My v70 r nightmare
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Post 743251 by Craigtange on 2014-10-18 15:43:37
Hi all,
Ok where to begin. I have been through 2 engines in my car, and both suffered from a cracked liner. The first engine had 150k on it so fair enough and the second (reconditioned) engine from evolv spares, Preston with 50k on it. My car has the elevate air box with Graeme's 3" intake pipe and his 200cell cat flowing through a ipd 3" oval cat back exhaust. I haven't had the car re-mapped yet. Is this enough to destroy 2 engines or am I just unlucky. The financial hole I am throwing money into is getting crazy. I am willing to roll the dice one more time before I do street fighter bonus round on this car. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated
Thanks Craig
It's a 2005 v70 r
Post 743256 by Harvey on 2014-10-18 16:13:53
Shim the block it's worked for a couple of engines on here.
Post 743257 by claymore on 2014-10-18 16:14:36
If you put another engine in, just make sure you shim the liners first, or you could shim the liners on the block you've just cracked if you have the head off already.
EDIT: to slow...lol
Post 743261 by oblark on 2014-10-18 16:39:49
[QUOTE=Harvey;743256]Shim the block it's worked for a couple of engines on here.[/QUOTE]
Ettienne shimmed his split liner and has no problems seens.
Post 743272 by volvokid on 2014-10-18 17:34:29
Yeah I would go for the shimming before a new one, the 2.5 really is the ££££test engine Volvo has made for the performance cars, I actually wish that someone would take them to court lol.
Post 743274 by Ettienne on 2014-10-18 18:05:44
Definitely shimming it's very easy to do, mine been fine since and it's all town work in traffic in the summer heat, not lost a drop of coolant.
Post 743282 by volvokid on 2014-10-18 19:26:03
Can any garage do this or is it a machine shop job? I want it but I'm scared they reck my engine.
Post 743285 by Harvey on 2014-10-18 19:34:54
[QUOTE=volvokid;743282]Can any garage do this or is it a machine shop job? I want it but I'm scared they reck my engine.[/QUOTE]
If they can change a head gasket,should be fine.
Post 743287 by claymore on 2014-10-18 19:36:55
[QUOTE=volvokid;743282]Can any garage do this or is it a machine shop job? I want it but I'm scared they reck my engine.[/QUOTE]
Any one could do it once the head is off, it's just a case of putting some shims of aluminum or stainless steel between the liners, it only takes 10 minutes.
Post 743288 by volvokid on 2014-10-18 19:37:13
Ok Harvey the reason I asked was because I got told the guy on t5d5 was the only one that could really do it, sorry can't remember his name
Post 743289 by claymore on 2014-10-18 19:38:42
[QUOTE=volvokid;743288]Ok Harvey the reason I asked was because I got told the guy on t5d5 was the only one that could really do it, sorry can't remember his name[/QUOTE]
Tim Williams
Post 743290 by volvokid on 2014-10-18 19:38:55
So its definitely worth it would you say? Just always wairy of stuff like this
Post 743291 by volvokid on 2014-10-18 19:39:37
[QUOTE=claymore;743289]Tim Williams[/QUOTE]
Correct, I even got a price from him and it wasn't that expensive at all.
Post 743292 by claymore on 2014-10-18 19:50:52
[QUOTE=volvokid;743290]So its definitely worth it would you say? Just always wairy of stuff like this[/QUOTE]
It's basically preventative maintenance.
Post 743293 by Ettienne on 2014-10-18 19:52:05
I used my local Indy to replace the head gasket, I shimmed the liners it's not hard to do.
Post 743294 by volvokid on 2014-10-18 20:03:31
[QUOTE=claymore;743292]It's basically preventative maintenance.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly my thinking! Yeah I want this done
Post 743358 by Craigtange on 2014-10-19 04:51:43
I looked at this thread before on shimming. Looks a little complicated. There was a discussion to whether they should be flush or raised....blah blah blah. Does anyone have contact details for this guy. Is he able to travel to Preston to do this or do I have to remove the block and send it to him. To be honest I think I have had enough. What is the point of having 300bhp if you cant use them because the bottom end design is ££££. :(
Post 743359 by Craigtange on 2014-10-19 04:54:56
Can you explain how to do this please. Thanks
Post 743360 by Craigtange on 2014-10-19 05:10:28
[QUOTE=Ettienne;743293]I used my local Indy to replace the head gasket, I shimmed the liners it's not hard to do.[/QUOTE]
Hi there, thanks for the input do you have guidelines on how to do this. Where to get the materials etc.
Post 743372 by claymore on 2014-10-19 09:35:45
[QUOTE=Craigtange;743360]Hi there, thanks for the input do you have guidelines on how to do this. Where to get the materials etc.[/QUOTE]
just use some feeler gauges to find out the size of your slots, cut some strips of aluminum or stainless steel the right thickness and push into the slots, job done.
