do that re-enforced silicone hose that you can get in 5mm as a vac line i dont know if that would affect any response greatly? i cant imagine those lines would see a terrible amount of bulging n such.
Post 757959 by MoleT-5R on 2015-01-30 10:50:15
[QUOTE=hemihusky;757957]i did a stage 0 about 1k miles ago ish and that got it running a lot smoother. the pipework i would change as a standard anyway and all the clips n things. im either looking at the silicone stuff ipd do thats color coded (would be nice for later on in life when ive forgotten what they do as id tag them up) or is it viper performance? that do that re-enforced silicone hose that you can get in 5mm as a vac line i dont know if that would affect any response greatly? i cant imagine those lines would see a terrible amount of bulging n such.[/QUOTE]
I'm hoping to reduce the amount of silicone hose under the bonnet and replace the unions with quick release type fitting as used in the truck industry on the small airlines and use similar hard pvc piping, thinking it will look a bit different to the norm and possibly eliminate some small problems at the same time
Post 757962 by hemihusky on 2015-01-30 11:21:28
yeah that could work. also think i may need to get mine back up on jacks to see where all my oils dissapearing too. my drives on a slant so when i check it its never quite right. but i do seem to loose a little over time and my sump n gearbox around the diff is splattered in oil. so turbo drain or rear main seal perhaps?
Post 757963 by MoleT-5R on 2015-01-30 11:26:03
[QUOTE=hemihusky;757962]yeah that could work. also think i may need to get mine back up on jacks to see where all my oils dissapearing too. my drives on a slant so when i check it its never quite right. but i do seem to loose a little over time and my sump n gearbox around the diff is splattered in oil. so turbo drain or rear main seal perhaps?[/QUOTE]
replaced the turbo return pipe seals on both the olive t-5r and the v70r awd all nice and dry around there now
Post 757964 by hemihusky on 2015-01-30 11:34:40
ill give that a shot then as i think that a cheaper. and easier option than rear main seal. can the turbo return pipe be dragged out with the turbo still in the car? i know it it was a engine at work itd be nope
Post 757966 by kmb on 2015-01-30 11:54:04
Nice thread, thanks.
I notice you mention that you took your car on a dyno and it has the standard turbo and map, just out of interest how did it fare?
I'd like to know how many miles it's done and how close to book power it remained.
i.e. Do T5 Volvos still make their book power after a 'few' miles?
PS - I know the actual number isn't really reflective but comparison to other cars on the day would be really interesting.
Post 757970 by hemihusky on 2015-01-30 12:06:48
well heres the chart =) the car's done 180K now and on this dyno run it hadnt had a service in a bit as i had been to germany n back. no stage 0 tune. on 95 crappo fuel with a dieing coilpack and it pulled 206 so not terrably bad. im going on RS tunings rollers soon with a freind just to see after my work what it has brought it back up to.
brand shiny new my car had 240. but i really wasnt kind to it at HLM so im sure it has a few horses left under the bonnet
Post 757972 by kmb on 2015-01-30 12:31:12
Thanks, sounds realistic given your comments.
It would be nice to know if a service and a little care here and there brings back the missing ponies, keep us posted :)
It seems a little strange that torque and max power are lower on the second run than they are on the third, but the second run made most clutch power, maybe someone that knows what they're talking about could help me understand this?
