The outside looks like this... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30127[/ATTACH] One or two bits to sort out... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30128[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30129[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30130[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30131[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30132[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30133[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30134[/ATTACH] Should buff out, no?
You love wasting money, but I did love my old R21T, in the words from Taken 'Good luck'
Holy crap, are you planning to restore that.?
Erm that's alot of work nothing some blue tack cannot sort tho. What's your plans for this j
I haven't seen one of those for years .nice motor in the day and quick too
Very cool, love those I saw one for sale last year was tempting
The plan is to do what it needs to make it safe/get it through an MOT (a proper one), then either continue on with it to make it look pretty or sell it....depending on whether my attention span holds out!! And money you say Neil! It owes me 500 quid atm
Peas 'n' rice, it's worse than I thought! What's the availability like for replacement panels, etc for these? They are a pretty cool and rare car, crack on :)
Good question can you still get new strut towers for them
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;794821]Peas 'n' rice, it's worse than I thought! What's the availability like for replacement panels, etc for these? They are a pretty cool and rare car, crack on :)[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=t5 pete;794822]Good question can you still get new strut towers for them[/QUOTE] Negative on the panels availability I'm afraid. they've probably all been used up (& now rusted to death too). Looks like a spot of cannibalism/parts hoarding has been going on... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30135[/ATTACH]
So the car came prepared
nice big bus but a bigger task brave man lol
[QUOTE=t5 pete;794827]So the car came prepared[/QUOTE] something like that...the car is now with a 21 owner/part time trader in Liverpool, he's doing the work up to MOT all this is far beyond my skills He's going to try and persuade the MOT tester to come & give some advice on what MUST be done
Saw a white R21 turbo on eBay recently, and thought of you, but I knew you wanted a Quadra. Drove a R18 turbo, back in the day, hateful car, no grip, and the steering was way too light, especially at 100 mph+
[QUOTE=stribo;794831]Saw a white R21 turbo on eBay recently, and thought of you, but I knew you wanted a Quadra. Drove a R18 turbo, back in the day, hateful car, no grip, and the steering was way too light, especially at 100 mph+[/QUOTE] I think I changed my mind looking at all that work :lol:
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;794819]The plan is to do what it needs to make it safe/get it through an MOT (a proper one), then either continue on with it to make it look pretty or sell it....depending on whether my attention span holds out!! And money you say Neil! It owes me 500 quid atm[/QUOTE] That's a classic and for £500 a bargain almost as good at the bx16v at £300, cost £100 for the mot. I've got 1/4 of the body work to do that you have. Couple plates in the boot and on inner wings and a bit around rear wheel arch, not terrible for a 26 yr old Citroen. How's the 4x4 work on these traditional 50/50 split? No coupling on rear diff
[QUOTE=Ettienne;794839]That's a classic and for £500 a bargain almost as good at the bx16v at £300, cost £100 for the mot. I've got 1/4 of the body work to do that you have. Couple plates in the boot and on inner wings and a bit around rear wheel arch, not terrible for a 26 yr old Citroen. How's the 4x4 work on these traditional 50/50 split? No coupling on rear diff[/QUOTE] Yeah I thought so for 500 quid. Came with a spare engine, box & prop plus the guy reckons that exhaust manifold is Inconel...jury is still out on that one! I very much doubt I can get that through an MOT for 100 pounds though....!! Will try ones best There's a video here that shows the set up somewhere, think it is this one: [video=youtube;8OGBNjzdt3k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OGBNjzdt3k[/video] Engine torque is split, via a centre differential, 65 per cent to the front wheels and 35 to the rear under optimum conditions. A viscous coupling senses any slippage between the front and rear wheels and transfers drive to those which have the most grip according to need. If conditions get really slippery, the driver can opt to pneumatically lock the rear differential, but then only first and reverse gears can be engaged. Also, with the diff lock engaged, the anti-lock braking system is switched out. It all worked in 1991, anyways..
Excellent! You can't beat an old French car, I've great memories (yes they're juvenile but then i was 19 at the time) of having a burn up driving my friends Renault 21 Turbo (in silver) and his other car a 405 Mi16, both handled so well and the 21 was much faster than the raw numbers suggested! I went on to buy a ZX volcane 1.9i followed by a ZX 16V (same engine as Mi16), but my friend inevitably pranged his 21 Turbo in a ditch, that was the end as it folded like paper... Can't wait to see your renovation!
