Looks like JamesT5 is at it again, god knows why but I'm assuming this is aimed at our forum, which I don't understand as he has been given enough good advice but now seems to think he is way above this.......p.s. I ain't his friend so I can't read further than this
I can see it and I'm not his friend on FB. You don't have to assume, its obvious.
[QUOTE=LeeT5;754590]I can see it and I'm not his friend on FB. You don't have to assume, its obvious.[/QUOTE] but I like to read it, is it something about how poorly he writes it? or is that how cleverly he constructs it to anger as many as possible? I just can't make up my mind as to what his game really is?
i get bored of people jumping on his back as soon as he posts anything so can see where he's coming from. No idea about the thread being deleted tho as i don't even bother coming on here much now
[QUOTE=p fandango;754592]i get bored of people jumping on his back as soon as he posts anything so can see where he's coming from. No idea about the thread being deleted tho as i don't even bother coming on here much now[/QUOTE] looks like he is suspended at present, so things around here might be able to return to normal and without his silly comments we may see some of the regulars return I hope.
He's only done it so he can report us down to nobody caring here. I've just blocked him, hope he gets banned from here too. £££
I can't read it as he's blocked me on FB, can someone copy and paste it?
Sorry Santa about my potty typing. The blokes a fool. Basically whinging about the forum & cyber bully's that we are. Don't come back then, simples! If admin dont see him as a victim then what's his problem? He's going to get ridiculed when he posts the things he does.
What have I missed?
Here's the paragraph in question. Apologies if I'm not allowed to post it please delete, I think I'm ok as it mentions no one or the forum by name. "So certain web forum I've had issues with, has decided to delete a whole thread to cover up cyber bullying I've received on there, and this is after I've raised concerns with the website owner who seems completely uninterested in talking any sense. I won't name the website for legal reasons but some of you may know which one it is"
Unreal.
Of all the forums I've been on, the whinging and bickering on here is some of the most petty I've seen.
[QUOTE=Sweep;754606]Of all the forums I've been on, the whinging and bickering on here is some of the most petty I've seen.[/QUOTE] Definately for sure, I feel sorry for the admin team, must be a thankless job to police especially when it's stirred up. Without there financial input the forum would have closed, I have met and made good friends via the forum and have an increased social life due to it, something people forget when they use the forum to cause havoc. I've certainly had my share of issues but it's just a case of moving on and chilling out.
Pathetic
I never usually comment on these sort of things but what a nob jockey
[QUOTE=p fandango;754592]i get bored of people jumping on his back as soon as he posts anything so can see where he's coming from. No idea about the thread being deleted tho as i don't even bother coming on here much now[/QUOTE] But most of what he says is factually inaccurate, should we just let him give bad advice to others? and If you don't come on here often then you probably don't see all the crap that he posts, simply to get a reaction.
[QUOTE=LiamT4;754691]But most of what he says is factually inaccurate, should we just let him give bad advice to others? and If you don't come on here often then you probably don't see all the crap that he posts, simply to get a reaction.[/QUOTE] i've seen more than enough of his posts, but i've also read plenty from other "keyboard mechanics" who've no idea what there talking about who don't get jumped on like he did. Theirs a big difference between correcting his errors & picking fault for the fun of it
[QUOTE=p fandango;754693]i've seen more than enough of his posts, but i've also read plenty from other "keyboard mechanics" who've no idea what there talking about who don't get jumped on like he did. Theirs a big difference between correcting his errors & picking fault for the fun of it[/QUOTE] I've NEVER seen anyone on here give the amount of bad advice that he has. The fact that he will constantly ignore others advice, is what has caused the issues. If you think that he doesn't talk crap, just to try and get a reaction, then your original statement of "i don't even bother coming on here much now", is quite obvious. Put it this way, do you think it is correct to point out that he is giving bad advice?