Post 757973 by MoleT-5R on 2015-01-30 12:32:13
[QUOTE=hemihusky;757964]ill give that a shot then as i think that a cheaper. and easier option than rear main seal. can the turbo return pipe be dragged out with the turbo still in the car? i know it it was a engine at work itd be nope[/QUOTE]
if i remember correctly, the return pipe has 2 bolts into the turbo, remove these and you can then wiggle it out, you will probably need to replace the gasket as well as the seal to the engine block, or risk it leaking later, a £1 or so extra for peace of mind has got to be worth it...:)
Post 757976 by hemihusky on 2015-01-30 12:43:41
yeah id get both bits just makes sense to me anyway. also my freind said about the inspection plates on the back? are they prone to leaking n do they have a gasket or are they that volvo anarobic sealent stuff
Post 757985 by MoleT-5R on 2015-01-30 14:05:37
[QUOTE=hemihusky;757976]yeah id get both bits just makes sense to me anyway. also my freind said about the inspection plates on the back? are they prone to leaking n do they have a gasket or are they that volvo anarobic sealent stuff[/QUOTE]
not seen any inspection plate on the back, pic below is a 2.0l 10v, I don't remember the T-5 being any different last time it was out
and for comparison this was my rolling road result, standard apart from pipercross panel filter and an HLM304 remap, unfortunately it had thrown a hissy fit that morning so was most probably in limp mode so would do much better on another run now all the codes are clear. your car iirc was, even though it was running down on power, it was kicking out more power than the supposed superior p2 2.4 t-5 something to smile about :)
Post 757987 by hemihusky on 2015-01-30 14:17:17
fair enough. and i see was talking to a few at that day n was told how smooth the power lines n such on mine are is a good sign. ill get the car on the ramps soon ish and have a look as it always sems to settle down to a level then stay but it will loose oil if i top it up? so its not burning it or leaking dramatically
Post 760802 by martybelfastt5 on 2015-02-24 19:20:27
looking great!
Post 762154 by Hound on 2015-03-04 23:19:01
Just been looking through all those pics -- the Gimp is looking fabulous!
Post 763813 by WOODY T5 on 2015-03-14 19:17:40
its coming along very nice this project well done keep up the great work
Post 763815 by hemihusky on 2015-03-14 19:24:19
thanks. it does need some more performance soon but i wanna have everything fixed first before i shove more power or im just gonna break things. 302MM brake upgrade next payday with 4 recon calipers each corner. 302 disks. dunno on pads yet but i will be getting some braded lines too. so i can actually stop when i put the power through it =)
Post 763826 by AcidicDavey on 2015-03-14 20:58:53
Looking great, colour coded handles are a great addition to an 850 ;)
Jealous of the CD changer, my car doesn't appear to have the pre wiring for it would you believe!
Post 763828 by hemihusky on 2015-03-14 21:00:27
think i still got a spare cd autochanger cable if you want that? can bring it to gaydon n ya can have it =)
Post 763829 by AcidicDavey on 2015-03-14 21:01:58
Thanks Husky but I can't be arsed with routing it lol
Cheers though :)
Post 763830 by hemihusky on 2015-03-14 21:09:11
XD fair play i did read up on how to route the cable as its part of the install instructions and 2 words. bugger. that.
Post 763867 by Shinsplintz 101 on 2015-03-15 07:15:48
Looking good fella!
Post 763868 by jamesy12345 on 2015-03-15 09:20:17
Nice & clean, I saw this car at the York meet, in good nick and looking better now. Decals good too
Post 763871 by hemihusky on 2015-03-15 10:00:12
thanks jamesy. the decals were always a mixed bag. six of one like um n half of a dozen dont but i like them so . will say that S70R of yours looked epic at the york meet. but this project seems to be getting somewhere now. its not the bag of bolts i originally bought anyway. just need a sticky caliper sorted and some other bits i wanna replace then the performance fun can begin
Post 763875 by jamesy12345 on 2015-03-15 10:16:24
[QUOTE=hemihusky;763871]thanks jamesy. the decals were always a mixed bag. six of one like um n half of a dozen dont but i like them so . will say that S70R of yours looked epic at the york meet. but this project seems to be getting somewhere now. its not the bag of bolts i originally bought anyway. just need a sticky caliper sorted and some other bits i wanna replace then the performance fun can begin[/QUOTE]
I like them. Not sure what other combination of colours would work but your grey on black looks good. Maybe black on white (ooer) would be OK too if a bit 80's
Thanks fella...the S70R is nice although there's not much work I can claim as my own - all down to previous owner Yosser. I'm just trying not to make it worse ;) it's going to Croft hopefully it will come back the same shape....
