My visit to a 'Breakers' Yard....

Post 760455 by JamesT5 on 2015-02-21 20:20:35

I'm quite shocked at what gets put in the scrap heap after a visit to a breakers yard the other day. I can understand that a car involved in a major collision resulting in substantial structural damage would warrant being written off but some of the stuff I saw is just madness. They told me a that they had a '14' plate BMW 1 series in that was a scrap car just because the engine got flooded, yet the insurance company wouldn't let the car be repaired and resold. What really got me is the Volvo's that were in there, all of them I saw were early P2 models (note, no late P2's!) apart from one Saffron C70 P1. They hadn't been 'crashed', just seemingly scrapped for no reason because aside from the odd scratch and scrape, all of them were seemingly in reasonable condition (or at least they were when they were brought in). I though this was a total waste of what would have been excellent projects or easy repairs yet people just break cars and scrap them for nothing. What a waste and a sad sight - gets on my nerves!

Post 760458 by stephenevans99 on 2015-02-21 20:30:20

Worth more in parts sadly & these guys are there to make money. I have a cousin who buys early Imprezzas and breaks them regardless of condition....same scenario

Post 760459 by JamesT5 on 2015-02-21 20:31:45

[QUOTE=stephenevans99;760458]Worth more in parts sadly & these guys are there to make money. I have a cousin who buys early Imprezzas and breaks them regardless of condition....same scenario[/QUOTE] But some people just break cars for stupid things like a worn clutch or something. They're nuts!

Post 760461 by p fandango on 2015-02-21 20:33:50

[QUOTE=JamesT5;760459]But some people just break cars for stupid things like a worn clutch or something. They're nuts![/QUOTE] like i was going to do with Bonny lol, why spend so much to get a clutch done when i can (& did) get a new car for cheaper

Post 760462 by JamesT5 on 2015-02-21 20:39:38

[QUOTE=p fandango;760461]like i was going to do with Bonny lol, why spend so much to get a clutch done when i can (& did) get a new car for cheaper[/QUOTE] You'd have scrapped a good car Duane (and I've proved it!). Just goes to show how many decent cars are getting condemned before their time.

Post 760464 by p fandango on 2015-02-21 20:50:31

[QUOTE=JamesT5;760462]You'd have scrapped a good car Duane (and I've proved it!). Just goes to show how many decent cars are getting condemned before their time.[/QUOTE] my dailys are always used & treated as work horses, a good car or not is irrelevant. It made better economic sense to get the Messerschmitt

Post 760465 by MoleT-5R on 2015-02-21 20:51:56

Your V70 and S60 should have both been there years ago, but your hell bent on keeping them on the road and good luck to you, most of us would cut our losses and scrapped them both or broken them to get a few quid back and be driving something tidy or worth saving.....

Post 760468 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-21 20:56:57

It's just a sad fact of the motoring world. Something going wrong like a clutch wearing out etc is (for some) an excuse to just get a new car :). I too hate walking around scrapyards, just find too many honeys lost for ever :( but for some it doesn't make sense to carry on, money pits and all that.

Post 760470 by JamesT5 on 2015-02-21 20:57:45

[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;760465]Your V70 and S60 should have both been there years ago, but your hell bent on keeping them on the road and good luck to you, most of us would cut our losses and scrapped them both or broken them to get a few quid back and be driving something tidy or worth saving.....[/QUOTE] 2 cars that are still running and driveable so scrapping them would evidently have been the wrong decision.

Post 760471 by MIKESC70T5 on 2015-02-21 21:00:20

[QUOTE=p fandango;760461]like i was going to do with Bonny lol, why spend so much to get a clutch done when i can (& did) get a new car for cheaper[/QUOTE] Some Numpty bought Bonny off you lol.

Post 760472 by JamesT5 on 2015-02-21 21:05:21

[QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;760471]Some Numpty bought Bonny off you lol.[/QUOTE] A car that's still running an passed the MOT with no Advisory notices.... and is saving me £200 a month on fuel...

Post 760474 by MoleT-5R on 2015-02-21 21:19:02

[QUOTE=JamesT5;760470]2 cars that are still running and driveable so scrapping them would evidently have been the wrong decision.[/QUOTE] yet you've spent a fortune on keeping that v70 alive, not worth it in my eyes for a car with no residual value at all and ok the s60 may save you some fuel money, so save it up and buy a tidy volvo

Post 760475 by JamesT5 on 2015-02-21 21:21:45

[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;760474]yet you've spent a fortune on keeping that v70 alive, not worth it in my eyes for a car with no residual value at all and ok the s60 may save you some fuel money, so save it up and buy a tidy volvo[/QUOTE] The V70 is a project, no different to anyone elses. Now I do most of my own car repairs, I save even more money.

Post 760477 by MoleT-5R on 2015-02-21 21:33:40

[QUOTE=JamesT5;760475]The V70 is a project, no different to anyone elses. Now I do most of my own car repairs, I save even more money.[/QUOTE] you just don't get it do you, most peoples projects are something interesting or worth saving in the first place

Post 760478 by claymore on 2015-02-21 21:36:22

[QUOTE=JamesT5;760475]The V70 is a project, no different to anyone elses. Now I do most of my own car repairs, I save even more money.[/QUOTE] Like having to fit new arb bushes after just a year, that's real money saving :)

Post 760479 by claymore on 2015-02-21 21:37:16

Jamse's project is to try and get his T5 to standard hp. :D

Post 760480 by claymore on 2015-02-21 21:39:24

When you put a replacement wing on the front of your V70, did you buy a new one or did you get one from a car being broken?

Post 760487 by jamesy12345 on 2015-02-21 21:53:10

[QUOTE=claymore;760479]Jamse's project is to try and get his T5 to standard hp. :D[/QUOTE] :lol: me also with my Renault - 160 hp here we come!!

Post 760494 by MoleT-5R on 2015-02-21 22:07:58

[QUOTE=jamesy12345;760487]:lol: me also with my Renault - 160 hp here we come!![/QUOTE] not many of them left I bet

Post 760495 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-21 22:09:20

Only Renault worth saving :hidesbehi

Post 760499 by JamesT5 on 2015-02-21 22:18:56

[QUOTE=MoleT-5R;760477]you just don't get it do you, most peoples projects are something interesting or worth saving in the first place[/QUOTE] That statement is subjective, it depends on what each individual wants to do and what they consider is worth saving.

Post 760500 by jamesy12345 on 2015-02-21 22:20:28

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760495]Only Renault worth saving :hidesbehi[/QUOTE] hehe...one word...Alfa

Post 760501 by MoleT-5R on 2015-02-21 22:21:18

[QUOTE=JamesT5;760499]That statement is subjective, it depends on what each individual wants to do and what they consider is worth saving.[/QUOTE] and we all know what is not worth saving......

Post 760504 by dant5r on 2015-02-21 22:34:28

Sorry, but a diesel s60 & a P2 v70 t5 are not and will never be classic cars worth saving, that is why you see them in they natural habitat IN THE SCRAP YARD.

Post 760505 by JUDGENINJA on 2015-02-21 22:36:23

[QUOTE=dant5r;760504]Sorry, but a diesel s60 & a P2 v70 t5 are not and will never be classic cars worth saving, that is why you see them in they natural habitat IN THE SCRAP YARD.[/QUOTE] Neither was a 360 and now they have a cult following... I guarantee when they're 20-30 year old they'll be loved just as much.

Post 760506 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-21 22:37:27

[QUOTE=jamesy12345;760500]hehe...one word...Alfa[/QUOTE] Worth saving? Yep I know :P

Post 760507 by foammanmark on 2015-02-21 22:39:07

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760506]Worth saving? Yep I know :P[/QUOTE] Fill me in, I'm missing something here, but as an Alfa lover this caught my eye.

Post 760510 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-21 22:49:17

[QUOTE=foammanmark;760507]Fill me in, I'm missing something here, but as an Alfa lover this caught my eye.[/QUOTE] Bought my 166 in March after a fling with a GTV. It died on the 5th day of ownership, alternator started grumbling and a brake pipe exploded but as I don't deal with such things too (especially when so soon into ownership) well I just got in a pussyfit and shoved it back. Its sudden death is why I got the V70 back on the road... 2001 166 3.0 V6 Sportronic. 83k, every single piece of paperwork from new (including all bills of sale when it's changed hands, receipts for tyres MOTs etc). Factory lowered, factory Zender bodykit, factory upgraded Teledial wheels. Just an absolute corker, just don't know what to do with it :P 14-03-14 001 by AcidicDavey, on Flickr 14-03-14 002 by AcidicDavey, on Flickr

Post 760511 by foammanmark on 2015-02-21 22:51:21

See you in a few minutes, I'm off to the bathroom. That is beautiful...............

Post 760512 by foammanmark on 2015-02-21 22:55:01

Seriously, I can get that car sorted. Talk to me cos I want it......................

Post 760513 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-21 22:56:45

Haha, that's why I bought it! My GTV was a 2.0 twin spark and I wanted a Busso obviously, kept checking daily online for Alfa V6s and this just kept winking at me. GTV sold so bought this the next day. Woops...

Post 760515 by foammanmark on 2015-02-21 22:58:37

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760513]Haha, that's why I bought it! My GTV was a 2.0 twin spark and I wanted a Busso obviously, kept checking daily online for Alfa V6s and this just kept winking at me. GTV sold so bought this the next day. Woops...[/QUOTE] Alfa Spare Parts near me would sort your car well and cheaply. I'm after a GTV, preferably a Busso but would settle for a nice 2.0.

Post 760516 by stribo on 2015-02-21 23:16:38

Post 760518 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-21 23:25:07

I want it for myself. I can repair the alternator, it's just a lack of wanting to as I can only run one car at a time. It will need a new battery, full engine service (belts and all!) plus it is scruffy in places etc. Out of all the cars I've bought it was the first I was initially happy with (I usually regret purchases straight off!). I love the car, just what to do with it :( It is probably the nicest pre facelift 166 I've seen, colour and spec etc all work together perfectly. GTVs Superb. Lovely to drive, the TS engine is a peach, just not torquey enough but it is just so incredibly smooth. Handles brilliant, steering is precise and the back turns in lovely, as if there's a degree or two of rear wheel steering. Plus, a ph2 can look like this inside :) Interior 001 by AcidicDavey, on Flickr We haven't gone off topic yet btw, Alfas belong in breakers yards according to the critics and the 'un-infected' lol

Post 760519 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-21 23:44:13

[QUOTE=stribo;760516]Sorry mate, I know that's your pride and joy, and all that, but I think it's one of the ugliest Alfas ever, to me it's just piggy eyed.[/QUOTE] I know what you mean, the grill looks like its snout ;) But that's the thing with heavily styled designs, you either love em or hate them. One can't think of a Volvo as 'ugly' as they didn't used to be very daring in the styling department whereas a car like the 166, read previous sentence :)

Post 760527 by LeeT5 on 2015-02-22 07:47:26

[QUOTE=JamesT5;760455]I'm quite shocked at what gets put in the scrap heap after a visit to a breakers yard the other day. I can understand that a car involved in a major collision resulting in substantial structural damage would warrant being written off but some of the stuff I saw is just madness. They told me a that they had a '14' plate BMW 1 series in that was a scrap car just because the engine got flooded, yet the insurance company wouldn't let the car be repaired and resold. What really got me is the Volvo's that were in there, all of them I saw were early P2 models (note, no late P2's!) apart from one Saffron C70 P1. They hadn't been 'crashed', just seemingly scrapped for no reason because aside from the odd scratch and scrape, all of them were seemingly in reasonable condition (or at least they were when they were brought in). I though this was a total waste of what would have been excellent projects or easy repairs yet people just break cars and scrap them for nothing. What a waste and a sad sight - gets on my nerves![/QUOTE] There's very good reason for that. You need to understand James that urban flood water carries all sorts of diseases including Cholera and Typhoid and rural flood water carries Herbicides, Pesticides and Farm waste including animal poo and associated diseases. So as you can see, there's very good reason why the insurance company would not allow the car to be repaired. It has nothing to do with whether there's any structural damage. Besides, it would most probably be uneconomical because of the amount of damage to trim and the 30+ ECU's and Modules all over the car. You might think you could save it, but you couldn't possibly afford it - otherwise you'd just buy a new 14 plate BMW!! Also, how the hell did you manage to drive your car away from the scrapyard? Surely that would have been or rather, should have been, weighed in immediately!? Just think of the readies you'll get :saythat:

Post 760528 by S70T5Chris on 2015-02-22 07:50:10

[QUOTE=JamesT5;760472]A car that's still running an passed the MOT with no Advisory notices.... and is saving me £200 a month on fuel...[/QUOTE] Bloody hell, how many miles do you do?!

Post 760534 by claymore on 2015-02-22 09:49:20

I would love that 14 plate bmw shell, just imagine what old school running gear you could put into it, perhaps everything out of a 940 :)

Post 760535 by Shinsplintz 101 on 2015-02-22 10:01:04

I'd love to reply to this thread, make a salient point that would get the OP to understand the economic value of breaking cars vs the emotional claptrap of saving uneconomical sheds on wheels. However....I can be bothered.

Post 760540 by Santa on 2015-02-22 10:27:26

Post 760546 by Santa on 2015-02-22 10:45:43

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760510]Bought my 166 in March after a fling with a GTV. It died on the 5th day of ownership, alternator started grumbling and a brake pipe exploded but as I don't deal with such things too (especially when so soon into ownership) well I just got in a pussyfit and shoved it back. Its sudden death is why I got the V70 back on the road... 2001 166 3.0 V6 Sportronic. 83k, every single piece of paperwork from new (including all bills of sale when it's changed hands, receipts for tyres MOTs etc). Factory lowered, factory Zender bodykit, factory upgraded Teledial wheels. Just an absolute corker, just don't know what to do with it :P 14-03-14 001 by AcidicDavey, on Flickr 14-03-14 002 by AcidicDavey, on Flickr[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=stribo;760516]Sorry mate, I know that's your pride and joy, and all that, but I think it's one of the ugliest Alfas ever, to me it's just piggy eyed.[/QUOTE] That is a very nice looking Alfa 166.......wasn't my favourite looking Alfa but that is a nice 166. [QUOTE=Shinsplintz 101;760535]I'd love to reply to this thread, make a salient point that would get the OP to understand the economic value of breaking cars vs the emotional claptrap of saving uneconomical sheds on wheels. However....I can be bothered.[/QUOTE] Go on then, I will. As some may know, I also own a Passat CC, I use it for my daily mileage. It's just a 2.0 TDi, 140 bhp, cloth seats. I quite like the car but I recently poisoned it with Unleaded and then drove 220 miles (5-6 hours 50/50 mix). Obviously gutted when I realised and even more so when Andy said it could cost £6k to fix. (Which is about what the car is worth). Obviously I wouldn't be looking to spend as much as the car is worth to repair something, especially as its likely something else might fail due to age/wear......I'd just put £6k towards a new car, making the current one a scrapper. Being a VW it is likely it would become cool one day (B5 estates appear to be getting there) but in the here and now the cars a tool, like my favourite screwdriver. Cars are now easily accessible, pretty decent value when you consider what goes into one but parts are expensive and so is labour. Repairs which require lots of parts, complete strip downs, treatments and then putting back together in a way which will be "as from factory" and inline to maintain warranty will very likely be more expensive than mere replacement.

Post 760561 by JamesT5 on 2015-02-22 13:18:42

[QUOTE=LeeT5;760527]There's very good reason for that. You need to understand James that urban flood water carries all sorts of diseases including Cholera and Typhoid and rural flood water carries Herbicides, Pesticides and Farm waste including animal poo and associated diseases. So as you can see, there's very good reason why the insurance company would not allow the car to be repaired. It has nothing to do with whether there's any structural damage. Besides, it would most probably be uneconomical because of the amount of damage to trim and the 30+ ECU's and Modules all over the car. You might think you could save it, but you couldn't possibly afford it - otherwise you'd just buy a new 14 plate BMW!! [COLOR="#FF0000"]Also, how the hell did you manage to drive your car away from the scrapyard? Surely that would have been or rather, should have been, weighed in immediately!? Just think of the readies you'll get[/COLOR] :saythat:[/QUOTE] It (the S60) wasn't scrapped, the car was driveable and is even more driveable now. It passed the MOT with no Advisory notices, if the car was past it's best it would have at least failed the MOT and even that isn't a reason to scrap a car. It's like the Jaguar X-Type that my Landlord owns, it failed it's MOT on emissions but he let me loose on it and now I've fixed the problem, given it a service and fixed the faulty reversing lights. So was that car worth repairing..? Of course it was.

Post 760562 by JamesT5 on 2015-02-22 13:20:40

[QUOTE=S70T5Chris;760528]Bloody hell, how many miles do you do?![/QUOTE] About 70 miles a day. I pay my fuel account off once a month so I know what it costs to run each car and the D5 is saving me a fortune in fuel. I should have broken even by the Summer and then the car will have paid for itself including all the 'essential maintenance' I have done in it.

Post 760573 by stribo on 2015-02-22 16:54:57

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760518]I want it for myself. I can repair the alternator, it's just a lack of wanting to as I can only run one car at a time. It will need a new battery, full engine service (belts and all!) plus it is scruffy in places etc. Out of all the cars I've bought it was the first I was initially happy with (I usually regret purchases straight off!). I love the car, just what to do with it :( It is probably the nicest pre facelift 166 I've seen, colour and spec etc all work together perfectly. GTVs Superb. Lovely to drive, the TS engine is a peach, just not torquey enough but it is just so incredibly smooth. Handles brilliant, steering is precise and the back turns in lovely, as if there's a degree or two of rear wheel steering. Plus, a ph2 can look like this inside :) Interior 001 by AcidicDavey, on Flickr We haven't gone off topic yet btw, Alfas belong in breakers yards according to the critics and the 'un-infected' lol[/QUOTE] The interior more than makes up for the exterior. :D

Post 760578 by Doingitsideways on 2015-02-22 17:19:07

[QUOTE=stribo;760573]The interior more than makes up for the exterior. :D[/QUOTE] Lol! That isn't Dave's. It's not even a 166! ;)

Post 760594 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-22 20:37:51

Hehe, it's my old GTV :)

Post 760597 by foammanmark on 2015-02-22 20:50:16

[QUOTE=stribo;760516]Sorry mate, I know that's your pride and joy, and all that, but I think it's one of the ugliest Alfas ever, to me it's just piggy eyed.[/QUOTE] I don't normally like the 166, but this is the exception. The wheels and the stance make it look awesome to me.

Post 760639 by Gold 'N' Brown on 2015-02-22 23:28:38

[QUOTE=JamesT5;760561]So was that car worth repairing..? [/QUOTE] And the key word there is worth. Whether a car is worth saving is often an emotional decision. The majority of the driving public don't have an emotional tie to their cars, they are simply a tool, like a washing machine or a DVD player, or drill is. So most of the time scrapping a car is a simple financial decision, not an emotional one. Just because it's possible to save a car - and let's face it, you can pretty much save anything unless it's been cubed - doesn't mean it's worth it.

Post 760641 by Gold 'N' Brown on 2015-02-22 23:37:10

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760510] factory upgraded Teledial wheels. [/QUOTE] Slightly pedantic (and possibly wrong!) but I'm not sure that they are technically Teledial wheels. IIRC they are usually referred to as Sport alloys, but they don't actually seem to have a name going by the original AR accessories catalogue. That aside, the zender combo with that colour and the mushroom leather interior is one of the best. It's a beautiful example! And I think values have started to creep up now. [QUOTE=stribo;760516]Sorry mate, I know that's your pride and joy, and all that, but I think it's one of the ugliest Alfas ever, to me it's just piggy eyed.[/QUOTE] Ha, that's what makes them so special. I always think of the 166 as being like Marvin the depressed robot. They are an acquired taste, and personally I bloody love the shape. AR ruined them with the facelift, which basically gave it a boring blunt nose and ££££ wheels.

Post 760643 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-23 00:10:24

You're right GnB, well Supersports actually people seem to refer them as. They're still a teledial wheel though :P I wish I could agree that they're going up in value but sadly that really isn't the case :(. Interest in them seems high but there isn't the money to back it up yet ;) They'll have their day eventually, controversial designs end up collectible in the end. Looking up prices of 164s now, the ones left are starting to get noticed and are creeping up. A good friend of mine can't stand the sight of it, thinks it is as ugly as sin, personally I love the design, not ugly at all in my opinion, rather beautiful even. Just a real interesting design with loads of neat touches dotted everywhere. Low slung bonnet, muscular front arches, sculpted sides, the kicked up rear end, it's all exotic inspired. The biggest sin of any big saloon is being boring, you have to give it to Alfa, this certainly isn't boring. Ugly or beautiful? That's for anyone to decide for themselves. I do think that a standard 166 is a bit awkward looking (but still interesting ;) ), just this one as a 'package' works so god damn well! Anyway, I'm babbling, I should shut up and remember this is a Volvo forum :P Sorry guys.

Post 760644 by Gold 'N' Brown on 2015-02-23 01:04:32

Ah yes, Supersports. Brain fart. I thought plain old "Sport" didn't sound quite right when I typed it. I only occasionally look at 166s for sale, but it had seemed as if the prices were going up a bit. But then with so few about you can't really draw a solid conclusion. Sticking on the topic of whether a car is worth saving to someone, my 166 ended up in the hands of someone who only wanted the engine for their kit car, and the rest got scrapped, and I think that's criminal But they obviously saw no value in the ugly 166 except it's legendary engine.

Post 760684 by jamesy12345 on 2015-02-23 15:28:14

At least we are keeping on topic and talking about Alfa's & scrapyards....!

Post 760727 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-23 20:38:01

Precisely James, that's why I feel it appropriate to post in this one! :P The 'uninfected' don't get it :) Ironically, I've never actually seen a 166 in a breakers yard as there are so few left (about 700 taxed of all years) there's no point hanging onto the parts too long it seems, very sad :( As GnB says, many have been used for that fabulous V6 for projects. I'd love to see solid proof that they are going up in value but from my searches, yes there a few priced ambitiously but they seem to hang around and get relisted again and again or lowered. The facelifts seem to sell well mind. If they were worth more I'd probably be more inclined to get mine back on the road but as I've got another money pit it just sits there. It's my big red italian cupboard! Feck, going on and on like an old bore is making me want this car out there, again I only did 120 miles in it!

Post 760744 by Biff on 2015-02-23 21:50:27

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760727]Precisely James, that's why I feel it appropriate to post in this one! :P The 'uninfected' don't get it :) Ironically, I've never actually seen a 166 in a breakers yard as there are so few left (about 700 taxed of all years) there's no point hanging onto the parts too long it seems, very sad :( As GnB says, many have been used for that fabulous V6 for projects. I'd love to see solid proof that they are going up in value but from my searches, yes there a few priced ambitiously but they seem to hang around and get relisted again and again or lowered. The facelifts seem to sell well mind. If they were worth more I'd probably be more inclined to get mine back on the road but as I've got another money pit it just sits there. It's my big red italian cupboard! Feck, going on and on like an old bore is making me want this car out there, again I only did 120 miles in it![/QUOTE] If you do break it I'd like the wheels please.. ��

Post 760746 by foammanmark on 2015-02-23 22:01:36

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760643]You're right GnB, well Supersports actually people seem to refer them as. They're still a teledial wheel though :P I wish I could agree that they're going up in value but sadly that really isn't the case :(. Interest in them seems high but there isn't the money to back it up yet ;) They'll have their day eventually, controversial designs end up collectible in the end. Looking up prices of 164s now, the ones left are starting to get noticed and are creeping up. A good friend of mine can't stand the sight of it, thinks it is as ugly as sin, personally I love the design, not ugly at all in my opinion, rather beautiful even. Just a real interesting design with loads of neat touches dotted everywhere. Low slung bonnet, muscular front arches, sculpted sides, the kicked up rear end, it's all exotic inspired. The biggest sin of any big saloon is being boring, you have to give it to Alfa, this certainly isn't boring. Ugly or beautiful? That's for anyone to decide for themselves. I do think that a standard 166 is a bit awkward looking (but still interesting ;) ), just this one as a 'package' works so god damn well! Anyway, I'm babbling, I should shut up and remember this is a Volvo forum :P Sorry guys.[/QUOTE] These are my Supersports:- [ATTACH=CONFIG]28180[/ATTACH]