[QUOTE=LiamT4;754695]I've NEVER seen anyone on here give the amount of bad advice that he has. The fact that he will constantly ignore others advice, is what has caused the issues. If you think that he doesn't talk crap, just to try and get a reaction, then you original statement of "i don't even bother coming on here much now", is quite obvious. Put it this way, do you think it is correct to point out that he is giving bad advice?[/QUOTE] as said, i've seen more than enough from him both here & on facebook. I do agree that some of his posts were obviously aimed to get a reaction, but he won because others lowered themselves down to his standards. Theirs nothing wrong with correcting people at all, its how its done that makes the difference
[QUOTE=p fandango;754696]as said, i've seen more than enough from him both here & on facebook. I do agree that some of his posts were obviously aimed to get a reaction, but he won because others lowered themselves down to his standards. Theirs nothing wrong with correcting people at all, its how its done that makes the difference[/QUOTE] So what should you do, when he keeps giving bad advice?
you can either keep correcting him, ignore him or just leave lol
[QUOTE=p fandango;754698]you can either keep correcting him, ignore him or just leave lol[/QUOTE] Ignoring him or leaving, is not going to help those who need advice though. Many people have just got fed up with his attitude that he knows best, when clearly he doesn't. I always say, if your going to say stupid things then be prepared to look stupid.
I agree with Liam, but unfortunately I feel he is too dim to understand how people feel about him. It may be better for the stake of forum harmony just take point from Pedro and not jump all over his threads and just point out where he is wrong, to give thread readers the "heads up" to the bad advise. But I'm sure he'll get booted in the end, if I was admin, I'd just think life is too short for the hassle and eject him to have a quiet life.
[QUOTE=LiamT4;754699]I always say, if your going to say stupid things then be prepared to look stupid.[/QUOTE]
i think he succeeded in that, & always came back for more (until he was banned). As i said, he managed in getting many others to go down to his standard so i think he won
I just feel lucky that when i joined there wasn't anyone giving out the bad advice he does, and if there had of been, i would have hoped that others would point it out.
[QUOTE=LiamT4;754703]I just feel lucky that when i joined there wasn't anyone giving out the bad advice he does, and if there had of been, i would have hoped that others would point it out.[/QUOTE] theirs been plenty of bad/wrong advice given out of the years. I have also tried many a time to contradict someone's advice as i think it was wrong, but not everyone is as willing to admit errors & will argue to the end of the earth as they think there right (thats part of the reason i don't come on here as much) i'm certainly not saying he was an expert, nor that he didn't deliberately post to wind people up. But not everyone is so innocent in how he was dealt with
[QUOTE=Ettienne;754700]I agree with Liam, but unfortunately I feel he is too dim to understand how people feel about him.[/QUOTE] To be fair to Liam I really don't think he's that dim, I'm sure he understands how people feel about him.
[QUOTE=p fandango;754704]theirs been plenty of bad/wrong advice given out of the years. I have also tried many a time to contradict someone's advice as i think it was wrong, but not everyone is as willing to admit errors & will argue to the end of the earth as they think there right (thats part of the reason i don't come on here as much) i'm certainly not saying he was an expert, nor that he didn't deliberately post to wind people up. But not everyone is so innocent in how he was dealt with[/QUOTE] As i have already said, i have never know anyone to give out the amount of poor advice that he has and i can remember a few tools that have been on here over the years.
[QUOTE=LiamT4;754707]As i have already said, i have never know anyone to give out the amount of poor advice that he has and i can remember a few tools that have been on here over the years.[/QUOTE] Oi, some of us are still here, eh Graham. ;)
Plenty of tossers still here though lol.
[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;754711]Plenty of tossers still here though lol.[/QUOTE] I 100% agree with you on that ;)
Its ironic because James is the one thats made all the those that jump down his throat look like fools.. [QUOTE=MoleT-5R;754594]without his silly comments we may see some of the regulars return I hope.[/QUOTE] You should try opening your eyes if you think its James thats causing people to leave.
[QUOTE=Saaamon;754714] You should try opening your eyes if you think its James thats causing people to leave.[/QUOTE] What do you think it is Simon ?
Frustration was a major factor for me cracking. He just doesn't listen & does everything his way.