Wow,a Quadra! They were rare even back when they were still in production I worked for a car front in the early 90's and the boss kept a white 21 turbo that we got in for himself,he loved it. He gave me a lift to pick up a 405 Le Mans that he'd bought at auction,he was gutted that I sat glued to his bumper all the way back along the North Circular lol I would have loved either of those cars at the time but they were still bucks! Be nice to see the your 21 back to it's original condition (-;
Cheers gents.....nice to hear your experiences...here it sits.... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30136[/ATTACH] I don't normally post reg plates but will do for this one so you can have a laugh at the coming MOT failures via MOT history :lol: //edit...advisory notes from a test in 2011: [I]*Offside Front Seat belt stitching slightly frayed (5.2.2b) *Nearside Front Suspension arm rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2) *Offside Front Suspension arm rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2) *Nearside Front Brake pipe slightly corroded (3.6.B.2c) *Offside Front Brake pipe slightly corroded (3.6.B.2c) *Nearside Front Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (2.4.G.1) *Offside Front Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (2.4.G.1) *Front coil spring corroded (2.4.C.1b) *Rear coil spring corroded (2.4.C.1b) *Nearside Rear Brake pipe slightly corroded (3.6.B.2c) *Nearside Rear Anti-roll bar rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2) *Offside Rear Anti-roll bar rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2) *o/s wiper *front and rear tyres worn on inner and outer edges *damage to o/s/r tyre wall *corrosion n/s/f sill/arch *welded repair n/s sill *welded repair n/s/r sill/inner arch *welded repair o/s sill/inner arch *unable to see o/s outer sill due to plastic cover [/I] ..which told me the sills were done already ;)
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;794845]Cheers gents.....nice to hear your experiences...here it sits.... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30136[/ATTACH] I don't normally post reg plates but will do for this one so you can have a laugh at the coming MOT failures via MOT history :lol: //edit...advisory notes from a test in 2011: [I]*Offside Front Seat belt stitching slightly frayed (5.2.2b) *Nearside Front Suspension arm rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2) *Offside Front Suspension arm rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2) *Nearside Front Brake pipe slightly corroded (3.6.B.2c) *Offside Front Brake pipe slightly corroded (3.6.B.2c) *Nearside Front Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (2.4.G.1) *Offside Front Suspension arm corroded but not seriously weakened (2.4.G.1) *Front coil spring corroded (2.4.C.1b) *Rear coil spring corroded (2.4.C.1b) *Nearside Rear Brake pipe slightly corroded (3.6.B.2c) *Nearside Rear Anti-roll bar rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2) *Offside Rear Anti-roll bar rubber bush deteriorated but not resulting in excessive movement (2.4.G.2) *o/s wiper *front and rear tyres worn on inner and outer edges *damage to o/s/r tyre wall *corrosion n/s/f sill/arch *welded repair n/s sill *welded repair n/s/r sill/inner arch *welded repair o/s sill/inner arch *unable to see o/s outer sill due to plastic cover [/I] ..which told me the sills were done already ;)[/QUOTE] We're gonna need a bigger hammer.
Oh man that is coooooool! Really want a 21Turbo, not sure how realistically practical it would be for a daily though..
Something about old french cars , when i was 17 i had a Renault 30TX V6 ..woul dlove another but never see them now Quadra is cool , hope it gets finished :) Pic of a R30 V6 incase anyone knows where there is one lol
[QUOTE=Sweep;794872]Oh man that is coooooool! Really want a 21Turbo, not sure how realistically practical it would be for a daily though..[/QUOTE] I'm going to try & find out if it can be made into a daily :D [QUOTE=The Flying Banana;794920]Something about old french cars , when i was 17 i had a Renault 30TX V6 ..woul dlove another but never see them now Quadra is cool , hope it gets finished :) Pic of a R30 V6 incase anyone knows where there is one lol[/QUOTE] I've never even seen one of those! But, a bit of Renault trivia, I think my R5 has a gearbox from a 30
Plan for MOT is end of next month/start of March btw!! Need to work out what to do with that branch off the manifold...must have been for an external wastegate. But there is an actuator on the turbo also?? [ATTACH=CONFIG]30139[/ATTACH]
No idea on the actuator and external wastegate arrangements - Although I'm impressed there are already shiny engine pieces ready to be fitted!