Post 763878 by hemihusky on 2015-03-15 10:34:19
i was tempted by white but i thought it may be too bold and in your face so settled for some metalic grey. but when i wanna upgrade to ap's its obiously gonna have to come off propus's as they dont fit under. and ive been looking at white pegs like this V70 below.
nice dont think ill do any track days this year but maybe next year when its all fixed up n running right. n wheres the fun if it all goes right eh? need at least something to go squiffy then you can spend 9 hours swearing at it to fix it =P
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Post 763880 by jamesy12345 on 2015-03-15 10:50:56
Yep grey is a better choice over white. About track days...if it goes, it goes....I just think better to bugger it up on the track than the road)
Post 763883 by hemihusky on 2015-03-15 10:57:22
oh yeah lot better on the track than the road =) i may take mine to one this year just for the experience money depending of corse. may have a clear out soon as i got a set of spare blue injectors door handles air box's n a whole hoast of other crap i dont need. may be able to get enough for a tank of fuel =P
Post 763884 by jamesy12345 on 2015-03-15 11:00:01
[QUOTE=hemihusky;763883]oh yeah lot better on the track than the road =) i may take mine to one this year just for the experience money depending of corse. may have a clear out soon as i got a set of spare blue injectors door handles air box's n a whole hoast of other crap i dont need. may be able to get enough for a tank of fuel =P[/QUOTE]
It is good experience, you don't need to try and beat everything just turn up & have a go. Pm'd about the injectors btw
Post 765196 by Nealevo on 2015-03-24 22:19:36
Nice wheels, I had them on my golf mk2 vr6 supercharged. They used to be very sought after and expensive
Post 765197 by t5 pete on 2015-03-24 22:22:07
Very nice I used to have rh cup raiders on my mk2 golf any moons ago they were good strong wheels
Post 765198 by AcidicDavey on 2015-03-24 22:27:17
They're going to look awesome Husky, I think I'm going to regret not buying them myself :P
Have you actually ordered new bolts yet? I reckon some gold or black bolts would look good :)
Post 765199 by hemihusky on 2015-03-24 22:27:22
they seem extremely light! compaired to say my titans or specially my propus! but i thought this too. usualy sought after. i paid £300 for those 4 and they are like fresh refurbs after some scrubbing! gonna stick some chrome bolts on them and i got some genuine chrome metal RH center caps comming soon (one of the reasons i got um so cheap) and nice they are already in 5x108 =)
Post 765200 by hemihusky on 2015-03-24 22:27:53
debating atm davey. chrome or black
Post 765800 by hemihusky on 2015-03-28 21:45:20
right sadly this project has come to a close. for now. its just costing too much as a daily £400 a month insurance is killer. so ive bought a new daily still a ovlov but you will see the project for that come up soon when i have descent pics uploaded
Post 765804 by jamesy12345 on 2015-03-28 21:52:53
shame but that is too much to be paying out. Nice wheels btw
a blurry cone filter appears!
small rubber sealing strip (highly doubt this touches the bonnet but hey will stop ya slicing your fingers on the razor sharp metal edge!)
general hardware and instructions bag
the actual unit itself. has a nice almost brushed finish to it and is reasonably deacent quality. cant realy grumble
nice lil sticker to go with it
hardware to re-mount the boost control solonoid and MAF
and the instructions i may refer to after ive buggered it up!
my wolf wagon on the new propus rims
time to fit this fandangled thing of air induction
old quiet turbo airbox can go bye bye into the garage that is like narnia atm. things go in but never come out. ill be damned if i can find my V70 lights again
time to scrub the general area up. i was expecting a lot worse to be honest!
aaaand all done
the 2nd belt with a glitter finish!
and all the bits installed
new grille!
bye bye old bars
on the car =)
most important badge ;)
Finally sitting right!
cd changer cover cleaned up good as new almost!
and after some autoglym vinyl care it came up even better!
nice and clean =)
dog guard in the daytime!
V70 color coded door handles polished
general side on pic to show the new handles
and after some tire black =)
buggered splitter
my new wheels
close up detail
some lovely polished dish. need the bolts doing though!
awaiting install
made in germany no reps here
stamp of approval!
ET35 gonna be a tight fit!
and already got spigots in. gonna measure these n if they are 65.1 im gonna laugh