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Post 743395 by oblark on 2014-10-19 11:34:14
Here`s one I did earlier :)
Post 743459 by Craigtange on 2014-10-19 17:15:21
Hey, guys thanks very much for that info, It does look easier than expected, I assume it has to be a snug fit to hold it in place.
Post 743476 by Redbrick on 2014-10-19 17:53:04
I'll PM you the contact details of Tim Williams, he is based in Coalville. He has shimmed hundreds of Focus ST's and built and mapped my current engine in my 850, which is also shimmed ;) many of us in the Volvo community use him.
Post 743495 by Craigtange on 2014-10-19 18:48:13
[QUOTE=Redbrick;743476]I'll PM you the contact details of Tim Williams, he is based in Coalville. He has shimmed hundreds of Focus ST's and built and mapped my current engine in my 850, which is also shimmed ;) many of us in the Volvo community use him.[/QUOTE]
Do you think he would travel to do it or would I need to get the bottom end down to him, logistically it will be pretty difficult as the car is in Preston just now and I live in Aberdeen. ( currently offshore in the Indian Ocean) looks like it could be easy enough to do. What do you think? Thanks for info.
Post 743531 by Redbrick on 2014-10-19 19:32:55
[QUOTE=Craigtange;743495]Do you think he would travel to do it or would I need to get the bottom end down to him, logistically it will be pretty difficult as the car is in Preston just now and I live in Aberdeen. ( currently offshore in the Indian Ocean) looks like it could be easy enough to do. What do you think? Thanks for info.[/QUOTE]
I know he does travel so make contact and ask the question.
Post 743562 by Craigtange on 2014-10-19 20:26:35
Sorry again guys, I assume I will have to get a reconditioned block or second hand one as my liner is cracked already. I think to replace a liner is silly money.
This is probably a silly question.
Post 743564 by stribo on 2014-10-19 20:40:54
[QUOTE=Craigtange;743562]Sorry again guys, I assume I will have to get a reconditioned block or second hand one as my liner is cracked already. I think to replace a liner is silly money.
This is probably a silly question.[/QUOTE]
Engines with split liners can be shimmed, and although Tim, or others won't guarantee them, the success rate is very good.
Post 743566 by claymore on 2014-10-19 20:42:55
[QUOTE=Craigtange;743562]Sorry again guys, I assume I will have to get a reconditioned block or second hand one as my liner is cracked already. I think to replace a liner is silly money.
This is probably a silly question.[/QUOTE]
If you read back, you will see that both Ettienne and myself had split liners and shimming them repaired them .
Post 743568 by Craigtange on 2014-10-19 20:51:59
Sorry again guys, I assume I will have to get a reconditioned block or second hand one as my liner is cracked already. I think to replace a liner is silly money.
This is probably a silly question.
Post 743570 by claymore on 2014-10-19 20:54:41
[QUOTE=Craigtange;743568]Sorry again guys, I assume I will have to get a reconditioned block or second hand one as my liner is cracked already. I think to replace a liner is silly money.
This is probably a silly question.[/QUOTE]
Was that post a mistake? if not, the answer is no, you don't need another block :)
Post 743573 by Craigtange on 2014-10-19 21:01:01
[QUOTE=claymore;743570]Was that post a mistake? if not, the answer is no, you don't need another block :)[/QUOTE]
Yeah sorry I posted twice ��
Post 743574 by Craigtange on 2014-10-19 21:05:03
Thanks very much for all the help guys, I will try and contact tim tomorrow. Glad there is a distant glow of light at the end of the tunnel :) I think I will get it shimmed and then re-mapped. Hopefully that will be the end of the problems for a while.
Post 743621 by Craigtange on 2014-10-20 09:29:38
[QUOTE=claymore;743566]If you read back, you will see that both Ettienne and myself had split liners and shimming them repaired them .[/QUOTE]
Hi there. Sorry 1 last question.
I haven't seen my block yet and where the crack is situated. I assume it is in the area where you put the shims. Would it still be ok to shim if the crack is somewhere other than this.
Thanks craig
Post 743660 by claymore on 2014-10-20 16:01:09
[QUOTE=Craigtange;743621]Hi there. Sorry 1 last question.
I haven't seen my block yet and where the crack is situated. I assume it is in the area where you put the shims. Would it still be ok to shim if the crack is somewhere other than this.
Thanks craig[/QUOTE]
they only ever split where you need to shim as it's a weak point.
Post 744110 by LeeT5 on 2014-10-22 19:46:03
Good luck getting hold of him!
Post 744113 by volvokid on 2014-10-22 19:51:06
[QUOTE=LeeT5;744110]Good luck getting hold of him![/QUOTE]
I felt like bringing you Into this post but it wasn't my place
Post 744116 by stribo on 2014-10-22 19:59:25
[QUOTE=LeeT5;744110]Good luck getting hold of him![/QUOTE]
Yeah, not an easy man to reach.