[QUOTE=kmb;794936]No idea on the actuator and external wastegate arrangements - Although I'm impressed there are already shiny engine pieces ready to be fitted![/QUOTE] Thank you sir, although all I have done so far is helped a guy clear what would otherwise be a scrap car of his garden :lol:
Surely that turbo's pointing the wrong way? Looks like the manifold is far too big also, is that even gonna fit in the bay without having to cut a hole in the inner wing?! Got a name for it yet? :lol:
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;794939]Surely that turbo's pointing the wrong way? Looks like the manifold is far too big also, is that even gonna fit in the bay without having to cut a hole in the inner wing?! Got a name for it yet? :lol:[/QUOTE] I was thinking that......got loads of holes in the wings though, no worries!! Down pipe for side exit (!) exhaust can be seen below so hope it ties-up?? [ATTACH=CONFIG]30140[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30141[/ATTACH] I don't think it's ever been fitted to the car tbh, we are looking at a man's broken dreams. I will offer him it back if I ever get it together... No name yet but thanks for the suggestions :lol:. Absolutely not "raft o'££££e mark 2"
..iiif you think I'm sexy & you want ma boaby.... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30311[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30312[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30314[/ATTACH] ..just because...oh dear [ATTACH=CONFIG]30313[/ATTACH] Judo chop! [ATTACH=CONFIG]30315[/ATTACH]
Holy ££££ Jamesy, you sure know how to buy them! I nearly bought that white one mentioned, these are my sort of cars. I look forward to seeing a nice clean MOT sheet ;)
[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;797036]Holy ££££ Jamesy, you sure know how to buy them!
I nearly bought that white one mentioned, these are my sort of cars.
I look forward to seeing a nice clean MOT sheet ;)[/QUOTE]
Pigs might fly...
great project there jamesy, there cant be many of these left, as i dont htink there was many on the road back in the 80s/90s, a couple of my mates used to work for renault then, when i worked for peugeot
Very nice. I'd love a Citroen cx gti. My mates dad one in the 80's, an orange one. It glided along and was so quiet.
On the plus side, that tyre has plenty of tread :lol: Nice to see some progress!
[QUOTE=850 T5s;797039]great project there jamesy, there cant be many of these left, as i dont htink there was many on the road back in the 80s/90s, a couple of my mates used to work for renault then, when i worked for peugeot[/QUOTE] not many left now fella as they are mainly rust buckets now, would you believe there is plenty of repair work been done on this car already...!! Inner wing from the above o/s/f turret: [ATTACH=CONFIG]30316[/ATTACH] Not unlike Frankenstein's ball bag [QUOTE=MIKESC70T5;797043]Very nice. I'd love a Citroen cx gti. My mates dad one in the 80's, an orange one. It glided along and was so quiet.[/QUOTE] There was an article about one of those in a recent PPC mag...nice & odd. Fetching good money now the CXs...http://www.artcurial.com/en/asp/fullcatalogue.asp?salelot=2651+++++190+&refno=10516976&image=3 [QUOTE=kmb;797049]On the plus side, that tyre has plenty of tread :lol: Nice to see some progress![/QUOTE] :lol: :lol: thanks, it was brand new[SIZE=1] in 1991[/SIZE]
Frankenstein's ball bag :lol: Nice welds there, clearly structurally sound!
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;797059]Frankenstein's ball bag :lol: Nice welds there, clearly structurally sound![/QUOTE] I guess I just christened the car then - FBB Structural bird ££££..! It will get ground back to see if it is actually fused or just sitting on top
'Frankenstein's ball bag' comment gave my first laugh of the day! :lol:
[QUOTE=kmb;797062]'Frankenstein's ball bag' comment gave my first laugh of the day! :lol:[/QUOTE]
you're on the same time zone as me - 09:30 first laugh...why so serious? I like to drag my GF out of bed, laughing, at 06:30 to make me breakfast
[QUOTE]Very nice. I'd love a Citroen cx gti. My mates dad one in the 80's, an orange one. It glided along and was so quiet. [QUOTE] My mate used to have a CX Turbo 2, bit of an oddball but he loved it, as with most of these cars can't remember when I last saw any CX
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;797064]I like to drag my GF out of bed, laughing, at 06:30 to make me breakfast [/QUOTE] Peas 'n' rice, if I tried that with Louise my ball bag would actually look like that inner wing!!