Some of the threads in the last few months have been getting tedious tbh. I've stayed out of it as much as I can as I've had too much on and I honestly have better things to do than get involved. Yes James has provoked a lot of reaction but some of the reactions/replies have been more than a little ott and it really isn't necessary. Look at it as if you're a new member... For those with little knowledge of these cars, an oil change is something of an accomplishment but, after seeing the way seemingly (to those who don't think twice about general servicing) trivial maintenance gets flamed, wouldn't bother posting. Just look at some of the crap I've posted over the last few years, if I'd been jumped - on like that, I'd have gone off and helped start a new forum or something ;) It just doesn't make for a good image for the forum and it's members. Just my thoughts.
Try ignoring him then !!! Easy Peasy. Stop whinning about his posts and just don't respond if they bother you that much ! P Fandango is correct, it aint what he posts .... but how folk respond, if you don't like the original post just don't reply. A post with 1 response doesn't attract folk like one with 1000 does it ? So use YOUR BRAIN and don't reply if you don't like it. Personnally I find the replies more ridiculous than his postings.!!
[QUOTE=V70 Graham;754721]What do you think it is Simon ?[/QUOTE] The way certain people have responded to JamesT5 is completely unacceptable and constitutes bullying as far as I'm concerned. Many people on here have deliberatively gone out of their way to try and humiliate and undermine him. This is whats unbalancing the "harmonics" of the forum, its this minority who are viewed as being part of the inner circle which results in a lack of proper integration.
[QUOTE=p fandango;754696]as said, i've seen more than enough from him both here & on facebook. I do agree that some of his posts were obviously aimed to get a reaction, but he won because others lowered themselves down to his standards. Theirs nothing wrong with correcting people at all, its how its done that makes the difference[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ettienne;754700]I agree with Liam, but unfortunately I feel he is too dim to understand how people feel about him.
It may be better for the stake of forum harmony just take point from Pedro and not jump all over his threads and just point out where he is wrong, to give thread readers the "heads up" to the bad advise.
But I'm sure he'll get booted in the end, if I was admin, I'd just think life is too short for the hassle and eject him to have a quiet life.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=p fandango;754702]i think he succeeded in that, & always came back for more (until he was banned). As i said, he managed in getting many others to go down to his standard so i think he won
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[QUOTE=M-R-P;754730]Some of the threads in the last few months have been getting tedious tbh.
I've stayed out of it as much as I can as I've had too much on and I honestly have better things to do than get involved.
Yes James has provoked a lot of reaction but some of the reactions/replies have been more than a little ott and it really isn't necessary.
Look at it as if you're a new member... For those with little knowledge of these cars, an oil change is something of an accomplishment but, after seeing the way seemingly (to those who don't think twice about general servicing) trivial maintenance gets flamed, wouldn't bother posting. Just look at some of the crap I've posted over the last few years, if I'd been jumped - on like that, I'd have gone off and helped start a new forum or something ;)
It just doesn't make for a good image for the forum and it's members.
Just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=zoidberg;754732]Try ignoring him then !!! Easy Peasy.
Stop whinning about his posts and just don't respond if they bother you that much !
P Fandango is correct, it aint what he posts .... but how folk respond, if you don't like the original post just don't reply. A post with 1 response doesn't attract folk like one with 1000 does it ?
So use YOUR BRAIN and don't reply if you don't like it.
Personnally I find the replies more ridiculous than his postings.!![/QUOTE]
...Pretty much sums my thoughts.
Yes he may be trying to wind you up. Don't lower yourself.
He may think he's posting useful advice. Correct him politely when he's wrong.
I was always taught that when someone is shouting, arguing, trying to get a rise out of you, then you can never be in the wrong if you remain polite and calm. Eventually they will get the message. Or... the inability to get a rise out of you will piss them off so much that they will eventually get bored and ££££ off.
[QUOTE=Saaamon;754714]Its ironic because James is the one thats made all the those that jump down his throat look like fools.. You should try opening your eyes if you think its James thats causing people to leave.[/QUOTE] you may think that, but I don't see behaviour like his, as being in any way constructive for this forum
It's all well & good in being polite, then he'll go & argue the toss because his "specialist" said so. Ignoring him doesn't fair well for the forum does it? New members will think we're a right ignorant bunch. Most forums are dead nowerdays & I embrace most of the people I have met through my love of volvo's. I don't like attention seeking dimwits who throw all common sense just to get a rise. Personally I think the forum will benefit from him being banned, I've blocked him on facebook & life is good.... Breathe in........ & out........
