S90, maybe T6 at some point
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Post 797100 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-23 20:32:03
As I'm ill and can't help myself, when I was offered an S90 I couldn't really say no!
So today, I took delivery of a '97 3.0 auto in various shades of green.
The seller very kindly drove it all the way from Portsmouth to Manchester for me and after washing all the salt off looked like this:
Long term plans are to maybe slot a T6 engine between the struts, but for now I have a bit of a to do list.
From an hour poking at things this afternoon, I have:
Seems to be running on 5 cylinders, hopefully just a lazy coil pack or two.
Rad fan doesn't work.
Overheated ATF, hopefully just a change of fluid.
Many suspension bushes.
Strut top mounts.
A few bits of interior trim, airvents/surround, speaker grille etc.
Front seats are very tired and driver's seat has started to tear, also won't move down properly.
Replace indicator stalk (came with car)
Sunroof only tilts.
Headlining sagging behind sunroof.
Elec aerial doesn't work.
Replace cracked headlight (came with car)
Repaint mismatched front wing, also paint front/rear bumper, driver's door, boot, bonnet... Someone's gone around the car with the mismatched rattlecan and painted a bit on each panel... Why... Just why??!!
That should keep me out of the pub for a while!
I think I'm going to do the Screwball rally in it later in the year, then take it off the road for hopefully the T6 conversion.
For now though, here's a couple of pics from when it met a couple of the others at Sideways Towers:
Post 797101 by jamesy12345 on 2016-02-23 21:03:50
You've got so many you'll have swaps soon :B_blite:
Post 797102 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-23 21:05:23
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;797101]You've got so many you'll have swaps soon :B_blite:[/QUOTE]
Already have.
Can I interest Sir in one of my selection of 460s? :lol:
Post 797107 by t5 pete on 2016-02-23 22:02:39
Awesome one of these with either t5 or t6 running a decent chunk of power would be great
Post 797112 by Dangerous Dave on 2016-02-23 23:08:37
Nice, looking forward to seeing the project unfold!!
Post 797113 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-23 23:20:04
[QUOTE=t5 pete;797107]Awesome one of these with either t5 or t6 running a decent chunk of power would be great[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dangerous Dave;797112]Nice, looking forward to seeing the project unfold!![/QUOTE]
Cheers :)
Just don't hold your breath lads! :lol:
Post 797218 by dionbullock on 2016-02-25 10:08:11
I've wondered myself how easy/difficult it would be to T6 one of these! Any been done in the UK that anyone knows about?
Post 797227 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-25 13:15:07
Not that I know of.
I know that there are issues with the steering collumn, also that the engine mount sits slap bang in the way of the standard manifold.
I guess time will tell :lol:
Post 797232 by martin_r_smith on 2016-02-25 15:56:11
why not just turbo the existing motor?
Post 797234 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-25 16:22:21
[QUOTE=martin_r_smith;797232]why not just turbo the existing motor?[/QUOTE]
Can be done with selective use of pistons, crank, exhaust valves (sodium filled), etc.
Plus, apparently the B6304 blocks don't react too well to boost. Presumably splitting liners, as I would have thought they'd be the same size as the 2.5 T5s.
The T6s are all 2.8 or 2.9
By the time I've done all that though, I may as well use a T6 lump.
Plus, I just happen to have an S80 T6 knocking about that I can rob the engine out of ;)
Post 797240 by t5 pete on 2016-02-25 19:57:52
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;797234]Can be done with selective use of pistons, crank, exhaust valves (sodium filled), etc.
Plus, apparently the B6304 blocks don't react too well to boost. Presumably splitting liners, as I would have thought they'd be the same size as the 2.5 T5s.
The T6s are all 2.8 or 2.9
By the time I've done all that though, I may as well use a T6 lump.
Plus, I just happen to have an S80 T6 knocking about that I can rob the engine out of ;)[/QUOTE]
There's no excuses then
Post 797241 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-25 20:14:53
[QUOTE=t5 pete;797240]There's no excuses then[/QUOTE]
Lol.
Just need to pry the keys out of my Dad's hands first! :lol:
I'll keep my eye out for something else for him to potter about in / crash / kurb the wheels / generally treat like ££££e even though it's not his car, a bit closer to the time I'll be looking to start the conversion.
