Lower suspension arm steering limiter.

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Post 785937 by burgess on 2015-09-16 19:48:06

Lower suspension arm steering limiter. I ordered two, but they came without the pop rivets, so has anyone replaced these if so what size rivets and type did you use? The holes in the lugs are 4.5mm diameter so it's the length I'm after knowing. Or did you use an alternative fixing?

Post 785939 by foammanmark on 2015-09-16 20:21:38

I just use any nuts and bolts that will fit with no issues. Have you got the blue lock stops?

Post 785942 by Orca2 on 2015-09-16 20:29:03

Are these for a C or V70 ? On the V70 they bolt on . Not sure on The C

Post 785945 by foammanmark on 2015-09-16 20:34:14

[QUOTE=Orca2;785942]Are these for a C or V70 ? On the V70 they bolt on . Not sure on The C[/QUOTE] My p1 V and p1 C are the same.

Post 785947 by Orca2 on 2015-09-16 20:43:18

I will go and have a look at my C70 . Be back in a minute. Edit c70 2003 looks like rivets the suspension arm is quite different too ... The stops are those big blue wedge shaped ones

Post 785948 by AcidicDavey on 2015-09-16 20:47:31

Yeah, standard on P80 cars they are riveted. Don't have a clue about P2s etc!

Post 785952 by Doingitsideways on 2015-09-16 21:29:35

Back in your hole, Whaley boy. Your V70 is a P2, so completely different! ;)

Post 785954 by Orca2 on 2015-09-16 22:07:13

So it seems , the c70 is 2003 but is P1 . Whilst my 70 is 2002 and P2 Ps Whales dont live in holes ..... And I'm not really one.

Post 785955 by AcidicDavey on 2015-09-16 22:22:10

It's a P80, this is a P1 C70 ;) [ATTACH=CONFIG]29673[/ATTACH]

Post 785959 by Orca2 on 2015-09-16 23:04:00

Its confusing to a mere whale, the v70 2002 is a p 2 and the C70 is aP80 ? So the later c70's are P1 ? My c70 seems to be based on the 850 , whilst my V70 is an upgrade on the first generation V70 . To be honest I hardly even lift the bonnet on the C 70 it does tiny mileages , mostly mrs Orca drives it. Whereas the V70 does massive mileages, and I have been elbow deep in it many times,.. Enough times to know I would rather have had an 850.

Post 785960 by burgess on 2015-09-16 23:09:51

Wow thanks for the responses gents. foammanmark, Yes I obtained them from Parts Monster, Volvo genuine spare parts No. 8614258 and they arrived today. From their photo the stops are secured with hex headed bolts; in the Volvo pics their secured with rivets. Alloy rivets into steel corrosion will occur, hence my question regarding type, nickel/steel would be better; my thoughts were to keep with OEM spec, however, marine quality stainless steel bolts and lock-nuts would be more ideal. Orca2: C70 (I thought that I was posting on the C70 section).

Post 785961 by AcidicDavey on 2015-09-16 23:12:13

I'm just being a pedantic ££££££££ Orca :P P80 - 850, S70, V70 MK1, C70 MK1. P1, the focus based cars - S40 MK2, V50, C70 MK2, C30. It's a losing battle as everyone calls the first V70 a P1 when infact the P1 chassis didn't come out until 2004! I just sit in the corner and rock myself slowly insane while this huge miss use of Volvo chassis names goes on :P

Post 785963 by jamesy12345 on 2015-09-16 23:22:13

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;785961]I'm just being a pedantic ££££££££ Orca :P P80 - 850, S70, V70 MK1, C70 MK1. P1, the focus based cars - S40 MK2, V50, C70 MK2, C30. It's a losing battle as everyone calls the first V70 a P1 when infact the P1 chassis didn't come out until 2004! I just sit in the corner and rock myself slowly insane while this huge miss use of Volvo chassis names goes on :P[/QUOTE] I'm glad I've got an S70 so there is none of this confusing stuff

Post 785964 by Orca2 on 2015-09-16 23:24:41

Hehe, every day is a day at school Davey. It is a bit confusing ... So The P1 came out after what is often called the P2 ? Which is an update of the P80 ? Can anyone in Sweden count ? Ps Burgess you did post in the C70 section , I just didnt read the header... Bad whale!

Post 785965 by Doingitsideways on 2015-09-16 23:28:08

[QUOTE=jamesy12345;785963]I'm glad I've got an S70 so there is none of this confusing stuff[/QUOTE] Ah, but yours is an R... P1, P2, or P3? ;) No confusion with 400s either. Nothing would want to be tarred with that brush! :lol:

Post 785966 by Doingitsideways on 2015-09-16 23:31:11

[QUOTE=Orca2;785964]Hehe, every day is a day at school Davey. It is a bit confusing ... So The P1 came out after what is often called the P2 ? Which is an update of the P80 ? Can anyone in Sweden count ?[/QUOTE] No. Your V70 is on the P2 platform, same as the S60, a completely different animal to the P80s.

Post 785967 by Orca2 on 2015-09-16 23:36:20

I'm lorst, ... The s80 is the same as mine too though?

Post 785968 by AcidicDavey on 2015-09-16 23:45:12

You're not helping Steve :P Only one Phase of S70R unlike the P80 V70R where the were 3 specs over the years. Orca, everyone is lost. It's Ford's fault! P2 is the P80 replacement and P1 is something completely different. As P1 and P2 were out at the same time I'm guessing Ford felt it would be clever. P1 were the smaller cars; S40, V50 etc and P2 the larger; S60, S80 and V70. I think I am quite possibly the only person who cares lol

Post 785969 by Doingitsideways on 2015-09-17 00:06:38

[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;785968]You're not helping Steve :P Only one Phase of S70R unlike the P80 V70R where the were 3 specs over the years. Orca, everyone is lost. It's Ford's fault! P2 is the P80 replacement and P1 is something completely different. As P1 and P2 were out at the same time I'm guessing Ford felt it would be clever. P1 were the smaller cars; S40, V50 etc and P2 the larger; S60, S80 and V70. I think I am quite possibly the only person who cares lol[/QUOTE] Damn. I was trying to be a smart arse @ Jamesy's post. I forgot they only did one phase of S70R. All on lovely M4.4 :) Orca, the oracle has spoken!

Post 785970 by Orca2 on 2015-09-17 00:33:24

Thanks guys , my head hurts when I try to think, can I sit in the dark for a while?

Post 785976 by jamesy12345 on 2015-09-17 07:59:00

[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;785969]Damn. I was trying to be a smart arse @ Jamesy's post. I forgot they only did one phase of S70R. All on lovely M4.4 :) Orca, the oracle has spoken![/QUOTE] Aye what Davey said! [QUOTE=Orca2;785970]Thanks guys , my head hurts when I try to think, can I sit in the dark for a while?[/QUOTE] This is USDM but helps a little: http://www.ipdusa.com/techtips/10099/usa-market-volvo-models-and-chassis-by-year-p80-p1-p2-p3 Why are pirates called pirates btw? Cos they RRR

Post 785978 by Orca2 on 2015-09-17 08:15:48

A picture is worth a thousand words Jamesy. Thanks What is a pirates favourite country? Aaargentina

Post 786020 by burgess on 2015-09-17 21:55:34

Thanks once again gents for the interesting responses, back to my original question, the correct length of either the pop rivets or the bolts needed, so then I can quickly work on each wheel station once.

Post 786021 by AcidicDavey on 2015-09-17 21:58:23

You could measure the diameter of the holes on the lock stops and just get some bolts with nuts that fit?

Post 786066 by jdavis on 2015-09-18 11:15:23

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Post 786101 by burgess on 2015-09-18 21:12:54

Thanks jdavis, really great post, provides the relative information dimensions for the rivets -4x12.5mm. I've now got that site on my speed dial. AcidicDavey, Yeah, thanks already measured the diameter, but as I said it was the length that was an unknown. I've now jacked up the offside to gain access to the lower suspension arm, the steering limiter is missing, I drifted out the remnants of the original pop rivets. Thus I was then able to gain a meaningful measurements. I cannot believe that this was missed during MOT inspection back in April. Even more so, when one considers that the proprietor has been and one on the mechanics is a C70 owner. I've elected to use M4x30mm A2 stainless steel bolts, washers and M4 serrated flanged loc-nuts, better application than alloy rivets.

Post 786396 by burgess on 2015-09-21 16:23:07

Just received a DVD copy of the Volvo VADIS OEM factory workshop service and repair manual and it covers the C70 Coupe and Cabriolet 1998-2005 obtained from the states via ebay.com looks good and didn't cost loads o dosh.