Replying to him politely doesn't work, that's how I started off, but he always has to have the last word, or if it is proved completely that he was wrong, he just stops replying, but never actually admits he was wrong or apologises, just look at his antiroll bar bushes threads, In the original thread he was told that he should not have put grease on them, then 12 months later he starts another thread about how his bushes had worn out, in the end when it was explained why you should not grease arb bushes, he went all quiet on the thread. It get's very frustrating when someone has to correct just about every bit of technical information he posts, My thought about the people who are sort of defending him is that they might be the less technical members who don't actually see just how annoying and sometimes dangerous his posts are. I'm sure that some of the posts above are aimed at me, but I don't care, the forum is a much nicer place when he doesn't post, and if I see him post drivel I will jump on it.
Just a note on ignoring an individuals posts, I personally don't think a forum or those taking part in a forum should express that level of discrimination. (Especially where a potential danger could exist). A forum is a collaborative space, a bringing together of ideas, thoughts, etc where discussion will occur. This means that people post freely but inline with the "house rules" and others are free to reply also within the same constraits. In an ideal world, especially on a forum which utilises written communication, people would post using grammar and words to make a post sound positive. That's not the case, especially where a rush reply is done using a mobile device. Unfortunately misunderstanding is usually in the reading, someone may see a personal attack where the author hadn't intended, this can cause animosity when someone is accused of something which they hadn't intended. There are people which would prefer to share information with the public without any follow up questions, debate or having to explain themselves further. This is fine but a forum isn't the place for that, a blog would be better. Its ok to like forums and its ok to hate them but if anyone feels they are unable to cope with the collaborative nature of the forum, log out, go to somewhere like wordpress.com Either way, people should try to get on (at least initially), not necessarily assume a negative tone from someone's reply and try not to take things personally, especially where neither side actually know one another personally.
having sold him a car which i knew (& told him) all the faults & issues, & then to watch him go & replace everything else i know except how he is with advice & how he knows best. But instead of lowering myself to his level & falling for his games i left him too it
[QUOTE=claymore;754742]Replying to him politely doesn't work, that's how I started off, but he always has to have the last word, or if it is proved completely that he was wrong, he just stops replying, but never actually admits he was wrong or apologises, just look at his antiroll bar bushes threads, In the original thread he was told that he should not have put grease on them, then 12 months later he starts another thread about how his bushes had worn out, in the end when it was explained why you should not grease arb bushes, he went all quiet on the thread. It get's very frustrating when someone has to correct just about every bit of technical information he posts, [B] My thought about the people who are sort of defending him is that they might be the less technical members who don't actually see just how annoying and sometimes dangerous his posts are. I'm sure that some of the posts above are aimed at me, but I don't care, the forum is a much nicer place when he doesn't post, and if I see him post drivel I will jump on it.[/B][/QUOTE] I'm with you on that Colin 100%.
[QUOTE=claymore;754742]Replying to him politely doesn't work, that's how I started off, but he always has to have the last word, or if it is proved completely that he was wrong, he just stops replying, but never actually admits he was wrong or apologises, just look at his antiroll bar bushes threads, In the original thread he was told that he should not have put grease on them, then 12 months later he starts another thread about how his bushes had worn out, in the end when it was explained why you should not grease arb bushes, he went all quiet on the thread. It get's very frustrating when someone has to correct just about every bit of technical information he posts, My thought about the people who are sort of defending him is that they might be the less technical members who don't actually see just how annoying and sometimes dangerous his posts are. I'm sure that some of the posts above are aimed at me, but I don't care, the forum is a much nicer place when he doesn't post, and if I see him post drivel I will jump on it.[/QUOTE] That's pretty much spot on, many of times I've given him advice or tech information for him to either ignore me or no offence to mrp but when mrp has seconded what I've said or replyed later has thanked and praised him. I don't expect or want praise but manners is a must for me and James is extremely short of them and ignorant to certain people who have offered help to him no wonder so many are pissed off. A lot of us have been here a long time and want the forum to continue running to be a useful place, so it's very hard to stand back and be quiet when a dick like James is posting utter crap. One thing I will admit Is I find I'm on here less and less when he's around
[QUOTE=t5 pete;754761]That's pretty much spot on, many of times I've given him advice or tech information for him to either ignore me or no offence to mrp but when mrp has seconded what I've said or replyed later has thanked and praised him. I don't expect or want praise but manners is a must for me and James is extremely short of them and ignorant to certain people who have offered help to him no wonder so many are pissed off. A lot of us have been here a long time and want the forum to continue running to be a useful place, so it's very hard to stand back and be quiet when a dick like James is posting utter crap. One thing I will admit Is I find I'm on here less and less when he's around[/QUOTE] It wouldn't surprise me to wake up and see the forum forsale in the forsale section. I think it's taken as read that 80% of the main posters, who have / post technical info are disgruntled by jamestit5.
I'm usually laid back and take everyone at face value but James has even riled me a few times especially when he has posted something that looks like an obvious attempt to get a rise out of people and then try and play the victim, i think the point that pushed me over the edge was when he was on about suing a garage for work that he may of compromised due to his lack of knowledge, It was this attitude of people not taking responsibility for their own mistakes in modern society that really annoys me. I'm not technically gifted my self so I respect others opinions and sometimes do choose to go against them so long as I am confident in my research and understanding, however I always accept responsibility for any errors I have made in my decisions. I try to treat the people giving me a different point of view with respect and would not entirely dismiss there comments out of hand which I witnessed James do time and time again. I often found he had found 1 source for his information and would not compare contrasting views on a subject on their own merit but instead insist his single refernce point was correct despite him not entirely understanding the concept of the question he was asking, this was shown in his last thread about exhuast size to which there is a miriad of information at your finger tips using google even if the obvious reasons why you wouldnt want a 10" exhaust escapes you at 1st.
[QUOTE=ExternalError;754763].....exhuast size to which there is a miriad of information at your finger tips using google even if the obvious reasons why you wouldnt want a 10" exhaust escapes you at 1st.[/QUOTE]
So you don't like my latest mod then ?
[QUOTE=V70 Graham;754764]So you don't like my latest mod then ?
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Looks like you've lowered your car Graham :)
[QUOTE=V70 Graham;754764]So you don't like my latest mod then ?
[/QUOTE]
Are you applying the if you cant beat them deafen them approach to the bkv event this year
I have been reading this thread with great curiosity. I have not been a member of this forum very long but from what I have seen so far it would seem that there is a lot of politics on here that I have not seen elsewhere. Reading from the top to the bottom of the thread it would seem that there is a lot of talk of "getting a rise" out of people and from where I am sitting, it seems that this Jamest5 is still getting a reaction out of the people here. How did all of this start in the first place? Cheers, Jeremy
[QUOTE=Volvo_Mad;754793]I have been reading this thread with great curiosity. I have not been a member of this forum very long but from what I have seen so far it would seem that there is a lot of politics on here that I have not seen elsewhere. Reading from the top to the bottom of the thread it would seem that there is a lot of talk of "getting a rise" out of people and from where I am sitting, it seems that this Jamest5 is still getting a reaction out of the people here. How did all of this start in the first place? Cheers, Jeremy[/QUOTE] Just click on his name JamesT5 and search his started thread's if you really are bored and come to your own conclusions :) and yes I wish he had a different username
Briefly, he does silly incompetent repairs. People correct him and he argues too death that he is correct. Gets peoples backs up, which we take harshly and make our opinions felt. There is more to it but essentially people can come on the forum to maybe read a thread on how to fix there particular problem and seriously damage there car or worse make it unsafe. E.g damaged anti roll bar, by grinding into it, James's best fix liquid metal!!!! Not even going to mention the fiddling with the brakes (Jesus Christ) But as above have a read.
some people have got very selective memories (which is good coming from me, who has no memory). I totally agree with correcting any bad advice he gave, but there were many a thread/post deliberately starting off a troll war with him
[QUOTE=ExternalError;754767]Are you applying the if you cant beat them deafen them approach to the bkv event this year[/QUOTE] Well, he definitely can't beat them. :lol:
[QUOTE=p fandango;754801]some people have got very selective memories (which is good coming from me, who has no memory). I totally agree with correcting any bad advice he gave, but there were many a thread/post deliberately starting off a troll war with him[/QUOTE] I did say briefly, there is just too much lol.
[QUOTE=Ettienne;754803]I did say briefly, there is just too much lol.[/QUOTE] i was just making sure it was pointed out there were 2 sides to it ;)
[QUOTE=p fandango;754804]i was just making sure it was pointed out there were 2 sides to it ;)[/QUOTE] Definitely two sides to it, people haven't been the politest to jamest5 and his threads have been totally ruined. But I'd say it's 70 / 30 blame wise, but the comments and criticism we give in return doesn't go any further than him. Where as he could seriously injure someone or damage there car.
[QUOTE=Ettienne;754762]It wouldn't surprise me to wake up and see the forum forsale in the forsale section. [/QUOTE] Hahahahahhaha.......hahahahahahahha............I'd use ebay. [QUOTE=Jamest5r;754798]Just click on his name JamesT5 and search his started thread's if you really are bored and come to your own conclusions :) and yes I wish he had a different username[/QUOTE] You only have to ask if you want a change.
James break a lot gets my vote
[QUOTE=Nealevo;754813]James break a lot gets my vote[/QUOTE] Nob :)
[QUOTE=Jamest5r;754814]Nob :)[/QUOTE] Or that
[QUOTE=Nealevo;754817]Or that[/QUOTE] Touche :)
[QUOTE=Nealevo;754813]James break a lot gets my vote[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Jamest5r;754814]Nob :)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Nealevo;754817]Or that[/QUOTE] I'd go with the first one. ;)
I spotted a mention of bullying earlier, thats a laugh. Its hardly hateful abuse he's been receiving and as far as i'm concerned, an adult should be able to deal with simple words without being affected by it. Its just words, they can't hurt you lol
[QUOTE=LiamT4;754827]I spotted a mention of bullying earlier, thats a laugh. Its hardly hateful abuse he's been receiving and as far as i'm concerned, an adult should be able to deal with simple words without being affected by it. Its just words, they can't hurt you lol[/QUOTE] Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others.
[QUOTE=Santa;754832]Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others.[/QUOTE] Thank you Samuel Johnson lol
[QUOTE=Ettienne;754833]Thank you Samuel Johnson lol[/QUOTE] Samuel Johnson.......was he a dyslexic with an F in English Lit as well?
[QUOTE=Santa;754832]Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively dominate others.[/QUOTE] I've not seen any of that and will say that if someone thinks that he has been bullied, then they must have lived a sheltered life. Words cannot hurt you..........unless they are stamped on the bottom of a brick maybe.
First English dictionary, amongst other things
TBH, this thread is probably his wet dream, we're all talking about him, and having disagreements about him, and he's not even here. Maybe time to draw a line under it before his head explodes. (Remember, he'll be able to read this thread once his suspension's up)
[QUOTE=stribo;754843]TBH, this thread is probably his wet dream, we're all talking about him, and having disagreements about him, and he's not even here. Maybe time to draw a line under it before his head explodes. (Remember, he'll be able to read this thread once his suspensions up)[/QUOTE] Oh dear he will take all of us to court now
[QUOTE=stribo;754843]TBH, this thread is probably his wet dream, we're all talking about him, and having disagreements about him, and he's not even here. Maybe time to draw a line under it before his head explodes. (Remember, he'll be able to read this thread once his suspension's up)[/QUOTE] he's probably been popping in has a guest , just to see how we're getting along with out him
[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;754864]he's probably been popping in has a guest , just to see how we're getting along with out him[/QUOTE] exactly, he's also commented on getting access while suspended, previously (in a discussion about Tony T5 or Tony the Tiger, whatever) said it before but will say it again - life's too short for this type of stuff
[QUOTE=LiamT4;754703]I just feel lucky that when i joined there wasn't anyone giving out the bad advice he does, and if there had of been, i would have hoped that others would point it out.[/QUOTE] You did tell me to go for an S40 ;-)
[QUOTE=Haizum74;757556]You did tell me to go for an S40 ;-)[/QUOTE] You learn from your mistakes..........