Like I said, I'll hopefully be doing the Screwball Rally in it in September (week after York if memory serves) so won't be in any sort of position to start before then.
Post 797242 by t5 pete on 2016-02-25 20:25:09
It takes ages to collect the parts think I was collecting for around 2 yrs for the 240 before I actually made a start.
Post 797262 by AcidicDavey on 2016-02-25 22:44:07
££££ing hell Steve, you can't help yourself can you?! :P
Still, be an awesome motor if you go ahead with your plans, hope it happens, as Pete says you have no excuses!
Post 797268 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-25 23:02:34
[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;797262]££££ing hell Steve, you can't help yourself can you?! :P
Still, be an awesome motor if you go ahead with your plans, hope it happens, as Pete says you have no excuses![/QUOTE]
No, I really can't! :(
Seem to remember Jamesy having the same idea at one point.
He ended up facing the harsh realisation of sanity (briefly) and moved it on. His was in much better condition too!
Post 797279 by jamesy12345 on 2016-02-26 06:55:31
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;797268]No, I really can't! :(
Seem to remember Jamesy having the same idea at one point.
He ended up facing the harsh realisation of sanity (briefly) and moved it on. His was in much better condition too![/QUOTE]
My ideas don't match my skills/budget/time/real life!
Post 797280 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-26 08:27:14
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;797279]
My ideas don't match my skills/budget/time/real life![/QUOTE]
And mine do?!
:lol:
Post 797283 by MoleT-5R on 2016-02-26 09:23:18
looking forward to seeing this project unfold, well if it makes it back from the screwball it has to be a good car, good luck Steve...:)
Post 797285 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-26 09:31:22
Cheers Adrian.
The Screwball rules say that the car has to be purchased for less than £700, but after that you can spend what you like.
Gonna post up a thread about it, see if anyone fancys giving it a whirl.
God knows how much it's gonna cost to get even half way to being roadworthy.
I've honestly never heard suspension make so much clanging and rattling, from the front AND rear. Even my old 960 estate that was my previous workhorse was nowhere near as bad after three years of total and utter abuse!!
First thing's first though, found some coil packs to try. Gotta at least get the 6-pot singing before I go any further :)
Post 797290 by jamesy12345 on 2016-02-26 10:03:18
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;797285].....The Screwball rules say that the car has to be purchased for less than £700, but after that you can spend what you like.
Gonna post up a thread about it, see if anyone fancys giving it a whirl...[/QUOTE]
The quadra qualifies then assuming it ever gets back on the road!! But like I was saying odds on I'll be working then
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;797285]....
First thing's first though, found some coil packs to try. Gotta at least get the 6-pot singing before I go any further :)....[/QUOTE]
Noo..don't do it - I always fall into that trap - then get pissed off with the amount of work takes to get back to standard & lose interest
Post 797292 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-26 10:10:21
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;797290]
Noo..don't do it - I always fall into that trap - then get pissed off with the amount of work takes to get back to standard & lose interest[/QUOTE]
Lol.
Need it running at least half right though.
2400 miles is an awfully long way to be driving with at least one cylinder down!
Like I said to you when we spoke, would be great if you could do it too.
Takes a certain amount of insanity to do it :lol:
Post 797298 by jamesy12345 on 2016-02-26 10:34:51
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;797292]Lol.
Need it running at least half right though.
2400 miles is an awfully long way to be driving with at least one cylinder down!
Like I said to you when we spoke, would be great if you could do it too.
Takes a certain amount of insanity to do it :lol:[/QUOTE]
I'd love to do it, sounds great, but likely to be at graft here or some other ££££e hole
Post 797330 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-26 19:58:40
Think the S80's fate has been sealed.
Just been around to my Dad's, hes smashed it.
Again.
Post 797332 by AcidicDavey on 2016-02-26 20:02:40
You need to get him a smaller car, I have a lovely Mini for sale he can bounce off gate posts :)
Post 797341 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-26 21:21:43
[QUOTE=AcidicDavey;797332]You need to get him a smaller car, I have a lovely Mini for sale he can bounce off gate posts :)[/QUOTE]
I'm not that cruel.
Besides, he'd have to do something pretty spectacular to hit a gatepost with the roof! :lol:
Post 797345 by AcidicDavey on 2016-02-26 21:34:57
Suitable punishment if you ask me - damage a Volvo, get lumped with a BMini!