Post 760752 by jamesy12345 on 2015-02-23 22:27:19

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760727]Precisely James, that's why I feel it appropriate to post in this one! :P The 'uninfected' don't get it :)...[/QUOTE] I'm already infected with French stuff, dodgy wiring, tinny, suspect reliability...no more room in my heart for Alfa's...maybe I am not a true petrol head :)

Post 760753 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-23 22:30:35

[QUOTE=Biff;760744]If you do break it I'd like the wheels please.. ��[/QUOTE] If I was going to break it Biff I would have by now :P Mind they do look great on a V70! [ATTACH=CONFIG]28181[/ATTACH] V70 vs. 166 by AcidicDavey, on Flickr

Post 760754 by MoleT-5R on 2015-02-23 22:35:57

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760753]If I was going to break it Biff I would have by now :P Mind they do look great on a V70! [ATTACH=CONFIG]28181[/ATTACH] V70 vs. 166 by AcidicDavey, on Flickr[/QUOTE] ok laugh at me, but is that photoshopped or will they just bolt straight on, they are awesome....:)

Post 760755 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-23 22:38:54

That's the second photo 'shopped. They will bolt on though (if you bore out the centres to 65.1mm) as they're the same PCD.....and Biff knows it lol

Post 760766 by stribo on 2015-02-24 06:52:28

Those wheels suit the Volvo really well.

Post 760791 by Gold 'N' Brown on 2015-02-24 15:49:03

[QUOTE=jamesy12345;760752]I'm already infected with French stuff, dodgy wiring, tinny, suspect reliability...no more room in my heart for Alfa's...maybe I am not a true petrol head :)[/QUOTE] My 166 had build quality that would shame any Volvo of the same age. My V70 is just not in the same league. It was also perfectly reliable. Good solid cars.

Post 760825 by jamesy12345 on 2015-02-24 22:22:26

[QUOTE=Gold 'N' Brown;760791]My 166 had build quality that would shame any Volvo of the same age. My V70 is just not in the same league. It was also perfectly reliable. Good solid cars.[/QUOTE] Got to admit I've never owned one, they (Alfas in general) just don't attract me for whatever reason

Post 760828 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-24 22:36:29

Each to their own and all that eh. :) I tell you what James, if you're ever down my way and the 166 is on the road you can take it for a spin, I'll convert you yet ;) Sticking to one or two brands is probably sensible, I can't help but love a lot of cars from many many brands, very little badge snobbery here, judge every car for what it is. Some of the switches in the 166 are quite cheap but the rest of it seems screwed together very well, it still feels like a very premium motor, too posh for me if I'm honest. Build quality compared to a P80 Volvo is definitely higher but then it is a much newer design soo.... But then Alfa being Alfa it's not all perfect. Fabric rear wheel arch liners for refinement? Great, until it rains...

Post 760829 by Biff on 2015-02-24 22:39:11

Yeah they are a set of wheels I would love & reckon mine would pull off. My mate had a vectra GSi with the Alfa 18" 10 holes & it was awesome for a vectra! The comets have to go, I need more phat!

Post 760834 by AcidicDavey on 2015-02-24 22:50:35

Potential bargain!

Post 760836 by jamesy12345 on 2015-02-24 23:08:42

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760828]Each to their own and all that eh. :) I tell you what James, if you're ever down my way and the 166 is on the road you can take it for a spin, I'll convert you yet ;) Sticking to one or two brands is probably sensible, I can't help but love a lot of cars from many many brands, very little badge snobbery here, judge every car for what it is. Some of the switches in the 166 are quite cheap but the rest of it seems screwed together very well, it still feels like a very premium motor, too posh for me if I'm honest. Build quality compared to a P80 Volvo is definitely higher but then it is a much newer design soo.... But then Alfa being Alfa it's not all perfect. Fabric rear wheel arch liners for refinement? Great, until it rains...[/QUOTE] for all their perceived faults they seem to have a big following..must be something in it.. [QUOTE=AcidicDavey;760834]Potential bargain![/QUOTE] Just up the road from me, let me know if you win them ;)