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;797064]you're on the same time zone as me - 09:30 first laugh...why so serious? I like to drag my GF out of bed, laughing, at 06:30 to make me breakfast [/QUOTE] Getting up at 7am French time for a 2h Australian Conf Call (8am my time is 6pm their side so only option) killed the start of my day, as it was a video call I couldn't even sneak off for other activities :( GF remained firmly in bed and quite immovable, no breakfast was had... School of hard knocks here you know :lol:
More from FBB...jacking point is now a jacking point.. [ATTACH=CONFIG]30361[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30362[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30363[/ATTACH]
Few more... arch before & after tidying up a previous repair by grinding weld flat/Gravitex'ing [ATTACH=CONFIG]30364[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30365[/ATTACH] Topside of the jacking point above [ATTACH=CONFIG]30367[/ATTACH] Other turret prior to repair [ATTACH=CONFIG]30368[/ATTACH]
Coming on now :)
YES :B_thumb:
nice bit of progress there jamesy
Excellent... and much less like Frankenstein's ball bag :lol:
[QUOTE=kmb;797534]Excellent... and much less like Frankenstein's ball bag :lol:[/QUOTE] The name's stuck now ;)
Embedded in my memory :eye-poppi
Good work so many of these projects just sit and do nothing
Cheers for comments fellas!! I got the car for around 500 quid, had a guess at how much I might be able to sell it on for (about 1500 with a ticket maybe) then started to price the work up with bodyshops.....as you might imagine no-one with VAT & overheads to pay was interested in doing this amount for work for even near a grand so I gets in touch with a guy who was into Renault 21's - and in another life he was into Volvo 480's as 'Nocturnal Developments' - he is doing the work as and when he can. I'll need to get the ticket as he isn't a trader now but going well so far. MOT guy has been given the heads up what we are doing & given some advice so hopefully should be back on the road at some point
Nocturnal Developments rings a bell
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;797548]Nocturnal Developments rings a bell[/QUOTE] Yes mate you can see some of his old posts on the 480 forum - username is Haz. He used to work with Scoff who built that 5 which did 10 sec/140+ mph quarter mile runs. Scoff now works for EFI parts who made the loom for my T2. I think I might send that story to Eastenders
Provisionally sold, unfinished, for 1500 quid...if it does sell for this, I will have made 250 quid on it - 550 quid purchase price, almost 300 quid transport costs, 400 quid parts. No labour as the guy doing it asked to buy it. First time in my life I will have made any money on a car Value according to Practical Classics price guide, not sure how up to date this is: [ATTACH=CONFIG]30376[/ATTACH] So if the guy finishes it off he can make a little bit also, plus there was a spare gearbox with it that is worth a ton at least Prices of T2's gone mad btw...no wonder it got stolen
Good result! It would've made a nice car, but I think you're right in walking away at this point. I had a 21 Savanna - the estate version, and loved it. Also had a Mk 1 CX GTi Turbo which was a mad mad car - fantastically comfortable and huge torque right from tickover.
[QUOTE=RollingThunder;797775]Good result! It would've made a nice car, but I think you're right in walking away at this point. I had a 21 Savanna - the estate version, and loved it. Also had a Mk 1 CX GTi Turbo which was a mad mad car - fantastically comfortable and huge torque right from tickover.[/QUOTE] I didn't plan it but maybe the guy doing the work did!! AFAIK he will continue the work til MOT. Fine for me nothing lost, maybe even a couple of hundred quid gained if all the parts sell. My work pal has just been given his notice so my timing is good for a change
Pity not to see you doing the work, but if the circumstances fit your needs, then a good result - Will he keep you posted with progress? Maybe you can stick some updates in here if he does :)
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;797777]I didn't plan it but maybe the guy doing the work did!! AFAIK he will continue the work til MOT. Fine for me nothing lost, maybe even a couple of hundred quid gained if all the parts sell. My work pal has just been given his notice so my timing is good for a change[/QUOTE] Ffs. Now you've bought the Tucson. Tempted fate, that one
[QUOTE=kmb;797789]Pity not to see you doing the work, but if the circumstances fit your needs, then a good result - Will he keep you posted with progress? Maybe you can stick some updates in here if he does :)[/QUOTE] Thanks fella, yes I will continue to update whatever the outcome is [QUOTE=Doingitsideways;797790]Ffs. Now you've bought the Tucson. Tempted fate, that one[/QUOTE] :lol: not pumped yet but yeah that is what usually buggers a job up. Just going to get (buy) my driving licence this week too
A bit more progress.... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30384[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30385[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30386[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30387[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30388[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30389[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30390[/ATTACH]
Was this your work or new owner (thinking back it may actually be the guy you hired who bought it)? Looks goods either way!
[QUOTE=kmb;798091]Was this your work or new owner (thinking back it may actually be the guy you hired who bought it)? Looks goods either way![/QUOTE] Cheers fella, it's not me it's a guy who stays near Liverpool, who does the work in his spare time - doing good so far! Not sure how the finish will all look after all this (hence FBB) but should get through the MOT, which was/is a goal for the project. For me certainly good enough to use him in the future if he's interested for other projects. I haven't asked him yet but I need some bodywork doing on the 5 & an EFI system installed once I get the inlet manifold fabricated....
A bit more progress [ATTACH=CONFIG]30409[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30410[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30411[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30412[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30413[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30414[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30415[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30416[/ATTACH]
cont'd [ATTACH=CONFIG]30417[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30418[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30419[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30420[/ATTACH]
Proper job, some nice work going on there, when's the MOT planned?
[QUOTE=kmb;798471]Proper job, some nice work going on there, when's the MOT planned?[/QUOTE] The plan was as soon as I get back, which has been delayed a bit due to a shutdown (which we completed flawlessly ;))...but since I've sold the car on I think the urgency has gone out of it. I think he's got big plans for this one & it might not end up quite standard so could be a bit yet
Good work! Be motable soon!
[QUOTE=Ettienne;798492]Good work! Be motable soon![/QUOTE]
It's getting there fella
//edit
oh fudge, buyer has pulled out...FBB is mine again. Seems that I prematurely deleted it from my garage
//edit edit
MOT planned 9th of April
Rear arch improving... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30459[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30460[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30461[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30462[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30463[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30464[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30465[/ATTACH]
Tale of two turrets almost done... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30467[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30468[/ATTACH]
A real effort, good job
I'm really impressed with how Frankenstein's ball bag is taking shape (that sounds so wrong), hate to say it... but I'm also slightly glad you'll be probably doing the work and creating the monster as we will definitely get to see things progress! Looks really good quality repair standard, could be a keeper afterwards?
[QUOTE=kmb;798830] could be a keeper afterwards?[/QUOTE] Unfortunately, Jamesy's boredom/mileage ratio is about 50 miles. :lol: Although, 50 miles in FBB is something to aspire to :)
[QUOTE=Ettienne;798829]A real effort, good job[/QUOTE] cheers fella there is some good work going on there....plan for MOT has been pulled forward a week to this weeked...!! [QUOTE=kmb;798830]I'm really impressed with how Frankenstein's ball bag is taking shape (that sounds so wrong), hate to say it... but I'm also slightly glad you'll be probably doing the work and creating the monster as we will definitely get to see things progress! Looks really good quality repair standard, could be a keeper afterwards?[/QUOTE] The guy has skills certainly, I'll get across to FBB by the end of the week to answer that hard question :) [QUOTE=Doingitsideways;798831]Unfortunately, Jamesy's boredom/mileage ratio is about 50 miles. :lol: Although, 50 miles in FBB is something to aspire to :)[/QUOTE] Short attention span!! Once around the goldfish bowl & that's it [ATTACH=CONFIG]30469[/ATTACH]
Fond memories of a mate and me taking one of these through France to Spain,hugely enjoyable drive even whilst he was attempting to outrun a French Traffic Motorcyclist!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE=Pliskin;798847]Fond memories of a mate and me taking one of these through France to Spain,hugely enjoyable drive even whilst he was attempting to outrun a French Traffic Motorcyclist!!!!!!!![/QUOTE] 'only' 175 hp but meant to be rapid...when working!
Updates...progress slowed down by paint reaction [ATTACH=CONFIG]30477[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30478[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30479[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30480[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30481[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30482[/ATTACH]
MOAR [ATTACH=CONFIG]30485[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30486[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30487[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30488[/ATTACH] Holey no-cow! Those velour seats look mighty comfortable. I'm supposed to be selling this but for sure will have second thoughts when sat in those :) Must. Think. With. Head. [video=youtube;ykNFfR5gW40]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykNFfR5gW40[/video]
fantastic, i cant believe he managed to get the interior in in the 5 mins between updates :hail:
[QUOTE=craigoodwood;798958]fantastic, i cant believe he managed to get the interior in in the 5 mins between updates :hail:[/QUOTE] :lol: I don't know about 5 minutes but the interior went from empty to full PDQ
Looking great paint reactions can be a total pain in the arse
[QUOTE=t5 pete;798987]Looking great paint reactions can be a total pain in the arse[/QUOTE] Aye it needed rubbing back then barcoat applying. Progressing again now: [ATTACH=CONFIG]30494[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30493[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30491[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30495[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30490[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30492[/ATTACH] [I] "lump sat alone in a boggy marsh, totally motionless except for her heart"[/I] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30496[/ATTACH] doh who buys this pish
Do they run a external gate standard looks a pretty neat set up
[QUOTE=t5 pete;798991]Do they run a external gate standard looks a pretty neat set up[/QUOTE] not standard set up Pete, previous owner wanting to run a tubular manifold with external WG and side exit exhaust...but it doesn't fit together...! so probably will go back to standard unless it can be made to work
I used to like 'the presidents of the united states of america'... sadly I still know all the lyrics to Lump 20 years later :lol: Shame about that Turbo Renault wonky sticker on the rear wing/arch :( Looking good!
[QUOTE=kmb;798995]I used to like 'the presidents of the united states of america'... sadly I still know all the lyrics to Lump 20 years later :lol: Shame about that Turbo Renault wonky sticker on the rear wing/arch :( Looking good![/QUOTE] Not many songs I can remember the lyrics to years after listening, but that is one of them. 'Peaches' another good one (tPotUSoA not the Stranglers :)) :lol: it must be progressing if the only thing wrong with it is stickers :)
i knew id seen this before somewhere :lol: http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=605009
[QUOTE=craigoodwood;799041]i knew id seen this before somewhere :lol: http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=605009[/QUOTE] :lol:
[QUOTE=craigoodwood;799041]i knew id seen this before somewhere :lol: http://www.barryboys.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=605009[/QUOTE] :lol: the front bumper looks like that one, with two round foglights....trying to get a standard one sorted! I saw it in the flesh today those seats are like big arm chairs. That downpipe needs cutting though - previous owner thought it all bolted up but it don't
i could flick through that forum for hours, i especially like the OP's avatar :lol:
[QUOTE=craigoodwood;799121]i could flick through that forum for hours, i especially like the OP's avatar :lol:[/QUOTE]
That avatar reminded me of this^^...I imagine that is what Shaq would do on sitting in the 21's comfy seats btw
A bit more progress, fancy tubular manifold off, on with the OE stuff. Almost. [ATTACH=CONFIG]30538[/ATTACH] Still nope so off with the T34 back to a T3, side exit exhaust off. [ATTACH=CONFIG]30542[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30539[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30540[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30541[/ATTACH] Better, closer, warmer. Hope that fan turns the correct way
More good progress, what will you do with all the custom parts that don't fit? Ebay? Did they have FMIC as standard? :biggrin:
[QUOTE=kmb;799386]More good progress, what will you do with all the custom parts that don't fit? Ebay? Did they have FMIC as standard? :biggrin:[/QUOTE] I'll sell them fella if possible to try & recoup some of the damage. Supposedly an Inconel manifold with a carbon steel flange :lol: might be better off weighing them in Looking on the net the standard intercooler appears to be front mount of a sort but tiny! It's not how big it is, it's what you do with it etc
Progress a bit slower now while sorting the pointy end out. A fair amount of the spares that came with the car didn't work/fit together, so a bit of time has been lost sourcing standard parts or modifying stuff to fit [ATTACH=CONFIG]30778[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30780[/ATTACH] Think the fuel has gone off...authentic early 1990's Renault fuel, real patina, got to be worth a few hundred quid on eBay [ATTACH=CONFIG]30779[/ATTACH]
Looks like frozen diesel, not surprised it won't run! Maybe it's like whiskey, just gets stronger with age :lol:
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;802077]Looks like frozen diesel, not surprised it won't run! Maybe it's like whiskey, just gets stronger with age :lol:[/QUOTE] must be like rocket fuel then....I'll increase the reserve on the auction!!
A car that runs on milk - This has to be worth a fortune! Some more good progress as I see the turbo got bolted on to the downpipe, will be running soon :)
[QUOTE=kmb;794841]Excellent! You can't beat an old French car, I've great memories (yes they're juvenile but then i was 19 at the time) of having a burn up driving my friends Renault 21 Turbo (in silver) and his other car a 405 Mi16, both handled so well and the 21 was much faster than the raw numbers suggested! I went on to buy a ZX volcane 1.9i followed by a ZX 16V (same engine as Mi16), but my friend inevitably pranged his 21 Turbo in a ditch, that was the end as it folded like paper... Can't wait to see your renovation![/QUOTE] My mrs had(chosen by me), AX GT, AX GT500, AX GTi and a ZX Volcane TD. We(I) loved them...........
[QUOTE=kmb;802085]A car that runs on milk - This has to be worth a fortune!
Some more good progress as I see the turbo got bolted on to the downpipe, will be running soon :)[/QUOTE]
it's getting there but not a great deal of running going on yet!!
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;794934]Plan for MOT is end of next month/start of March...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=foammanmark;802086]My mrs had(chosen by me), AX GT, AX GT500, AX GTi and a ZX Volcane TD. We(I) loved them...........[/QUOTE] I had an AX GTi... for less than a month, before a drink driver T boned me and wrecked it. At 100bhp it didn't really seem any quicker than my mate's 85bhp (I think) AX GT :lol:
[QUOTE=kmb;802104]I had an AX GTi... for less than a month, before a drink driver T boned me and wrecked it. At 100bhp it didn't really seem any quicker than my mate's 85bhp (I think) AX GT :lol:[/QUOTE] I think you're spot on with the performance of the GTi, as we thought the GT was just as quick if not even quicker. The GT500 was a nice car, half leather and other special edition bits.
[QUOTE=foammanmark;802105]I think you're spot on with the performance of the GTi, as we thought the GT was just as quick if not even quicker. The GT500 was a nice car, half leather and other special edition bits.[/QUOTE] I liked the AX's but 500...what? Kilograms?
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;802106]I liked the AX's but 500...what? Kilograms?[/QUOTE] 500 kgs and only 500 made.
i always remember the lad down the road having a ££££roen Visa with an Mi16 engine, that was nippy
i always remember the lad down the road having a ££££roen Visa with an Mi16 engine, that was nippyIn the 90's I delivered cars for a repair centre,remember a 205 gti Guttman coming in once for minor wing damage,I took it up the road to get round the back to the workshop,that thing was fecking unbelievable! Chatted to the owner,realising it wasn't normal,turns out it was lightened balanced 1.9 with high lift cam,throttle bodies,special suspension and brakes etc. Got excited about delivering it back,no,no,no says the owner I'll collect it,gutted! Who remembers the AX with twin carbs,what was that called?
Just looked on Wiki and it's mentions an AX Sport 1.3 twin carb which was then replaced by the GT.
Just looked on Wiki and it's mentions an AX Sport 1.3 twin carb which was then replaced by the GT.Thats the one,quite rare even back then
[QUOTE=Soulboy;802119]Thats the one,quite rare even back then[/QUOTE] I don't remember it tbh. 95bhp and white steel wheels like the 205 Rallye(again taken from Wiki-lol).
[QUOTE=foammanmark;802107]500 kgs and only 500 made.[/QUOTE] 500bhp one off homologation special :o
[QUOTE=kmb;802135]500bhp one off homologation special :o[/QUOTE] I was thinking that like the Rs500....1000 hp per tonne not bad at all
Foil thickness body panels would be somewhat scary with 1000bhp/tonne :lol:
Think that's the sort of figure Colin's gunning for :lol:
AX GT500 500kgs? Er, they're light but not that light! Unless you meant with the engine and seats removed!
[QUOTE=Gold 'N' Brown;802145]AX GT500 500kgs? Er, they're light but not that light! Unless you meant with the engine and seats removed![/QUOTE] Lol, yeah I was only messing with the weight. Think 600kg+ for a basic model even.
Google tells me 640 - 850kg for the AX range
ALmost there now....last of the interior in... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30842[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30844[/ATTACH] It's only tomato sauce kids, now cleaned off [ATTACH=CONFIG]30843[/ATTACH] Side skirts on, maybe not enough 'Turbo' stickers though [ATTACH=CONFIG]30845[/ATTACH] Front bumper with round fogs was a sought after item, apparently, swapped for OE one [ATTACH=CONFIG]30841[/ATTACH]
Excellent! Does it move under it's own steam? When's MOT time? :)
[QUOTE=kmb;802421]Excellent! Does it move under it's own steam? When's MOT time? :)[/QUOTE] yes it starts/runs/stops....need to change gearbox & diff oil prior to going far but just about ready for the MOT now, should be soon (!)
[QUOTE=stribo;794831]Saw a white R21 turbo on eBay recently, and thought of you, but I knew you wanted a Quadra. Drove a R18 turbo, back in the day, hateful car, no grip, and the steering was way too light, especially at 100 mph+[/QUOTE] my 1st ever car a R18 turbo
[QUOTE=T5frankie;802471]my 1st ever car a R18 turbo[/QUOTE] Bet you wish you still had it
Making progress...! MOT history of this vehicle Test date: 21 July 2016 Test Result: Fail Odometer reading: 93,665 miles MOT test number: 9024 5411 4039 Reason(s) for failure: Service brake: efficiency below requirements (3.7.B.7) Parking brake: efficiency below requirements (3.7.B.7) rear Brakes imbalanced across an axle Axle 2 (3.7.B.5b) nearside rear parking brake recording little or no effort (3.7.B.6a) offside rear parking brake recording little or no effort (3.7.B.6a) nearside rear Subframe mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded (2.4.A.3) rear Subframe mounting prescribed area is excessively corroded cross member (2.4.A.3) nearside rear Direction indicator has less than 50% of the light sources illuminating (1.4.A.2c) offside rear Direction indicator has less than 50% of the light sources illuminating (1.4.A.2c) Exhaust emissions carbon monoxide content excessive (7.3.B.1a) Exhaust emissions hydrocarbon content excessive (7.3.B.1b) Exhaust noise is clearly in excess of that emitted by a similar vehicle fitted with a standard silencer in average condition rear silencer omitted (7.1.4) Power steering pump leaking from a failed joint pump area (2.3.3b)
i didn't realise exhaust noise could be marked down as a fault
[QUOTE=p fandango;803273]i didn't realise exhaust noise could be marked down as a fault[/QUOTE] I don't think the tester liked French cars...exhaust noise is a fairly recent addition to the test AFAIK
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;803274]I don't think the tester liked French cars[/quote] that's understandable
exhaust noise is a fairly recent addition to the test AFAIKI might need to swap exhausts for the MOT as well now then lol
Nothing too awful... hopefully a good run up to temp will sort emissions, probably the braking imbalance thing could be the biggest headache if the corrosion can be treated and tidied up (sort of hidden) without welding?
I don't like the fact that exhaust noise is a discretionary item, they should standardise it and use a noise meter, like they do at race tracks. Yet another area where the system can be abused by a grumpy tester on a bad day, or just an absolute ££££ nugget.
[QUOTE=kmb;803280]Nothing too awful... hopefully a good run up to temp will sort emissions, probably the braking imbalance thing could be the biggest headache if the corrosion can be treated and tidied up (sort of hidden) without welding?[/QUOTE] Not much really compared to what it was...surprised about the emissions tbh - the car is a '91 so should be pre-cat test. My R5 with K-jet fuelling always flies through. Maybe the injectors are buggered. Most of the car is weld metal know so can't say I'm worried about repair of the subframe mounts/cross member [QUOTE=Gold 'N' Brown;803281]I don't like the fact that exhaust noise is a discretionary item, they should standardise it and use a noise meter, like they do at race tracks. Yet another area where the system can be abused by a grumpy tester on a bad day, or just an absolute ££££ nugget.[/QUOTE] Agree with that, it looks like the car has had a good going over by someone without a passion for rusty old French tat. Tbh though I don't mind - I'd rather someone gave it a proper check over than something was missed & surprises me later
Right then, brakes given a clean & handbrake mechanism lubricated... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30922[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30923[/ATTACH] A little bit more welding... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30924[/ATTACH] Another box in the side exhaust exhaust... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30925[/ATTACH] Power steering pump cleaned up & inspected any leaks, which there weren't... [ATTACH=CONFIG]30926[/ATTACH] Plus the rising rate fuel regulator replaced by OE one...Oh and a word with the tester about why OE smoked indicators aren't as bright as clear ones...and....ta daaa [ATTACH=CONFIG]30927[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]30928[/ATTACH]
Brilliant news, you've probably doubled the number of them on the UK roads :worship: What does it drive like?
[QUOTE=kmb;803612] What does it drive like?[/QUOTE] Wobbly would be my best guess :lol: Seriously though, good work Jamesy lad! Must do my Capri now. That started at weekend after ten years actually.
[QUOTE=kmb;803612]Brilliant news, you've probably doubled the number of them on the UK roads :worship: What does it drive like?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Doingitsideways;803615]Wobbly would be my best guess :lol: Seriously though, good work Jamesy lad! Must do my Capri now. That started at weekend after ten years actually.[/QUOTE] Aye what he said!! Cheers fellas. I'm back at work now like but it's not bad by all accounts. Not mint at all but good enough to use & improve with a bit more fettling. The goal was only to get it through an MOT for me. I need to craft a well worded Fleabay advert & pop it on there
Aforementioned Fleabay advert http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-21-Turbo-Quadra-/131897599898
Just saw a Renault 21 non-Turbo on the way into the office - Reminded me, did it sell Jamesy (can't click Ebay at work)?
[QUOTE=kmb;805066]Just saw a Renault 21 non-Turbo on the way into the office - Reminded me, did it sell Jamesy (can't click Ebay at work)?[/QUOTE] Relisted as buy it now or offers.
[QUOTE=kmb;805066]Just saw a Renault 21 non-Turbo on the way into the office - Reminded me, did it sell Jamesy (can't click Ebay at work)?[/QUOTE] I wish I couldn't get ebay at work [QUOTE=MoleT-5R;805068]Relisted as buy it now or offers.[/QUOTE] What Adrian said^^ cheers fella Very little interest tbh! I'm considering keeping it although the Black Pearl Necklace was meant to be my new reliable daily. There's a chap offered me 2k for the Quadra, the car owes me about 2200 altogether
Which is the black pearl necklace??
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;805071]Which is the black pearl necklace??[/QUOTE] The Scooby dooby doo http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/dto_garage.php?do=viewvehicle&v=2232 [ATTACH=CONFIG]31059[/ATTACH]
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;805072]The Scooby dooby doo http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/dto_garage.php?do=viewvehicle&v=2232 [ATTACH=CONFIG]31059[/ATTACH][/QUOTE] Name is nowhere near random enough for one of your motors :lol:
Damn...
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;805074]Name is nowhere near random enough for one of your moters :lol:[/QUOTE]
There's a story behind the name as usual but not one I'd write down (even in the NSFW section)
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;805075]Damn...
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:lol: my automatic reject offers thing is set to respectfully ignore anything below 3 pounds 57p and/or offers where the sell by date of the Monster Munch is not specified
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