Post 797398 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-27 20:45:11
So, had a bit of time poking around with this bag-o-££££ today.
As it was running on 5 cylinders (yes they did make whiteblocks with more than 5 folks) I treated it to a set of ECP's finest NGKs at a whopping £2 each.
Result: 6 cylinders!
On removal, one plug had a split insulator, so most likely that was the problem.
Also fitted one of their cheap and cheerful thermostats as I'd noticed the temperature drop when on the motorway, £4.
Result: Still the same. Bloody hell. Could have bought me a pint that.
As I was (half) on a roll, I thought I'd give the suspension a good coat of swearing and arse sratching.
It was without doubt the worst sounding suspension I've ever heard. Seriously, Ive driven a Corsa with wishbone bushes made of silicone sealant that sounded better!
Found the front wishbone bushes a little tired, but not too bad (happen to have a pair that came with the car) but thought they wouldn't make that much noise.
Moved on, found a front droplink ever so slightly loose, tightened it up.
Had a look at the back end, which filled me with dread tbh as the IRS on these is the most needlessly overengineered setup with exactly 6 million bushes that are NLA, but it all felt tight as a drum.
Just about to put the wheels back on and I noticed the smallest bit of shiny metal under a shocker mounting bolt, "must be loose to cause that" was my thinking, stuck a ratchet on it and it tightened up half a turn.
Dropped it back on it's wheels and drove around the block...
Absolute silence.
Proper job!
So, engine running like a sewing machine and whisper quiet suspension, grand total of £16 spent.
I'll change the wishbone bushes when I'm at my mate's garage and can use his press.
Next up, I'll probably change the ATF as it's very burnt and you can smell it when giving it the beans.
So, yeah.
Spent much of the afternoon hooning it around a local industrial estate, (private, obviously) living up to my username.
I've missed RWD :D
Post 797399 by jamesy12345 on 2016-02-27 21:39:01
Just to continue the cost saving, piece of cardboard down the front of your rad will fix the temperature drop :B_thumb:
Post 797402 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-27 22:33:52
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;797399]Just to continue the cost saving, piece of cardboard down the front of your rad will fix the temperature drop :B_thumb:[/QUOTE]
Ah, but that would necessitate buying some corn flakes :lol:
Post 797410 by jamesy12345 on 2016-02-28 06:46:40
[QUOTE=Doingitsideways;797402]Ah, but that would necessitate buying some corn flakes :lol:[/QUOTE]
Hmmm didn't consider this....I only eat other people's cereal not my own. Better change the engine out instead!!
Post 797416 by Doingitsideways on 2016-02-28 10:06:07
[QUOTE=jamesy12345;797410]Hmmm didn't consider this....I only eat other people's cereal not my own. Better change the engine out instead!![/QUOTE]
:lol:
Post 799194 by barkster1971 on 2016-04-06 18:25:26
Will it be T6'ed before mine though!
Post 799196 by Doingitsideways on 2016-04-06 19:22:35
[QUOTE=barkster1971;799194]Will it be T6'ed before mine though![/QUOTE]
No.
Long term plans are to maybe slot a T6 engine between the struts, but for now I have a bit of a to do list.
From an hour poking at things this afternoon, I have:
Seems to be running on 5 cylinders, hopefully just a lazy coil pack or two.
Rad fan doesn't work.
Overheated ATF, hopefully just a change of fluid.
Many suspension bushes.
Strut top mounts.
A few bits of interior trim, airvents/surround, speaker grille etc.
Front seats are very tired and driver's seat has started to tear, also won't move down properly.
Replace indicator stalk (came with car)
Sunroof only tilts.
Headlining sagging behind sunroof.
Elec aerial doesn't work.
Replace cracked headlight (came with car)
Repaint mismatched front wing, also paint front/rear bumper, driver's door, boot, bonnet... Someone's gone around the car with the mismatched rattlecan and painted a bit on each panel... Why... Just why??!!
That should keep me out of the pub for a while!
I think I'm going to do the Screwball rally in it later in the year, then take it off the road for hopefully the T6 conversion.
For now though, here's a couple of pics from when it met a couple of the others at Sideways Towers:
